Discuss what happened and how to prevent another tragedy.
WHY?
by watcher
I fail to understand why BL's feel they should not talk about this horrible event. Things said on a public message board on the www certaily isn't evidence! Sign on with a free server, hide behind a proxy and no one will find you, so WHY the need for secrets?
Set aside the boylover side of this case for a moment. If Molloy had been plain vanilla man, and had killed Antoine would you still need the secrecy? If he had been a board member of say, the ELKs or treasurer of the Lion's club would you still need the secrecy? If not then perhaps this
is the big story. If the need for secrecy is related to the fact that Molloy was a committee member of BC then it follows that BLs suspect the crime was BL related.
A non boylover arrested & everything about him was pulled. The posts said it was to keep from causing problems. The guy was a book writer & that should have been news and talked about but it wasn't talked about hardly. I don't think it was talked about by non boylovers hardly.
I don't think this will help anything because you don't want to fight. The boards talking about the tragedy are where posters can rip a new asshole verbally.
Bls get told they aren't talking about it to understand what happened. Non bls don't want to post unless they can fight with bls they accuse of not talking about the tragedy.
I've chosen not to use a nick that might be recognized by others who may or may or may not come here. I do so also as I do not know how safe this board is and cannot trust it's operator to be anything other than a newsman or cop. My apologies for both of the above.
If the true intent of this forum is to find a way in which to prevent fuuture tragedies of a similar nature than I support it's purpose. However I peronally have reservations about this board as I severely doubt Toby's family would like anymore publicity than has already occurred.
I am in contact with people on both sides of the said tragedy and my heart goes out to the victim's family and, admidditedly to a lesser degree, to Robbie and his son.
Knowing the circumstances of this case as I do, I do not see anyway that a future tragedy could be avoided. We cannot remove human fears and jealousy nor a man's irrational actions when the above becomes overwhelming.
Hi, I don't mind ppl posting anon. I created this board because I wanted to talk about how to help prevent tragedy. I'm not a cop or a newsman. Just somebody that doesn't know how to stop such a tragedy from occurring if ppl can't talk about it w/out being flamed.
Can't something be done to help ppl when fear and jealousy feels strong?
I don't want to be pessismistic. I think ppl can be helped and tragedy can be prevented but I don't know how we help.
I have memberships in groups and you are right in some ways. The members in crisis all the time look like they get paid attention to more. But I think it is because the members care they pay attention and it isn't because someone shouts more or louder. I'm paying attention and you didn't shout.
Let me also make one thing very clear: the fact that this incident is being made so prominant because of the lone fact that Robbie was an older man and Toby was barely of legal age angers me. This case is not much different than a husband who murders his wife who threatens to leave him or two friends who disagree over an issue to the point of murder. Both things happen all too often in this country. Why make such a grand show of this case?
How can such a tragedy be avoided in the future? Sadly, it won't as people will be human and murder shall always occur. However; if one teaches repect, openess about one's feelings and above all else love to their children, then perhaps their children will be less likely to stay too long in a bad relationship and less likely to take another's life.
The tragedy is a tragedy. I don't want anybody to make a grand show of the case.
Because Robbie and Toby met by the net and were members of a group it is how come there concern. How can anybody know it won't happen to them because it can.
I read he was loved by many people. I saw a small tribute to Toby but it didn't say much about him. He was the same age as my brother and I can't think about anyone dying now because it is to sad. I wouldn't know what to do if something terrible happened to my brother. Toby had many friends didn't he? Everyone needs friends.
I think something like this should be discussed in order to help this from happening again, I don't feel any sympathy though for "Robbie". When you mention his son, are you referring to Toby?
Anyhow, I think the internet is a great place to search for truths. Why are you so paranoid? If it makes you feel any better, I am gay and in my 30's and have had a few lovers, I may have got jealous at times but to go to the point Molloy went is beyond me.
I refer to Robbie's son, not Toby. Now that the police have knowledge Robbie was involved with BC, they are making false allegations of misconduct with his son. Robbie never hurt his son in any way shape or form.
What is your problem with a 40ish man and an 18yo who chose to live together so that Toby could have opportunites he would not otherwise have had?
Why make the assumption that they were lovers? Whatever they, as consenting adults, did in their own time is their business.
Tobi was only 17 years old more inside when he left with Robbie!!
by Anon
And an older man should know better. He is accused of taken a life and a young person from his parents. One was an adult the other by law was a child still. It is now the state business and the taxpayer because they will be footing the bill for a trial. That makes it all our business here.
I don't know what you hope to do here, but I am willing to give my input- such as it is.
Yes, this Robbie/Toby thing is a great tragedy. I don't know how anyone could have predicted such a thing. It's kind of like school shootings, its much easier to see after the fact.
It's really hard to know what happened. I guess we can presume to get better information once it goes to trial. Right now the information we have is from newspapers and television reports. And the bits that the police released.
Prevention... People get killed all over every day... do we have a clue as to how it might have been prevented? I haven't heard anything to indicate an absolute danger before the gun was fired -- so how to know what to prevent...
I don't know how everybody can know what to prevent. I know a gun was used in the tragedy but to look at guns won't help. Like you, People get killed everyday. A lot of the ppl killed aren't killed by guns. How do we help ppl when they need it & they don't tell us they need help. The tragedies leave us empty & not knowing. I don't like the helpless feeling & thought it is better to talk about everything.
Robbie said he was taking care of kids across the river and he said he was a dr but he was a liar. He was a dirty pedophile and looks like the sterotypical pedophile in dirty clothes and is fat. Is bc proud they trusted the lying fat pedophile.