Wow that was great! Thanks for the info. and thanks for maintaining an active JF/A-18 site. So many seem to be dead links or haven't been updated in over a year. I was also wondering...... I haven't been able to find a utility made by Rudel that apparrently allows one to import objects from JF-15. Any leads to any functional download site or a site containing info on how to import? I think I'll be a "frequent flyer" on these boards as I get back up to snuff. Don't worry, I rememeber the avionics and i remember how to fly and fight