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PWAADecember 4 2008 at 5:00 PM | benders papa (no login) |
| I told you all Sharks will prevail, they just beat chesterfield #1, next they will kick Affton and st. Pete |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 4 2008, 6:02 PM |
TOOOOOO funny!
St. Peters,AA 5 wins 0 loses 1 tie
Chesterfield,AA, Team #1 4 wins 1 lose
Affton,AA 3 wins 1 lose 2 ties
Rockets,AA 3 wins 2 loses 1 ties
Kirkwood,AA 2 wins 1 lose 2 ties
Meramec,AA 1 wins 2 loses 3 ties
Cyclone Girls,AA 1 win 3 loses
Twin Bridges,AA 0 wins 5 loses 1 tie
Chesterfield,AA, Team #2 0 wins 2 loses 1 tie
Springfield, Ill,AA 0 wins 2 loses 1 tie
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 4 2008, 7:49 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 4 2008, 9:23 PM |
Meramec has a AA team at Pee Wee? How did
that happen? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 4 2008, 10:13 PM |
6 games, 5 pts. WAY TO GO Meramec!
I've never seen a team win a division while playing under .500. I guess you are saying, you've found a way to accomplish this. Congratulation!!!! |
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anon (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 7:36 AM |
St. Pete can't be beat, they rule |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 7:51 AM |
We know those guys making fun of Meramec aren't from Affton. They are all on pins and needles waiting to see if Meramec and Kirkwood merge then there goes their gravy train of using Meramec as a farm club and cherry picking Meramec's few good players.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 8:35 AM |
good merger, then you'd have a large below average club. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 9:38 AM |
The Sharks aren't a bad team, think they'll win a few more. It's their rink that sucks. Absolutely one of the worst places to play. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 9:57 AM |
To the Kirkwood parent who always brings Affton into the conversation and thinks they would be concerned about the merger. Some food for thought. Already aware that Meramac sucks, Kirkwood's combined record at travel is an impressive 17-25-11. Awful! They do a good job. Right. Affton, who is worried about the great union between two strong clubs has a record at travel so far of 48-20-9. And that record includes two teams at A2 at every level from bantam to Mite. Also bear in mind that Affton's top skaters are playing Central States at squirts through Bantam. Development, coaching, nationally ranked Central States teams.Need we continue Kirkwood. Merge with the Sharks. Maybe you can learn a thing or two. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 10:22 AM |
Kirkwood would never merge with Meremac. I know that was rumored at one point in the past but that would be a terrible mix. I do see Kirkwood and the Rockets merging at some point in the near future. And to the Affton parent who likes to compare Kirkwood's travel record with Affton's travel record: First, take a look at the size of the two organizations. Then, take a look at the rosters of the central states and AAA teams at the squirt and peewee levels in St. Louis. They are stocked with Kirkwood and Rockets kids. I think there are more Kirkwood and Rockets kids playing central states than there are Affton or Chesterfield kids. That's a very sad statement and it speaks volumes about how well the respective programs are doing at developing hockey players. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:11 AM |
The shit kickin begins when Fairview and Twin Bridges get the brains to merge. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:15 AM |
Again another stupid statement by a person not doing his homework. Property of: Central States Affton 21 Rockets 9 Kirkwood 10 /AAA (these numbers may be a little off 1 or 2) Affton 4 Rockets 8 Kirkwood 6 Totals (for you Kirkwood grads) AAA and CS Affton 25 Rockets 17 Kirkwood 16 Your next question please Mr Kompon? These are for squirt and PeeWee only. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:31 AM |
These numbers don't include Kirkwood.s cross ice? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:37 AM |
Not finished yet but my apologies to Chesterfield. I will have their numbers shortly but they lead pack with players on CS and AAA rosters at PeeWee and Squirt. On thing that pops out during this morning debate. all teams have contributed to player development at all levels. Smaller programs like Faitview and Sharks send players on to the next level but not as many as established teams like Chesty and Affton who host the local CS teams in their buildings. Good day! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:35 AM |
I have no idea how you know this information. I know you are at least 2 short on the KW side for CS, but you made my point for me. Using your numbers, there are more KW and Rockets kids playing central states and AA (33) than there are affton kids. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:37 AM |
don't worry the genius is at least 6 guys short on the Rockets also.
that makes it 33+2+6 = 41 vs 25 more proof of your point
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:57 AM |
Guess it depends on how you count
I have 10 Rockets at AAA and 12 at CS.
Now those are they guys who started with the Rockets
a few OTT to be with brothers or better chance under old rules at CS
I would bet the numbers are very similar for KW I also can personally account for 1/2 a dozen guys who choose not to play CS, actually made the team and the next year said thanks but no thanks. I would wager there is not 1 kid who is playing Affton AA instead of CSDHL because he just likes it better.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 1:26 PM |
You mean steal other clubs talent for Central States. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 2:28 PM |
any predictions on the standings at end of year? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 2:58 PM |
Meramec
Twin Bridges
Chesterfield
St. Peters
Cyclone Girls
Affton
Chesterfield #2
Rockets
Kirkwood
Springfield |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 3:57 PM |
Always has to be a jokster in the crowd.
More like:
St. Peters
Chesterfield
Rockets
Affton
Kirkwood
Meramec
Twin Bridges
Cyclone Girls
Chesterfield Team #2
Springfield
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 4:33 PM |
More Rockets/Kirkwood than Affton playing CS/AAA. Should be, your talking two orginizations, one the Rockets consisting of a merged Webster'Creve Coeur and Kirkwood that have larger numbers than Affton. My point was that Affton with limited deographics and numbers in assigned zip codes putting Kirkwood to shame. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 4:50 PM |
Affton has twice as many kids as kirkwood. You want to talk limited geographics,talk about being landlocked like Kirkwood. If you want to compare development of kids, you have to do it on a per player basis, not total numbers. I added Kirkwood and the Rockets together to make it an apples versus apples argument. And this analysis does not even recognize all of the drunk hoosiers you have to deal with at Affton. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 6:08 PM |
triple redundant drunk, hoosier, Affton
three words that all mean the same thing
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 6:23 PM |
Landlocked Affton? that is the funniest thing I have ever heard on all the N54 sites combined.... Just freakin' hilarious.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 9:23 PM |
Two words Kirkwood. John Alexander. And you have the balls to call people skating out of Affton drunks. Not only was Alexander one of the biggest drunks EVER to step in an ice rink, his final meltdown was memorable. Find another adjective to describe the hard working families at Affton. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 9:56 PM |
Alexander was one of the biggest POS to walk this planet and is burning in hell as we speak. But to say one idiot represented an organization is like saying one person represents a whole subset of any people. What an idiot you have to be.
If you are German you are bad because of Hitler.
If you are white you are bad because of John Wayne Gacy
If you are black you are bad because of O J simpson.
Just plain stupid logic last guy.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 10:08 PM |
Affton parents are an embarrassment.
There must be a lack of oxygen at Ice Rinks. Totally rational people become idiots the second their kid hit's the ice. It is not unique to any club and no club is impervious to the disease.
Instead of ranking which 12 year players are best why don't we rank which clubs parents ranks as the lowest class.
1 - Affton
2 - Meramec
3 - Twin Bridges
I have never attended a game where the Affton parents acted with class, never. And, I'm not from Kirkwood.
Human beings retain 80% of what they see and 20% of what the hear.
How do your children see you act in the stands?????????
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 10:29 PM |
Amen
those of us on this site are living proof of the old adage youth hockey is great and there is only one flaw THE PARENTS. My wife loves hockey, loves our sons' games, however, will not attend any Affton games because the Affton parents give her a migraine, literally not figuratively.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:00 PM |
Your wife is a hypochondriac |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 5 2008, 11:46 PM |
The asshole who keeps equating JA with KW is the epitome of the hoosier mentality that is prevalent at Affton. Do you have any idea how that horrific event affected everyone associated with it? Do you have any idea how many people from KW and other places stepped up to care for the orphans of that maniac's act? Keep winning your crap Tier II titles you POS. Why anyone chooses to play for that garbage organization amazes me. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 6 2008, 12:39 AM |
chelios/kw sucks too at kw but they keep him on. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 6 2008, 11:08 AM |
History that's why
Used to be best game in town - no more (AAA is best hockey - why do think Affton is so jealous and negative about AAA)
Used to be only game in town - no more (CHA & AAA - why do think Hazelton moved so hard to get StPete shut down, it was more competition)
p.s. I do understand and agree StPete had no business in CSDHL but, that wasn't Affton's motivation to getting them kicked out. They were not being ultraistic they were being scared little bitches with a death grip on what once was.
KW and Rockets are a great indicator they are equally distant from both CSDHL recruiting systems. Historically no WG wing or KW star would ever go to the valley they all went to Affton. Now, the ratio is (and, of course, there is a margin of error from one year to the next) is 70/30 valley (AAA & CHA CSDHL).
"Even if you are a minority of one - The truth is the truth." - Gandhi
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 6 2008, 9:29 PM |
When your the best people tend to take shots at you. To say the Valley is the orginization of choice may be some families decision. But the rankings and success of the Affton program speaks for itself. To continue to bash affton is what they do best on N54 but again the lack of success at KW and other places draws players to Affton. Just kep talking and affton will keep winning. And at CS Chesterfield apologist need to look at only the standings and rankings. Good night. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 7:15 AM |
Affton, do you have any MILF's? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 8:29 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 8:58 AM |
Good idea, here are the major year rankings (including all teams) from myhockey.
Squirt Major:
Affton CS #76 overall
Affton AA #311 overal
Blues #1 overall
Pee Wee Major:
Affton CS #39 overall
Affton AA #253 overall
Blues #1 overall
Bantam Major:
Affton CS #33 overall
Affton AA #194 overall
Blues #10 overall
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 9:15 AM |
Obnoxious White Trash Parents
Affton Ranked #1 at all age levels.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 1:22 PM |
Of course we have a ton of MILFS, oh wait a second, do they have to have originated from Affton our do our OTT milfs and other clubs players playing on our CSDHL team's milfs count?? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 1:22 PM |
I know you are but what am I ? |
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Homer (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 1:24 PM |
Affton is going to kick the rockets butt today in Fenton, and that will be me banging on the glass for my little bender (he the one that looks like Gretzky) |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 7:21 PM |
early 90's gretzky with the sweet mullet. just like dad. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 7:53 PM |
So now a 1-1 tie is a butt kicking Afton? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 7:54 PM |
What happened in the Meremac, Twin Bridges game? Was it really 12 -1, or was that a typo? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 10:26 PM |
no typo....TB is an A1 team at best. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 7 2008, 10:33 PM |
Person reporting current MyHockey rankings erred a bit. Affton currently 24 at squirts, #3 at PeeWee major, and #7 at Bantam Major. Quite a different ranking than posted earlier today. But as always the slam at Affton expected on this site even when info is available to general public. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 8 2008, 8:17 AM |
I also looked at post about rankings and person was dead on with AAA Blues rankings but Affton's rankings were all wrong. Why give out information correct on one orginization and incorrect on another. Strange. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 8 2008, 9:33 AM |
http://www.myhockeyrankings.com/
Here is the link for current rankings thru Dec 3rd. This site is updated every Wed. You can drill threw each category to see all teams that participate in this site & where they are ranked. You will have the opportunity to view not only the AA but AAA standings, as well as the Ontario standings. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 8 2008, 5:09 PM |
Not strange at all. I combined the Tier I and Tier II rankings to show you the rankings when all teams are considered. Myhockey is set up so you can compare teams regardless of tier, but they have to be the same age. When you combine the rankings (US only) that is where the Affton teams fall.
What is most striking to me is how lowly rated the Affton AA teams are at each age group. One would think that an organization that touts itself as being the premiere developer of talent in St. Louis could field more than 1 decent team at an age group, especialy given all the transfers they get for their top team. Talk is cheap I guess.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 8 2008, 5:45 PM |
Mite thru Bantam AA Records:
Mite 2-0-0
Squirt 2-1-0
PW 2-1-5
Bantam 7-1-1
Total 13-3-6
I'd say pretty damn good considering the "top" players are
playing on CS SQ-BT, so Afftons AA teams are second picked
playing most teams first picked. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 8 2008, 6:48 PM |
But the MOAM league is extraordinarily weak due to AAA and CS bleeding off the top 60 or so kids at each age group. So you can't really read anything into that. If Affton was really so good at developing players, they should be able to create two teams that compete at the central states level, especially since their first team is less than half Affton kids. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 8 2008, 7:19 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 8 2008, 9:21 PM |
Better yet If they were as good as they want you to believe, NO undistricted players, and no OTT.
Their PW-AA is pretty good but their best player started as a Rocket and, OTT to play CS.
So not only can't they make up a CS team of district players they can't even make up a AA without OTT.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 9 2008, 9:28 AM |
First of all, you don't need to OTT to play central states anywhere. Second, all you people whining about Affton taking the best players from your clubs should be glad, that is the only way your little bender is a AA player. And for all those that say Affton CS should be at the top because they are an All- Star team, you know very little about the league or the teams that play in it. Players from the Chicago area are switching teams every year. They are all All- Star teams as well, not to mention their numbers are far greater then STL. Indy has basicly one club, they are also an all-star team.
Just because your son/daughter is not good enough to play CS, doesn't mean that CS is no good and Affton is the evil. If your kid was good enough, I'm sure you would have them try out either at CHA or Affton. And if you say no you wouldn't then you are a liar. But it is much easier to come on here and bitch and complain. If you don't think that the Central states program has improved hockey in this area, you are dead wrong. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 9 2008, 9:45 AM |
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong
You miss the point entirely.
I know 1/2 a dozen players personally who chose to play AA vs CSDHL. Some reasons are 1) too much travel 2) too much money 3) too much emphasis at a young age on hockey 4) moved to a private school and the commitment level is just too much to do both and school comes first 5) Tried it didn't like it 6) kind of a subset of 5 didn't like the kids on CSDHL rather play with my friends. These are direct comments from some parents whose kids are "locks" to make CSDHL and chose not to tryout. Obviously, those who choose not to do so usually it comes down to a combination of the above.
All of life does NOT revolve around where you play hockey when you are 10-12-14 years old.
Actually NONE of life revolves around hockey. This is the problem most Affton parents equate their bender's youth hockey success to their life success even thought the two are mutually exclusive. Only Affton claims we are successful people because our 10 year played better than your 10 year.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 9 2008, 6:20 PM |
Hey Einstien! You take squirt, PeeWee, and Bantam AA at Affton and it would be hard to find more than one or two players that would have made a CS team. Most tried and failed so don't throw it back at the parents living through kids the reason why certain players are at CS. They are their first because of talent, second the sacrifices associated with making an elite team, and third the heart to compete at a high level. It is obvious you were one to receive a participation trophy as a youngster picking the dirt in right field. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 8:48 AM |
“second the sacrifices associated with making an elite team”?
C’mon they only sacrifices being made are from the parents with the extra cost and travel. As far as an elite team goes; AAA is elite, CS is just AA, go watch a AAA game. No I’m not a sourpuss with a kid that didn’t make. Been there, done that, elected not to go back, like a lot of people I know.
Quit patting yourself on the back, it’s your kid that playing.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 8:55 AM |
Check the scores betwwen AA and Cs. Minor year teams hand it to the AA teams. Hate to see too many other matchups major year teams and AA. Saw a 15-1 score between Affton PeeWee major CS and Chesterfiels AA just in first look. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 8:58 AM |
CH AA #1 or the #2 team that should be an A2 team |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 10:54 AM |
Minor year CS teams don't hand it to AA teams. Affton 97 CS split two games with Affton PW AA. Chesterfield 97 CS split two games with Kirkwood PW AA. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 11:08 AM |
Affton Bantam AA has beat CF Bantam Minor CS both times they
have played them(7-5...4-2) |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 2:26 PM |
9:45
You are exactly the liar I talked about.
The 1/2 dozen players you talked to (which i'm sure that you didn't) chose to play AA becasue they knew they would never make a CS team. You know all these kids were "locks"... You are soooooooooo full of shit. Who told you they were locks, their mom?
Also, I don't need to go watch AAA teams, our CS team plays against them, we win some and we lose some. Our CS teams are not as good as the Top Tier of AAA teams and we never tried to claim to be, but we sure the hell are better then a lot of teams that call themselves AAA.
If you are familiar with the myhockeyrankings website, you can pull the ranking points together from both AAA an AA, they are all ranked together and then split into the Tier 1 and Teir 2 rankings, but you will see that Chesterfield and Affton both have CS teams that are much better then a lot of the AAA teams. So since this is a Pee Wee thread, Affton CS, the # 2 Ranked Tier 2 team with a points ranking of 14.40 would be ranked 37th overall if combined with the 103 AAA teams and Chesterfield CS, the #23 ranked Tier 2 team would be ranked #66 if you combined them. (I only used USA for this example)So Elite is a relative term.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 4:29 PM |
Until they make Central states part of the whole clubs tryouts, (not giving people the choice) we'll never know if the best ones are on the team. Chances are, if they did it that way, your little guy would lose his spot.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 6:27 PM |
What do you think the teams would be ranked if there were not players from other organizations playing for Affton and CF. Why not just call them the St Louis Americans and the St Louis Falcons. All the other associations would take pride in the large percentage of players they contribute to the two programs. Lets face it, neither Affton or CF is "developing" complete squads. They hold open tryouts and select the best players from around town that choose to try out, just like the AAA program. The only difference is that the Blues compete at Tier I where the CS teams like to clean up at tier II. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 8:39 PM |
Take pride in sending them to the CS team. Right, just like they take pride in their AAA players. NOT...Just face it if you little bender was good enough to make one of these teams you wouldn't be on here complaining. Just be happy they are on the AA team, becasue they wouldn't be is all your talented players didn't run to Affton to play CS. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 9:49 PM |
Believe it or not, not everyones life hinges on there 12 year olds hockey experience. LOL
You crack me up! When your kiddo gets a free ride to college, please by all means, feel free to boast! While your forking out big bucks to play glorified AA, you may want to keep it down to a dull roar. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 10:16 PM |
I absolutely love that suggestion
the names should be change
St Louis AAA Blues
St Louis CSDHL Whatever
St Louis CSDHL Whatever 2
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PWAA | December 10 2008, 11:16 PM |
If players now playing CS, specifically from KWOOD and CHA, are so elite then why are the majority of CS teams comprised of players who played on mediocre (at best) teams last year. Maybe this is why the CS teams don't want to scrimmage the AA teams. |
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Anonymous (no login) | benders anonymous | December 11 2008, 3:38 PM |
Hey,
How about my St. Pete Spirit, can you spell UNDEFEATED. We will have this wrapped up by new years, we may be able to give the CS boys a run in districts. Are you nervous yet (affton and chesty)? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: benders anonymous | December 11 2008, 6:43 PM |
yeah, that big two point lead is tough to overcome. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: benders anonymous | December 11 2008, 8:02 PM |
Especially when they haven't played CHA#1
only played Affton once,
and haven't played the Rockets in League who they lost to twice in practice games.
Not suggesting it will happen but, they could easily lose all 5.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: benders anonymous | December 11 2008, 10:26 PM |
Might only be a two point lead but look at the goals against. Only nine in 8 games. Good, fast team. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: benders anonymous | December 12 2008, 7:43 AM |
obviously you did not read the post above you. your low goals against is probaly due to not playing the teams right on your ass. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: benders anonymous | December 12 2008, 8:56 AM |
You mean like the time St. Pete beat Affton 2-0? |
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Anonymous (no login) | anon | December 12 2008, 12:04 PM |
you can't beat speed and the spirits are the FAST and FURIOUS, bring on affton, chestefield and the spirits weren't trying in those preseason games with rockets, YOU WILL SEE! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 12 2008, 12:20 PM |
Please do us all a favor and shut the hell up. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 12 2008, 12:43 PM |
that's ok the Rockets weren't trying either so their not trying beats your not trying.
they also played their forwards at d and their d at forward
they had their left handed goalie play right handed
their right handed goalie played left
and the refs ripped them off and they still one
How pitiful for you
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 12 2008, 12:46 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 14 2008, 1:32 AM |
if st peters is soo good why the .500 record - lost to 2 kansas city teams- shameful. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 14 2008, 2:16 PM |
twin bridges beat chesterfield #2 1-0 and beat the rockets 3-0 HA HA HA |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 14 2008, 10:02 PM |
"How about my St. Pete Spirit, can you spell UNDEFEATED"
Yea, how did that feel? Until Meramce kicked the crud out of you 4-0. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 9:43 AM |
4-0, sounds like they are not as mighty as they thought they were. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 10:09 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 11:17 AM |
Don't know if this is usual or not.
Any Given Sunday.
Usually we are a mid pack team and you know who you are going to beat and who is going to beat you.
There is no way in hell Danny Sheridan himself could put out a line on any of these games.
The only guarantee is that whoever wins this league will be sacrificed at the Affton (undistricted) CSDHL Alter and it will be Ugly.
I can honestly say if our team won I'd go ahead a forfeit and let the boys keep their dignity.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 12:21 PM |
Has any St. Louis Peewee AA team beaten any of the Kansas City peewee AA teams???? Didn't think so, you all suck! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 12:57 PM |
Meramec also beat the #1 Chesterfied team, guess that dog had more than one day. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 1:15 PM |
Has any St. Louis Peewee AA team beaten any of the Kansas City peewee AA teams???? Didn't think so, you all suck!
I think Affton did in a tournament a couple of months ago. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 1:59 PM |
I stand corrected, Affton is the lone team to scratch out a win against the KC teams.
Kansas City AA Teams - 9 wins vs. St. Louis
St. Louis – 1 win vs KC
2 ties
So…you still suck.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 2:13 PM |
So... you still are a hillbilly |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 2:20 PM |
Kansas City has AA teams?? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 2:47 PM |
I know you are but what am I?
Good Lord |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 4:09 PM |
I don’t know if they are AA or not, but they seem to have no problem handing it to the St. Louis AA teams. What’s the excuse this week gonna be? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 4:58 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 15 2008, 8:22 PM |
You might do well to remember the Stars are your best team.
Try playing 96 AAA, 97 AAA, Affton CSDHL 96, CHA CSDHL 96, Affton CSDHL 97, CHA CSDHL 97.
You haven't played one of those teams according to My Hockey Rankings. It wouldn't even be close to any of those teams.
congrats your best team can beat our 10th best team.
KC Stars vs 96AAA I'll give you 6 goals and 10 to 1 odds on a thousand dollar bet.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 16 2008, 4:12 AM |
I'll tkae KC vs, the 97 CSDHL teams......they'd be .500 at best in the AA division. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 16 2008, 9:07 AM |
8:22 you may want to double check you source again http://myhockeyrankings.com/view_2008_team_scores.php?team_nbr=3039. I am not a KC suporter but they beat Affton CS 97 9-0 and tied CHA CS 97 6-6.
I think it is funny how they are pounding their chest about this team, I would like to see how all their other teams in other age brackets stack up against STL teams. |
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anon (no login) | Re: anon | December 16 2008, 3:22 PM |
Now that st pete has been revealed, may the new champ be annointed from the valley? Best coaching, best conditioned skaters (only need 10)who skate with their hair on fire, brick wall goalie,
Just get out of the way before you get torched!
VAROOM here we come!!!And can we give a hit? WHAM! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 16 2008, 3:50 PM |
You might want to check yourself in at the local rehab center |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 16 2008, 5:04 PM |
How in the world can a team with a 6-11-7 record talk smack to anybody. What a joke. How many states are represented on your KC team? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 16 2008, 6:06 PM |
Use ten skaters because you don't have to worry about developing players 11 - 15. The only risk is injury and illness. Otherwise, you have your five best kids on the ice 50--60 percent of the game without trying. I would call that a front office decision more than coaching. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 12:32 AM |
Players 11-15 are on Chesterfield #2. Every practice they have is with Chesterfield #1. They also play the same number of games against the same teams that Chesterfield #1 plays in the league including playing each other. Players 11-15 are on the ice 50% of the time in all of their games too. But we all know players are primarily developed in practice anyway. This sounds to me like an excellent executive decision supplemented with top-notch coaching. 20 vs. 15 or fewer kids are getting the benefit of participating in every AA practice. For those lacking basic mathematical skills that's at least 5 more kids getting "developed" at the AA level than all other teams in the league. #2 may have difficulty winning some games but they ARE getting better rapidly and they WILL be significantly better by the end of the season. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 7:53 AM |
Yeah but Chesterfield still sucks |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 8:59 AM |
Excellent coaching? A throw away from Affton at one team and a AAA castoff coaching another. Yeah, I want to run out and sign up for that program. Not! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 9:19 AM |
"And can we give a hit? WHAM"
Gimmee a break, you got one big kid on the team.
10 skaters are fine for a roller game, On ice the kids are gonna start wearing down. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 9:22 AM |
AA in name only. there is no program in this area with enough talent to field two so-called AA teams at any level. makes you feel good though don't it? those cool warm-up suits and all. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 12:13 PM |
I feel bad for the kids on that second team...getting beat every game is no fun. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 12:39 PM |
CF fielding 2 AA teams at SQ, PW, and BT is nothing more than
a joke!! Just their way of saying we're big and bad and have
enough talent and coaching to put together 2 AA teams at those
particular levels.
Squirt 1-4-2
PeeWee 0-6-1
Bantam 1-8-0
Total 2-18-3
The stats speak for themselves. A wasted season for these kids,
all because of CF's big ego's. And don't give me the BS about the
players are developing because they share ice with the AA #1 team.
I've been a witness to it all season, and thats why next year, we
are going somewhere else(and I know quite a few more who are planning
to do the same) |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 12:49 PM |
Dec 17 12:32am Just because a kid skates with a AA team
doesn't necessarily mean he is being developed. Thats just
the BS CF has you believing. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 12:54 PM |
WOW! I sense someone feels threatened by this CF program. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 2:15 PM |
Threatened? People from your own organization are on
here telling you they are leaving because of the crap that
CF keeps coming up with. Trying to field 2 AA teams when the
first one isn't all that great is just plain stupid. The
CF people come up with these crazy ideas, and some people actually
buy into it. I wouldn't be suprised if CF could convince their
folks that we aren't in a recession, it would'nt be a good idea to
buy a fuel efficient vehicle, and offer up some ocean front property
in Arizona! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 2:38 PM |
I think the biggest issue is people confuse development with winning. Granted losing every game is not fun and if he doesn't have the right coach it could discourage him from continuing to play. It is up to the coaches as well as parents to continue to encourage and challenge kids in sports.
Take a look at the bigger picture. What are your expectations for your son long term? Or better yet what are "HIS" expectations for long term? Be realistic with yourself, if your son is on the second level "AA" team any thing more than making Varsity in his freshman year may be too high. There will always be some late bloomers, but those are typically not the norm. There is nothing the matter with making the second level "AA" team; he is playing at a level that is higher than the majority of all kids in youth hockey will ever play. He is being challenged and forced to step up his play, this WILL pay off in the long run. I truly believe this, maybe I am just naive.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 2:42 PM |
Your last sentence says it all. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 2:53 PM |
This is a clear example of putting lipstick on a pig.
Development? WTF does that mean?
You take A1 players and make them play all AA teams and you think a 14 year old who loses all his games is going to be glad to be "developing"?
OMG are you an imbecille. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 2:56 PM |
Take those same players as and have them kill every A1 team, is that development? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 3:17 PM |
sounds like that's where they belong.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 3:46 PM |
"People from your own organization are on here telling you they are leaving because of the crap that CF keeps coming up with."
NEWSFLASH!!! Unless one logs in exposing a valid email address and/or identfies themselves by name it is impossible to detect whether the anonymous person threatening to leave is a legitimate person from CF or someone outside of CF attempting to stir up crap anonymously. I realize that last scenario is crazy because no one ever uses this site to stir up crap. But hey you never know. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 3:47 PM |
thank you for proving my point.......... it's really just about winning |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 4:55 PM |
Ever wonder why kids quit playing hockey? usually it isn't fun anymore, like when they play on a team that loses all its games or the coach plays only the top 10 kids to win the league.
doesn't matter the level of play, if a kid isn't having fun then they usually look to do something else with their time.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 17 2008, 6:58 PM |
I agree that the kids need to be challenged, but I think it should be by playing kids at their same level. These kids should be having fun now. Most are not going to go on beyond high school, so I wonder what all this "developing" is for.
They're going to get "developed" right into another sport. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 8:46 AM |
I heard a rumor that the Affton coach quit because the board wouldn't let him bring up a player from the A1 team. Any truth to that rumor?
Also, what is the deal with the Rockets? I thought they would be the team to beat. They lost again last night. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 9:24 AM |
That's not the only reason he quit. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 10:42 AM |
OK, then why did he quit? |
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Maharissi (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 10:08 AM |
NEWSFLASH:
THE STARS ARE COMING OUT! KW 5 Rockets 2, somebody bring us some real compitition. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 10:18 AM |
Really...bc they just tied Meramec less than a week ago. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 10:35 AM |
I guess they weren't out of the closet then. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 12:15 PM |
I heard he quit because he was caught with rubber gloves, motor oil, and a Britney Spears CD |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 2:54 PM |
Whatever the reason, it's not right. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 7:17 PM |
If you are the team you know the reasons. If you're not, it's not your business.
Move on, nothing to see here. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 7:33 PM |
Who really cares anyway?????????????? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 8:33 PM |
The parents did not like the coaches and wined and complained about how little johnny should be playing forward instead of defense. I say let the coach coach and the parents need to just shut their mouth. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 18 2008, 8:42 PM |
Right becuase the coach was doing a great job coaching |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 19 2008, 9:16 AM |
If every coach quit because of whining parents then we would have no coaches. That is not a reason to quit. |
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benders papa (no login) | Re: anon | December 19 2008, 4:56 PM |
Hey, why are all those Rocket parents standing on the edge of that cliff and holding hands?
And why Do aFFton Moms bang on the glass?
And why do chesterfield parents wave back at you with only one finger?
And why is twin bridges asking MOAM to reconsider cow bells?
Just wondering, Merry Christmas |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 21 2008, 1:28 PM |
Chesterfield parents are sitting in the lounge with a view by the window.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 21 2008, 1:26 PM |
Or maybe they become focused on the chicks?
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 22 2008, 2:46 PM |
Chesterfield #1 and Meramec tied over the weekend...is the chesterfield team with their 10 players running out of steam or what? I think chesterfield lost to them earlier in the year too. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | December 23 2008, 9:52 PM |
truth is, meramec is just better, something about the blue collar |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 2 2009, 6:10 PM |
It's not "BLUE COLLAR" you IDIOT...It's "BLUE EYE SHADDOW". |
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benders papa (no login) | Re: anon | January 7 2009, 10:57 AM |
St pete, affton and ch #1 will battle each other for league title,
Meramec,rockets, and Kirkwood will play spoilers for top three
TWin Bridges and Springfield can get lucky and steal one if taken lightly
Cyclones will tie every game
Ch #2 deserves sympathy and encouragement, they have really tried
Even considering cyclones mandatory ties, this league has alot of ties, and alot of parity.
Anyone of the top 6 could win the tournament, it'll be fun to watch.
Who will get their team to gel at the right time?
Where would you rather live for a better youth hockey experience? St louis has come a long way since the Blues came to town. My youth hockey was on a local pond with a smashed beer can for a puck, some kids had skates, some kids had real sticks, others broke curved branches off trees. Goalie had catchers equipment, and no net. there were no rules, no out of bounds, and we had to watch out where the sun hit the ice more and made it weak. You'd hear the ice cracking and hurry up while everone hoped you got wet.
You couldn't give away hockey cards, and whats up with all these french dudes? Was it France's national sport? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 7 2009, 11:04 AM |
ch#2 might be better if they didn't have a ten man roster and coaches that didn't get thrown out of games. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 7 2009, 1:08 PM |
think you have the wron chesterfield team there buddy |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 7 2009, 2:20 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 13 2009, 11:28 AM |
SPAA are on a slide. They played all week teams early. And now they are loosing to the teams that are better. sp will always be sp....go HOFER and BARET |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 13 2009, 1:26 PM |
11:28
How did they play all the "weak" teams early when there are only 5 games left in the season? Beat Affton first 2-zip, tied Kirkwood, beat Kirkwood 3-zip etc. Records 8-3-2. Not bad!
I wouldn't call a one goal loss to CHA#1 in the last second after being up 2 zip and a bad game against the Rockets a slide. Anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Any of the top four right now can win this thing.
Sounds like a disgruntled ex St. Pete or a soon to be.
Hope you can spell better on your OTT form. Week Looser (I mean Weak Loser). |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 13 2009, 2:09 PM |
That's pretty funny.
"Bad Game" against Rockets.
Rockets and STP have played 3 times STP has LOST ALL 3.
And the margin of victory has widened not narrowed.
Imagine that 3 "Bad Games" in a row against the Rockets -
How unfortunate you can't seem to have even one good game.
Since you don't seem to get it I'll explain
STP has played 5 games vs three quality MoHockey teams
they have only 1 win - that is a record of 1 win and 4 LOSSES when it counts.
you have 3 more games against these 3 teams.
Even if you sweep the last 3 you will have a LOSING record against those teams.
So of your 8 wins 0 vs Rockets, 0 vs CHA#1, & 1 vs Affton.
So of your 8 wins 5(68%) are vs Springfield, TB, & CHA #2 - Color me unimpressed.
Wanna bet after you get your second win vs the winless CHA#2
you get to finish you season 0-3 (with a auto-tie vs Cyclones)
p.s. I looked on the MoHockey website, as hard as I look, I can't seem to find the column for last second loss or gave up the lead loss.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 13 2009, 3:24 PM |
2:09
Funny, I can't seem to find the column for pre season games.
Look, I'm not making excuses for the last loss to Rockets, did I mention the outstanding reffing at the game? no. This was a response to the dolt calling it a slide. It was a bad game, St. Pete played bad that day. Doesn't excuse the loss. Other two games against the Rockets were pre season, everyone knows how those can go.
As far as your figures go, they don't add up. Beside St. Pete, the top three teams are Kirkwood, Affton and CHA #1. The record so far this season against them is 2-1-1.
Or are you putting your homer rockets that are down in the middle of the pack up front? (noticed you forgot to place Kirkwood in the mix)
And I'd take that bet, Affton and CHA #1 will be tough.
As far as your Rockets ending the season, my prediction for the last six; 2-4-0 |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 13 2009, 3:41 PM |
1st they aren't "My Rockets" - my son is a different club.
2nd the practice games actually are listed
right there where I got my data from on "my hockey rankings.com"
3rd LOSERs make excuses, winners win
4th LOSERs blame the refs, winner win.
5th Did the Refs cost you the win in all 3 Rocket losses and the CHA loss or just the one Rocket loss.
6th The only reason I mentioned you vs the Rockets, is if your a good team you don't go 0-3 vs a 500 team.
Your prediction again show an error in facts
how do you go 2-4-0 when you only have 5 games remaining (according to MoHockey)
how do you go 2-4-0 when 1 of your games is a guaranteed tie vs the Cyclones
Want to try again - guess my club - guess your own record, let me know if you need my help giving you more information on your own team.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 13 2009, 3:54 PM |
MY bad, I miss read the StPete Guys post
He was talking about final 6 for Rockets
I thought he was talking about final 6 for his St Pete team
Just checked MoHockey - the Rockets do have 6 games left
They may go 2-4
That makes them really under 500
Must make you really, really proud to be 0 - 3 versus a sub 500 team
Oh well blame the refs
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 13 2009, 6:43 PM |
Guess you misread this part of my post also:
"Look, I'm not making excuses for the last loss to Rockets, did I mention the outstanding reffing at the game? no. This was a response to the dolt calling it a slide. It was a bad game, St. Pete played bad that day. Doesn't excuse the loss."
I can guess the team you're from. CHA? right, I could tell by your smarmy comments, your douche-baggery and the way you're taking this way too seriously. |
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independent (no login) | Re: anon | January 16 2009, 8:16 AM |
Rockets 4-2 over St Pete
I was at the game scouting for our PWAA team.
Holy cow, who were those refs? St pete has the better team, big tough defense and stronger in goal.
We in the rest of the league want to thank those refs. St Pete controlled the puck and outshot the Rockets.
I'll bet the Rockets think they will roll from here, but they are dreaming, they were soft and lucky.
Don't worry st pete we know you, chesterfield and Affton are still the teams to beat. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 16 2009, 8:41 AM |
Somebody scouting for his son's team? How scary weird is that. How about staying home with your kid and help with his homework. WOW |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 16 2009, 9:12 AM |
8:41- how about you mind you own fucking business? Many players, parents, coaches, etc. scout their opponents.
How do you know he didn't go there with his kid for a cup of hot chocolate and just to see who he is playing next? ASSholes like you want kids to be prepared, do their best, focus etc., but then when some dad says he went out to "scout", which is basically watch another team play, you have to insult him as if he was a bad parent. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 16 2009, 9:24 AM |
Scout for what? The season is finished in a couple weeks and for most it is on to bantams where most players will fall A1 or A2. Your team has already played everyone once through so your coach has a pretty good idea his next game will be against a team you've already played. Has to be an idiot from Kirkwood. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: anon | January 16 2009, 9:56 AM |
Scout, it was made everyones business when it was posted on this thread. "scouting" is "scouting" and "watching" is "watching"
Patriots might have an opening for a "scout". |
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Dr. Reasonable (no login) | PW-AA | January 16 2009, 10:41 AM |
I thought this was a thread for PW dad's to talk a little shit.
They told me there wouldn't be a grammer test.
"Scout" - "Watch" I think your getting a little a head of yourself.
Which ever dad that was there was probably just watching for enjoyment.
p.s. Rockets can't win the league but the will win the EOS now called the State Championship
then, they will go on to win the tie break game with CHA#1
Then, they'll lose to Aff CS 97 around 15-1
p.s.s. you can replace rocket with STP, KW, Aff, etc end result will be the same.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PW-AA | January 16 2009, 10:57 AM |
You get a D+ on your test
It's Affton 96 not 97
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PW-AA | January 16 2009, 1:15 PM |
And we can thank mo hockey for the exciting 15-1 scenario that awaits whoever wins the pwaa or bantam aa leagues. All the non cs programs are moving in a rec direction, the only travel will be affton and cf and there will be fewer kids skating. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PW-AA | January 16 2009, 4:25 PM |
Since AAA are the best 15 that want to play AAA
Then CS are the next best 30 that want to play CS
would an All-Star MoHockey team be able to compete with the CS team?
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PW-AA | January 16 2009, 5:09 PM |
Best? Hardly. Coaches pick who they are buddies with and who they are familiar with on all of the CS and AAA teams. I know many players playing CS and AAA this year who had VERY mediocre seasons at MO Hockey AA last year. In fact, many of them miraculously jumped over quite a few who totally outscored and outplayed them all season last year. But I guess they hired a magician over the summer that turned them into the "Best". Too funny. I can only imagine how good these teams could really be if they indeed picked the "best". |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PW-AA | January 16 2009, 6:37 PM |
4:25. Yes and they'd win. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PW-AA | January 16 2009, 7:26 PM |
It's already being done dumbass. It's called Central States! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: PW-AA | January 16 2009, 10:36 PM |
Who is the dumbass? Those who would prefer to play Moam and still be able to have a chance to go to reginals or those who choose to pay extra money so they can then fork out more money traveling to chicago to play league games against teams they easily beat? | |
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