Only 4 points separate the top 6 teams. Surprising parity, 3 teams with 6-8 ties, good for St louis club hockey. Pick your final standings and we will see who was right, just for fun. Cyclones are great, but not included as per MOAM

Ch #1
Affton
St pete
Rockets
KW
Meramec
TB
SPR
Ch #2

Bonus question: Will there be any further suspensions this year?

who has been suspended so far this year?

How have most games actually gone with the cyclones. After playing them, Iwould guess that they have faired pretty well against the bottom teams, but played competitive games against the better teams with not so many wins to show for it.

#1 St. Peters
#2 Chesterfield
#3 Affton
#4 Rockets

Who cares about the rest

CHA & St. pete tied right now at 13 games, 19 points

I mean 14 games, 20 points

You are crazy to leave Kirkwood or Meremac off the list. And the fact is even the weaker teams could pull off an upset. CF 2's average score is like 3 - 2. The favorite has to be CF 1, but I think any of the top six could win the EOS.

Someone trying to paint a rosy picture for Chesterfield #2 team. -27 in standings in plus/minus with only 19 goals scored in 12 games. Thats pathetic. Coach picked up after Affton let him go and the proof is in the results this year. A disaster. We'll see in EOS how they compete.

CF 2 lost badly to CF 1, somethng like 13-2. If you take that game out of the equation, or better yet just go on line and look at their scores, the average game is a one goal game. There are no other blow outs. If you don't understand that a team that is within one goal most games can sneak up and beat you, you haven't watched enough hockey games. The CF 2 goaltender is very good, probably should have been on the #1 team.

If you think the coach is why the team can't score, again you don't know hockey very well. If you want to rip on anyone it should be the CF board that " sacrificed" the CF 2 kids in order to give a little more ice time to ten skaters on the # 1 team, instead of carryng 13 - 15 skaters.

No other blowouts? They got spanked by STP 7 to zip last night.
Tough season for those kids, they play hard. Shame on CHA, shoulda moved them down to A1.

Maybe they should have tried to "develop" their players by taking 15 and 2 goalies like most other clubs do all over the world when the players are there to take?

Manny at affton regret having lost thier coach to CHA 2. Look at how well Affton's replacement did........he quit mid season because of all the Lunies in the orgization.

News flash! News Flash! Bottom 3 (4 if you include the girls) teams in the AA division should be playing A1.

Hadn't seen the score from last night. That is two league games that I would call a blow out. Not arguing that they shouldn't have been A1, with their top five kids on the CF 1 team. Only saying that it would not surprise me if they upset somebody in the playoffs.

Not posted from last night......
How about....
Springfield still not posted from Saturday.
I'm really curious who won between #1 and Springfield

Say what you want about Affton but our coaches don't change score sheets so that their son can play in the championship and lose LOL.

Did Mr. I change the score sheet get suspended or did the Ex-NHL get him off ?

@7:30-


did you mean to misspell almost every word in your post or are you just that big of a moron.

10:06
I'm pretty sure I know who 7:30 is (the grass cutter?) and yes he is that big of a moron.


What's up with the changing of the scoresheet?-c'mon spill the beans, which team/game?

7:30 Manny(I'm asuming you mean Many) regret losing their
coach..Sounds like you are this coach you speak of, or a family
member. Don't flatter yourself, Affton will keep on rolling w/o
whoever this coach is.

When we don't even know who he is, its a pretty good
sign he's not that important.

Look What I dug up! HATE HATE , HATE HATE!
I'd love to post more,
but I gotta go home and put some water in LEONs Momma's dish.
HATE HATE , HATE HATE!
All those who don't want to Deal with LEON again next year,
OTT to Chesterfield!
HATE HATE , HATE HATE!
Oh yeah, can't forget the milfs!

Chesterfield #1 (Duggan) played Rockets in the Chesterfield Artic Blast Tournament. Coach's son received 5 penalties in the game (including a minor and game misconduct w/ 4 seconds remaining). This would have caused coach's son to sit out next game - Championship Game and C#1 would have been left shorthanded w/ 9 skaters.

C#1 wouldn't provide scoresheet to Rockets. 20 MINUTES after the game, C#1 coach went to the referee with scoresheet and said that REFEREE made a mistake and gave coach's son (#8) first penalty by mistake. C#1 said that first penalty should have been for player #18, not #8. Note that #8 (coach's son) actually did get the first penalty and served the first penalty. Note also that coach did not complain when his kid went into the box. However, Ref said ok and they changed the scoresheet that was turned in to Chesterfield tournament director.

EVERYONE at game knows that #8 received all penalties. Rockets manager has copy of unaltered scoresheet.

C#1 coach's son played in next game. Situation was brought to tournament director's attention after the game - tournament director said that he wouldn't take any action.

Not sure if Mohockey will take any action.

If cha 2 wins now, they will really accomplish something.....STP blow largely due to them playing w/o two players that are gone for season with non-hockey related injuries.

9:32 Are you on crack? STP beat CHA #2 7-0 the other night.

They are missing only one kid, and it's not a suprise, those people can't lose their streak of quitting on every team they play on.

One kid doesn't make a team. you can tell that the way they beat Affton this AM 4-2

10:14 you have some bad information

11;52 You're the one with the bad info. St. Pete is only missing one kid for the rest of the season. try to refrain from speaking about things you don't know about. It makes you sound like an idiot.

you gotta love n54. The orginal statement had nothing to do wth st pete's injured player.

Back to the changing of the scoresheet-what's the scoop?

#1 Head Coach was at rink today vs TB.
Hearing was last week.
Nothing posted at MoHockey.

Hockey in my experience has the best discipline of youth sports (obviously I mean for the players not the parents) and teaches these kids great life lessons. Here is a quiz for all you:

What lesson do you teach your son when he commits 5 penalties in one game and you "fix" the scoresheet so he can play in the next game. And, the next game has such marvelous results: 1) Your team loses 2) you go out and get another 4 cheap shot penalties and for a finale the cops are called on some parents?

p.s. the 5 penalties should not have been an issue the kid deserved at least a game misconduct in the first place regardless of 5 penalties. After a Rocket defenseman made the grievous error of a legal check the kid used his stick as a weapon tripping the Rocket then, jumped on him and stupidly punched the Rocket 10 times or so in the face mask as he sat on his chest. (I may be wrong on the rule book but, not the moral code)

Cops called? Dave/ Bill do tell more. Your stories are the best.

what parents were the cops called on? CHA or the Rockets? and why?

Affton vs CHA game - No idea why and that is what I was wondering as well.

Dave/Bill please tell the rest of your story.

Who is Dave/Bill ?

Primary characters in the upcoming box office smash, "The Excellent Adventures of Dave and Bill".

Funny stuff, but now to more serious issues: Where are the best MILFs? Granite City, Alton, or Affton?

8:22 why don't you ask your recently outed gay father where your mom is? Word is she's available now as pops is no longer interested in servicing her.

Meramec beat Kirkwood last night, moves them to 4th in the standings.

Mmmm, 4th place..congratulations on that.

WOW, your funny!

Whats funny is you posting about moving into 4th
place. Why would you take the time to even post
that? Now thats funny.

1st Place(Champion)
2nd Place(first loser)
3rd Place(second loser)
4th Place(third loser)

and so on.

12:28 - Biggest loser

Actually I'm the biggest winner. I'm with
the 1st place team.

Are you a 12 year old, or just some loser living vicariously through one?

Which 1st place team, there are 2???

Probably just some idiot starting trouble. Not that
that would happen on old N54.

11:27

Congrats to you and Meramec!!!

Now have your kids carry our team bags out to our cars while we fold up our banner.

I know coach Duggan. He would never do anything like changing a scoresheet. Everybody is aiming for him because he's in first place, and nobody can beat them when they are serious. I was at the game, his son did not deserve any of those penalties. the Rocket players were cheap shotting him all nite.

ah yes, the refs were out to get me and the other team was a bunch of meanies excuse. I forgot about that one. Pull up your skirt Suzie, this is hockey not figure skating. Or maybe that is what you should be involved in.

7:11 thanks for the early morning comedy, I laughed out loud on that one, good one!!!

7:11 Tied for first place I think you meant

7:11 OF COURSE Duggan changed the scoresheet. The original scoresheet had #8 receiving the first penalty. Changed scoresheet that was finally turned into the tournament had #18 receiving the first penalty. #8 went into the penalty box and served the first penalty. The original scoresheet had a penalty to #8 for receiving 5 penalties in a game. Changed scoresheet had this penalty scratched off, but still clearly visible. Refs confirmed that scoresheet was changed 20 minutes after game. Just look at the changed scoresheet, compare to Rockets copy. Ask the scorekeeper. Ask #18 or anyone at the game who got the first penalty.

The scoresheet was changed after it was realized that #8 would have to miss the Championship Game.

OF COURSE #8 deserved the penalties. How can you possibly say that didn't? He received the last 2 penalties, with 4 seconds left, for gutting a Rockets player with his stick and after the Rockets player was on the ground, jumping on top of him and repeatedly punching him in the head.

Ask #8 or Duggan how many penalties #8 got in the Championship Game. I bet they will say that none of his 4 penalties in that game were deserved either and that Affton "players were cheap shotting {misspelling from original poster) him all nite."

No matter how this season plays out, Duggan's actions still amount to cheating and his son is still a goon who will never learn if it is taught by his father.

If all of what you say is true. this is very serious and
should be brought to the attention of the Moam President,
or the rep for your level. Whoever this Duggan guy is, if he is
a coach, he would face suspension for his actions. Just coming
on N54 and talking about it won't get the job done. Sounds like
the kid involved could use a little shot of what happens in the
real world, so Dad being suspended for his actions would be a
good start. All the info you need is on the Missouri Hockey website,
who to contact, etc.

1148 won't report anything to MOHockey, bc he can't do it as "Mr. Anonymous"

I am involved witht the rocket team.

There were three penalties on the play at the end of the game; a hook, a rough and a misconduct. The boy had received two penalties earlier in the game. Whether or not the first one was assigned incorrectly to him or not, I couldn't begin to tell you. I take Pat at his word on that. The "rough" at the end was bad enough to have been called a fight and game, but it wasnt.
Pat's boy was upset because he had received a high hit a few minutes earlier from a Rocket player who recieved a head contact penalty on the play.

As I understand it, after the game was over, the coach went to the refs room, told them he thought they had made a mistake on the first penalty. The refs sent him to the tourney director and basically said ok. Tourney director changed the first penalty, based on Pat's message to him from the refs.

Some Affton people were upset that night. Some rocket parents were upset that night when they found out. A report did go to Mo Hockey. Pat sat his son in a league game against the Rockets the following week. Probably cost CF 1 the game. (Rockets won 4-2.) He could have sat him against Springfield (lower in the standings.) They sat them on their own volition. Mo Hockey never had a hearing or issued suspension orders.


As far the Rockets and I are concerned the matter is closed.

Glad we don't have these problems at A1!!!!

1:22pm He doesn't get to decide what game the kid sits for. If
the kid gets a game misconduct, he has to sit the next game, not whenever
the coach feels its appropriate.

1:29
What is this A1 thing you are talking about? The only A1 I've ever heard of is steak sauce. Think you're on the wrong forum, this is about hockey.

1:38 douche bag - A1 is a level or more higher than where your kid played last year before you and your wife started blowing everyone at your club. It is also the level where most of the 96 AA and several PW CS Major players played last year.

ouch!

1:50
Sorry, never heard of it.

I take it your little Gretz is on A1, you're all pissed at the kids that made AA, that aren't as good as Gretz and those parents had to have been blowin' someone to beat out little Gretz. Did I pretty much nail it? Bet so.

2:16 jackass - I've had boys moving up and down from AA, A1, and A2 their entire careers. I know the drill and don't get too freaked out about it until some asswipe such as yourself spouts off with ignorant garbage. Sometimes my kids dominated at tryouts and made AA. Sometimes I was surprised they made AA. Sometimes they had a shitty tryout for a variety of reasons and fell to A1 or even A2. You know, it happens - not feeling well or just unable to get in a groove. And yes sometimes it was pretty clear to, not just me but dozens of knowledgeable observers that it was obvious the fix was in, like with your kid. We were all standing around the lobby wondering how in the hell it was possible for your kid to make it with the horrific tryout he had and the only possible explanation that sounded remotely plausible is that you and your wife must be blowing the coach or a board member.

You never heard of A1? You are a liar or a moron. Which is it?

both

2:39 just glad to hear that the seasons he didn't make AA, it was for reasons other than skill, no way could there have been 15 other kids more deserving. Always nice to see someone with a firm grasp of reality.

2:39
I think I know who you are. Can just see you now, fists clenched with your knuckles all white, waiting for the next board meeting so you can go in and complain about the fixes or parents. Big kid don't always=talent you know.

If I'm wrong, I've met a hundred like you.

Still can't quite remember what A1 is. Oh well, gotta go, I'm in the mood for a steak now.

At least my kids' skills are their own and not their parents' skills. Just keep blowin' there buddy!

Don't worry, maybe next year there will be a bunch of OTT's and your kid will make the team by default. You'll be proud then.

Now get your fat old butt back to your A1 forum

Proud like you? Then I can puff out and pound my chest as a proud parent of a AA player like you? As if you accomplished something other than giving great head? And I can make childish, immature, and ignorant statements like, "What is this A1 thing? I don't remember it. This is real hockey."

No thanks. BTW they've already played AA on several levels. I just don't find a pressing need to satisfy a fragile ego and weak psyche by poking fun at kids that play lower levels.

Now quit talking and get back to doing what you and your wife do best, suck. And watch the tooth hoosier!

Sounds like the proud AA papa @ 1:38 and 2:16 doesn't realize that the teams at the top half of the A1 standings would give a really good game and in many cases would beat the teams in the bottom half of the AA standings.

Just cause your club declared the team your kid is on as AA doesn't make him a legitimate AA player. Probably an A2 player at most other clubs.

3:51
No, I don't realize nor do I care. His team's not in the bottom half.
I'm just having fun pushing the buttons of the way too serious A1 guy and watching him flip out. Way too easy

I don't understand this forum. Do they still have AA hockey after squirt? Huh. I would have thought most of those kids would have dropped out of hockey by Pee Wee.

Must be hungry for some tube steak, eh?

After the refs agreed to take off a penalty he didn't get a game misconduct. My guess is that they could have gone through a hearing, won, be scolded for going to the refs room, but not suspended, have the refs disciplined, and not have to sit the player for any game.

here's a question, was at cf for a hs game and saw the preceding game supposidly between pw cha aa-1 and cha aa-2. wtf were they thinking calling that other team aa? they were a strong a-2 at best and i think their coach got the boot. ego trip?

Its pretty much like that at every level. The levels they have
2 AA teams at, the second one is getting killed for the most part.
In some circumstances, the first AA team is weak as well. Absolutely
no reason to try and field two AA teams, when the first one can barely
compete. Quite stupid if you ask me. But you know some CF parents think
their kid is being developed because they are skating with the AA #1 team
at practice. Keep drinking that CF kool-aid mommy and daddy.

CHF #1 took it on the chin today 3-5 from an average KC Stars AA (1/2 are '97's I was told)- what does that say about having 2 AA teams? Watered down!!!

Common sense,"normal" people= watered down

Chesterfield = development

there are no AA's in common sense -!

10:10 - That Stars team is ranked #88, far ahead of Affton AA(#131), CHA AA#1 (#151) and STP AA (#172), so your "watered down" comment is total nonsense. Actually, your entire post was BS.

7:30 - What is BS is the rankings - you quote? KC AA team is ranked #88 and is not even .500. Rockets AA had no trouble with the great KC team this am. You tell me a team from KC is that much better than the top AA teams in STL - now that is BS.

Have no ties to this group but happened to be at Rockets vs St Pete game and the Rockets looked very strong. I had heard St Pete was suppose to be the team to beat.

You are out of your mind that game was a fluke the refs were terrible. That was the only reason St Peters lost.

what about CHF 1,their still in the mix

8:03 loves the cock.

CHA and STP game yesterday had one ref. I was curious as to what the rules are on that, first time I've seen a game with one ref

February 7 2009, 10:08 AM

It’s pretty much like that at every level. The levels they have
2 AA teams at, the second one is getting killed for the most part.
In some circumstances, the first AA team is weak as well. Absolutely
no reason to try and field two AA teams, when the first one can barely
compete. Quite stupid if you ask me. But you know some CF parents think
their kid is being developed because they are skating with the AA #1 team
at practice. Keep drinking that CF kool-aid mommy and daddy.

FYI: MO Hockey placed all of the second teams @ AA not CHA.

Top 3 reasons the smaller roster works...
1) More kids practice w/ the top coach
2) Coach has to coach & more importantly play all the kids.
3) Kids skate every other shift in games (no specialty teams laden w/ coach’s’ favorites & no short bench)

Top reason why it will go away:
1) Second (& third) teams were placed at the wrong level by Mo Hockey

Right. When the grand scheme goes awry blame it on the man! In this case blame MO Hockey who had nothing to do with Chesterfields flawed plan to reduce their rosters and have multiple AA teams.

How about a score between CF 1 and St Petes.

According to MoHockey
Chesterfield #1 beat St Peters Spirit and secured League Championship

St Peters could still tie with points with a win and if Affton were to beat #1, however, the tie break is the Falcons.

EOS should be highly interesting:
Only 3 teams have no "real" chance of winning.

9:41 here is your answer

http://www.mohockeyyd.org/MoHockeyRules.jsp

17. RULE 502(i): ABSENCE OF OFFICIALS (addition)
A) Failure of assigned officials to show up for a MAIHA - YD League Game shall be handled as follows:
1) 8 & Under and 10 & Under Divisions:
a) if one properly rated official is available, the game will be played.
b) If no properly rated official is available, the procedures in ubsections 2 through 4 below shall be followed;
2) 12 & Under, 14 & Under, and 17 & Under divisions:
a) if two properly rated officials are not available, it shall be the option of either coach to decline to play the game.
b) If either coach declines to play the game, the matter shall be referred to the appropriate level Commissioner for rescheduling.
c) The Commissioner shall determine who shall furnish the ice and officials.
3) Properly rated officials may be appointed by the agreement of the coaches. Per USA Hockey rule 502(j), if the regularly scheduled officials appear during the progress of the game, they shall at once replace the temporary officials.
4) If neither coach declines to play the game, it shall be played and becomes a bona fide League game, no matter what its outcome.
B) The official(s) failing to show up shall not be paid, and will be fined per MIHOA policies and procedures.
C) For purposes of this rule, a "properly rated" official is described as:
1) Completely USA Hockey registered.
2) The official should be wearing the current USA Hockey officiating crest, and have a USA Hockey official’s registration card. The registration for officials lasts until November 30 of the next season
3) Be at least one playing level higher than that of the scheduled game. (For instance, a 14 & Under-aged official is not a properly rated official for a 14 & Under scheduled game).


so basically, your coach agreed to play the game

11:04am You may want to check the rules. If a tie
between two teams for League occurs at the Pee Wee,
Bantam, or Midget AA then a one game playoff shall
be played. Thats the tie-breaker, no head to head or
anything like that.

Unfortunately for us, St. Pete can't tie CHA. The last game for them is the cyclones and thats only one point.

CHA beat St. Pete last night 3-2. St. Pete played horrible the first period and let in 3 quick goals. Started playing in the 2 & 3rd but couldn't put it away. Only one ref showed up and left his glasses in the car, it was brutal.

Oh well, no excuses, CHA#1's a good team. It will be St. Pete and them in the Championship and anything can happen. 2 one goal losses for St. Pete against them for the season.

Re-read rule you are correct there aren't tie breakers for AA PeeWee and above it is a sudden death game.

Here's a question,
the rule Section C -1 - B reads "Final League standings in the event of a tie:"

Now, it does not say League championship or 1st place.
So......
If 2 teams tie for say 5th place which could be a big difference between 5th and 6th in the EOS brackets.
Is the additional game still required or do you go back to Section C-1-B-1-a) for tie breakers?

extra game only required to break tie for first. other ties broken by the "tiebreakers", I believe.

http://www.mohockeyyd.org/MoHockeyRules.jsp

SECTION C - ADDITIONAL MAIHA - YD RULES

1. POINTS AND LEAGUE STANDINGS

A) Points in league standings for regular league games:

1) WIN: 2 POINTS
2) TIE: 1 POINT
3) LOSS: 0 POINTS

B) Final League standings in the Event of a Tie:

1) If the final league standings result in two or more teams other then Pee Wee, Bantam, Midget Minors or Midget major having an equal number of points, their position in the standings shall be determined by the following tie-breaking format. If one tie-breaker establishes a position for one or more teams, each team is placed in the applicable position. Once a team is placed the remaining tied teams shall start the tie-breakingprocess over again:

a) The results of the head-to-head games played between the tied teams in the following order:
1. Has acquired the most point in head-to-head play
2. Has acquired the most wins in league play
3. Has acquired the greatest surplus difference of "goals-for" minus "goals-against" in their head-to-head competition
4. Has acquired the higher quotient by dividing the goals scored by goals scored against in their head-to-head competition.
5. Has acquired the highest point total as determined by periods won in their head-to-head competition. Points awarded for each regulation period won (2 points) and for each regulation period tied (1 point)
2) Pee Wee, Bantam, Midget Minor or Midget Major Missouri Hockey AA league playoff game. The following shall apply:

a) The game must be played prior to the End of Season tournament
b) Clock runs in the first period.
c) When there are five (5) minutes left in the regulation game time, the time clock is dropped to two (2) minutes of stop time
d) If the score is tied at the end of regulation time
· Prior to the beginning of the game, coaches will list all players in the order the players will shoot in the event a shootout is warranted to break a tied score. Players will be listed on the back of the top (white copy) of the score sheet.
· A one-minute intermission will be put on the clock and teams will remain on/near their bench.
· The teams will then play an additional stop time overtime period of not more than four (4) minutes, with the team scoring first declared the winner. The overtime period shall be played with each team at a numerical strength of four (4) skaters and one (1) goalkeeper. Penalties shall be assessed consistent with the rules in regulation time. See Overtime Notes below for further overtime penalty situations.
· If the score is tied at the end of overtime, a three (3) player shootout will take place. Players in the penalty box at the expiration of overtime play for any infraction other than two (2) minute penalties are ineligible for the shootout. The three (3) different players (in the order listed) will rotate going in on goal with the Visiting team shooting first. All three players will have an opportunity to shoot.
· At the conclusion of the three (3) player shootout round, if the score is still tied, players will continue in a sudden death shootout in which no player from a team may shoot again until all available players on the player’s team have shot. The Visiting team shoots first. If any team scores a goal in the sudden death shootout round in which the opposing team fails to score a goal, play ends and the scoring team wins, (e.g., Shooter #4 or beyond for Visiting team does not score a goal and shooter #4 or beyond for Home team scores a goal. Play ends at that point, before any other shooters shoot, and Home team wins). When all players on one team have shot, that team starts over in the same order the team shot during the first round of the shootout, regardless of the number of shooters on the opposing team.

more then sour grapes....once again stp played a game that the coach should have refused to play. here's why. it was a game to determine the league championship, and it was stp vs. chesterfield @ chesterfield, and only 1 referee showed up. guess what ? you got it. the winning goal was scored on an off sides call the referee was not even close to the blueline to even make the call. even after the game some of the chest. parents were talking about the missed off sides call. well i hope we see them in the EOS. as long as it isn't in the valley and with 1 referee.

How can one ref at a PW-AA League Championship game follow the puck and and be able to see penelties especially behind the play ? Your right poster, Hope that never happens to our team. Good luck in the EOS.

Hey St Pete
Didn't see the game but according to the MO-Hockey site you lost to CHA1 in your rink with I'm assuming 2 refs on 1/7.
Just wondering what your excuse was then?

If there is one ref, can you use a Coach on each bench to call the blueline? A missed call can and does happen, try scoring more goals in the first period.

10:44 Give me a break. You tellin me you wouldn't be pissed if your team got crapped on by lousy reffing in the last game of the regular season for the first place spot?

As far as the first game went; St. Pete was up by a goal with a couple of minutes left, Chesty tied it and scored the winner with a couple of seconds left. Good game by two good teams. The last game St. Pete would've won if they had actually played the first period. Non the less, because of the crap reffing, it cost them tie at least.

Sounds like two pretty even teams. You lost two one goal games. Blame the one ref trying his best working by himself. Chesty is just the better taam. Get over it. The ref didn't miss anything that helped St Pete. Difference is Chesty converted, Petey failed to.

10:56
I wrote the original not the rebuttal.
I have 2 boys who have for the most part been lucky enough to land at AA or better. What you have described has happened all too many times to their teams. What I've learned is that you have to try to get over it & move on… your kids no doubt already have.
Good luck in the Mo Championships to all.

11:23 is right on. To the kids it is a game. They are over it by the time they leave the locker room. It is the warpo parents that dwell on a one hour game being played by 11 and 12 year olds.

It has been an interesting year for my bender and his friends throughout the league, lots of upsets, both good and bad, lots of ties, I've never been associated with any league in any sport with this many ties. Would we rather have had total domination by someone? (Yeah, OUR team, right?)
We are so lucky in St Louis to have this level of hockey in driving distance, the state tournament should be a blast, who are you picking?

So I guess Affton tied last night and moved into a tie with Meramec with the same number of wins, how does that work as a tiebreaker for placement?

Affton is 1-0-1 over Meramec in head-to-head games, so they're placed 3rd.

Part 2, Sec. C, Rule 1B1a:

a) The results of the head-to-head games played between the tied teams in the following order:
1. Has acquired the most point in head-to-head play
2. Has acquired the most wins in league play
3. Has acquired the greatest surplus difference of "goals-for" minus "goals-against" in their head-to-head competition
4. Has acquired the higher quotient by dividing the goals scored by goals scored against in their head-to-head competition.
5. Has acquired the highest point total as determined by periods won in their head-to-head competition. Points awarded for each regulation period won (2 points) and for each regulation period tied (1 point)

So Affton would get third place by going down to the third tiebreaker of "greater surplus difference in goals" during head to head league games?

Well we all know where everyone has placed now that league is over. Only game left is St. Pete against the girls and thats only a point. Any playoff predictions?

or it could go to the first tie-breaker of "most point in head-to-head play"

or, or...you could just say that affton is in 3rd and meramec is in 4th. just a thought.

The five best outskaters in this league are all defensemen, and the top six teams all have plus goaltending. I see some low scoring regulation ties for the playoffs. So get ready for a shoot-out or two.
Sit back and enjoy.

What's an outskater? Is that an inline term? I don't think I've heard it before. Thanks.

10:56 Let me guess, your kids a defensemen on the sixth place team. And you're hoping for an upset in the playoffs. Geesh

Look its Bobby Orr..

February 12 2009, 10:19 AM

Affton is 1-0-1 over Meramec in head-to-head games, so they're placed 3rd.

Part 2, Sec. C, Rule 1B1a:

a) The results of the head-to-head games played between the tied teams in the following order:
1. Has acquired the most point in head-to-head play
2. Has acquired the most wins in league play
3. Has acquired the greatest surplus difference of "goals-for" minus "goals-against" in their head-to-head competition
4. Has acquired the higher quotient by dividing the goals scored by goals scored against in their head-to-head competition.
5. Has acquired the highest point total as determined by periods won in their head-to-head competition. Points awarded for each regulation period won (2 points) and for each regulation period tied (1 point)



Mo Hockey Web site now has MM listed as third & Affton 4th... can someone please explain?

Most likely an excel style database that sorts on the columns available to it.

Therefore sort on:
Point - same
Wins - same
Loss - same
Ties - same
+/- Meramec is ahead.

there is no column for head to head.

If you aren't familiar with the term outskater, then you are a hockey retard, and should find some other sport for your little johnny to play.

Yet another intelligent response.

-- Mo Hockey Web site now has MM listed as third & Affton 4th... can someone please explain?

The league standings don't reflect tie breakers. See the league bracket under State Championships, it shows Affton as third and Meramec as fourth.

Thank You

We are not associated with Affton, but I'm picking them, they want it more.

Good, clean, hardhitting hockey is 99%, "want to"

Sure your not with Affton, I come on here all the time and pick
another organization to win, please.

146 look at the tournament bracket web site schedule. That should answer the question.

http://www.mohockeyyd.org/servlet/Model2Servlet?action=ViewTournamentStandings

My god, whoever is the web guy for mohockey's site should be fired. Creating an HTML bracket that way is borderline retarded.

8:46
Affton must not have "wanted it" that much, they're in 3rd place.

2:33pm

Finishing 3rd, I say pretty good for a team on their 3rd coach

Did the nutty Affton parents burn the other two at the stake?

Bill / Dave?

12:15 PM feel free to volunteer to fix it

And why would I volunteer to fix it?

You wouldn't because then you'd be exposed as the useless, no talent, bag of shit that you are.

Wow you must be the web guy for Mohockey. Very sensitive arent we? How are those Java Server Pages working out for you? Have you ever looked at the mohockeyyd.org website using Firefox? Keep up the good work.

Hey, what happened to St Pete at the presidents day tourney? How about the others? Can you spell the hottest team going into state tourney? M-E-R-A-M-E-C

1156 Where were you when they asked for someboyd to do this. In your hole waiting to crtitsize. At least they are trying to improve the communications, schedules, standings, etc. thru the site on a shoe string budget. Hell of lot better than it was a few years ago. If your so smart them I am sure they would appreciate your expertise to make it better.

What a clown

Hey 619, dont talk about things you have no clue about.

spell check is your friend.

i have plenty of shoestrings

6:18
It's called getting screwed with two 7AM games Saturday and Sunday and an overall lack caring about the tournament. Already came in first and second in the other out of towners.

Don't worry about the playoffs my chicken wing chewing, natty light swiggin south countier, St. Pete will be there. Won't play you anyway, Affton will take Meramec out.

Are you saying you won't get by Affton. Because they are in your bracket.
Check it out... http://www.mohockeyyd.org/servlet/Model2Servlet?action=ViewTournamentStandings

Affton for whatever reason just can not beat St pete, look for st pete vs meramec in finals

Can't be meramec vs St. Pete for the finals. Affton Faces Meramec to advance. It will be Cha vs STP at the end

sorry wrong

Affton came in third they are in the 2nd / 3rd bracket

Meramec came in fourth they are in the 1st / 4th bracket

if 1-4 seed come true for an easy example it will be
Affton vs St Pete in the 2/3
CHA vs Meramec in the 1/4
The only way Affton and Meramec will play is in the championship

p.s. it could also be CHA vs St Pete.

Regular season: over, crown the champs at chesterfield, St Pete and Affton gave them a run for their money, Can anybody beat them for the State Title? Can St Pete get by Affton one more time to play chesterfield in the finals? Who has the best goaltending? Can anyone pull an upset?
That's why we play 'em boys! Have fun and leave it all on the ice. I,for one will enjoy watching.

BEST ADVICE OVERHEARD THIS YEAR: KEEP YOUR HEAD UP

Any predictions for this weekend?

Snow.

A lot of screaming, ticked off parents. That's prediction.

Well it's St. Pete vs CHA #1 for the Championship. Not surprising, two good teams, chesty's got the advantage though.

Congrats to all the teams! Good year.