What do people think of the team.

that you're a dick

Gonna be really good. Gotta count on those power forwards to help out the D.

Great, now there are 3 95AAA threads...you guys really are whacko!

Great start to the season boys. Keep up the good work!

More talent + improved team chemistry + much better coaching = improved 95 team

They lost to a AA team from Dallas?

Dallas Ice Jets are designated a AAA team. No execuse to lose to them though. Lost to them 3-2 yesterday morning, goalie for Dalles played well. Blues out shot them 30-12. Blues Kids did not come to play and took them lightly. Played them this morning beat them 10-0 and outshot them 45-5. Granted this was Dallas's fifth game of the weekend so they were a little tired.

Affton 95's beat the Dallas group. Oh my!

Oh, my! I think you're a sh?"t disturber! Don't you want to talk about how you have the best players? Aren't you just dying to start that all over again? Well, you should beat them if you have the best kids; right? Did you beat them 10-0? Did you also lose? Oh, my!!!!!!!!!

Lions and tigers and bears OH MY!!!

The 95 Dallas Icejets were a hardworking "team" and played well this weekend.
They split with the 95 AAA team and the 95 Affton team.
What were their scores against Chesterfield?

Nobody talking about the best players. AAA has that department covered. Affton is just a good option for a lot less money with good coaching, a competitive league, and a chance to play at a high level despite the attempt of St. Louis AAA to throw up roadblocks. They push their minor league (Chesterfield) down people's throat telling them play in the Valley and you will be seen and moved up, but we all know when they need players they raid the Affton teams. No big deal. But tell people the plain truth. Thats all. Bye Bye! PS: Al, any more players up North you can bring down. The St. Louis talent sucks.

I have a son that plays AAA and a son that plays Affton. I can tell you the Affton poster above is a complete idiot with no common sense, integrity or maturity. Affton and AAA teams both have some great talent and coaching. This is not an AND/OR situation- both clubs have a lot of offer. Both clubs have good games and bad games.

I agree with the last poster. As stated in other threads, affton got some kids "too good for AAA" and both teams are doing well. A true win win...

What is the point of the "too good for AAA" and what did it really add to the thread? The Blues have the majority of the STL area AAA talent, NO QUESTION. They also passed on some very good potential AAA caliber talent. Affton and Chesterfield are better teams because of this and the Blues "MAY" have thrown away an opportunity to be the number one team at 95. It looks like both sides will have very good seasons this year so that in itself is good for STL hockey.

We are both saying the same thing in different ways. I did think it was one of the funniest things I had seen written on n54 that kids were not taken on the team because "they were too good for AAA" ......

Seen a lot of reasons why kids were not taken on a team over the years
too small, too slow, bad foot speed, poor shot, no ice awareness, too selfish, too tempramental, parent(s) too crazy to justify, etc. But too good for AAA is a new one on me.

It just seems like an on going dig directed at an emotional parent and it has gotten old. This is N54 so it's expected, but it takes away from any point you try to make.

To poster who has boys playing on both 95AAA and Affton. Quick to defend honor of AAA, but where are you when they take shots at Affton every day,all day long on this thread. In hiding, hoping your last one can wear the Blue sweater. We also can defend our program, and to post that someone lacks maturity and other qualities usually associated with "the morons" at Affton is a common answer from the true sheep that follow the general and others out to the Valley. But remember, we are not the ones usually quick to point out our rankings, development, and other accomplishments. And our teams will play anytime, anywhere, against the boys in the Valley. Not to prove a point, but to push our kids to the next level.

I think the "too good for AAA" was a sarcastic remark made buy a trouble making parent. I don't think that is the answer the coach gave as to the reason not selected..... but it sure does make for some good N54 folklore

To 1:17 - We actually have 3 sons, one plays Affton, one plays AAA, the other is in a learn to skate program in St. Peters, close to our home- (a little crazy I know, but we carpool and that helps) Each son has a different level of natural hockey talent. We chose Affton over CHA (STP doesnt have a CS league any longer) because we liked the coaching choice better for that particular age group. Overall both Affton and CHA have great parents and coaching- we have met some some really great kids and parents all around, you just get the one or two (or 5 or 10) ridiculous parents who use n54 like a 4th grade schoolyard to call each other names and put the boys and coaches down- it is actually laughable most days. Every once in a while there will be a meaningful interesting thread with well thought out opinions and dialogue that keep most of us coming back for more- the rest is just ignoramus noise. Go Affton, Go Chesterfield, Go St. Peters, Go AAA, may the best teams win!

2:58 - Just out of pure curiousity. Why not just keep your kids at STP and play AA? What is it you are trying to achieve by having your kids play AAA & CS? Must be extremely consuming from both a time and financial stand point.

This is not a set up to blast your answer, but I can't promise someone won't. Would like to hear the answer if you care to share.

On Saturday night Dallas beat us (Chesterfield Bantam Majors) by a score of 3-2. We had 4(FOUR!) of our 9 forwards missing, therefore playing them with only 5(FIVE!) forwards. So, I thought "just wait until we have the rest of our forwards when we play tomorrow!". Sunday we played them with 7 forwards, and STILL lost 3-2. We DID enjoy the games immensely. They were better than us, but we came THIS close!

The Dallas IceJets played very well this weekend. They showed all three STL teams how to lose at least a game. They had a good group of parents as well. It would be great to play them again this year.

Dallas Ice Jets did have a fun group of parents- boys played hard and it certainly taught our AAA sons a thing or 2 about determination and tenacity. The were a different team the 2nd game. Good hockey all around. What a great sport!

To answer 3:07 - (sorry off topic) Our son wanted to try out for Affton CS to play with some old teammates, honestly didnt think he would make the team, but the CS Tier II travel hockey is very good, a step up from STP AA- Not sure he has the skill set for AAA like our oldest son, but Selects out of STP is another AAA option or back to AA... doesnt really matter, take it year by year. CS is more expensive of course than AA but we can afford it and he is playing at the highest level of his ability. I do miss using the ice at St. Peters which is practically in our backyard- STP is a very nice facility.

So what you are saying is you can afford for three kids to play hockey at "the highest level they are capable" of playing. Good for you that you are finacnially blessed.
There are some who are not so finacially fortunate and for them AA is as good as it gets, and even then it is a financial burden. For those who think a kid has a chance at AAA hockey if they are not financially blessed you are living in a dream world. NO team will take your kid based on talent alone if you cannot afford the team fees and fly around the country with the team almost every weekend.
$20K a year for AAA hockey is two years at Mizzou or any state school. Think about that.

Okay, I just thought about it. Now what do you want me to do?

ok, here is what I think- I think a lot of talented AAA players pay a lot of money to play. I think a few AAA kids are provided some subsidy, I think some AA are probably good enough for AAA, but choose not to. I think a lot of AAA parents aren't expecting anything other than the experience of their kid playing hockey at a high level and life lessons learned with travel hockey. I think a few parents dream of the NHL. I think most AAA kids will play AAA hockey AND go on to college with academic scholarships but no hockey scholarships. There are a lot of smart kids playing AAA hockey.

7:33 thanks for answering the question, it was not me who responded with the critisizim.

95s are in London Ontario for a 3-day tournament- off to a good start with a 6-0 victory over the London Jr. Knights- competition will pick up as they progress- surprisingly still ranked #4 after their split with the Dallas Icejets last weekend. A good showing at this tournie will help solidfy their right to be in a the Top Ten ranking. Have 6 games in a row against TI (#2) beginning late October/early November.

I hope both the affton and blues squad bring back national championships but I am a little confused to the thought by the guy talking about how much talent there is at the 95 birth year. If you look at the myhockeyrankings they have beat some mid level tier I teams but taking that into consideration they would currently be ranked 35th at tier I. I think the squad will finish twop ten at tier II. Just asking a question of you, but would you consider a top 40 ranking a success at tier I a success for a second club or would you be happier finishing top ten at tier II. Either way you answer, I do not see some huge deep talent at 95.

I started to agree with 3:15s post. not sure the 95 birth year can support 2 AAA- but there is also talent on the CHA CS team- and at this age a lot of boys are still developing and growing into their man bodies. I think the 95 birth year could support 2 AAA teams.

Well, chesterfield would currently be ranked 65th at tier I. I think it is a matter of what you define as success for the team. They probably could take the best players off each team and be ranked about 30th or so at Tier I. Would that be a success to be a mid level tier I team?

To some it would and others it would not be. I say let the kids be a kick ass tier II team and the players that stand out can go on to tier I like it is now.

There is considerable difference between a good tier I and a good Tier II team.

there are no differences between these teams that amount to anything. most of the tier one players are indistinguishable from the tier two players; the only distinctions between the two groups of kids exist only in the minds of the delusional tier one dads. most of these kids are spoon-fed wusses and have no idea what it is to be tough in the face of adversity. sorry to day it tier one dads, if you were wusses, your kids are probably wusses, too.

Hey it is nice to hear from the "most tier I kids are spoon fed wusses" guy.

Do you know how idiotic it is to say? Most (blank) people are (blank)

Fill in those two blanks with whatever words you want. You are a complete buffoon.

You might even be that same guy who came up with the you could take any good athlete and make him an NHL'r in five years because as we all know, hockey is filled with many wusses....

95 AAA are headed to the Final Four tomorrow morning at the Earlybird London Jr.Knights tournie in London Ontario. 96AA are headed there as well.

Pretty good for a bunch of wusses!

Good representation for St. Louis, you have to admit, even if they are not the best players, wusses, not deep talent, etc., as has been said over and over. Something has to be good about both teams, don't you think? They can't all be wusses. Hockey is not a wussy sport, last I checked.

Hockey is a wussy sport - that is my point. Hockey draws most of its kids from the upper income bracket. The kids from the lower middle class and under don't play the sport, as a general rule. Most of the tougher kids, with some exceptions, come from the lower income families. Hockey is an elitist sport, as is tennis, golf, and squash. The elitist sports, for the most part, are not filled with tough kids; they are filled with wusses. That is just the truth.

So if your family happens to make more money, you are a wussy? And you base this on what? You been to a game at higher levels and watched the speed of that game and the force at which those players hit each other?

It sounds like you have a severe class of class envy.

So there is a correlation between a kid whose parents have more money and the liklihood that they are a wussy? What do you base that on their whiz kid?

Looks like 95AAA and 96AAA in the final four, 99AAA had a good showing 3-1 record but missed the final four by goal differential.

If you have to twist my argument into a strawman to knock it down, don't respond next time. I never said all rich kids are wusses; I said that, with some exceptions, all rich kids are wusses. I have been around both poor and rich kids all of my life, and it has been my experience that the poor kids are tougher. I don't know why you have a problem with that statement. I'm not bashing rich kids; I don't have a case of class envy (I am not sure which class you think I belong, but to solve the mystery (assuming there is one) I would be considered a "rich" dad. I also think that rich kids, in general, do better in school than poor kids. I base this on my experience with both classes of kids. Certain classes of kids, in general, have certain traits. These traits are learned; they are not genetic. If you took your rich kid and placed him in a poor family from Ferguson (for example) at a relatively young age (5 or 6 years old), he would probably be a tougher kid than he otherwise would have been. Only a goof would think otherwise.

Now take your hockey players. Most hockey players have dads who make a lot of money compared to kids who come from Ferguson, Jennings, Riverview, etc... Their kids, in general, are not as tough as these North County kids. Comparatively speaking, with some exceptions, the West County, Kirkwood, Webster, etc... kids are wusses.

95's in the final vs. Ottawa. bad news is that Ottawa beat Halton in the other semi and Halton beat the 95's in pool play.

96's in thier final as well.

http://www.londonjuniorknights.com/tournaments_results.asp

Ottawa Valley looks beatable- should be a good match up - both ended pool play with 3-1 records if I read the results correctly. no blowouts, no shutouts, by Ottawa.

Blues shut out London Green 6-0 but London Green scored 4 off of Ottawa in a 6-4 win for Ottawa.

Ottawa lost to London Gold which ended with a 2W, 1L, 1T record. (worst record than the Blues).

Toronto, who the Blues just beat to advance to the final, was the only unbeaten team (3W, 1T) in regular play.

.....looks like 96AAA is going to run away with their tournament win- 0 GA, 30 GF.

They should do away with AAA hockey; it is a farce. I guess there are so many chump dads out there willing to pay the $10,000 freight per year in pursuit of their delusional belief that their Little Johnny Shit-in-the-Pants is going to make it to the nhl that the AAA organization cannot help but take their money.

If you think $20k covers 2 years at the Zou, you are in for some serious sticker shock if you send your kid there & I have the receipts to prove it.

95s win the final against Ottawa Valley 5-3

A major upset for the 96AAA losing 0-1 in their final game.

I have a question for the "Johnny shit in the pants" guy. We are talking about 95 birth year kids who are 14. Do you know many 14 year olds who still shit in their pants? If so, I think they have much bigger problems than what hockey team they happen to make.

Congrats to the 95 team! Cost = $1000 for amazing memories, plus leadership and teamwork skills that will last a lifetime. Every white collar and blue collar parent on that team would probably say its worth it!!

Congratulations to the 95AAA team! Way to go, Blues! Wow!

Now there needs to be a newly-formed thugs hockey association/team. Then your honor rolls students/wusses can take us thugs on and see who comes out on top. What a joke!

Why don't you go check out a game? There are some pretty tough hockey players on most teams. Smart, too. Elitist, maybe. Oh, and guess what, there are some thugs on some teams, too. That's what the penalty box is for. Just because your dad has money you are a wuss and play elitist sports is ridiculous. Yes, lower class does stereotypically mean tougher, rougher, more criminal-minded. Athletic ability does not equate to lower class. You have no clue what you are talking about.

8:01 and 1:01 You have not a clue what you are talking about!!! Our son has played AAA and C.S. We are middle class and will sacrifice for our kids. None of your business but since you think we are morons to have our kids play what the hell. Tell my 6ft 14 year old hes a wussy.See what happens.By wussy you must mean they don't work for a living or help support the family. Well, there is plenty of time for them to be adults. You are entitled to your opinion, but so is everyone else. After all,opinions are like assh****, everyone has one. Yours just happens to suck.

I like the idea for the newly formed league, we can call it the Hugs-N-Thugs League. Will have to be at least as well received as the Prospects league. I do not care what "Johnny shit in the pants" says, he has an enormous case of class envy. Sure he is well to do...whatever.

Either that or he has not been to a good tier I game at midgets to see the speed at which those players run into each other. You can say whatever you want wuss guy, but do not go through life being jealous of others of others, it really does no good.

Here's an idea: Let's put our hockey players (14, 13 year olds) in a room with the guy who calls them a wuss, or his tough kid, tell our kids what he thinks of them and their sport, and see what happens.

Congrats to the 95 Blues! Nice showing up North, but considering no team they played was ranked in top ten and most in the twenties and thirties the outcome should have been expected.

Toronto Jr. Canadians were ranked 6th in Canada. Halton was ranked 12. Tournament also included Elgin who was ranked 5th and Qunite who was ranked 7th that did not make it out of pool play to Ottawa the team St. Louis beat in the finals.

"Outcome should have been expected." Please nobody respond to this ignorant remark. Going to Ontario, playing top ten ranked Canadian teams, with a team that has struggled in the past, and the "outcome should have been expected." This is a person that is just trying to belittle this "unexpected" win and antagonize the people involved. Don't respond and he'll hopefully crawl back into the hole that he came out of.

Teams played:
Canadian:
Toronto Canadians 6
Halton Hurricanes 12
Ottawa Valley Titans 24
London Jr Knights 43

US:
Amherst Knights 40

How do the Canadian teams rank with the MyHockey Rankings in US numbers?

1 in top ten
1 in top teens
2 in top 30
1 in top 40 (US)

Congrats to the boys not to mention their 4-3 victory in the semis after being down 3-1. Awesome job!!!

Congrats 95 Blues!the girls at SJA think you are all hot!!

I think it was officially a 5-3 victory, way to go Blues!

I agree with 7:17

The Blues are ranked 4th. They should be expected to beat any team ranked under top 10. There was one top ten team in the tournament, at 7 or 8 in the US rankings and the Blues beat them by one goal. Expected! The team they beat in the championship is ranked in the 20s in the US. Totally expected outcome! Congratulation to the Blues for a job well done, but it wasn't the second coming of Miracle.

no it wasnt the second coming, but if you have been following any of the 95 threads, it has been said based on team selections this team would fall apart. Improving so quickly from their 08 22nd ranking (and 07 86th ranking) really should be commended. They havent been a #4 for very long so cut em a break- this team is motivated and working hard! Gornet is an outstanding leader and coach.

I have followed the threads and I don't recall total fall aparts. I do recall comments that the team could have been a number one team had it not been for a few feel good picks. By the way, rumor has it that the main line gets by far the majority of play time. Is this true? If so, there may just be an unraveling later in the season when the money parents aren't seeing their player on the ice much. If there is this main line getting the most time, are they the new picks? I'm just curious if the rumors are fact.

I have got to agree with the last guy. The 95 has always been one of the most underperforming group of birth years in St. Louis. A couple of years ago was their worst with Moorhouse. They are off to a great start this year especially considering where they came from. Those who predicted their demise where wrong. Having said that, those who are proclaiming this to be a hugely talented birth year really need to give me a hit of whatever they are smoking.

10:30 you are wrong- due to a few injuries the lines have been pretty mixed with lots of diffent lines scoring and players scoring. might have started out that way (to some degree)in the first few games of the season, but all the boys (d&f) are really stepping up.

That's fine, apparently rumors and nothing more. Again, I was just curious to the true of the "rumors". I hope the team continues to do well.

someone in the other thread pointed out their schedule for the next three weekends; yikes!

TI for 3 games here
TI for 3 games in Chicago

Elite division games at Nike/Bauer vs:
Hamilton, ON
Honeybaked
Don Mills Flyers, ON
FLA Everblades

http://www.invitebauer.com/_boys/09_E95.htm

I'm surprised that LA Selects were placed in the same group as the Russians. That would have made a great Championship game but, now, one of them doesn't even make the quarterfinal.

Sounds like an awesome opportunity for the 95 Blues- as my son always states, "you wanna be the best, you got beat the best!"

someone in the other thread pointed out their schedule for the next three weekends; yikes!

TI for 3 games here
TI for 3 games in Chicago

Elite division games at Nike/Bauer vs:
Hamilton, ON
Honeybaked
Don Mills Flyers, ON
FLA Everblades

http://www.invitebauer.com/_boys/09_E95.htm

I'm surprised that LA Selects were placed in the same group as the Russians. That would have made a great Championship game but, now, one of them doesn't even make the quarterfinal.

It seems obvious that the Chicago based tournament wanted some of the top teams to be eliminated early so hopefully their boys can have a better chance of moving on.

Thanks for the correction. So AAA hockey is an even bigger waste of money. Look what happened to the lowly Russell Stover 95 "AAA". Affton 95 CS whipped 'em!! So much for the "showcase" team from KC, Omaha, Waterloo....

5-2, 2-1, 5-3 is an ass whipping?

I realize that Bad Vlad Putin is encouraging the revival of the old school USSR sports programs, but naming this team the "Soviet" Wings seems pretty blatant!

10:47 and all, to dispel the "rumors", come and watch the 95 games sometime - what you will see is EVERYONE on the team contributing and ALL lines scoring. Yes, CC still leads the team in goals, which is great, but the gap is narrowing, which is also great. Several games over the last several weeks had major goal contributors outside of CC, and they led the team in goals/assist. MG made some great new pics for Fs but they only enhanced the team, they are not the sole contributors. too bad stats are not posted as you would see EVERYONE is contibuting.

any time a st louis team wins at any level its good for all st louis hockey-to many negative dads on here

when MG took his Bantam A1 team and kicked the heck out of the aaa blues everybody on these aaa threads bad-mouthed the A1 team and MG. Now that MG has taken over a AAA team and is winning with this team, MG is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The truth is that he is a wonderful coach, but the difference between an extremely well coached A1 team or a AA team is a distinction without a difference quality-wise and about $8,000 difference otherwise.

MG has all the best 95s. Lets not say its all coaching. Its easy to coach when you can roll 3 very good lines out every shift.

Lets not say he has all the best 95's either. That is too general of a statement.

It's a completely ridiculous statement.

Yes, I would say there's no way to know if all the best 95s are on the AAA team. There's always a sleeper out there somewhere. But something is working for the team this year, be it the new additions, or just shaking things up a bit brought a new spark. Good luck to them in the upcoming weeks. It will be tough. Hopefully the injured players will be back in the game. Playing with 7 or 8 forwards won't take them through TI and the Nike Bauer tournament. Good job so far, boys. Keep it up! Whatever you're doing seems to be working.

They are Dominators

Good Luck 95 Blues- I hope all the players are back for TI! (but I think I heard there are new injured players from the LJrK tournament? is that true? I think someone posted they were already skating short at LJrK tournie.

Great team!

Good coaching. Good recruiting.

not only is mg avery good coach, but is an even better person. There have been too many coaches that "got a lot out of the kids" in St. Louis, who have been given passes because of shall we say dubious off ice incidents. Its wonderful to see a great person and a great coach be promoted after all the knuckle heads triple a has had. This is one of the smartest moves the triple a board has made in the 15 years I have been around ST. Louis hockey. I don't have a child in the 95 year but know both mg and gj from other circumstances, two excellent embassidors for hockey. Good on ya mates.

Definitely two very intelligent, stand-up guys. Hockey aside, it's a nice change. They definitely picked a good team. Good luck to all.

Pat Pat Pat

Good luck to the boys this weekend against TI! Hopefully stay injury-free! How many kids won't be playing in the games due to injury and/or illness? Short bench?

might be a short bench- a few have been sick this week too but might also be true for TI with all the flu goin around.

If the whole team is sharing the scoring and great play of the AAA team then missing a few players shouldn't hurt.

Could even help.

Who won today between TI & Jr Blues?

TI swept the Blues easily this weekend. Not a great showing by 95AAA, sorry to say. TI is just that good.

October 20 8:18

Sorry for the bad weekend against TI. I'm sure the boys equally had a poor showing since they all contributed equally. If you had missing players, it shouldn't had mattered due to the high quality of players up and down your lines and the superior coaching this year. Good luck next weekend against TI. Go Blues!

I am sure the team learned a few valuable lessons this weekend that will hopefully help them continue to improve- passing, passing, passing. TI is just amazing at passing as well as speed. although they had enough goals that would have kept them in the game with many teams, not TI- defense has to be really strong against TI- Blues got caught a number of time pinching up.

What happened?

2-7, 3-5, 2-6

This weekend:

2 - 2 tie
7 - 1 loss
8 - 4 loss

Maybe someone should tell the coaches that they have 3 lines not 1? Maybe just maybe we can work on something else in practice besides the powerplay? I wonder if the coach is going to be reprimanded for his awful language he used all weekend. Calling players names, and going crazy. I doubt anything will change except for the losing.

Ouch!

October 19th 10:09

Has the fall apart that you spoke of began?

I thought Gober wasn't coaching the '95's.

Its ok for a dad to mf and call players names. Teaching them that if you are the top line/players you can do whatever you want. Never works with the defense and expects miracles out of them. Coaching doesn't matter at the beginning of the season but now when the competition gets tough coaching plays a bigger role than you think. What you have learned in practice, etc. comes into play.

Oh Jeez here we go again.

Hockey Stop cover jinx strikes again.

9:26 What are you smoking?

Must be a former AAA player or Affton parent trying to stir the pot.

Good Luck 95s! You are raising the bar, playing the tough teams and taking a hard road, but it will only make you better. TI is a one of the best in the nation- no disgrace in playing them to a loss - (and tie) showed you can compete and win with some improvement. I have a 96er and we are proud of your accomplishments and effort.

Must be a former AAA player or Affton parent trying to stir the pot

There is obviously some disgruntled players/parents on the team stop blaming Affton or former AAA players for these comments.Your rose colored glasees are getting fogged up.

Must be a former AAA player or Affton parent trying to stir the pot

There is obviously some disgruntled players/parents on the team stop blaming Affton or former AAA players for these comments.Your rose colored glasses are getting fogged up.

From an outsider perspective (I live a few states away), the 95 Blues have made HUGE strides from last year, it's night and day and everyone associated with the team should get a pat on the back and told to "hang in there". Playing one of the toughest schedules in the country, beating good teams and/or being competitive with the best teams in NA is something that everyone in STL should be proud of, not dogging them about. Big F'n deal, TI pounded them a few times, so what? TI is pretty damn good.

Top to bottom, pound-for-pound, STL hockey is as good as it gets; whether at the AAA level, or AA, it doesn't matter. Not sure how you're doing it, but you're doing it. Good on ya'...If I didn't hate the area so much, I'd move down there so my kid could play there...Lion's Choice might be worth the move though.

What happens in November is not as important as what happens in March/April.

This team is fine. If someone is disgruntled, I don't think the rest of the team knows it. They played with six regular forwards and one defense playing forward, five defensemen. Everyone got plenty of ice time. It does not appear that anyone is being treated with favoritism. Everything seems very even...obviously so.

I guess its ok to cuss at the kids and call them names?

They are night and day from last year. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. When you get rid of your bottom 3 or 4 players and replace them with a top line now you should have 3 good lines not 1 in a half or 2.

Then why does only one line get the majority of play? They'll wear down by mid-year and be much less effective.

The lines are run evenly. Even if they weren't, top lines always get the most time in crucial games. It's AAA.

There is no power play squad, there is no set penalty kill, there is no benching. Even-Steven. Roll 'em. It's crazy.

Its time for the winers and the haters to step down, for them to complain about some cuss words????? wow MG never cussed right? He just demolished every water bottle in the state. Mike is gone and the 95s have a great new coaching staff, get over it loser parents. I'm sorry little johnnie benderankles didn't make the team this year, but find a different hobbie, like pulling the wings off of flies, and take your hating to other venues. The 95s will be just fine without you. Wow a triple a team that didn't evenly share ice? How scandilous. Cry to your priest, rabbi, or coven master, but please find something better to do than write stupid comments on this board.

The question is whether the MILF Enhancement Consolidation Strategic Initiative was actually achieved?

You need 3 lines to win. You can't rely on one line the entire game and belittle the other players. You have to hold all the lines accountable not just lines 2 and 3.

You need 3 lines to win. You can't rely on one line the entire game and belittle the other players. You have to hold all the lines accountable not just lines 2 and 3.

Whay when you have 1 superstar line that can do no wrong ever lol

You need 3 lines to win. You can't rely on one line the entire game and belittle the other players. You have to hold all the lines accountable not just lines 2 and 3.

Why? when you have 1 superstar line that can do no wrong- "ever" lol

Sounds like some of the long term buddies and parents with the money are getting upset about their little jonnies not getting the ice time over the new boys. You parents knew you were getting a free pass this year, so just suck it up. The new players are getting the extra ice time for a reason. They have to cover for your kids inability to play at the higher level that a top ten team requires. Get over it or stop showing up for the tougher games.

It was just a matter of time...

It is my understanding the lines are pretty well mixed up these days (last few weeks at least) due to injuries/sickness. The team has been 2-3F short for several games. Not sure what is in the rumor mill, but I saw a game or 2 weekends ago and it was all mixed up- a few players (old and new) are being double shifted, but they have been hot scorers or playmakers so that makes a lot of sense.

You apparently have trouble with jersey numbers or just need better glasses.

ok so what are the jersey numbers?

Re: 95 AAA November 4 2009, 7:33 AM

Its time for the winers and the haters to step down, for them to complain about some cuss words????? wow MG never cussed right? He just demolished every water bottle in the state. Mike is gone and the 95s have a great new coaching staff, get over it loser parents. I'm sorry little johnnie benderankles didn't make the team this year, but find a different hobbie, like pulling the wings off of flies, and take your hating to other venues. The 95s will be just fine without you. Wow a triple a team that didn't evenly share ice? How scandilous. Cry to your priest, rabbi, or coven master, but please find something better to do than write stupid comments on this board.

Response:

Don't know what your talking about but Little Johnnie Benderankles is on the AAA team!!!

St. Louis hockey, per capita, best in the U.S. by a substantial margin...

St. Louis hockey parents? Not so good...

7:47
You are obviously smoking too much of the crack you are supposed to be selling. How many players who grew up playing hockey in St. Louis have made it to the NHL? My hometown has 10,000 residents and we have had three (Millen, Plante and Langenbrunner) make it to the show. That is one for every 3,333. St Louis has a population of 2.8 million. That means you would have to have MORE than 840 players from St Louis make it to the NHL for your claim to be valid. Start naming them...

10:33

I may know this fine player, does Johnnie Benderankles have a Benderankles brother?

I think by per capita the guy meant per number of kids playing, not number of residents. I also think he probably meant now, not in the 1950s. Not sure if he's right, but the hockey is pretty good here given there are only 3,500 or so registered minor players.

OK smart guy, these players actually played in the last ten years and one is the current captain for the NJ Devils. I am not talking about guys who played one game or season, but actually made a career in the NHL. There are several more who only played a few years; however, how many from St. Louis can even say that?

Do you think there are 3,500 kids playing hockey in a town of 10,000? The original poster is seeing his profits go up in a cloud of his own smoke. I would put the Detroit, Boston or Minneapolis metro area up against St. Louis any day no matter how you try to spin the numbers.

There are actually slightly over 5000 kids registered with USA hockey at MM and below age groups in St Louis. The only NHL's I can think of that are making a career of it are:

Statsney in Colorado
Butler in Buffalo
Janssen here in St. Louis.

There may be someone else I have not thought of. But your point is well taken and the most intersting thing to me about Minnesota hockey, they dont even have AAA and they send a shitload of kids to the NHL. How is that possible? <------tounge implanted firmly in cheek....

don' forget Ben Bishop, and Yan Stastny as well there are also a few on the cusp. so stick that in your blow hole why doncha

I thought he was asking about people that actually made a living in the NHL, not people who are up and down.

He was talking about constant NHL'rs. not people heading up and down the ladder..

And this has what to do with the 95AAA team and there great year.

95 AAA probably disappointed not to get a 4th point at NB, but the competition was pretty salty.

LA Selects win the division with victories today over TI (3-2), Shattuck (2-1), and Westchester (7-1). This is the group that won Tier II Nationals at Bantam Major last year (which included a win over Affton CS) after winning Tier I Nationals at PW Major the year before. Looks like they've earned the top ranking at this early stage of the season.

So why did the 95s not show so well at Nike/Bauer?

What happened to the 95 AAA team? Um not much unexpected.

Lost by 1 to the number 3 ranked Honeybaked
Lost by 1 to the number 1 ranked team in Canada

Got beat by two better teams

Beat Hamilton and they should have

Tied # 14 Florida...a team ranked about the same. So they did about what they should have been expected.

They still have the best 95 in the country on the team. The kid is a horse and played like no other at the bauer invite.

What are you smoking, he a very good player but best player in the country? Who you kidding?

not a good coach

Why?

Not sure if he is a good coach or not. But do know this team is doing far better than it has ever done. The 95's have always been a major dissappointment and this year they are a top ten team. Say what you want, but the results are hard to refute.

They'd be better if he would've taken the top kids. Added some, but not all, of the best. The kids he added are doing the majority of the scoring.

Well, this has been the fifth year of this birth year playing AAA. I know it was mentioned that some of the kids might have been too good for AAA. So besides those too good kids, it appears the coach got it way more right than anyone in the previous four years.

It's because some kids tried out for the team that hadn't in the past. Other coaches would've taken them, too.

Well getting the best kids to come out for the team is one of the jobs of the coach. Sounds like he did that. Are you the same guy that said he picked some of the wrong guys? So good for him for doing whatever he did to encourage kids to come out that had not in previous years.

True. He took a few new kids, passed on some, and remained loyal to some. They're good, but they could be better.

Coach is doing fine.
Here is the link to the Nike Bauer top scorers leader board:

http://www.pointstreak.com/players/players-division-leaders.html?divisionid=32016&seasonid=4853&numplayers=all&sortby=

Top Scorers for the 95 team: CC for 3G &3A = 7pts, KT for 3G &3A= 6pts, AP = for 2G & 3A= 5pts, TH for 2G & 2A = 4pts.

So it is a mix of old and new- one line with 12pts and one line with 10pts. That is the facts.

Coach did just fine on 09-10 player selection

correction to above CC for 3G & 4A = 7pts

Can't dispute the facts

In response to 8:34's comment, "They still have the best 95 in the country on the team. The kid is a horse and played like no other at the bauer invite".

He is an excellent player, but look at the NB pts- the top two lines scored the same amount of goals @5, he is no doubt a top scorer and probably #1 forward on the team, but "played like no other at the bauer invite, top forward in the country", lets get real! But the kid without a doubt has a future.

So the facts are based on one tournament?

Spoken like a true jealous dad. CC is one of the best forwards in the country. Time will tell what happens but stay tuned. The kid is already being scouted for several opportunities and has several teams salivating to get him. Good luck to him as he continues to move forward with his hockey options.

Why don't we check the entire season stats? That would make the most sense; wouldn't it? Although they're not on Pointstreak, I'm sure someone has them somewhere.

I don't care about stats. The fact is he has all the tools and scouts are talking and the kid has options. Your jealous opinions don't count. IN other words no one really cares what you think but you.

8:14

I have heard the kid is only in 8th grade this year. Seems to have a bright future and next year and no doubt in the next few years will have some choices to make that most kids do not have the choice to make. Good luck to the young man.

He is very very good and the entire package. To have dads on hear trying to cut him down says it all - that he is in fact the real deal and it makes all the jealousy come out. Congrats Conner - keep up the good work!!!

5:59

Who is not a good coach and why?

95 parent reading this entire thread this morning- i dont see anyone cutting down CC! - great talent- best forward at the 95 level- but in response to the original poster trashing the coach and insinuating that CC carries the team- and that the coach missed a bunch of great players that is nothing but a bunch of BS. CC is top scorer and has a lot to do with the 95's success, but there are several other solid AAA forwards on the team- entire team scoring goals was the poster's point I believe- the team this year appears to have good chemistry- and they also have success this year- sorry Affton's year is falling apart but no reason to come on N54 to stir the pot and whine yet again that your son's glory was stolen by not being selected to the AAA team.

Daddy, don't be so sure it is affton stirring the pot.

Thanks to coach for the time he puts in.

Easy to be Monday morning quarterback or coach from the stands. Who cares. It is youth hockey.

WHO ARE THEY?

Not your son

Always pointing the finger at Affton as pot stirring. Your group is full of nutjobs as well as the shirt tail riders at Chesterfield that don't have the balls to go elsewhere for something better if they don't make the AAA cut. Look around the valley and you will find all of your pot stirring nut cases.

Lots of stirring from the valley lately.

looks like they have their hands full this weekend

http://www.torontomarlboros.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=100

And according to inside sources, haven't had a practice in two weeks.

big deal..........Fat, dumpy and unathletic dads should now go to the assembly line.

Good Luck to Coach Gornet and the team in Toronto this weekend, I hope you bring home another trophy from Canada.

the odds are 1,000,000 to 1 that they won't even make the semis. What a stupid trip to go to Toronto the day after Christmas. He doesn't coach he just sends the same 3 or 4 guys out every other shift. What has he taught them at practice????????????? NOthing He is a great recruiter though, funny what money can buy? When you chip in 50,000 so you can coach it makes you wonder. He didn't develop one of the players!

And you know all of this how? Just a hater. Good luck boys!