Now that the pre-tryouts are in full swing. Any comments.

Play for Affton.

Top players will head to Chesterfield

Seems to be....that the better players are at both tryouts?

Affton. All the way.

Who cares! AAA is better and if your kid isn't there you suck as a parent . . . no, as a spouse . . . no. no, as an American . . . no, worse, as a human being who doesn't deserve to be on the earth . . . in fact, you're the cause of Global Warming and the death of baby polar bears! Oh, ya, and good luck to all the skaters no matter who you play for this year. I mean that sincerely . . . especially for you AAA guys where it really matters.

Big question is, how does the coaching compare Affton vs. Chesterfield. I've heard good things about Affton's coaching, but not familiar with the Chesterfield coaches. Any input??

CHA MM 51% to 50% Affton MM, Affton MM- Tough to compete against a National Championship, but Affton did a fine job digging out of the hole they were in last year and winning the Central Districts and making it to Nationals. Lindsey addding Chase Ernst will be a cancer, it he hasn't bailed yet like he is know to do.

CHA MN 40% to 60% Affton MN-Young Affton coaching staff did a good job last year taking the team to National Championship game. Affton coach close with Behan which helps these kids prepare for juniors.

Overall, Affton will be the better place to go. Winning tradition and moving players on, that is what is important.

What about their goalies, you need a couple of strong netminders to win the tough games. Who has the edge here?

Best goalie might be at Twin Bridges MM CSDHL. Heard they have already signed ex AAA'er...

B Right was at at Affton Major and Minor preskates as was Gorsuch. Sandler was not there, but should be at the tryouts for Affton is what I heard.

Thought he was playing for Victory Honda? Did that fall through?

If the numbers of skaters are any indication, it looks like Affton has the edge...I think there were 65-70 kids at the minor preskates & 11 goalies...not near that many at the CF tryouts. I guess tryouts officially begin for both this weekend.

These are all just pre-skates like every year for the $$$. Yeah some kids will be identified, but the final tryouts are in August.

how many kids are typically taken for tryouts in august?

most will be asked back if there is a tryout fee to be paid beyond the preskate fee

Lyndsey last it last year. Let one of his best players walk to Affton and half the time couldn't remember who he had on the team. Titus got fed up and said see you later.

Truth is he hasn't had it for awhile Titus coached them to the Championship not Lindsey

how come affton is picking there cs teams with the current try-outs, twin bridges will pick at their upcoming try-out, but chesterfield has what is called try-outs now and if selected you come back for more "try-outs" in aug. are they that hard up for money that they have to scam twice for a "try-out"?

there is only one fee

9:07 maybe they don't want to pick someone and that player leavs for Affton and they end up with egg on their face so they just have another one later and find out who is actually left? Don't really know that is just a guess.

Affton does not pick their Midget teams until August after Jr. Blues make their cuts.

c-field majors is b/c Lindsey can't make up his mind

9:15- you are wrong, Cfield charges you again in August.

RIPOFF

when is affton going to post the list of who is invited back in august?

looks like from the Affton list posted today, not too many were really cut from the pre-skates

what good does it do to invite 50-60 kids to come back, looks like they only cut about 15-20 kids & there are some kids on the list that weren't even there & aren't even interested in central states because of the cost & time involved

Affton is going to have a team of 94s and a few 93s that will play a moam shedule of a couple tournents and practice games with some out of town teams. They are offering an alternative to the kids who get cut from cs.

Yeah, that would be the regular MOAM Midget AA team, I think they have that every season

that team sounds like something many players would be interested in....is it a for sure thing, or are they still working on the details? Affton had two AA teams at midget minor last year, was one of them this kind of team or will this be the first time they are trying this?

given the economy right now, from the organizations standpoint, it would be a good idea to keep as many of those kids at your club, so making a spot for them is a great idea

Affton has always tried to find a spot to keep kids playing if they have enough interest. A few years back, they even had a Midget A1 team that played in the now defunct Thompson C league. It's not about the money, Affton is "Not for Profit" it is about keeping kids playing. I get tired of hearing all the CS bashing and how they only care about CS, blah, blah, blah, Affton cares about EVERY kid who wants to play.

You are kidding right?

Boy, you sure have to be patient to be a midget. It looks like a numbers game with so many.

Is this delayed because of Junior A tryouts or is that a coincidence?

JR A then JR B then AAA then CS then AA and so on

I just heard an ad on 1380 (helmkamp) for Twin Bridges Lightning Midget CSDHL tryouts.

and...

They might get more kids trying out if they also run a cheerleading program with girls from Sauget for the games.

Thats a riot, according to the CSDHL web site, the last time TB had a CS team they beat Affton quite a bit. Just remember there is another option for kids out there now. I would be a little nervous if I were Affton.

I think it would be good for TB to have a Central States program. There are a lot of kids that live in Illinois and having another option is a good thing for ALL of St. Louis. A lot of time and money spent commuting, and having an option closer would be a nice thing. I don't think it would necessarily hurt any program, but maybe help CSDHL.

get Dan Herr to run it and it would be a Huge success.

Agreed, Dan is a superb coach, wish he was still with TB.

I know some will disagree but he's the best non AAA coach and better than most of them

Does Affton charge a tryout fee again in August for the CS Midgets? I just saw the email from Chesterfield & they charge again to finish the tryouts

They said the June fee covers the August fee

That Chesterfield email is ridiculous. Everyone already paid $75 for the first three skates and now they are charging $99 for the next three skates. We just made our minds up where we are playing this season.

Affton Developmental team?

Dude it is tier II midget hockey. Take a chill pill.

The reason C-field does that is to not charge the kids that get cut the first round even if they are minimal it's not fair to them.

Chesterfield charging again for Midget CS tryouts, when we have already paid a month & a half ago is ridiculous, what a money grab

Affton doesn't charge the kids a second time

I don't really care if the fee covers AA, A....if you don't make CS, if he doesn't make CS, he won't be playing there for sure

cha says tryouts are open for cs, but in their earlier tryout some were "invited" back and some weren't. what's the deal?

Good question, I wonder if the kids who previously cut & not invited back can register again & try out

For some reason, I think that everyone was invited back....could be wrong about that though

I also noticed that Affton's CS tryouts have some conflicts with Chesterfield's - so kids will have to make a choice of which to attend

If you were cut back in June why would you tryout again?

I know this is last year but c-field had their first try outs cut some kids and invited others to 2nd camp. Then some kids became available that didn't make JR B that didn't tryout for C-field originally so they invited them to tryout at the second tryout.

So how did tryouts go at affton tonite?

bad!

I don't know about the 2nd group, but the 1st group did not look good. A lot of individual play, out of position, some cheap shots

That being said, there are a lot of good players out there and the competition is tough at least for the forwards, not as many defensemen, so odds are better for them

Does anyone have any input from the 2nd group?

You can tell by the list of names the first group was the better of the two groups. That was going to be as good as it gets.

half the kids that will end up on the team were not even at the tryouts. you cant tell how good a team is going to be from tryouts

where are these kids coming from (that will make the team that haven't been at tryouts)?

why have tryouts? money maker?

They kids are too busy farming right now to try out

does anyone have any insight about cf or tb central states - how are their teams going to stack up against affton...do either of them have a chance to be competitive in the league?

anyone have info on the cf or tb coaches that would be helpful to kids that might be trying out for those teams?

Central States as a whole is weaker this year becuase of the introduction of the Midget Minor Selects team. There will be kids on the Affton team that would have had no chance to make the team in previous years. Affton is clearly going to have their pick of the litter, but there is not as much of a gap between the top players this year as would be the case in years past. There will be much more parity between all three clubs this year. Affton should win the battle of the local clubs but they will have to battle for those wins.

What about the 3 CS coaches - anyone know anything about CF & TB - I think the Affton coach has been there for a while, but I believe CF & TB are new CS coaches

If a player had the option to play for CF or TB & the commute wasn't an issue, which is the better option?

I am not familiar with the CF coach. The TB coach is a very good coach. He will get the kids a ton of ice and really develop them individually and as a team. His teams have consistently done well and in many cases overachieved.

Flaugher's team would beat Zook's, I'd bet on it. He'll have far better gaoltending and he's a better coach.

So says the parent of a goalie that got cut.

There will be plenty of quality players cut from Affton.

8;13 from yesterday. Does Zook equal Zuke?

Last poster, "quality" has a pretty subjective meaning.

Select goalies are good but not in same league as the two 94 AAA kids

If the two 94AAA goalies are that good, then you must be asking yourself why would both of the AAA teams in this area take a pass on them. Do they just hate tennis legends in their own mind?

Are the select rosters posted anywhere?

the Selects picked their team team before AAA so only one AAA team passed on the 94 goalies, both would have made the Select minor team

Hey 9:36......if the 94 goalies were at the Selects camp and didn't get picked, then they tried out for Blues AAA and got cut, doesn't that make 2 cuts? The Selects camp is their tryouts.

Good point last poster. Is it possible that the kids were at the camp and were asked to play selects and said no thinking they were going to make the AAA blues? I know some did say no to cavallini's when asked. Not saying that happened here but now that it has happened.

If everybody who claims to have received an offer from the Selects and turned them down actually did receive an offer then Selects must have intended to field several minor teams.

neither 94 goalies were at Selects minor tryouts and there were tryouts and both of these kids are better goalies than what Zuke took

Chfld and Affton Mm tryouts are both tonite. Kind of odd!

I do not think there were a ton of kids that said no to the cavallinis.There were a few.

Heard CF MM landed 5 players from the Blues AAA mm team from
last year, any truth?

true that

Well I'll be damn, heard a very few from that team also playing for Behan.

It looks like the CF MM team is posted by numbers any names to go with those numbers?

Midget Major Tryouts
Thanks to all of the players that attended the Affton Midget Major CS tryouts. Below are the players that were selected to play on the 2009-2010 team.

Baltzell
Booker
Bowder
Bunjan
Craig
Ferrell
Gannon
Gray
Krogman
Leslie
Milford
Mueth
Ryan
Shasserre
Siegel
Sullivan
Ullrich
Webb
Wingerter

Below is the list of players invited back to the Midget Minor tryout on Monday, August 17th, 7:50 pm to 10:00 pm at Affton. We would like to thank all who tried out. If you are not selected for the next tryout, I strongly encourage you to tryout for the Affton Midget Development team coached by Sean Hazelton. The Development team will play a 40-45 game schedule consisting of league and tournament play. Their first tryout is Friday August 21st, 8:00 pm. See the add on the website for further details.

Thanks,
Chris Flaugher
Affton Midget Minor CSDHL

Click on the Read More link to view the list of players.

Ball Alec
Barile Ted
Blase Nick
Chestnas Kurt
Coleman Tim
Croghan Tom
Edwards Nick
Ferrell Killian
Fleming Tommy
Franklin Thomas
Gorsuch Trever
Gans, Michael
Gregory Kevin
Grillo John
Heinzman Tommy
Jablin Trace
Jarvis Andrew
Kaufman Jacob
Kesterson Patrick
Krapf Tyler
Leslie Shawn
Leslie Scott
Lordo, Stephen
Lucas Hunt
Lulow Trent
Maiocco Joey
McGlynn Kerry
Nanna Alex
Nuelle Josh
Oliver Clay
Olsen Kenny
Overkamp AJ
Ragland Justin
Roberts Brendan
Robinson Cody
Roeder Justin
Sandler Ryne
Stovall Parker
Turin Alex
Unterberg Adam
Warnecke Daniel

don't know if the roster is set yet but it's nice to see TB coach keeping his little girl around for all the extra ice time.

No doubt posted by the proud parent of a slow bender of a defensemen that could not break the puck out on a Pee Wee team. Unfortunately for you gender is not one of the criteria they use in evaluating players.

yeah, but talent is!

has anyone played for Chris Flaugher before....I thought he said that he would let the boys know today sometime (08/18) and the Affton website says the roster will be posted by Wednesday evening (08/19)

does he make personal phone calls to the players he has selected before posting the roster or do you just find out from the post?

just curious how he does things

He will call and make sure the players are accepting his offer so Affton does not end up with egg on their face. Delay in posting may also be related to desire to talk to players that have been cut about playing for the development team. By not posting it is harder for the Chesterfield and Twin Bridges folks to determine who might be available.

Yes, it not only makes it tough on the CF & TB coaches, but also on the players - because they cannot make a decision until they know all of the options. & you hate to burn any bridges with coaches from other organizations because you never know when you might find yourself trying out for them again.

They have to wait to make sure Jack's roster is finalized which then funnels down to Hazelton's. Once both of those teams have been set, then flauger will post his roster because he will then know the numbers. He's not trying to screw over TB or CHA coaches. His first practice is Thursday afternoon so he will probably have it out soon enough.

Of course and he has seen these same kids for weeks but according to the website will not post the roster until Wednesday evening. I am sure that has nothing to do with the Affton Development team trying to get a head start on recruiting the kids that get cut.

Affton may want to take a hard look at their procedure. If either Chesterfield or Twin Bridges close the gap on putting a quality package out for CSDHL, Affton will not be able to hold kids while they go through all their tryouts.

From the Affton website

Midget Minor August Tryout Camp

The 2009-2010 Affton Midget Minor CSDHL roster will be posted by Wed evening. Please check back for the roster. We would again like to thank everyone for trying out.

It will be posted by Wed, not on Wed. That can be anytime from now until Wed.

Wait and see when it gets posted. It will be after the Development team has had a chance to call everyone they want to try and recruit.

has anyone that was trying out for Affton CS Mid Minor heard anything tonight? Heard kids were being contacted by email - that can't be true can it?

my son was called late this afternoon bot an email to tell him he made the team

I imagine everyone that made the team has been contacted tonight?

Midget Minor Team News

Congratulations to the following players for being selected to the 2009-2010 Affton Midget Minor CSDHL hockey team. The first practice will be this Thursday, August 20th, 5:15 pm at Fenton. Please be at the rink by 4:00 pm for equipment fitting. There will be a parents meeting following the practice. Please have at least one parent per family present at the meeting. The dryland for August 19th has been cancelled. Check the schedule page for the upcoming drylands and practices.

Also, forwards and defensemen must wear a red helmet. If you do not have a red helmet, get one ASAP. If you have any questions, contact Chris Flaugher at Afftonmidgetminorcs@yahoo.com This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it



Blase, Nick

Chestnas, Kurt

Edwards, Nick

Fleming, Tom

Gans, Michael

Gregory, Kevin

Jablin, Trace

Leslie, Scott

Leslie, Shawn

Lordo, Stephen

Maiocco, Joey

McGlynn, Kerry

Oliver, Clay

Olsen, Kenny

Ragland, Justin

Roberts, Brendan

Roeder, Justin

Sandler, Ryne

Turin, Alex

Warnecke, Dan



The coaching staff would like to thank everyone for participating in this year's tryouts. If you were not selected, we encourage you to tryout for the Affton Midget Development hockey team coached by Sean Hazelton.

Thanks,
Chris Flaugher
Affton Midget Minor CSDHL

bullshit the only reason some of the kids are on there is cause of AAA

looks like 5 aaa kids from last year's team

big deal

Only 1 of the 94 AAA goalies makes the Affton minor????

Time to get out the camcorder.....

Other one to Chesterfield MMajor.

would be great if the Affton minors and the Select minors would play some games this season

and AAA as well

good luck he won't play anybody local

team is not looking good at all..not for central states atleast.

A classless comment from someone who either had a son cut or did not watch a single evaluation. Let the teams (all of them) play a few games before you start trashing the kids. Then you can be a big man and name names and initials of teen age boys who are making mistakes.

Exactly. What a stupid ass thing to say one day after the team is posted. At least 4, if not more, of those boys could be/should be on the 16AAA team and were among the last ones cut by Bily. Several more played AAA last season. Some of the others were on this same team last year. If you add that up, that is a bit more than the usual CS teams have and they should be very competitive.

They are the U16 AAA team

looks like a spot might have opened up on affton cs midget minor, a player that was orignally on the list is no longer

did he go to chesterfield?

that's the word out there, but don't know for sure until they practice tomorrow night

Majors look to be good!

Did the tennis legend's son get cut from Affton or leave voluntarily to go to Chesterfield? I think he was at the tryouts. Just curious.

this team will have a good season..hopefully they all get along with each other.

Yep Affton cut him

he's playing Majors at Chesterfield, should be playing AAA

Heard Affton cut him for the Barile boy, but he snubed Affton and didn't show up for the last tryout. Guess he is going to play in the Vally and practice with Bil so he can get free stuff from the Blues.

Well if he does practice with Bil, please let camcorder guy so he can do some taping of that. Because practicing with a team other than your own once the season has started and before nationals are over is a very serious offense.

Does anyone know the rosters or where they are posted for?

MM and mm Selects
MM and mm Chesterfield Central States

CF Midget Minor still has one more ice time tonight

I know they have made offers to a bunch of kids & many have accepted, but I don't know who they all are

The Midget Major finished their tryouts already, so you would think they would have a list up by now

minors already have all there forwards picked

2009-2010 Midget Major CS Results

Congratulations to the following players who have been selected to our 2009-2010 Midget Major CS team:

ANSON, M.
CLARK, D.
COLUMBATTO, D.
DEVERS, B.
FERNSLER, M.
FRASER, C.
GORNET, Z.
GORSUCH, T.
HULSEY, G.
LAMB, S.
MOSLEY, I.
OTTEN, A.
PAPAS, A.
PHILBIN, K.
STOUT, J.
THURBY, J.
TIERNEY, A.
TOWNSEND, M.
WETTERROTH, A.
WYND, J.

scrubs

I love that show. The jerk doctor who does the miller light commercials is my favorite character.

Any names for the TBL CSDHL teams?

Lightning

rumor is Affton CS Mid Min lost another player they had originally named?? any truth to that?

tb cs will be about as tough as st.p was.

shame on you!

Remember your history before you make those comments.

the shame was CS allowing st.p to have teams.

no the shame is on CS for letting TBL back in the league

You must be from Asston

Twin Bridges Central States Midget Majors 6 - 1 over U16 AAA. Can you believe it?

Actually, I think twin bridges won 4-1, but still a big surprise of a score to me.

TB MM CS has an outstanding goaltender who could play AAA. Heard U16's out shot them.

Thats because he already played AAA

That kid is a very good goalie. I could not help but notice that the mm blues played the MM Twin Bridges team twice last year and won (Blues) 8-2 both times. What a difference a year makes.

The question is did one get better or did the other get worse? Only time will tell.

AAA had two more shots than TB. It was a very even game.

u16AAA is going to have a long year

Now you hit the point 8.44

TB CS has nice team and nice coach in Jarros, but the U16 AAA's will struggle to play .600 hockey.
Talent and coaching just not there for what they are going to play in Detroit.

Jarros is the reason TB got kicked out in the first place, why would he be a nice coach, and why would TB let him be the coach for them

Thanks for the info. MOM

suck on mom

Ya you guys must be real good at hockey

how come TB doesn't post their rosters at MM or mm? did mm coach take his little girl and now embarassed?

MM is posted.

Coach with "little girl" is one hell of a coach, if your "son" has to play his team I would be concerned.

yeah right. what's his resume, moam coach?

If you play TB minor you beter beware of the wraith of the the rach.
She's coming for you.

Hmmmm, a midget minor coach who is a good coach with a wife who likes to spew her wrath on people? Interesting.

as expected, daddy took his little baby. that ought to be comical to see when the season starts.

I'm sure she's the 15th player on the team and if your upset that your little johnny didn't make it b/c of that then just think he'll be #1 on the next team down. and that's all you want isn't it for him to get all the glory as to why this team is sooooo etc etc etc.

The little girl made it because she was clearly better than the other D trying out for the team. She is a very smart player, takes good angles and makes a decent outlet pass. Obviously she will have to get over a strength and speed hurdle but people have been saying that about her for the last several years and she does just fine.

she is a fine young lady as well.

all that other stuff doesn't matter if you're playing D against 16-17 y/o men. thanks daddy.

looks like somebody can't handle the fact that their little super star got beat out by a girl

As long as hockey has been around kids have got on teams because of their coaching daddy. No big deal.The year before Basil left he was not even shy about admitting that was the case. It has happened since the beginning of hockey and will happen till the end of hockey.

They have also got to the regional camps because of their daddy. Their are kids on other central states teams because of dad. No big deal.

10:00 would you go as far as saying they have even been drafted in the NHL because of their daddy?

9:51, sorry dick, but my kid made the same team and now you have to wonder how much more TB cronyism will take place. also, several other bigger and faster D were cut that shouldn't have been.

it would be refreshing to just once see a team picked solely on true talent and not coaches kids or friends. wishful thinking.

11:23 assholes and opinions - everyone has them!!!

10:11...yes in my opinion it even goes up to that level.

I know for sure kids are playing in the UHL on their daddy alone. But that's ok, even if they get on the team that way they are cut later by the same team. Eventually, talent alone will make or break you eventually. Depending on the power your daddy wields, that is later than others for some people...

11:27 Are you high?

It would be nice is just once a team was picked on talent alone. Life is not fair. Affton and Chesterfield both have kids on some of the CSDHL rosters for the same reasons. Does not make a difference, the kid in every instance will be a last line player and rarely see gametime. Also, if your kid or any was REALLY good, they would have made the top line and would not have to worry about being bumped off the fourth line by coaches kid/relative.

11:23 am. Were you at the TB tryouts? Where were those bigger faster defensemen that you are talking about being cut? Across all the Central States Midget Minor teams this year the D are very thin.

11: 32 in my opinion you are an asshole. 11:48, yes dumbass i was at the tryouts as previously stated, my kid made the team. and there were more deserving defensemen than daddy's girl.

3:46 too bad your "opinion" didn't count when the team was picked

unfortunately whether you like it or don't like it, it's your team. so support her and the other players
Good Luck TB

there are always issues with parent coaches and Weich is no different when it comes to his kids, but he is a solid teacher of the game and he will develop his talent.

yeah.

Doc Dean is from the Dan Herr school Excellent teacher and will always put the team first.

Dan and Dean -excellent combo-







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their nickname is neil and bob.

and yours is Jack Off

waaaah!!!!!!1

Hi, I'm mr. goalie dad from TB. My kid got cut cut from AAA so I will post all season how great my kid is, stay tuned.

I do not know the dude, but I would think he would be happy that his kid is on a team that costs a lot less and is better than the team his kid got cut from.

I think that Chesterfield midget minor is going to win the league at there level.

NOT!

I too think Chesterfield midget minor will win the league. When pigs fly! let me see they played a very close game with Affton a couple weeks ago. I believe that they only lost by 6 or 7 goals. A couple pucks bouncing the right way and that game could have been only a 4 goal victory for Affton.

nice picks, kearns.

Fairview Heights Icehawks will win the league this season!

that's funny

I have got my money on St. Peters:)

just as funny.

OK, how about Pattonville?

What does Pattonville have to do with CSDHL?

LOL. My thoughts exactly.

Well I know the thread is about csdhl but when it comes to tier II midgets, is it suprising to anyone else how good chesterfield is at the major level at both central states and moam levels?

Pattonville had a lot to do with the success of Chesty MM MOAM and CS.

who say's they are having success?

Are you trying to say Pattonville is looking good for the founders cup?

It's all about Slick Rick at Pattonville.
Just ask him

Isn't one of Pattonville's foreign exchange students on the CS MM team? I heard the Swede got on the team without even trying out but don't know if that is true. Or maybe it was the Finn.

It is early, but those "scrubs" are currently ranked first in the nation at tier II. How does that crow taste?

well hell, let's give them the banner now. it is oct.7 afterall.

I am not giving them shit except the acknowledgement that your categorization of them as scrubs is completely inaccurate. Got that one wrong there Bubba.

i'm sorry your kid is a scrub but don't get too excited after only about a dozen games.

My kid is not on the team. I just pointed it out to help you understand what a dumb shit you are.

sorry scrub-lover.

Ranked #1 in the nation, sounds pretty scrubby.

What happened with Affton this weekend?

Won 2 out of 3.

affton majors went 3 for 3; minors went 2 for 3

The CHA AA midget major team beat the CHA CS midget major team 2-0 last night. When are you guys going to learn that CS and AAA level hockey is overrated. The majority of the best hockey players in the St. Louis area play AA hockey. The reason for this is that the majority (not all) of the best players cannot afford CS and AAA hockey; consequently, they play AA. I give the MM CS team credit for playing the AA team; most teams will not play a lower division team because of the risk of a loss.

Really?????

who in goal?

Don't know who was in goal for either team, but the CS team took the loss with class. The rumor is that the CS coach is looking to take one or more kids from this AA team to play for the CS team. I don't know how he is proposing to do this because I thought his 20 player roster was already full. It also strikes me as wrong; the AA team does not have a full roster -- the AA team should be allowed to take 2 or 3 of the best CS players and put these kids on the AA roster. If the AA team did this, they would be unstoppable at either level.

8:12

That is interesting on the MOAM team beating the the CS team. However, your statement that most of the best players are playing AA hockey at MOAM versus central states and AAA is one of the funniest things I have seen in years. It is very rare for Central States teams to beat age appropriate MOAM teams. Very, very rare.

As a matter of fact, your example is only the second time I can think of it happening. Both times the circustanaces were very unique. Let's visit both instances shall we?

#1-PW AA Rockets in 2005-2006. A team made up an extraordinarily strong group of 92's for the rockets. Several of those kids playing central states, a few playing Jr A now (albiet at different tiers), and they even had some from other associations. The talent on this team was very A-typical for MOAM talent

#2- Chesterfield MM in 2009-2010. The 92 group in general is probably the most talented birth year St. Louis has ever produced. Some would argue the 90's since they did win a national championship. I think the 90's had more high end talent but the 92 is such a deep class. That incredibly deep class is really helping this team compete. Again, this is very atypical.

Besides these two teams, name me a MOAM team that has ever competed with a decent CS or AAA team?

8:50, your assertions are ridiculous. The reason last night's event is, in your words, "very rare" is because the CS teams and certainly AAA teams do not play AA teams very often. But more importantly than that obvious fact, there are way more AA teams than CS teams and "way way more" AA teams than AAA teams; consequently, the AA talent is somewhat spread out among 5 or 6 teams. If we took the best talent from all of the AA teams in the area and made one team out of this talent, the AA team would smoke the CS teams in the area; they would smoke Cavallin's Select team and they would certainly give the U/18 AAA blues a run for their money. This CS team from last night beat the U/16 blues team 3-1 a couple of weeks ago. It is my understanding that the AA had had one practice prior to beating the U/16 team and only 2 practices before beating the CS team last night.

But even with these disadvantages in place at the AA level, I do recall last year's CHA AA midget minor team beating the midget minor CHA CS team at a tournament at the Wentzville rink (Lindenwood). I also recall that a few years ago, the CHA Bantam A1 team beating a AAA blues team once and tying them twice.

If I were you, I would get off of those CS and AAA horses you are riding and begin to realize that those horses are overrated and over priced.

He can't because it never happens with the exception of rare seasons. Each AA MOAM team will lose this season, if they play, to the CS team their age by at least 5 goals. That is what happens. The AA teams usually end up playing the Minor Year CS team beating them badly the first game, much closer to a tie the second game and by the end of the year, the Minor Year CS team beats the AA team. It has happened like that for years and always will.

Why do you think they changed the Regional playoffs this year? People like you were complaining that their AA kids never got a chance because the CS teams always moved on from Missouri. Now they will get a chance to go and lose 10-0.

Is that what happened a couple of years ago when the Bantam AA team played Moorhouse's Bantam Major CS team in a playoff game? The AA team tied the CS team in regulation and almost beat them in overtime with a rifle shot off the crossbar. CS won in a shootout.

And, by the way, why don't you read the preceding post before you post your prattle.

9:30 and 9:53

I thought I was clear but let me spell it out for you AGAIN. The 92 birth year is very, very deep. There have been times when that age group has been competitive at moam and central states. But that 92 birth year is very unique. Any example you mention involves the 92 birth year and your are right, that class is very deep and there is a lot of competition.

Now pick another birth year, any other birth year. Pick a level of competitiveness for ANY OTHER YEAR than 1992. Go ahead and do it.

You assertion that plucking kids off of AA teams to play a cs team is just a random assertion that in your words is just plain ridiculous.

Best class

See- 1985.....

95 has been a good tier II class. Not sure if that is all you are trying to say. If you are trying to say they are good at moam and cs was it last year or the year before that Affton CS beat Twin bridges like 14-0 two games in a row to go to regionals?

10:30, don't get your panties in a knot; you seem to be easily excitable. I agree that the 92s, as a group, are probably better than many of the other birth years, but I don't agree with you that these other birth years have a great group of AAA and CS kids and after that the talent level is way down. Even with these other birth years, if you were to take the best AA kids from all of the other teams in the area and form one team from this group, you would have a AA team that would be better than the CS teams in the area and you would have a team that could compete very well against the same birth year AAA blues team.

I am not easily excitable, just do not understand why you could not get the point the first time.

I just asked you to prove your point historically with any other birth year than the 92's. My kid played MOAM AA for several years and I can tell you at his birth year you are dead wrong. I saw and became very familair with the talent at central states and the AAA blues and moam AA. There is absolutely no way the moam aa "all stars" could compete with the tier I team. Absolutely no way. There are a few-and I mean a very few who could have made it to third of fourth line on tier I MAYBE if they were lucky. But no way could they compete as you say.

im sure your right that the aa team can beat the AAA team. hahaha

Laugh all you want, but the truth is that a 92 bantam A1 team (not an all-star team did just that. Furthermore, had a AA team been formed from the best AA kids in the area, the AA team would have beat the AAA team by 10 goals instead of the 3-0 score it did beat them by. I understand how the rich dads want to get on here and delude themselves into thinking that their littly Johnny-Sh*t-in-the-Pants is a potential star, but the truth of the matter is that he cannot compete against the best AA players in the area.

4:09

What the hell are you talking about? Give me the specifics of the teams, score and when this game happened.

Yeah, now we are going to play the dumb act. Gornet's A1 team beat Moorehouses AAA team 2 years in a row. I will give the aaa blues credit though, because the cha AA team and cha CS team would not play the A1 team that year. This occurred several years ago.

4:09
If what you say is true what f'ing moron coached or picked the AAA team? Was this AAA team from St. Louis?