Are the local teams sharing the talent or is it a down year for the 99AAA team with Affton CS off to a 15-0 start and Chesterfield fielding a competitive team. You go to the real rankings at National Youth Hockey rankings.com and the Affton bunch is a #2 and with the tournament in Chicago just two weeks away all three teams are entered and have a chance to make some noise, Will AAA ever play the Affton team?

Affton needs to get a real coach then we will play them.

Affton CS 15-0? where did that record come from? they lost to Affton AA

My Hockey rankings .com list Affton 99 AA in the Central States league at 15-0. Must have been a practice game because score not recorded under either team list so rules of an official game must not have been followed. But if at 15-0 or at 20-1 still an impressive start. And that is where that record of Affton's can be found to answer your question.

Actually no, I am a person who puts in the scores for myhockeyrankings.com

I emailed the hockey rankings guy and told him I was willing to put in the scores for a particular age group, not this one. So if I choose to not put a score in because for example it makes "my team" look bad, I can not put the score in. Or maybe whoever puts in the score is not aware that a game was played between the two teams. But saying that some "rules were not abided by" is completely pulling something out of thin air.

Down year for 99 AAA no question. They could really use BW and SP from the Affton CS team.

Affton CS is 15 and 0. Game v. other Affton team was scrimmage. Coach TW was on CS bench twice during scrimmage.

Affton CS is a great group of kids, no need to bash them! Lets hope they are #1 in the country soon.

Down year for 99AAA? In contrast to the 99AAA team from last year? Aaaahhhh this is their first year at AAA. Right?

When did we lose focus on developing 10 year kids while they have fun and become more about the parent's egos? I don't care where my kids play as long as they are having a good time and there is no bickering among the parents. Who was it that said the best group of kids to coach is one of orphans?

My guess is if Afton was a Tier I team the 99AAA would play them all day long.

We will see next year. Affton will be a Tier 1 AAA team.

In Chicago, Afton and Chesterfield CS entered as AAA but 99AAA are playing Elite AAA division


One team is Tier I hockey = ELITE AAA division

Two teams are Tier II hockey = AAA division

Good luck to all St. Louis teams

When does my 10 year old get to play sidney crosby? I think he is better? He doesn't want to be a kid anymore and play with his friends as he is all about making his dad feel good about his shattered dreams at house level hockey years ago. Soon they will start a AAAA level for my son because he continues to get soooo good. Maybe he will be his own team and play himself and I can spend the whole day on N54 admiring him as I comment about him all day long. Get a life people they are still 10 I think?

I dont have a life or I wouldnt be on here, stop telling me what to do!

I know there is talk every year about every team not having the best talents. I would anticipate on a year to year basis that at this age more than any. Not every family is willing to make the financial and time (probably the bigger factor) commitment for 9-10yr olds. I wonder how many kids get burned out from the time commitment at this young age?

10:35- no scrimmage with refs on the ice and game time added back to the clock. Nice try!!!

Just to set the record straight...Affton CS is undefeated in the games they didn't lose. Check MYHOCKEY if you don't believe it!

Check CSDHL website Jan 31 2010 for reg season results...

Or check the new my- hockey rankings come wednesday

What does it mean if you are only reporting the wins and not the losses?

Chesterfield at Affton Saturday Fenton 2:00pm. Any thoughts or predictions? My two cents worth. Chesterfield has a better coach, tougher schedule to date, and one Gary Brown with the ultimate motivation. REVENGE! All adds up to a Falcon win and momentum to win the squirt division. The AAA boys are behind a Chesterfield victory.

The Mouth of the South is silenced by a skilled and better coached Chesterfield team. That's my prediction. See ya all Saturday.

Tougher schedule to date? How so?

Chesty in a no lose situation. Even if they lose the game they have the excuse that they are mostly 2000's. Fact is they would be in a tight battle with a few other teams for 4th best Squirt AA team in St. Louis. Affton CS likely will win by 5 or more this weekend.

Who is Gary Brown?

Seeing that they won't play any practice games with other teams no one knows what they can do, not that anyone really cares what they can do.

The Gary Brown revenge factor. What a motivating battle cry for those 9 year olds.

How can 9-10 year old kids be out for revenge in a hockey game?

Don't peg just Gary, you gotta add Moe and Curly

Mc Griddle wont lose this game. You underestimate his coaching. Hes got three or four horses and KM in the pipes. All will be used accordingly for this Halloween horror show.

Isn't it 1 horse and a couple of ponies

This game won't even be close, CHA is way too young and small. They have the goalie that was cut from Affton and is not nearly as good as the 2 they took.

News flash AAA is not watching this game.

Come on guys, this is too harsh. Chesty CS did win the A/AA tournament in Texas. I know the competition wasn't that tough, but they did smoke an A1 team 18-1.

What about an update on the MCSI?

i think it was an A-2 team

Chesty doesn't stand a chance against the big A

And the score was...???

6-0 Affton

Lucky to not be more

Wow this thread got really quiet.

Affton had six different kids score the 6 goals and pitched a shutout defensively. Not much more to say. It is what it is....

11shots 2 shut outs by km and mg in last 2games.Wow now that's a great team and coach

It seems as if u we well represented yesterday for not watching

After the clinic on Saturday by the one they call McGriddle and Affton, I thought it was time to compare the Affton CS and AAA Blues squirt teams since we have seen both.

Goaltending The big difference between the two is between the pipes, but Affton keepers have improved.

Defense Slight edge to AAA because Affton Cougar pair jumped on McGriddle, but the Affton defense does see the ice better, and could be better as a unit.

Forwards Big dog on Affton and they move the puck better than some PeeWee teams. Edge Affton.

Intangibles Coaching for sure after the pounding Saturday but in a head to head match goaltending probably the difference in a close call. Would like to see it after the atmosphere Saturday at Fenton, with spectatotrs three deep around glass and beer sales high. Hopefully Chase comes through and gives Affton a shot.

I am sure the affton goalies would disagree and welcome the challenge. 4 goals in the last 5 games. How is that vs AAA. if that is the weak link between the two clubs I would not underestimate the talent on their end. 4-2 affton

Is Affton CS squirts in Bauer Invite this week in Chicago and how will they do? Someone informed me that last year McGriddle at PeeWee came within an overtime loss in making finals. Do they have the talent at squirts to advance? New to this and I would like a true answer.

You can't be too new if you know who McGriddle is....

Chesterfield I am informed has sent an SOS out to J Brown and Big Al. They need their help again with Mo Hockey to get McGriddle suspended again. Another good team under the masters thumb.

mcGriddle does not need any help getting suspended. Putting together an all star team durning the winter months while kids are on other teams. McGriddle has no one to blame but himself.

No one contacted us this winter and we r doing great. U all can try to knock him down but will never knock him out. M griddle, mcgriddle he's our man if he can't do it....... No one from cha can.. U just wish u had the master on ur side

we have seen both?

What games of AAA have you seen?

TI, Chesty CS squirt and PeeWee. Not much else to see. Light schedule so far. Affton is always available.

AAA sucks

So if they want to continue with the light schedule play Afton?

Baron is the name missing from this thread. He GOT out coached, lots of talent on the CHA team. Wants to hear from no one associated with CHA team - his way or the highway.

Out coached?? Please. He is working with nearly all 2000's while Affton has all 1999's, including the most talented 1999 in the area. Not sure why Chesty chose all the 2000's but is what it is. Difference between 9 and 10 year olds is HUGE. We are not talking about 17 and 18 year olds here.

6-0 shutout is not a matter of being out-coached, it is a matter of the boys being out-played.

Why so many 2000s on team? They tried out just like the 99s, and apparently were better than the 99s available, or they wouldn't have made the team. The evaluators and coach knew they selected eleven 2000s to the roster. Don't write off the loss because over half the roster are 2000s. Once again, if age was such an important factor in winning, why were so many 2000s selected?

Because that's next year's AAA team, that's why. Oh wait, that can't be it because CHA and AAA aren't affiliated are they! (wink, wink - nod, nod). The reality is that several 99s were cut who could have helped that team but adding more 99s wasn't in the master plan. The 99s didn't follow the CS path last year and now you're seeing the results. AAA wasn't about to let that happen again at 2000....

"CHA and AAA aren't affiliated are they! (wink, wink - nod, nod)."

That is an outlandish accusation - next thing you know somebody is going to accuse the AAA coaches of recruiting for CHA central states. It would never happen I say!

Bottom line, let's bring back 3 winning records from Chicago and show the north how to really play hockey....St.Louis style. Good luck to all teams from the Lou ESP the 99's

The 2000s at CHA CS are next year's AAA team??? This has already been determined? Who is coaching the AAA 2000s next season? I can think of seven 2000/2001s at Affton alone that can compete with any of the CHA 2000s for AAA next year. STP has a number of talented 2000s as does the Stars. Not sure where you get your info, but you may not want to assume little Jimmy is a lock at AAA next season.

boy oh boy does 9:54 really not know how it works

Did I hear that that the Affton CS board approved playing at Tier 1 AAA next year? Is this at only certain birth years or across the playing field? How is are the powers in the Valley going to view this? Does Affton really have a say in the matter?

Before the red pen idiots get on my response, here is the corrected version - Did I hear that the Affton CS board approved playing at Tier 1 AAA next year? Is this only at certain birth years or across the playing field? How are the powers in the Valley going to view this? Does Affton really have a say in the matter?

Yes indeed the credit goes to the Affton team for the impressive win Saturday. But will all the heat the Affton coach takes on this message board, the trash talk towards him from the AAA parents and CS parents(I am at the rink 5 days a week and always hear his name being brought up in conversation) the Affton parents should be able to support their coach with some mention and kind words. Our Chesterfield team is a young group but Affton just plain whipped us. Plain and simple. Move on people. Let's get ready for Chicago. It's over.

How many times must this be said? A club that has a tier II team can NOT have a tier I team. Some of you simpletons believe that the tier I Blues are part of chesterfield because their home rink is the hardees plex but not so.

Affton will not have a tier I and tier II league affiliation.

Compuware does........

So do the Dallas Ice Jets, SSM and many other teams. What is your point? Oh I guess your point is that I dont know what I am talking about.

It is in the MOAM rules that a club can not have tier I and tier II. If they choose to have a tier I team that is an affton team they will lose their ability to play in moam and everyone of their teams will be kicked out of moam. They will not do that.

IF they do anything they will form an independent team or teams like cavallini did a few years ago. Remember the "St. Louis Americans". Skated out of the affton rink but was a seperate team from the affton teams with seperate leadership and management. Affton could do that but again would have to be seperate from their affton teams unless they wanted all 35 or so of their moam teams to be booted out of the league for a few AAA teams.

MOAM did put in the rule to protect the AAA orginization. Yes you are right. But a new AAA team will be formed away from the AA organization ending Affton's association with the Central States league. The new teams will skate in the Central States league (see Madison AAA and their association with Central States)and Croghan, Hazelton, McGlynn and company will have St. Louis' new AAA team's loosely based in house. No, they are not trying to compete with the Blues. But they will bring AAA hockey to others without the drive, expense, and Blues alumni influence. A hockey for all attitude with the winning tradition of Affton hockey and we don't mind playing second fiddle mentality.

Dude, you are confusing the hell out of me. You say the new team will be formed away from the AA organization but will play in central states league. Central states is AA so you really have me confused.

Please tell me about the association Madison has with Central States? I would like to educated on that as Madison plays in the league out of detroit.

SO is what you are saying is that an independent team is going to be run out of the affton rink like Cavallinis team a few years ago? Will they be independent or play in a league like central states?

Madison did the same thing a couple years ago, they played CS and AAA but were just not able to win CS I believe. They did that for a couple year and finally decided to drop the CS spot and got in that league.

You know Madison did do that for a while.

If memory serves some of the madison teams just stop showing up for games mid year.

Help me understand this affton guy and I am being dead serious.

If you are going to stay in the same league, with the same coaching, with the same ice time, the same league game schedule etc

WHY the hell would change the team to a tier I team?

So Chase would play me this year.

Well the joke is on you, the blues and st louis selects are both tier I and guess how many times they have played?


Zero.

I'm going with AAA over CS. Strickland really has those AAA boys playing hard.

It is kind of sad that there is so much chatter over AAA beating CS. Aren't they suposed to anyway I mean come on they are the all powerful AAA. Sounds to me that Cs has AAA thinking twice. Why else would the topic be so talked about. Just play each other and get it over with.

A couple of quick corrections to the idiot pundits who do not have a clue.

1) The Selects run by the Flying Cavallini Brothers is NOT a Tier I team nor organization. They play in AAA tournaments and practice games with other Tier I teams but are classified as a Rec team here in MO Hockey land. Big whoop.

2) Rules can be changed by the MO Hockey Youth Division Board at any time with a Majority of the voting members present voting in favor of any rule change. If somebody wants to field a Tier I team and can get 6 or 7 others to see the merit it can happen tomorrow.

Some of you people should get on the internet and read the rules some time.

Last guy was right. Rules can be changed if almost everyone agrees. Which I am sure they will agree. I mean they already allow open districts for two city wide teams at every age level from squirt up. There has got to be a need for another city wide all star team. It is already hugely an unfair advantage for chesterfield and affton to draw the other clubs best players so why not let it happen even more. <-------sarcasm...

Despite what some of you think, the current system is working well. There is not going to be another AAA team. Maybe affton throws out a rec team like the cavallini's and they play tier I competition. That is it, there is only tier I organization...just deal with it.

Clubs would welcome the chance to vote Affton into tier I. This would enhance all MOAM teams' chances to go to tier II Nationals in 3 ways - 1. Take Affton CS out of the mix for tier 2, 2. weaken further the Chesty CS teams as even more talent chooses Affton because of the opportunity to play tier I hockey and 3. Likely eliminate the Selects as demand for additional tier I hockey is filled by a traditional club. The move would likely lessen the effect of talent jumping from non CS clubs - elimination of the selects would mean only 3 teams picking off the best local talent - currently there are certain birth years where 4 teams (Blues, Affton CS, Chesty CS, and Selects) grabbing kids without regard to districting.

Affton CS 2 Dallas stars AAA elite 2. Hummmmm

1-5-1

Dallas ranked #22 St.Louis AAA Blues 17. Affton 2 Dallas 2. Oh my! How the two teams may be of equal skill,talent etc., etc., But the boys out west do not have clue!

And 2 of Affton better players not even there. Just think what could have happened had they been there!

I guess Affton still needs to work on their goal tending to be considered a "Contenda..."

Overheard: AAA dad telling Affton CS dad that "the Americans wouldn't ever score on the Blues". Technically, that is a true statement. Teams must actually play for any scoring to occur....

Q: Is paying an extra $10K worth having your kids wear the note? Beyond that, can't tell much difference in the product, except that it's PBR instead of caviar in the dad corner along the glass.... I guess that baluga can get expensive though!

Cheerio!!!

P.S. - our "doc" kicks your "docs" ass.

Just ask Wolff.....

8:03-I am sure that was with a wink wink?

Affton wins 8-2 but got outshot 22-13. Mcgriddle seen supersizing on the bench the #16 value meal.

what is a tuck in?

My guess....

Tuck in = what you see when you look down in the shower....

Outshot again 22-17. Affton wins in double ot. Someone stop this crazy general. So much for a guy who can't coach. 22-0-1. The all mighty Mc griddle was once again seen supersizing his #16 supervalue meal and man did it look good. Ugg ugg wink wink

Ironic???

Thought it was interesting that the winning goal for Affton in the 2nd OT was scored by the kid AAA couldn't get and setup by the kid AAA didn't want.....

Viva Americans!!!!

....and who in the he'll does McGlynn think he is having 2 defensemen on the ice throughout the 4 on 4 AND the 3 on 3 overtime periods? Doesn't he follow AAA protocol and instruct his D to never skate the puck past the top of their circle? We can't possibly have offensive defensemen now can we?

Who'd a thunk it?

Viva La General!!!!

correction.....22-1-1
BTW those guys in black and white stripes are called refs

As someone who is on the outside with no axe to grind either way, it looks like both teams are doing well.

Number one on the thoughts is make sure your kids are having a good time. Many of these kids will not be playing central states or AAA at bantams. The kids are 10 and under and at that age the best players are the ones who have been skating the longest. But as the kids age some will develop much faster and kids who are now the best will not be in a few years.

Even as good as the 96 AAA blues are they get three or four new players a year.

Just make sure they are having fun because if you think where they are playing now has any significant correlation on where they will be playing when they are bantams and midgets, you are naive.

Both teams are doing well. And I have a news flash you, if the blues want a great player or two when they are older, they will get them. They always do.

Don't be so sure when it comes to AAA at the 99 level. Normally I would agree with you but the 99 birth year may be an exception. Plenty of grumbling from 99 AAA parents for what they are getting for the extra $7K. Affton has almost as many games against AAA teams this year as the blues do. If Affton goes AAA next year, all bets are off.

What is really sad is that the AAA team is now telling other AAA teams that are coming into STL that they are NOT to play Affton while in town. This was confirmed from Milwaukee and Team Illinois parents here at the Bauer. So much for AAA being about development. If the roster is going to turn over like you say it will by the time they are Bantams - and they will - wouldn't it be in the best interest of hockey in St. Louis to share the live a bit? Sounds like AAA is nervous - at least at 99.

Bottom line - if anyone at AAA is in fact telling the visiting AAA teams to take a pass on playing Affton, they should be
ashamed of themselves. Surely the NHLrs would be behind something like that. Would they?

Well there is a head coach of the 96 AAA Blues who at one time was the coach of the 92 AAA Blues when his older son played on it. Their was an independent team called the Jr. River Otters coached by Don Moorehouse which also was a 92 team. Well the first year of their existance the Jr River Otters played in the same league as the blues. The next year the Jr. Otters were forming for another season and that 96 coach (who has a statue of him at Scotttrade) who at the time was the 92 coach went to the Leagues board of directors and asked them to not let the Jr. Otters in the league. The leagues board of directors complied with the NHL Hall of Famer and the Jr. Otters were disbanded.

But for disclosure purposes, you might want to ask Hazelton about how he ordered his coaches to not play the Puck Pirates which were an upstart independent team. The affton coach at the time was reprimanded for playing them and later the chesterfield bunch cancelled a game.

So you see my friend, this hockey thing aint about everybody wanting to develop the st louis hockey scene. It is about everyone (Affton, CHA and the JR Blues) all being selfish and only caring about themselves and doing whatever politically they can to better themselves.

Yes the Blues were assholes for doing what they did. Just as affton and chesterfield was for doing what they did.

That is the way it works...

please don't lump an entire organization in with a few selfish jerks

What "few selfish jerks" do you think is not representative of the entire organization and the way they have handled things?

I think you are being naive on the way things really work and have worked.

you're right, it's a conspiracy they are all out to get YOU!!!

Nobody is out to get anyone. They are just out to make sure their clubs are in as strong as a position as possible.

I think the point was that the original poster had the " can you believe how big of assholes the AAA blues are being towards Affton? " The bigger point is yes, I can surely believe it and there are dozens of examples that I can think of Affton being assholes to everyone else. Nobody is out to "get me", it is simply a matter of knowing the way it all works.

But if you need to get through the day believing affton is all about "development and bettering the entire st louis hockey community" then you go right ahead and live in that world.

Looks like someone needs to collect the 99 Affton Dad's KEYboards when they get to drinking on the road

Keyboards, don't they all use cell phones and yes they did drink late into Saturday and early Suday unlike some who were home already for hours.... Great job to all Stl teams who represented our area well. Looks like we all had a fun and respectfull weekend. This is all in fun remember, that.

AAA, and CS are just prefixes, nothing beyond that proves a thing unless you play

8 56 - Yes denial ain't just a river in Egypt! Word was that coach not only knew there were refs at the game, he also interacted with them quite aggressively! However, scores from some common opponents since that game seems to indicate it may have been a fluke. When's the rematch?

The Mc Griddler moves Affton squirts to number 1 in the country!!!!

What number would it be if they reported all of the losses?

8:46 Get over it. Scores of games have been reported. Your practice game score is forgotten by all but you. You are on all the sites crying about one game. This team has excelled all season once the regular season started and your constant remarks are noted. Thanks. But get a life. Forget it. It's over. Go away.

Its Hayden boys. Let him ramble.

Congrats to this team being ranked number one in the country. How many of these kids started in the affton association and how many are from other associations?

Affton - 3
Chesterfield - 3
Florida - 1
Meramec -1
Kirkwood - 3
Rockets - 2
Southern IL - 1
Twin Bridges - 3

Interesting and bravo for the team being so diverse.

Next question, when AAA cherry picks the best players off this team just as affton cherry picked the best players from other associations, will Affton cry foul and bitch and complain or will they just realize it is the natural healthy progression.

And no, the answer is they will form their own AAA team is not a realistic option.

What will happen is AAA will cherry pick the best and the next level of players will fill in for those players.

AAA can't cherry pick an entire team and the entire team seems to be a fairly well balanced level of players.

You guys dont have a first offensive line and the top set of defenseman down there?

12 49 is correct...fairly well balanced on the kid from Florida's shoulders!

8 52...so I guess your saying the 2 games against the mighty Meremac sharks were league games? Half your games listed were exhibition games!

How important is the rankings if you don't list all of your games?
Chesterfield also played St Peters to a tie and didn't list that, but certainly put down the win?
Affton CS loses in a legit game to its AA club and doesn't post. Out scored, and out worked, don't look for a rematch, it won't happen now.
Too bad they are not pee wees and had to play for a nationals spot, that would get interesting real quick.

Affton CS did play their AA team again and won. Why would they do another rematch? How many rematches are teams supposed to do?

Squeaked by 2-1. Outworked and outplayed in that game also.

You're right, maybe they should make that team the CS Team instead. Let me see what I can do, idiot!

The first game was legit, AA was never supposed to win, they were underestimated. Real Reffs, Real Time, Real Scoresheet.

Anything that followed this game was a mixed scrimmage with both teams players on either bench or dads on the ice as reffs or no scoresheets or 25 minute periods to "not simulate a real game"

Reality is a game was played, fair and square, or until it didn't go the right way?

1:55

It is a reality

Hayden,its over. Please crawl back in your hole. Or complain again and see what it gets you. All your stupidity will do is force the CS not to play AA teams again this year and in future year's. Plain and simple. The CS group is helping in the development of our kids. Your league doesn't look that strong and obviously the tournament route isn't going to help. No competition out in AA land. That's why most kids play CS and AAA. The challenge of better skaters.

Fairly well balanced = #16 scores 50 to 60% of the teams goals. Some balance! LOL!

#16 lost his grandfather this past weekend, can you cut the kid some slack?

So let me see if I've got this right. The 99 Affton AA team has beat the 99 Affton Central State team and the 99 Central State team can beat the 99 AAA team?

What that tells you is simply parents aren't ready to commit to the higher level which entails substantial cost and time commitment for 10yr olds. Keep it fun for them so they still want to play when they get to Bantams and aren't burned out at being at the rink 5 or more days a week.

Who's at the rink 5 or more days a week??

I think Chewy is for the pitchers of bud light and cheap fried egg sandwiches, but that does not have anything to do with hockey.

For those of u hanging on to a practice game victory. There were refs and u did win but wait for it......u were down 5-4 in regulation time and the game did go on for u to get A Practice Game victory...wait for it.......nevermind it's your highlight of ur hockey career since u were enen a kid. Go ahead and enjoy.
it was ur 1st and last

thanks mom

Just so everyone realize this, the person making all the mcgriddle comments......is actually mcgriddle.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" It was the Wizard of Oz, not McGriddle. He doesn't hide behind a curtain or keyboard. Ask and he will tell.

McGriddle is the biggest self promoter there is. If affton did not recruit players to the org and use CS as a way to do so, then he be just a 500 coach. Look at the orginzation diversty on his teams.......he has done little to "develop" most of them.

I thought they were all Affton kids?

You thought wrong. Here is the break down.

Affton - 3
Chesterfield - 3
Florida - 1
Meramec -1
Kirkwood - 3
Rockets - 2
Southern IL - 1
Twin Bridges - 3

Consider this. The man after our favorite breakfast sandwich hasn't allowed his son to skate with any team he has coached, so how does he know if he develops players. If indeed he is only a .500 coach this would qualify him to coach any Chesterfield CS team or the 99 squirts who have a sparkling record of one game over .500. And little does this hater know about his record away from Affton. Crawl in your hole Hayden.

Here is the bottom line: there is good talent at the 99 and 2000 age groups in St. Louis. Affton CS and Affton SQ AA have good teams, Chesterfield CS and Chesterfield SQ AA are good, and the Blues AAA is a good team.

5 good teams that should play each other at least 3-5 times per season. Great competition in our own backyard, but the adults (parents and coaches) cannot get along. It is a travesty.

Who is this guy Hayden you speak of?......He sounds like someone who gets it.

All great teams agreed.
It will get interesting come next year at the 2000,Blues AAA, Affton AAA?, CS, and the Selects 2000?. If its that many groups, that have been spoken of, it will be really watered down.

Way too many "elite" level teams out there. If CS went away, most of those kids would return to their home associations and play AA, thus making better AA competition in MOAM league and stop all this club consolidation madness. A couple of the really good kids could play AAA and help STL teams be solid top 5 teams in the country year after year. So much for the idea of Chicago or MI teams coming to town for a weekend and playing 4 good games against different clubs.

I'm Guessing the "Selects" experiment for the 2000's is over. STL will get the CHA CS kids in the Spring, and they will all try out for AAA in fall. Affton will keep their kids in Elite in spring and CS and MOAM in fall. Not sure if Cav will drop it though; if not, Selects will be FAR from elite!!

Can't we all just get along?

Oh my! The Jr Blues won't play Affton. It doesn't end there, now they are telling other AAA clubs not to play them when they come to town! This is crazy, Chicken s___s . What r they afraid of, all there is to say is. GO ADMIRALS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical Affton, root for the other teams over st. louis teams. Some class.

There will be a game. Admirals know a trip to the Looo is not complete without a prize fight with the Dominators.

Is there any truth to the rumor that Affton will be holding their 99 tryouts before the 99AAA tryouts next spring?

Hmmmmmmm......

Mo Hockey regulates tryout dates for Tier I and CS. CS cannot just decide to hold their tryouts earlier without approval.

Wonder how that works if Affton is a "AAA" (e.g. rec) team playing in the CS league.....

I dont think MOAM has much of a say if a team is a "rec" team. You can do whatever you want basically like the cavallinis do now. Downside to that is you are not eligible for any playoffs as a representative for the state of missouri. So if affton does choose to have a rec team or teams, will be a tougher sell if parents know they are not eligible for any tier I or tier II playoffs.

And again do we need to be reminded that any club can NOT have a tier I and tier II team. So Afftons only choice is to do to like cavallini is doing it.

99s in a minor year next year.... No nationals anyway.

Stay tuned.