Its nice to be ranked #1 in Tier 2 in the US

Are you a player or a coach? If neither, then your not.

Congrats to the players! That's great!

Thanks for info. T.L.

Don't think it's T.L. Must be someone that works odd shifts...very
early in the morning.

Whoever it is, I say "way to go Tony & JL". Save some ribs for me!

It's great that the team is doing so well. There's a lot of good kids/hockey players on that team. Good goalie helps.

Well all the kids too good for AAA needed a place to play. I really think everyone is happy and good luck to everyone.

Yes, maybe they're happy now that they're ranked number one. I hope so.

Would you rather be a big fish in a little pond or a little fish in a big pond?

Its early and both the AAA and Affton CS are doing well. That is good for both teams and Chesterfield and it should create a place where teams will want to come and play. Congrats to Both Teams. Not bad for a weak birth year.

Thanks 7:42 and 7:46 We will also enjoy the $$$.

the biggest cost for AAA is the travel $s and if both AAA & CS teams are traveling the cost is about the same- maybe $1500 diff on start up cost. at least that is what we have found having played both CS and AAA. AAA may travel a bit more.

Your memory is foggy...they travel more and 1500.00 start up is quite the chunk.

you think an extra 1500 is quite a chunk?- then you probaly shouldnt be playing CS or AAA. We have played a couple of years of each, there wasnt much diff in cost when both teams travel is equivalent.

This team has won against five (six if you count lowly Russell Stover, but they are more a AA team) AAA teams this year. This team still has the best '95 goalie in St. Louis. They may only be AA but they are a AAA caliber team.

If they were playing tier I right now they would be ranked 34th. You are absolutely correct, they could play AAA and be a mid level tier I team. You think the kids would rather be number one at tier II or number 34 at tier II.......just saying...

9:44
You are correct. I would say they will get just as much exposure at the AA level and pay a hell of a lot less money for that exposure.

"Exposure" is irrelevant until they are midgets.

How many kids just do whatever until midgets and then the rubber meats the road?

Do not sweat making the docs team at bantams. No biggie....

8:39
If you think $1500 is not a chunk of money then you are way out of touch. Most people cannot afford to spend that much money for a 13- or 14-year old to play hockey. Unless you are making $100K your kid will probably not play travel hockey at any level. Only the wealthy can afford to play AAA or even AA hockey. Many teams charge at least $1200 just for your child to practice. Even in Minnesota the cost is over $1000. This does not include jerseys, coaching fees, league fees, tournament fees and travel (gas, food, hotels, entertainment). This adds up to over $5K for an A or AA team and equipment is not even factored in to the cost.

Hockey does not have the best athletes due to the high cost of playing the sport. When a kid can play football or basketball for $30 and a pair of $50 shoes, what do you think a parent is going to choose?

How do you afford Midget if you can't afford to pay to play competitively? I disagree you can play AA and play with a quality team that will take you to Midgets. First of all, hasnt CS pretty muched water down what is left at the AA level? Hockey isnt the only sport that cost to play competitvely, think travel baseball, think golf, think several other sports or activities where you want to play the best. Typically, how many AA players make the AAA Midget Minor team?

As far as being able to afford it that is something that I can not address. Don't know your particular situation but as has been said before, if AAA really wants your kid money is not an issue.

Well you can disagree with me all you want about a quality AA taking you to midgets but let me ask you a question. How many kids on the AAA u16 Blues played Tier II last year (AA). They have 20 kids on the roster, of those 20, how many played central states last year? The answer is 11. So over half their roster is made of players who played tier II at bantams or there first year of midgets. So, yes, it is VERY possible to play on a quality tier I team at midgets even though you were not tier I the year before.

Now I will say 11 tier II kids making the tier I team the next is a high number but the idisputable point is if your kid is good enough and tearing it up at tier II he can make tier I when it matters, at midgets.

So like was said before, do not sweat missing docs team this year. Tear it up at tier II and maybe at midgets it can happen for you.

Oct. 30 8:39 You are an arrogant sob aren't ya? How dare you tell anyone that they should or shouldn't play hockey? Their kid could probably skate circles around yours so they suffer for them to play. As far as costing the same C.S. doesn't usually go to Canada,unless they played for Mermis or McGlynn,or take as many trips period,so it doesn't cost as much as AAA.

Heard this team is going AAA next year.

Majority of pre c.s. season was played against aaa teams.

Well next year of course they will be midgets, hell why not have three tier I teamsm blues cavallini and this group? Anyone else want to have a tier I team, the more "exposrue" the better right?

Sure, if the talent is there why not, if the talent isn't there then don't. I think Blues coaches and parents fear another tier 1 team will skim player away from theirs, so they are dead against it.

Sounds good, but who decides if there is enough talent there? In my opinion, there is NOT enough talent there for the Cavallini U16 team. Yet some of the parents say, well we are getting exposure and it is not about wins and losses. I think it depends on the specific team on whether the parents care. In the case of the 95's, I think most if not all of the kids who went out for the Blues and did not make it, so why would the blues care if there is a second 95 team with the kids that they passed on?

I dont think the parents care about Cavallinis U16 team either as those kids were not selected for the Blues. I do think they wish the U18 Cavallini team was not around as some of those kids would have made the blues..and actually a few of them did make it and chose to play for the Cavallinis.

In the coming years more kids would possibly look at another tier 1 team including blues players and the blues may not always have the "pick" of the talent. Not talking this year.

Well you might be right. Time will tell and Cavallini has given you the blue print for success. Make sure the coach is good and the kids believe they have a chance for exposure.

With this group of 95's there will definitely be room for another team.There always is at the first year of midgets as people who have been used to playing AAA do not make the AAA team as they are getting beat out by players a year older.

If Cavallini keeps his U16 team I would say you will have a very difficult time making a third Tier I team.

There are 11 94's playing on the U16 Blues this year. One would assume they all make it their major year if they come try out. So, the 95's will be competing against those returning 94's also against the 94's currently playing for Cavallini or central states.

Maybe a few of those 94's do not come back or make the MM Blues but you would have to say only about half of the current 95's make the blues next year. Where do they go?

The more kids the better as far as getting opportunity to play AAA.

If parents will support it why not

When I think of this I think of American Idol. Why you ask, because there are people who come on there with a dream that lack the talent yet think they have this talent to become a superstar. As I listen to them sing I think, how the hell could you think you have that kind of talent? Sometimes it is the same with quite a few hockey players. But if you want to pay the bill to make your dreams come true, go for it. Sooner or later for almost all you will have to realize Simon was right......

The idol spin sounds more suited for your kid's soccer team.

How did the 95s do against TI this weekend?

Wrong thread.

Half of the 95 AAA team will not make the U16 team next year. Maybe two or three, but the team will be mostly comprised of 94s with a few 95 additions. That's my prediction anyway. There will be way too many 94s competing for those spots. When kids get to Midgets, unfortunately, they scatter. Cavallini will be good option, then it's pick a CS team to try out for and make that if you're lucky. Things change drastically at midgets.

How many aaa team are the 95s playing this year?

Most every game they play. Duh.

people, enjoy your sons, or daughters success. at whatever level, cherish these times, they end way too quickly. enjoy the company, between the parents and kids, the St. louis market is being recognized in Hockey circles, as far as talent goes, so with the right promotion, and dedication, the sky is the limit with some players,if its ment to be, they will move on, if not then they will have great memories of their time in hockey, and teach their children the love of the game.good luck to all the teams in the region, revel in their success, support in their setbacks and teach them to succeed in hockey, it can become a life lesson worth its weight in gold.

How many aaa team are the 95s playing this year?

So far the Affton 95 team has played 9 different registered AAA teams going 9 and 5
They have played 2 diferent registered AA teams going 3-0-1 This weekend the team is scheduled to play 4 different AAA registered teams. Carolina Jr Hurricanes AAA, Amherst Knights AAA (New York)
Team Arizona hockey AAA {who they beat in a shoot out in a tournament) and Compuware AAA {Detroit}
After that I beieve they might have some more AAA teams lined up to play but their Cetral states schedule will pretty much take most of their time.

How many aaa team are the 95s playing this year?

So far the Affton 95 team has played 9 different registered AAA teams going 9 and 5
They have played 2 different registered AA teams going 3-0-1 This weekend the team is scheduled to play 4 different AAA registered teams. Carolina Jr Hurricanes AAA, Amherst Knights AAA (New York)
Team Arizona hockey AAA {who they beat in a shoot out in a tournament) and Compuware AAA {Detroit}
After that I they might have some more AAA teams lined up to play but their Central states schedule will take most of their time.

GO 95 AFFTON,95 AAA Kick Butt in windy city

So what is going on with the second "AAA" team, the Affton CS 95 squad. The got spanked 5-1 in chicago by the 31st rated tier I team 5-1?

Affton spinmasters, what say you?

Well Chesterfield CS isn't in it and the great top ten 95AAA barely got by a 34th ranked team 7 to 8. Sounds like games are up for grabs by any team. Your point is?

My point is two fold.

#1- Who the hell is talking about Chesterfield

#2- Games are "up for grabs"? Does not sound to me like 5-1 was much of a game that was "up for grabs".

I decided to mentioned Chesterfield the same as you decided to mentioned Affton. You don't even have a team in the show so mind your own business.

1:11

If a losing by 4 goals is a blowout or terrible loss, then the 95AAA have had it taken to them 4 times this year as opposed to Afftons 3 times. Look at the stats before you shoot off your uniformed mouth.

You affton spin doctors are good, damn good. A 4 goal loss is a blow out. All four of those losses have came against team illinois, the second ranked team in the country.

So losing against the 2nd best team in the country is the same as losing to a 38th ranked team? I love how you take a sliver of facts.....comparing blowout losses against radically different opponents- as the same thing.

That is some excellent spin work, keep up the good work!!

So how is that for shooting off my mouth---actually having the facts of who was played and considering the strength of the opponents!!!!

The 95AAA team is a "top ten" team that was blown out 4 times by another top ten team, Team Illinois. The Affton Team was blown out twice by the same top ten team, Team Illinois and a AAA team that was ranked above Affton in the 30s. Again what's your point?

Next time get your rankings straight. The team that "blewout" Affton today is ranked 31st in AAA and Affton is ranked tied for 34th in AAA. Maybe if you had a team at Nike Bauer you might know what you are talking about as opposed to just talking.

You got your ass handed to you my a mid tier tier I team. That's my point. The AAA 95 Blues have not had their ass handed to them by a mid tier tier I team. Get the point yet or do I need to say it a different way?

If you weren't such a dumbass you would know that Affton is a tier II team. Now if their ranking is moved to tier I they ranked as a middle of the road tier I team, so a tier II team getting beat by 4 by a middle of the road tier I team is really not a big deal. Unless of course it is coming from somebody like you who is boo hooing over their kid not being on a team good enough to get an invite to nike bauer. My point is that your point is quite pointless "dumbass".

Thanks for the informative post. I never realized that Affton was tier II considering the dozens of posts about how much of tier II machine they are and that they should be playing tier I.

Speaking of invites, I think you and others like you have the problem as you were not "invited" to be a part of 95 AAA after tryouts. Since you have played AAA in the past it is really difficult for you to accept that you just are not tier I quality any longer.

So you come on here talking about how the coaches made mistakes not picking your little former tier I superstar yet the team is doing better than ever. Have a great season. Enjoy being that big fish in the small pond. Have a great year!!

Thanks Mrs?

3:55

Still upset your team isn't at nike bauer. I'm sad for you too.

apparantly your team is not there either...

Ok Affton spin doctors, you know we love your take on your things. So give us the gravois spin for..


Losing to the 31st ranked Carolina Jr. Hurricanes 5-1
Losing to the 37th ranked Compuware 4-1
Losing to the 38th ranked Amherst Knights 1-0

A combined 10-2 agains mid level tier I teams. What angle you going with? That I dont know you're tier II again? That I am upset that my team is not up there? Or you going to try something new?

AAA95 ranked #6

W 8-7 #43 Hamilton Bulldogs (CAN) - up 6-3 going into the 3rd- almost imploded
L 2-3 #2 Detroit Honeybaked (USA) - respectable
L 1-2 #1 Don Mills Flyer (CAN) - respectable

TBP- #7 Florida Everglades 4:45pm

is it the year to just pick big kids?

1:12

Still sad your kiddie isn't good enough for nike bauer.

Good enough for Nike Bauer...now that made me chuckle. Lets see, they took 80 teams from the 95 birth year, sounds like they were extremely selective. If by selective you mean the check cleared, I will give you that.

Congrats on going 1-3 and scoring 4 goals in 4 games. I am sure it was definitely worth it to beat the 53 ranked team arizona who you have already played and beat once.

Powehouse teams like TPH and Kansas City must have been a part of that incredibly tough screening process.......

So your son still not able to break into the 80 teams.

Actually my son was there, his team did well thanks for asking!

How did you guys do? Oh dont want to talk about that do we? Didn't quite "kick butt" as aniticipated?

4:38

You are a liar. Your son's team did not get an invite.

He was there and had a good time. Oh yeah, and his team had some success as well. Having been his team manager here is how it works. Submit an application and send in a deposit EARLY. Must also submit scores from last year.

If you did not have your blinders on you would know that there are teams in the tourney ranked lower than 100 in their tier II age group. There are also a lot of good teams there. But you acting like if you are in the tourney means you must be a good team is just plain stupid.

But you have said lots of stupid things.

I thought this was a thread about affton 95 CS, interesting that is the last thing you want to talk about!

Grow up!!!

I watched some of an Affton game this weekend and they seem to really struggle. Not much team work & rough on passing. It looked as if there was a set play for the D to bring the puck up the ice and shoot on goal. You can't beat good AAA teams doing that kind of thing. With the way your team looked you need to stay playing Tier 2. Sorry guys… you just don't have it to play AAA.

The Blues are playing well. They may have lost some games this weekend but they were good quality games. The boys work the puck well and set up some very good scoring chances surrounded by a solid D.

5:20

It's just eating you up that your kid didn't make a team that went to nike bauer. Improve this year and try out again next year. Maybe your kid will find a spot on a better team next year and will have a chance.

He was there playing for a team that your kid got cut from. I think you have it backwards on who needs to improve!!

Yaahh....Riiight!

The real question here may be can your little brat make a midget minor aaa team next year?When the good ol boy years are over?Or will you buy and start your own aaa with a few others?Or will you beg affton cs to take him?

Not sure how many of the kids playing 95 AAA will make the U16 Blues next year. Do have a real good idea of how many playing on the affton 95 Central states team will make it. I would think you will need to worry more about other options....

You should hope and pray affton kids make it ,so there will be room for your son at affton.But you can always try for chesterfields team or T.B.

It just eats you up inside that your kid was one of the best few at squirts and now cant make the tier I team doesn't it? Get the BS machine cranked up again and ready to go for next year....

1) it is all about politics
2) my kid was too good
3) only picking his friends
4) kid not big enough, coach only taking big kids


and on and on. Just like life, things change my friend and perhaps that is the lesson you should learn from all this. Don't let it eat you up inside, that is really just wasted energy.

12:29

This (hockey) is NOT life. The lesson has been wasted on YOU - My Friend.

Of course hockey is not life. But it has many lessons to teach us just like life does. One of those is life changes and what was true last year may not be true any longer. Sorry for you that lesson is so hard to comprehend. See you at tryouts and I can even give you some new material if you ask nicely.

1:25

Reread your post. You hold hockey as validation. Again. The lesson is lost on you. Waste of time explaining to you grasshopper.

Hockey is a validation of life lessons and a learning of new ones that perhaps would not be learned without hockey. Sorry that is over your head grasshopper, hopefully your kid is smarter than you.

The posters on this thread are like 2 year olds. What a joke. 9:01 this morning had it right. There was too much selfish play by Afton and they deserved to be beat. Coaches should step up. And this "my kid is better than your kid" shit needs to end. How immature.

------ I watched some of an Affton game this weekend and they seem to really struggle. Not much team work & rough on passing. It looked as if there was a set play for the D to bring the puck up the ice and shoot on goal. You can't beat good AAA teams doing that kind of thing

I agree with this statement,the coach encourages the defense to "skate" the puck and it works against teams that don't play tier 1 competition and are basically really AA teams.

------ Sorry guys… you just don't have it to play AAA.

I couldn't disagree more,just because you lose a couple of games to teams that play better doesn't mean you throw in the towel. The coaches have to make adjustments work hard in practice and play tough teams.
The 5-1 loss to Carolina was basically played with 2 players that were back in the lineup that hadn't played the last month and a half for various reasons. Those 2 players combined for 6 penaltys and the Affton team had like 10 penaltys in the 2nd and 3rd period (some legit and some bogus) None the less, Until the rash of penaltys that started about the 5 min. mark into the second, the game was a 1-1 tie. The Amherst game was a 1 to nothing game that could of easily went the other way. Shots were close. Compuware out played Affton in this game and Affton had shown some bad habits again like the D always trying to "skate" with the puck but not able too.

-----The Blues are playing well. They may have lost some games this weekend but they were good quality games. The boys work the puck well and set up some very good scoring chances surrounded by a solid D.

It seems the Blues have not improved but have stayed about the same level so far still losing close games to better teams a 1-2-1 showing with tough competetion is nothing to write home about.
But by all means ,I wouldn't tell you to play weaker teams like you basically told Affton. Your ego is really laughable

Blues may not have improved. They haven't had any consistency whatsoever due mostly to injuries. This past weekend's game against Honeybaked was a pretty good showing. I don't know that anyone expected such an improvement over last year as they have already had.

RE: November 9 2009, 5:31 PM

Are the forwords just that weak on Affton that you have to have the defense go coast to coast?

From what I see, when playing tougher AAA teams some of the Affton forwards struggle at breaking out the puck and have difficulty scoring when opportunities are presented. That's to be expected when the majority are new at playing AAA teams. They will learn through experience and will be better as the season goes on. Affton has a couple of fast defensemen that can handle the puck that are used at times to breakout the puck or to drive the puck to the net to spark the team. And no, this doesn't always work against AAA teams.

Affton still has too many AA skilled players on both defense and offense to play against top end AAA teams and have much if any success. But, they are having success against mid-level AAA teams. How may years did it take the 95 AAA team to get into the top ten and that's after selecting Affton's best two scoring forwards? AAA quality forwards that can consistantly put the puck in the net are few.

Everyone outside of Affton seems to be so focused on the false fact that Affton wants to be a tier I team this year. Affton is playing AAA teams to learn, improve and show the players as high a level of play that can be provided. That is Affton's focus. Next year, these kids may just be ready for the next level and I think that is what has some parents on other teams in other organizations upset. Stop looking over your shoulder and enjoy the year for what you have.

I think both teams are doing well. I don't think anyone is thinking about next year. No doubt there will only be 5-10 95's who make the U16 AAA blues next year and where they come from is anyones guess. Hope everyone enjoys their season.

Are the forwards just that weak on Affton that you have to have the defense go coast to coast?

No, but its really funny watching the forwards line up at the Blue line waiting for the d to gain the zone, Skating the puck is effective against lower level teams. Last weekend the D either tried to skate it or did about 30 times. There was 1 goal that resulted and that was against the worst team. So that will justify another 30 or more attempts,at least.

Its tough for a forward to score when the d won't headman the puck right away while the forward has momemtum to gain the zone. Skating the puck by the D leaves the D open, so 1 of the forwards has to read that and cover for the D.
The d has a hard time making those nice passes in the nuetral zone and they don't practice it so it is what it is. Forwards just wait at the blue line and drive the net looking for a rebound or a pass from the D behind the net. Thats the offensive plan.

Well if this is a big concern of yours and you have a kid on the team, maybe it should be addressed with the team coach as opposed to N54. I'm sure you don't have the guts to face to face a coach. I haven't witnessed this problem to the degree that you state and in fact it hasn't been a problem to my knowledge at all, so I'm left to believe that you are trying to stir the pot for Affton on the informative N54.

Well if this is a big concern of yours and you have a kid on the team, maybe it should be addressed with the team coach as opposed to N54. I'm sure you don't have the guts to face to face a coach. I haven't witnessed this problem to the degree that you state and in fact it hasn't been a problem to my knowledge at all, so I'm left to believe that you are trying to stir the pot for Affton on the informative N54.

No one stated it was a big concern.
It was stated that the D tried to skate the puck about 30 times, less than 3 times a period.(12 periods) It was just pointed out by a parent(9:01)Nov.8 that watched a game.If the coach doesn't think its a problem than thats his opinion. Its his team,and he can coach any system he wants. It was pointed out that it doesn't work against better Tier 1 teams as in the tournament. As far as facing a coach,not a problem,but whats the point some of the coaches just take it negatively so what does anyone have to gain by it. Its his team and he lets his players do what he likes. He's a nice guy and thats more important than some hockey opinion by a parent.He's putting in his time for the kids and thats appreciated. Affton should do fine in their league.
Actually when this forum is used to talk about youth hockey I thinks its ok.
Its those haters that ruin this forum.

10:59

Sorry Mr. Obama I thought that I was allowed to have my opinon also.

So you say the D skated the puck up 30 times in 4 games and score only 1 goal for the efforts. These games were played in 45 minutes so let’s break this down. There were a total of 180 minutes of play time so if each play took approximately 1 minute to unfold that means there are possibly 180 plays to attempt to score.

Affton scored 4 goals in 4 games and assuming the forwards scored 3 goals and the defense scored 1 goal, it took the forwards 150 minutes of play time to generate 3 goals or 50 minutes per goal. The defense was able to score 1 goal in 30 minutes or 30 minutes per goal.

I think the coach has it figured out, but that would just be my opinion.

Wow, 12:55. Can you please identify yourself? With logic like that, your kids must really be screwed up. Please, Identify yourself....... I just want to keep my kid away from you.

12:55s kid is probably a Defenseman on a Squirt or Mite team. That time breakdown took some thought.
Hmmmm 1 minute a play lol
How do you factor turnovers and the fact that Affton got outscored and lost 3 out of 4 games. I want you factor the other teams scores/minutes -----
No not really,although it might be entertaining to read.

7:32 & 8:00

I'm sorry, I should have labeled the post sarcasm for the slow ones.

Unless you have a horse in this race..butt out. Team had a shitty weekend big deal do you think the blues,when they lose,should give up?

no, but whenever these guys have a good weekend, we are sure to hear about it......so why not talk about the less then steller performances?

It is less than,not less then. Team has no I in it.Parents need to learn that.

What's funny about the mud slinging between the 95AAA and the Affton CS is that it must just be the parents because the kids sure don't care about any of the BS. In fact the majority of the 95AAA Blues kids and the 95 Affton CS kids got together and went to see a movie togther over the weekend at NB. I'm beginning to believe that we have some parents outside of these organization just stirring the pot to get these two teams at odds or at least the parents at odds with one another.

The bashing may not becoming from anyone on either of these teams, but someone from affton likely is involved...........As I asked on another board, of the couple dozen Afftonites who would stoop to this level, which one do you think is?

if everybody loves each other so much why arent these three bantam teams playing each other all the time
St Louis Blues 95 AAA 17.01
St Louis Blues 96 AAA 16.35
Affton Americans 95 CSDHL 13.91

Maybe because all three teams have between 65-75 games already scheduled and they want to practice in between.

i know das right. 95AAA, before November 15h, has already played 33 games vs. a Top 5 schedule.

Wow...All the bickering stopped. What happend? I was enjoying the Affton, AAA Blues and Chesterfield news. Did all the teams quit playing?

Somebody spouting off about being ranked number 1?

Drop 3 games to Indy. Congrats

So much for that number 1

What happend? Was Affton missing players?

Lots of issues with the team. The entire team was present.

During the positive run the team had 8 forwards now they have 10 the chemistry is remixed. 10 forwards isn't working Their are other issues as well,. Affton's defense continues to get caught up rushing the puck, and some of the players take stupid penaltys at the worst times. . Coaching staff takes a life long goal scoring winger and makes him a center. Since then he hasn't got 1 point. Lots of things going on. The line that had over 100 goals last year hasn't played together but a few shifts this year, Reinvent the wheel so to speak. Indy played well, They had a nice powerplay.

"Coaching staff takes a life long goal scoring winger and makes him a center."

Life Long? WTF

They are 13 or 14 FFS

Learn to play other positions.

Did he have help when he scored all those goals?

Hull and Oates

just have to figure out what changed. things were working and people were happy then new face shows up and all these posts with big opinions about the team, how its coached, how players play. Sounds like a know it all dad at work

"Coaching staff takes a life long goal scoring winger and makes him a center."

Someone asked about why the team is struggling,and this is just 1 of the many issues that has a 1st place team from last year probably will be 3rd or 4th this year just stating the "facts". The player had over 45 goals last year and was put at center and hasn't put up a point since he was put there at the Bauer invitational. Just "1" of the many issues.
You are right go ahead learn a position at the Central States level . It is about developmaent after all

When the team has success ,Its pointed out as well. When the team is struggling its also pointed out,the "dad" at work is doing nothing more then observations good or bad. The team has lost 6 out of its last 7 games. Right now there are issues that the team needs to work out if they want to be successful.

So does this mean hold off a little bit on them being a Tier I team or should they still be a tier I dynamo?

Tuesday 11/24/09 7:50PM Batam Major - Chesterfield vs Affton Hardees Ice Plex

Everyone come and watch...............................................................I guess Chesterfield has a good chance of kicking some buttttt!!!!

Tier 1, not with the current coaching staff, but yes a number of these kids could play Tier 1.

Who is the winger turned center? Or what initials? Just curious. Who scored 45 goals last year for this team?

Hummer?

Lets leave names out of it.

Give me a break!! 1st of all these are a bunch of 13-14y/o children playing a sport. They're not on here claming to be NHL stars, the parents are. The post regarding it's good to be #1(what happened to that) I would bet didn't come from any of the players. Do you people pay for your children to play so you have the rights to come on this pathetic link & dog our youth? Or for them to experience the enjoyment and learning experiences of a sport. Try just sitting back and enjoy watching the children grow & have fun. Win or lose it's not the end of the world. This thread started about a month ago regarding how it's nice to be #1 & now you come back with someone spouting off about being #1, now how's it feel. It feels like the boys have to do their best to pull it together & work as a team to do the best they can! Good luck to ALL the teams, have fun & learn from your mistakes. The lesson is don't blame this kid or that coach & make excuses. Just give it your all.

Well said could not agree more.We should all be rooting for all St.Louis kids to do well .No matter if it's affton,aaa,chesty,or who ever.

St. Louis blows. This is a Show Me forum, not a McDonalds, ahem, Arch city forum. How many kids from the Clydesdale city are playing in the NHL?

Give me a break!! 1st of all these are a bunch of 13-14y/o children playing a sport. They're not on here claming to be NHL stars, the parents are. The post regarding it's good to be #1(what happened to that) I would bet didn't come from any of the players. Do you people pay for your children to play so you have the rights to come on this pathetic link & dog our youth? Or for them to experience the enjoyment and learning experiences of a sport. Try just sitting back and enjoy watching the children grow & have fun. Win or lose it's not the end of the world. This thread started about a month ago regarding how it's nice to be #1 & now you come back with someone spouting off about being #1, now how's it feel. It feels like the boys have to do their best to pull it together & work as a team to do the best they can! Good luck to ALL the teams, have fun & learn from your mistakes. The lesson is don't blame this kid or that coach & make excuses. Just give it your all.

You really ought to mind your own business,These players have been playing travel hockey for 9 years. This team was a first place team last year. The player hasn't scored since placed at a position that he never played before. The player asked the coach to take him off center and play with the center and winger that they scored over 100 goals last year yes over 100 goals. Its the player that has always been a power forward and the best winger on the team for years. He has played with the center since mite yes since mite on various teams. The players don't like losing 6 out of 7 games. The last goal he was part of was when he was playing wing with his good friend. They were very successful for years working as a team. The new arrangement isn't working at all If the team was playing half as good as last year no one would say a thing. This team never lost 3 games in a row last year. Like I said the player asked the coach to put him with his line that he knows is successful. The players want to have fun.

Sounds like thiws player is not as good as everyone think........Great players can play with anyone and make they make the players around them better......in this case, it sounds like the players around this player make him better.....maybe the coach is trying to show him how to be a more complete player?.....Are he, the center, and the winger going to be together forever?

Before the grammar police come out, let me correct this

Sounds like this player is not as good as everyone thinks........Great players can play with anyone and they make the players around them better......in this case, it sounds like the players around this player, make him better.....maybe the coach is trying to show him how to be a more complete player.....Will he, the center, and the winger be plying together forever?

Funny, this was a general post meant to be positive. You tried to put a negative spin on it. Yes, negative. It wasn't directed at any one post, but you appear to have made it all about you. Just as from reading your post it appears the TEAM is all about one child. Hopefully, it can all be worked out & the TEAM can begin to work together & become as successful as you once spoke of them being. Good Luck to you & your team.

It's not about 1 player but a team and Affton has not played as a team the entire season. Yes there were some early victories over some mid ranked AAA teams but still the system that is in place emphasizes individual players not team play.

I thought the best player (forward) left the team this year to play AAA.

Oh, you mean the guy that led this team last year in penalty minutes?

He was not the point leader nor was he the goal leader......

He was in a pack of about 5 players at the top.

Skill wise = good player - heart wise = failure.

Where were you? I was gonna say there is allready a different thread with that best player subject in depth.


Bottom the team now has a lot of talent but the coaching staff has to find the chemistry mix that was working a couple of weeks ago. Like was written before there are more than 1 issue that needs to be worked out but not sure if the coaching staff is up to it.

I find it strange that you people tout being number one and/or how many points players make in a season, how they're the best, etc., and as soon
as someone challenges or makes a remark, they are chastized for it. Also,
you continue to criticize a good player from last year about his penalty
minutes. Who is playing AAA and who is worried about their Tier II ranking? His skill must be outweighed against his penchant for the box.

Anyone know what happend in Chicago? I hear that 5 Affton players are suspended for several games?

http://www.csdhl.org/Default.aspx?tabid=72


they got a too good for AAA suspension....

Bad coaching + No Team Discipline = Stupidity

I thought anyone on gravois road who names starts with a McG.... was a fantastic coach and worthy of coaching any team in town.

Anybody that has ever played c.s. and has played against the huskies knows how cheap they are. Not to say Affton c.s. kids are angels all the time but when the referee's let illegal hits go over and over after 2 and a half games you just get to the point enough is enough. There was no bad coaching or undisciplined play. I was up there with my sons team and talked to some of the parents. Both sides agreed refs were not in control of game. Two huskies jumped one Affton and fights ensued. End of story.

ooohhh! Don't let ACR see this or he'll bring the hockey feds in to clean this up. Bet it started when one of them turned to avoid the hit!

This teams problems trace back to the arrival of a new player and his daddy to the team. take a look, trace the results. first criticisms of the team, its coaching, its passing, breakout, discipline start showing up on N54 after this guy shows up. doing great - then all of a sudden - the team is driving off the cliff. gotta feel sorry for the parents and coaches they probably didn't see it coming.

250 So its ok to punch another player because he "turned away from a hit". What world do you live in? Thats not even close to what happened. They were pissed because the cherry picker system they teach wasn't working and they were losing.

Boy a lot of affton teams sure have bad luck dont they with this kind of thing? Sure seem to have a lot of problems with refs, other teams, other parents, other coaches, problem never seems to lie within.

Ocello, Hazelton, now McGlynn. Gaurantee you this, it will never happen with Garth and the respect for the game he demands from his players. Hopefully for the sake of the kids, that will rub off on some of the other affton coaches.

Garth is a good coach..as are the others you mention. Very similar styles. And learn how to spell.

What happened to cause all the suspensions? At least Affton won the third game. That's good.

9:50

Saying they are all good coaches is simply an opinion. But if you think that the style of Garth is similair to Ocello and Hazelton you are insane.

Maybe not ocello..not a fan...but hazeltons are good coaches.

728 Referees were out of their league,suspended all kids on both teams that were on the ice!

That was one of the few calls made that wasn't biased.

Did not suspend all the kids that were on the ice. Huskies had eight players on the ice and only five suspended. Other three should have been given 10 games. Ref's did another crappy job of getting the numbers of the players that were on the ice. Again, if they weren't way over their head then they would have seen that one team had five guys on the ice while the other had eight. Left it up to the coaches to get the numbers of the players sent to the locker room.

You must of have been drunk watching this game and counted players twice. The series was three good games against 2 good teams that will be there in the end this year as well. until then keep your players in line

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I think you have the fight from the last game mixed up with the beatings from the previous game. It was game 2 when the scoring and changing lines from the Chicago team were celebrating the goal that tied the game while stomping the St. Louis goalies stick into the ice. When the goalie went to get his stick from under the cheering mob he was beaten by the 10 celebrating players and when two of the St. Louis players tried to help the goalie, they two were beaten as well. Of course to keep with the theme of the games both St. Louis players were given penalties for interfering with the celebration. The goalie received no penalty but needed a new stick. Strangely the games were exciting.

How does a team who won the league last year fall to .500 this year? Is missing 1 good player really that much of a difference?

Minor year central states is a joke. Just a money grab.

302 If you call Crosschecking from front and behind..and head contact numerous times,offsides that were never called, and sticks in your face ALL the time a good game you must be a nit wit who's kid can't really play the game unless he hurts opposing players. Your team is the one who supposedly had 2 players kicked out of a previous game for fighting..this is a first for this team. Must be that our coach has no control? NOT! And I doubt you will be one of the last standing. P.S. Central States Rules state that CELEBRATING is an automatic penalty for whoever does it. There should have been at LEAST 2 penalties for that. Get off the St. Louis thread with your nauseating "insight" to the game.

I forgot all players from St. Louis are innocent. Not only are you drunk but what a blind moron!

That the best ya got a**hole?

Who's the fat coach for Affton? What a looser. Mouthing off to other players as the game is going on. A real class act.

Dont they have two fat guys?

121 He was mouthing off because your "Angels" were probably talking smack to him too,just like they were to the rest of the team, and anyone else not affiliated with your team.Just wait until these angels grow up. What goes around comes around and it will be sooner than you think. Pathetic parents...thats what you breed.

Under no circumstances shoudl a coach say something to players on another team......It is only going to get comical after that.

Comical? That's a poor choice of word.

Huskies Coach already has a rep as being a taunter. He taunts other kids on the ice when he gets down. That must be against CS. Im surprised no one filed a zero tolerance violation against him. Evetualy someone will and 'he be gone'

1:21 what is it with the spelling on this board? It's LOSER. If you expect anyone to have respect for your opinions,appear intelligent.

1:21 what is it with the spelling on this board? It's LOSER. If you expect anyone to have respect for your opinions,appear intelligent.

The huskies coach should be reported.

He has been reported.

I thought it was the affton coach who was saying things to players on the other team.

no it was huskies

Huskie coach has be doing this all year. Lots of good people and players on that team. Let's hope he doesn't corrupt them. That's all the hockey world needs is another goon.

Watch out Affton, here comes CHA! With good coaching and the team playing a hell of lot better CHA will be higher in the standings at the end of season and advance to Nationals while Affton is sitting at home.

How was the Affton V Blues Match Up this past weekend?

not hard to find

http://myhockeyrankings.com/view_2009_team_scores.php?team_nbr=2027

Chesterfield parents are sure doing a good job of stirring it up this year on Network 54.

All the other clubs are falling for the posts.

FYI other clubs. Don't fall for the bait. Heard from a Chesterfield parent that they are getting a kick out of seeing Affton, Twin Bridges, and St.Peters post on here when they are the ones setting the bait.

This is their way of enjoying the year and lightening the mood at the rink since all of their CS teams are struggling except Midget Major.

Trying to point to other clubs being crazy and that parents should stick with Chesterfield where parents are sane.

Just a few questions.

Why does Affton have such a bad record?

Losing to Indy 3 in a row, tying Chesterfield, and dropping 2 out of 3 to the Chicago Blues..What is going on in Affton?

Did the top defenseman quit or is he just injured?

See above.

four more kicked out in last game
AGAIN!

Nice try chesterfield.Back to your place at the bottom after last nights blowout.6 to 2 and affton had two goals waved off.

What is going on with this team. Injuries?

Why have they fallen off. Looked a really solid team earlier in the year.

What is going on with this team. Injuries?

Why have they fallen off. Looked a really solid team earlier in the year.



Well the team is 5-2-1 in its last 8 and are looking good.

The way I hear it is that the team took on a new player at NB and the team chemistry was thrown off. This new kid is very talented, but something went off track at NB and continued. Possible issues with the coaches and the new kid left the team. A shame, he seemed to be an asset.

The way you hear it is wrong. Kid was on the team all year, just decided to play here and there and had no commitment to the team. The player should never have been picked for the team considering this is not new for this player and family. Did the same thing at CS two years ago and again last year at AAA. Once the kid did come on full time after freshman soccer season was over it did upset the chemistry of the team. Player thought that he was better then the team and didn't want to play a role but wanted to play on his own. Dad didn't apprectiate the coaches so they decided to quit the team. Pretty sure they did the same thing at AAA the previous year. It is too bad that they wouldn't try to make the adjsutment, because the kid does have talent. The team will be just fine without him jhust as they were the first twenty games of the season.

dad didn't like the coaching and the kid wanted to play his own way? some things never change. I'm surprised they went to NB; they aren't big on traveling.

Didn't the kid get hurt or something?

Jimmy and Natalie, my how some things never change.

No, this kid did not get hurt.

Coaches are to blame. why would anyone put this kid on a team with the history the family has?

coaches are to blame....same kid wanted to come back last year in the middle of the season and the coach told them 'No Thanks!'

Totally disagree. Coaches want to try to give THE KID every chance to redeem himself and life is all about 2nd and 3rd chances. If the parents are to blame (they are) then some ground rules should have been in place.

Not knowing much about this current situation it seems like that might not have been done.

This family is well known for shit disturbing and their know it all attitude so it surprises me that Affton didn't set some parameters before allowing him on the team.

the player even had his sidekick (aka stevie's little wonder) join him down on Gravois. it seemed so right....

Why would a coach at this level let this go on? I thought Affton was better than that.

Next year they will land at Chesterfield and some other coach will make the same mistake.

Natalie and Jimmy will weasel their way in and then that team will be a nightmare.

Or maybe Behan will also try to be a martyr, he prides himself on taking on the headcase parents.

The family or player are not to blame. The coaches decided to let this player on the team knowing the past issues. The family just pointed out some problems with the team and decided that they would be better off leaving the team.

Please. You are so uninformed.