Hogue makes a slip on grip that can be used on a 22/45 which improves the grip but does not fit perfectly (loose on the top backstrap). You have to remove it everytime you disassemble the gun. I cut the backstrap off and glued it on using contact cement. I liked it better that way as I clean my gun everytime I shoot. What I ended up doing was milling off the factory grip groves and modified a pair of 1911 45 grips to fit. I am much happier with them.
Thanks for the comment. That's a good idea with the HOgue grips. I love this gun, only I wish the grips were different. What I want is fatter, like the Pearce grips on my Makarov. Do the Hogue Handalls add bulk?
And, by the way, you mention you field strip after every time you shoot. I've had my p4 less than a week and I am field stripping tonight. But the first couple of times I shot, I only ran a few patches through the barrel with Hoppes No. 9 and then some clean, dry ones. I also wiped out the bolt area. Is more required after every shooting? I have to say that my favorite shooter is my single-six and I cleanit thoroughly after every shooting, but it's so easy to clean. I'm a little intimidated by the time involved in reassembling after field stripping.
They do add some bulk and the rubber grips your hand better. But, like I said I wasnt happy with them for very long.
On the disassembly: If you need help you can go to http://www.ontargetguns.com/striptip.html Or, there is a message below from Yzguy (I think) that has a lot of pictures that seems like it covered everything pretty well.
On the cleaning: I use a cleaning rod so I have to remove the bolt. On Ruger's the trigger assembly sits right under the chamber so there is a lot of blow-by that builds up on the trigger return spring/plunger area. But, I made and installed a blast shield on my gun so that area stays pretty clean. I am just one of those guys that cleans his gun everytime I shoot it. It cuts down on the stovepipes.
welp i kinda got fed up with the herrets fullys feel on the grips and that pain ta get mag button,they was also a lil thick too an needed some hollowin up for fingers an some contourin too with the dremel an some sanding.when i can find my digital ill post some pics for ya all to see when im finally done with these herrets for now.im gettin the urge to just make a new set in a different more custom grip setup as well.we see what happens.....heres my page as well. http://www.100megspop3.com/oldvalkyry/ruger.html
You should look into the Ranch Products magazine release that On Target has for the Mark II, better for use on pistols with custom grips and tight spaces. These make magazine removal a snap.
yep i have looked at that bud,i am tempted ta make one a tad different tho,still unsure,either way with the left grip sectioned out i can access the stock one fine ...
Using the extended release is much more than just access, it takes quite a bit of finger pressure to operate the standard Ruger release. The Ranch Products Extended Release can be operated with practically no pressure and activated by just a flick of the finger tip. I hated the Ruger standard release but the extended one is well worth the investment based on my experience. A quick flick of the finger is all it takes to make this release work.
It's your choice but with the limited access in the magazine well with a custom grip installed, this product really shines for ease of use.
Ruger withdrawal…called Ruger today to check on the status of my MK11 in for repair…I mean, they’ve had it since last Monday…then the shocker…it will be 4 to 6 weeks before they can even look at it…this means my only choice now is the old S&W M17, but now I have to figure out how to open it and which way do the bullets go and all that other stuff….hmm, this would be a good excuse to at least look at a 22/45…
Just found this site and look forward to reading it every chance I get. I've had a MK I and Mk II and sold them both for no good reason. I sure to miss them now. Next one is going to be a 22/45, my son likes the way it feels and I think he'll do better with this one. I plan to do a trigger job (my first try went into full auto!!!) but now I can get it to 2.5 pounds without any problems. My Govt Model had a matte blue finish, I had the small tapered part on the front of the barrel cut flush and recrowned. It had a Ruger scope base and steel Ruger rings for the Propoint, man was it heavy for bullseye shooting! I also used a RWS 3x9 scope and used it for shiloutte, moved up a class and was getting better but decided to dedicate myself to High Power Rifle across the course matches. Anyways I'm starting to ramble, keep up the good work!
Ive gotta add something to my 22/45, and the price is right for an extractor. which kind do you all seem to like?, the titanium ones "sound" cool. p.s.-yesterday, i pulled my bolt apart, and polished everything, including the firing pin(except the tip). I fugure this will contribute to reliability, and ease of cleaning. am i crazy?
You said you gotta add something to your 22/45. Are you having problems with stovepipes? Only "IF" the answer is "yes". Then, I would recommend the "exact edge" from Volquartsen. I have heard that the one you suggested is soft and gets battered. I have used the exact edge on 4 or 5 guns with great results.
While on another forum this weekend I read a thread about strange and funny things that happened while people were at the shooting range.It's been over thirty years since I've been to a range and never been to a civilian one so I have no stories to share. How about you?
One day at the range an interesting and unusual thing occurred.
It was a long time ago and I was conducting an M-14 qualification and familiarization course for a group of about fifty security personnel on the KD Rifle Range at Fort Ord, which is near Santa Cruz, California.
It was a long hot day on the range, which sits perpendicular to the Pacific Ocean. The temperature ran near 100 F. that day, which is unusual, being that close to the normally cool Pacific water. This beautiful range faced the ocean and the bullet impact area was a series of sand dune embankments located right on the beach.
After completing the training, I loaded the whole group back onto their bus for the 45 mile trip back to San Jose. It was around 1700 (That's 5 PM for you civilian types) and I was just about to get into my patrol car when a large earthquake struck. I had been through many earthquakes before but this was a really big one. We got shook pretty good and I saw the bus was thrashing wildly from side to side, the people inside were hooting and hollering about the surprise event. We were safe and in no danger because the rifle range was basically just one huge open area. So, we just stayed there out in the open and enjoyed the approximately 30 second ride. It felt to me, like I was surfing on cement, as the ground shifted violently back and forth.
During this time, I heard a large rumbling sound and turned toward the beach just in time to see three large 60 foot high sand dune embankments liquify and slide into the ocean. Needless to say, that was one really eye-opening event, and the 4 hour (which usually only takes 1 hour) ride back to the station was quite another unique experience all by itself.
The date? October 17, 1989, one that I'll never forget.
I was in my family's house in Campbell, CA at 5:04 P.M. on that day. I too will never forget that 7.1 magnitude ride. We lost the chimney of our house to that little shaker.
Sorry, but I don't have any range stories to share.
That day I was sitting in Candlestick park waiting for the A's/Giants World Series game to start. I was up in the nosebleed seats and during the quake remember looking down, through the floor and seeing cars below: those expansion joints sure earned their keep that day.
Funniest thing I ever saw at the range was when my wife joined me to shoot one day. I got there early and was keeping an eye on a group of mid-twenty-year-old adolescents shooting rental 9's "gangsta" style and whooping it up when they hit the paper (!!). Along comes this attractive petite lady who pulls a gun from her bag. Although she'll never admit it, I'm certain she deliberately ignored me on arrival to set them up ("no Hon, you were shooting and I didn't want to interrupt"). One took the bait and asked what she's shooting and they snickered and shook their heads when told 45. She set a target at 7 yards, loads and proceeds to knock out the X ring rapid fire. Only then did she walk over and give me a wink and kiss. They got real quiet and left shortly after that.
I see one of them regularly at the range now, he's always asking good questions and has become a pretty good shot.
This story brongs me back to my youth where I was firing machine guns on that range. Was at Presidio Monterey back in the mid fifties. We had to do carbine, 45, and tripod mounted MG.
I can't think of too many funny happenings at the range other than the time a group showed up with a civil war cannon. (they cleared one end of the rifle range, made the no smoking area a bit larger because of all the black powder, and let them shoot....boom!)
But I did read a thread on another forum about two guys shooting at a "rural" area used for a range. A few other guys came by "to watch". When the shooters were all done, the other guys asked.........all outa ammo? The shooters responded yep, we shot it all. The other guys pulled guns, robbed the shooters of their weapons and truck. The lesson was....if you are out with nobody else around, come and go with a loaded weapon.
I think the answer that would avoid trouble would be.......yeah, I shot all my target ammo and only have my hyrdrashok carry ammo loaded now in this gun I have in my hand.
but it COULD be argued that showing a carry gun is considered a threat, and they had no idea of what was about to happen (or they would have saved a few rounds)... Plus the element of surprise is sometimes good, but I do see what ya mean about trying to avoid trouble...
But I try to leave with at least a mag full, just because I'd hate to be caught in some mess on the way home and have a car full of guns and no ammo!!
One day, long ago, a funny thing happened while firing in a Highpower Service Rifle match at the Richmond Rod & Gun Club in Richmond, California.
We were shooting the 200 yard standing slow-fire portion of the match (ordinarily called Off-Hand.) This typically goes that a shooter and a scorekeeper are positioned at each firing point along the line and while the shooter fires, his scorekeeper calls out the value of each shot.
It usually goes something like this, "your first shot for record is a nine." This keeps up for the entire segment of standing slow fire. The values are called out by the scorekeeper after each shot until the shooter has exhaused all his shots or the Off-hand stage time runs out.
On this particular day in the middle of the string, a hapless ground squirrel ventures out from his burrow at the base of one the targets on the far end of the range. Without skipping a beat, the already standing and aiming shooter, adjusts, fires and blasts the squirrel. He then he looks back at his scorekeeper with a sly smile on his face. To which, the scorekeeper says matter-of-factly, "your eigth shot for record is an X."
After a brief chuckle, they both continued on for the rest of the match, just as if nothing special had happened.
the old guy at my gun store used to work at our local indoor range. He told me about this regular who used to come in with his rather curvy girlfriend and go shooting. while they were shooting the attendant looks in thru the bulletproof glass and sees the lady hopping around holding her stoamch and shouting blood murder. He assude she caught a nasty riccochet and was hit. he was calling 911 when the guy comes out and is crying he's laughing so hard. it seems that a spent brass bounced off the bay wall and bounced back and down the front of her plundging neckline and got lodged in her cleavage. after some self administered first aid (party pooper) she was fine. BTW she showed up the next week wearing a turtleneck.
Not that I have the cleavage to make the shirt stick out, but I was wearing a V neck tee shirt when some brass from my Mark 2 went down the front. It came to a rest in my belly button............and it was hot! If this happens to you, my only advice is to remember to put your gun down before jumping all around trying to get your tucked-in shirt out of your pants. It makes others nervous when you are acting frantic and sweeping everyone in sight.
Right after I bought my New Model Single Six a friend and I went to the country to try it out. We went down and old dead end road where people dump trash and began plinking bottles and cans for a while. Being a hot day we had a few adult beverages with us and we shot all of the trash so we looked for something else to shoot. We found an old toilet lying on its side and thought we could bust it up with a few shots. We fired at it from about 20 yards but could see no effects so we walked up to inspect it. All we saw were some grey streaks in the bowl but no cracks. As we returned to the 'firing line' we saw our remaining beverages, which had been on the ground between us, leaking out onto the red clay and slowly realized what dumbasses we had been. Of course we returned to the truck for the Colt Commander and blasted the john to hell. You get wiser as you get older but first you have to get older!
Driving my folk's 1961 Ford and shooting in a smallbore match at a wonderful (if you like winds) outdoor range, I managed to lock my car keys in the trunk with my equipment. Range officer used the PA system to ask shooters with early 1960's Ford products to try their keys in my trunk. Third shooter had a match! Bet that wouldn't happen with today's car locks.
the MK512 is $259 at www.guns4ever.com. I use that site as a check for fair prices. I've found that you can usually beat the guns4ever price by a little if you want to spend some time searching (unless he has it on special, then his prices are very hard to beat.)
Yes, this is a LEFT HAND model Hogue Monogrip Model#82070.
Has Thumbrest and finger grooves, new in package, never used.
$21.75 mailed to the lower 48.
Priority mail, Ins. extra.
PayPal OK (NO Credit Card), USPS MO or check (will hold until check clears).
Or trade for RIGHT HAND Model#82060 or #82000 for Ruger Mark II.
More than 20 years ago I got a Sterling Arms semi-auto. You know, the pocket pistol that's too heavy to fit in your pocket and that had no sights and can't cycle a whole magazine without a jam. I traded it as part of the purchase price for a used 22/45 p4. Now, that's a shooter!!!
Well, I finally went out and sprung for a Dremel tool. I needed to fit a magwell to my 1911 and it was cheaper to buy the tool than have a smith do it (just a small edge needed rounding). That worked fine. Then, I decided to try my hand at polishing the bolt on my slabside as previous posts spoke of. I loaded a small felt wheel with Dremel 421 compound and started polishing. After I finished with this, I put a clean felt wheel on and buffed. It came out smoother and shiny but still has some fine scratch marks. I was thinking of polishing the flats on the slabside barrel to a shiny finish but I don't want to ruin it.
What is required to get a "mirror" like finish? Should I have used one of those grey cloth wheels for the compound and buffed with felt? Do I need to buff with something else? Appreciate some feedback from all the "polishers" since the Dremel instructions are a bit lacking here.
Try some silver or fine jewlery polish on a new clean felt wheel. As usual, polish in a low visibility place first, like the bolt, to evaluate the results before attempting the sides of the barrel.
R,
Bullseye
Thanks Bullseye, so basically I did the right procedure...loading a felt wheel with compound for polishing and buffing with a clean felt wheel. Would you suggest a low speed or high speed with a light touch?
I found the best tool to use is the dremel tip that looks like a foam bullet. Especially the feed ramp area. I used silver polish and pretty much got a mirror finish. To polish the flats (I haven't tried) but I would imagine the trick would be to not polish the rest of the barrel. Make sure to tape off everything except the flat part.
So, do I use the bullet tip with polish and then buff with a clean felt wheel? Or, do I just keep polishing until there is no more polish left on the tip? Sorry to ask dumb questions, but polishing is new to me.
I use red jewelers rouge,I used to buff scratches out of plastic glass with it,to finish to a high luster you can use flitz polish or simichrome polish they do not take off any metal,I like to load up the wheel and buff then wipe off the excess with a clean cloth
Well, I guess I just polished enough until it is as shiny as I want it , then wipe off with a clean cloth. Then after I'm done I clean it with gunscrubber or brake cleaner to make sure ALL of the polish is gone. You don't want it to keep polishing as you shoot.
I use the slower speeds when using paste polish. The higher speeds just tend to throw off the paste by centrifugal force. A light touch is really the key to a smooth mirror like finish. Take your time and keep your wheel free of any stray grit.
R,
Bullseye
I recently polished my new 22/45. Using my dremel, and something called brasso. It worked, and made my bolt very shiny, but it takes longer than the pastes. i recomend the high rpm settingon your dremel, and lightly polish as you go. i put the compound directly on the bolt, and went from there. your probably done by now, but youll notice that after a thourough cleaning, your gun will feel much more fluid.
We recently had a thread on "old ammo" and how to get rid of it. Yesterday while cleaning, I found two boxes of Remington .22 Hi Velocity "Mustangs" that I bought in 1968 (price tag said $0.79.) They had been in the cardboard box that my Remington Nylon 12 rifle came in since about 1971. I decided to take them to the range and see if they still shoot. I first tried just one to see if it went off.......it was fine. Anyway, I ended up shooting both boxes and only one had a strike with a FTF. 99 fires and more accurate than the Blazers I was shooting. This was ammo that wasn't kept in airtight or moisture proof containers. Consider that for the last 23 years, its been sitting in cardboard in a beach atmosphere. Anyway, the point is: Don't get rid of that old ammo, if it looks good, try it.
I took my new 22-45 to the range on friday. I was really happy with the way it shot except one of the magazines is bad. When fully loaded it wouldn't feed the first three rounds and it didn't hold the bolt open on the last round. The shop that ordered it from ruger for me said to contact ruger in arizona for a replacement. Does this make sense and does anyone know how to contact them?
BTW, the hours for the phone number are good for Pacific time, not Mountain as the website for Ruger says. Found that out Monday, but still recieved great service.
While cleaning my 22/45 and having my firing pin stop and firing pin both fall out, I noticed the little spring that lives up under the firing pin (part # A20000) was broken into two pieces.
I tried reassembling it and stretching the srping some, but the firing pin does rattle forwards and back a bit, which I don't think it used to or should.
Is this an unsafe condition? And how does that spring fit in there anyway? Does it slip over that tongue on part # A03900? or underneath it?
I put a brick through it today before I found out about the spring and the only problem I noticed was having 2 jams today when I usually have one every two or three bricks. Might this be related?
Thanks ahead of time for any help you can give me.
Well, that all depends on if your chamber face is dented from the firing pin. You'll hve to inspect for this and see. But, I suspect your breech face is fine since your pistol would have had to be disassembled for the Firing Pin Stop to fall out.
As far as being unsafe the answer is- yes, for now. The good news is; Ruger will send you a new Rebound Spring and Rebound Spring Suppport if you contact them, for free.
The new spring will go into the narrow end of the Rebound Spring Support and the assembled rebound group fits under the Firing Pin with the spring end against the flat part of the firing pin, to force it back when the hammer isn't striking the pin.
Bullseye is right, replace it. Call Ruger parts, they will send you a new one. You can also order firing pin springs for 1.15 each from Numrich (order something else to justify the 4.65 shipping). The new spring will only fit over the plunger one way. The "hook" on the plunger faces down, all the way forward into the recess under the firing pin.
Since the spring is broken, your firing pin stop pin will be loose and want to fall out when you take out the bolt. Don't lose it.
most of the stuff on the site is mine, but the carbine (enforcer) is my dads, he collects M-1's. The Enforcer is one of my favoriates that he has, a real flame thrower at the range, but fun to shoot.
I made a post on Sept. 17 asking about the local gun shop's assertation that the Gov. and the Gov. Competition models being more accurate than the other models, but not because of the longer barrel.
Found a post from back in 2000 that says the Gov. Comp model has a ground instead of machined crown. I guess this could be what the gun shop guy could have been talking about.
How do you separate the barrel from the reciever on the Mk2? Is there a good source of info on custom work for the Mk2. It really isn't neccessary for what I want to do but I would like to know how for future work anyway.
I have done a custom trigger and trigger guard and grips. Now time for barrel work.
Joe:
Try a hacksaw. If that takes too long, try a welding torch. Hot lava would probably work.
That should cover it. Note that you can't buy a replacement barrel - serial number is stamped on entire assembly (which doesn't come apart), which would make trying to replace anything the same as buying a new gun.
The only practical way to remove the barrel is to cut it off at the shoulder on a lathe.Trying to unscrew it by putting any part of the upper reciever in a vice or anything similar will twist/crush the reciever. Clark sells replacement barrels, and will do the replacement, so will Randy at CPC. Hope this helps, BNrad
the Clark Custom website is selling barrels taken off conversion guns. P4s blued and stainless.Must be a way to remove the barrel without destroying it.
I bought a 22/45 a few years ago, used at a gun show. It has a 5.5" slab-side bull barrel on it. I do not see that size listed on Rugers web-site. Did they make it that way before or has someone put the gun together from 2 other guns?
GofG is Davidson's website.They are a major Ruger distributor.If you have the cash up front Ruger (and other manufacturers) will make whatever you want.You just have to pay for a 500 piece run before its made.
I appreciate all who took the time to help me out. I love my gun. I put all the volquartesn goodies in it and put a red dot scope on top. It shoots great!
Yes sometime back i posted as to bsquare............very interesting for the aspect of the 22/45 RESEMBLES AND handLES WITH similar regards to my treasured victor high standard.....................with the 22/45, IT IS second to it only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
...just posting to give a report from field testing my suppressor (the finnish one). It worked great! I wasn't alone on the range, so still had to wear ear protection, but thru them i heard a louder noise from the bullet hitting the metal behind the target than from the actual firing of the gun. I'm impressed - and will certainly bring it with me for those times of royal solitude at the range... Any of you guys interested in trying out some finnish workmanship, check out the site www.ouluntyostokeskus.com. Click the english flag to view the site in english. The suppressor costs 32 euros, wich would be approx 30$. Oh yes, b t w - i used CCI mini mags and SV (no subsonics).
Only suppressors made in the USA can be sold here. This is a BATF rule. That is one reason a $30 suppressor will cost $300 in the USA. The manufacturers have so many regulations, licenses, inspections, and restrictions. Plus they know they have a captive market.
Yes, the price is about 30 dollars here, since the dollar is marginally more worth than the euro. It's a real bummer hearing that they are so expensive over there. Here they aren't - neither do they require licenses or controls. On the other hand the process of getting a license for a gun here takes lots of work, bureaucracy and such - not that much money, though. The license costs about 25 dlrs. I can see why the police would want to regulate the possession of suppressors - but they are quite handy for sparing your ears...
I mean, I was not realy looking for one, but if I could get one that required no gun smithing (or any for that matter) modificatioins to my new ruger for $30.... well I would just have to get one...
Just when you thought all could be said, then comes along another interesting topic of ammo reports and disposal...........really love this forum!
Great work guys.....
The stuff I had 5 yrs. ago was underloaded.Made a slight pop and wouldn't cycle the gun.That Lonoke Ark plant has a serious QC problem.I bought a 400 rd brick or Federal American Eaglein 40 rd boxes.It averaged a 10 % underloaded.Not as bad as the Rem stuff.The Winchester I bought at Wally World ran flawlessly.Basically you shouldn't be suprised by a bad brick of ammo.Seems to be happening more frequently these days.
What's the better gun--Ruger 22/45, Browning Buckmark, or Walther P22?
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I'm interested in buying a .22 pistol as my first handgun. I want it for small game hunting and plinking and target practice, basic .22 stuff. Also I'd like something that will give me lots of practice for when I decide to purchase a full-sized handgun, so I'd like something that replicates a full sized auto as closely as possible. Obviously the P22 LOOKS like a full-sized auto, but does it really matter? Also which is the overall better gun??? Any and all opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I have the 22/45 and has served me flawlessly for about 5 years now. I was talking to the people at the gun store where i drool and was asking about the P22. He said dont buy one. They have TONS of trouble with the magazines with Failures to fed and Eject. I think they look great to if you like that kinda things. I like the look better than my 22/45 but mine seems to put little holes in everything i point it at and, that is a good thing.
Out of the guns you mentioned, I have only shot one the 22/45. I am very happy with it. Check out this sight for some of the accessories available. http://www.ontargetguns.com/mark.html
Since I got it I havent shot my Smith & Wesson Model 41.
Rod...
Any of you guys interested in trying out some finnish workmanship, check out the site www.ouluntyostokeskus.com. Click the english flag to view the site in english. The suppressor costs 32 euros, wich would be approx 30$. Oh yes, b t w - i used CCI mini mags and SV (no subsonics).