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St. Mike'sMay 23 2009 at 1:08 AM | Anonymous (no login) |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | May 28 2009, 11:12 AM |
I have heard some rumours that currrent owner is looking for a partner. Any truth to that? If you want to get in the game, I would imagine that this is one of the better teams to be involved with. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | May 28 2009, 2:08 PM |
This team losing big money
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | May 29 2009, 10:01 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 15 2009, 5:03 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 16 2009, 7:37 AM |
they have still not committed. Waiting til camp. Heard they punted both Basso and Lesio and will go with two best school kids at main camp |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 21 2009, 12:25 PM |
they have commited to players under the table |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 21 2009, 1:34 PM |
11 12 who is the current owner i am looking to partner |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 21 2009, 11:26 PM |
St. Mike's College & Buzzer alumus Mike McCaron and his MSM company.
His email and company info are on the website. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 12:00 AM |
Who are the under the table players? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 1:30 AM |
WHO WANTS THEIR KID ON THIS TEAM......IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 10:17 AM |
Who are the players returning to Buzzers team from last season. How many forwards and Defense are they looking for. Is Lessio and Juha playing for sure with Buzzers. I would think they only wuld have committed to these guys for sure no one lese right now |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 10:38 AM |
This talk of "under the table" deals is pure bull.
St. Mike's is a top team every year because they attract some of the best talent available.
Ken Strong is a former Buzzer and a friend of owner Mike McCaron.
If Lessio and/or Juha end up on the team there is no 'under the table deal' or pay-off. It is simply a more direct connection to recruiting some great young players.
This worked out as Strong was happened to be this past year's Marlie minor midget coach.
Whoever came up with the 'under handed mystery' should have his head examined by a psychiatric professional. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 11:50 AM |
St. Mike's has limited players returning from last year. From discussions they have 6 Defensemen returning and committed to and I would think they will need 1 more. And they have 4 forwards returning and committed to and then add the 2 - 1993's one forward and one defenseman, that makes 5 Forwards and 7 Defensemen. Do he math of what is left. 5 forward jobs left and oh yes 1 goalie returning and 1 goalie spot up for grabs. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 5:18 PM |
Other than Juha, can someone please let us know who the 6 D that are returning are if tis is true so we don't waste time and sign on with other clubs if we have to. I was told that only 3 D were coming back and 4 Forwards? and that no D men have been committed to at all |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 5:47 PM |
If you need to come on here to ask info about what is going on, you're fucked. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 7:13 PM |
Is Lessio not signing with Niagra????? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 8:37 PM |
5:47, lmfao!
7:13, it's looking that way. Actually both their names have made it on the Heisenberg Committment list (in a pending state). |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 22 2009, 11:14 PM |
So there are still a few 93 spots available on this team? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 7:33 AM |
both 93 spots are locked up FIO |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 9:46 AM |
This team is losing more and more players to OHL Commitments, so look for many spots to open up by main camp. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 10:05 AM |
Buzzers move more kids to the next level that anyone in Junior A...why...no deals. ZERO. They are one of the few teams that dont make side deals to compete. McCarron would rather lose money than make deals. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 10:22 AM |
We all know thats not completely true but they make fewer than most teams.
They do get the most interest from the ncaa with the exception of wellington.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 10:43 AM |
wow, u really want to start a pissing contest???
who has had more players drafted in the show? both recently and overall?? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 4:46 PM |
Oakville & Georgetown, hands down in the last 5 years |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 5:14 PM |
^ winner, winner, chicken dinner! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 23 2009, 8:08 PM |
wellington by a mile.have a look. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 24 2009, 9:24 AM |
Buzzers drafted to show last five years....Matt Halischuck (RD 3), Andrew Cogliano (RD 1) Louis Caporusso (RD 3), Brendan Smith (RD 1), Brandon Burlon (RD 2), Nik Dagostino (RD 8), Rory Smith (NLL RD 2) and this year Riley Smith WILL be drafted. No one else is close at development to NCAA -OHL and the show! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 24 2009, 10:21 AM |
You are a tool.
NCAA,is what was said above.Do the homework.
Wellington has put more players into the NCAA by far. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 24 2009, 11:19 AM |
Well things may start to change, cant see nay current St. Mikes players being given any NCAA schollys this year, looks like a weak crop |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 24 2009, 11:43 AM |
St. Michael's is not just about hockey. The wording on the front of the area is what they built their tradition on. On the hockey side, they are looking for players with attributes that are necessary to play at the college level. To play in Division 1, you need certain academic standards, otherwise you move down the list. With respect to the team, they do not carry up to 9 - 20 year olds as some centres did (this year 5 max under the new rules). In fact, they do not have any on their roster.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 28 2009, 10:35 PM |
Hey St. Mikes had a player drafted to the NHL from the Buzzers team, Smith what other team did that |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 29 2009, 12:15 AM |
10:35, you're well meaning but thick skulled. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | June 29 2009, 1:01 PM |
Georgetown Jr A , PIRRI in 2nd round |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 4 2009, 1:04 PM |
the candidates for the under agers are in the draft #7 #54 #82 #196 |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 4 2009, 10:51 PM |
1:04
i have heard the same thing |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 13 2009, 12:44 PM |
So whats going on who has made the team? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 17 2009, 12:42 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 17 2009, 2:02 PM |
i don't think so< one is about to sing with Niagara, and the other one is still on a cruise! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 17 2009, 2:08 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 17 2009, 3:09 PM |
No, but he strums a mean wang |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 17 2009, 3:13 PM |
54 has signed and if 82 goes to georgtown then 196 has the spot lessio isnt even in the equation he is signing with niagara |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 3:53 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 1 2009, 7:04 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 4 2009, 7:46 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 9 2009, 10:26 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 10:43 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 1 2009, 7:41 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 22 2009, 12:09 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 22 2009, 9:46 AM |
Lessio is continuing to play the every body wants me game...but will end up in Niagara! Just like Francisco who signed with Sarnia the other day. He had been going to Maine since early in September of last year. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 22 2009, 11:01 AM |
Rasmussen should never have been drafted period |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 22 2009, 11:04 AM |
St. Mike's has not signed any 93's from what I was told. Still waiting on Lessio. Only a handful of returning players have signed |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 22 2009, 6:36 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 22 2009, 6:53 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 24 2009, 12:40 PM |
Lessio and Neville confirmed with St Mikes |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 25 2009, 2:05 PM |
What about the D? Isn't Lansdowne skating with them? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 25 2009, 3:19 PM |
Article on the scout.ca about Lessio...still no committment one way or another according to the article. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 26 2009, 7:48 PM |
Ohhhhhhhhhh well than that makes it official the scout.ca. He is going to St Mikes. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 27 2009, 1:13 PM |
Lansdowne not being signed they are full at D will not take a 93'. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 27 2009, 2:42 PM |
Lessio and Neville, thats it. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 27 2009, 8:32 PM |
2 very good 93 pics one of the best players in the 93 age group and a more underated but hardworking 3rd rounder |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 30 2009, 2:20 PM |
neville is overrated u fuckin cluck |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 30 2009, 5:40 PM |
Buzzers have not signed any defensemen I have that on good authority, everyone is being evaluated at camp so any 93 has a chance to make the team. As for the forwards the only player they will sign is Lessio if he commits other than that no others have signed except 3 veteran forwards and 1 goalie. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 30 2009, 8:45 PM |
5:40. You are sadly mistaken. They have signed a 93 forward and it is not Lessio. Lessio is taking too long to make up his mind and is really pissing of the St. Mike's brass. The longer he holds out the less his chances are. St. Mike's does not beg. He should do the right thing and let his intentions be know. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | July 30 2009, 10:14 PM |
So who are the players that they have signed |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 1 2009, 2:27 AM |
MN is signed. Good, fast forward. He was drafted. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 1 2009, 2:41 PM |
who writes this crap?
verrry average |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 5 2009, 11:51 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 5 2009, 12:18 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 5 2009, 12:33 PM |
with the IceDogs or the Buzzers? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 5 2009, 1:56 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 5 2009, 2:06 PM |
Buzzers, they have finally offered the package he was holding out for. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 5 2009, 2:28 PM |
thx
1:56 - enjoy midget hockey |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 5 2009, 4:12 PM |
whats wrong with midget hockey?
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 6 2009, 10:38 AM |
buzzers don't hand out packages, Lessio is not worth a package, he will be in tough just to be on a 2nd line there. Did not show up to skate last night still playing around and that could be a negative as time continues to go by |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 6 2009, 1:22 PM |
Heard he got the same seal as MR last year. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 7 2009, 10:20 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 7 2009, 6:08 PM |
Lessio signs with Buzzers. The guessing is over. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 7 2009, 10:18 PM |
wow, another "everybody wants me ... plus I'm an OHL 1st rounder so bendover and give me a babe of deal" player.
they usually get their 'just deserves' in the end ala Wes O'Neill, Brendan Smith. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 1:36 AM |
Smith was Detroits first rounder a few years ago, that was his "just deserves"? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 11:51 AM |
If Lessio has signed why is he showing up at the Icedog camp? Is that part of the game? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 6:30 PM |
Smith never played for the national team, unlike fellow Tier 2 grad and Badger team mate Cody Goloubef.
More importantly, he is 1 of 2 unsigned 2007 1st round drafts. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 8:14 PM |
More importantly, he is 1 of 2 unsigned 2007 1st round drafts.
Because he does need to be signed, the Wings have a lot of players under contract, and are not hurting for talent. Why sign someone who is not going to help you right away. Im with the guy above, what a horrible thing to be a 1st rounder. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 9:31 PM |
Because I think there is a rule that you have 2 years to sign a draft pick. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 10:20 PM |
Because I think there is a rule that you have 2 years to sign a draft pick.
Only with OHL Players, NCAA players have 4 years. If your gonna rip on Brendon Smith make sure that its for the right reasons. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 10:47 PM |
True, NCAA players have 4 years to be signed not 2. However BrendAn Smith will never help the Wings.
I never said there was anything wrong with being an NHL 1st round draft pick, to the contrary it is an honour ... unless you don't get signed by age 20, no matter WHERE you were drafted from.
And the POINT was 1st round O players/families who dick their teams, tend to get dicked in the end. Karma really is a female dog.
What no love for O'Neill? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 10:57 PM |
Either way Smith is going to be paid well, Karma is fine there
I have no idea who Wes ONiell is |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 10:59 PM |
no, he missed his big payday.
guess what happens in 2 years? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 11:11 PM |
In 2 years he has a degree and is playing with the Detroit Red Wings??? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 8 2009, 11:23 PM |
maybe on 1st part. ixnay on the 2nd, try Grand Rapids and A 2way $ ... no Gagner or JT 3.5 mil contract here. MacKenzie's hype got him far but ... |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 9 2009, 1:41 AM |
Wow free education and making 15 percent of 895,000 entry level contract, again, karma is bad lmao. We all wish for that kind of karma!
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 9 2009, 11:53 AM |
11 23 jealousy will get you no where |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 9 2009, 10:29 PM |
which cunt is keeping these threads going |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 10 2009, 11:44 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 11 2009, 7:22 AM |
does anyone know how many D this team will sign and have any D been signed so far before camp..is it worth attedning main camp as a D. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 11 2009, 9:41 AM |
will probably sign 6 D, only last years vets signed Widiuk and Barbieri are guaranteed a spot all others open game. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 13 2009, 11:47 AM |
has the lessio kid signed yet, have any other 93 signed? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 13 2009, 12:28 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 13 2009, 7:43 PM |
niagara and the buzzers should not sign him let him play midget hockey |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 13 2009, 7:51 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 18 2009, 9:04 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 19 2009, 6:34 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 19 2009, 9:32 PM |
lessio and nevile done deal so everybody shut it and stop bashing 2 really good players that are both capable of playing D1 hockey |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 19 2009, 11:10 PM |
Nevile = wasted card.
Is Dad involved somehow? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 19 2009, 11:50 PM |
agreed.
Lessio's fine, however I'm surprised the Buzzers couldn't get a better underager (2nd round) assigned to them from the O. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 19 2009, 11:52 PM |
What about the Baloney kid? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 20 2009, 8:04 AM |
the who kid what position does he play. SO far most spots are full , D is pretty much done 1 spot open, one more spot open, F you have 4 returning players, 2 93 F signed and 4 spots to fill from camp. Goalies are done as well |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 21 2009, 2:21 PM |
the kid cant be that bad he was a 3rd rounder waxers vs buzzzers @ st mikes 2nite |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 21 2009, 9:06 PM |
11:50. They need to have at lease 2 93's and he's the best option as he is a forward and can put the puck in the net. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 21 2009, 10:17 PM |
I believe St.Mike's likes to have a certain percentage of their players come from the school. I believe Nelville has been there since grade 7 and has played on their school hockey team every year. If what we read on this site is true and he has a spot on the team then good luck to him. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 21 2009, 10:49 PM |
10:17, ok agreed.
I wasn't aware that he attended the school. Yes, they like to grow and promote their own ala Richard Ryan currently at Notre Dame. This has been going on since the days of Keon, Mahovlich, on to Tanti, Lindros, and to the present. Well done and good luck. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 22 2009, 12:25 PM |
Yeah, but these guys didn't pay $10,000 to go this so call private school.
In hockey these days, money talks.
There will never be a Keon or a Mahovlich because these guys played with there hearts.
Remember, they want L.L. because of Michigan's commitment to him.
St. Mike's wants to say that they development this kid when infact it was the KS of the Marlies for 5 years!!
As for this home-grown 3rd rounder. Erie did even offer him a deal. FACT
Well done St. Mikes!!!!!
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 22 2009, 1:12 PM |
In today's hockey, Keon wouldn't have made it far past
M. Midget. How many players his size do you know of playing Tier 2 or Major, and even if the odd one does get that far, how many get drafted to and actually play steady in the NHL? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 22 2009, 2:05 PM |
hey 12:25,
L.L.is there by choice,.......can you comprehend that?
St.Mike's the "so called private school"....... speakes for itself!!!
Your covetous comments towards a well respected school and 2 fine young men,.......... that also speakes for itself!!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 22 2009, 10:16 PM |
LL is where by choice. He hasn't committed anywhere yet. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 23 2009, 7:07 PM |
Lesio has signed with the Buzzers. If he did not sign they were pulling the offer (and the deal to Michigan) and signing Juha. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 23 2009, 8:46 PM |
He is playing both sides still...playing in exhibition games for St.Mikes and showing up to the Icedogs on Monday. We will all know by Wednesday (the 48 hour rule). He definitely won't jeopardize his scholarship if that is the route he is taking. Juha right now is playing exhibition games with some other team. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 23 2009, 9:28 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 23 2009, 10:01 PM |
Juha signed with burlington |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 23 2009, 10:09 PM |
Landsdowne is skating with St.Michaels buzzers too! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 23 2009, 10:26 PM |
Lansdowne looks good. Paired up with Baloney. They are getting a lot of ice. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 23 2009, 10:38 PM |
oh my lansdowne and beloney maybe beloney was ok but the lansdowne kid especially today was at best horrible, what a poor display and needs to learn how to pass the puck and stop pinching everytime he is on the ice, its jr hockey otherwise midget for 2 years |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 10:25 AM |
only two can sign...i thought neville already signed so did lessio |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 10:39 AM |
the 93 that looked great was the goalie who played Saturday night, boy was he awesome against Markham, now that is how you steal a game for your team. If they have not signed both the 93's their is the diamond in the rough. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 10:52 AM |
the 93 that looked great was the goalie who played Saturday night, boy was he awesome against Markham, now that is how you steal a game for your team. If they have not signed both the 93's their is the diamond in the rough.
yes, he played great, don't know if he was drafted. Ex-marlie goalie. Ignani.(sp) |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 10:57 AM |
just checked, Not drafted.
Goes to show, it is a crap shoot. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 10:42 AM |
there's a loophole where 4 can be signed, however only 2 can dress for a game. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 11:21 AM |
yes you can buy 93 CARD FOR CASH....but not many at all do it especially for a 93 goalie, but yes I agree the kid had a very good game and should be high on the list as an AP and for next season |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 11:24 AM |
93 goalie is the ex marlie who got yanked in the ohl cup when he almost cost them the game which would have knocked them out of the semi final. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 11:29 AM |
if he was that good he would have a spot on a jr team. whatched him last year guess anyone can have one good game, have yet to see him do it twice in a row |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 11:32 AM |
there are brilliant goalies who have consistency issues.
it's nice to see a kid get a shot to find his game. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 12:45 PM |
one game wonder! where did he end up getting drafted? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 1:17 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 1:38 PM |
93 goalie is the ex marlie who got yanked in the ohl cup when he almost cost them the game which would have knocked them out of the semi final.
BULL SHIT IT WAS Coach KS son that almost lost it for the Marlies. He misplayed the puck not once but twice costing the team 2 goals.
AND thats the fuckin truth that no one on the Marlies talks about. KS and his son caused a lot of shit AND thats why he plays for the BULLS(hit), no pund indeed! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 1:58 PM |
The Marlies won the Semi's against York Simcoe like 9-1 what are you guys talking about? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 2:06 PM |
ks son best player on team by a mile, will start in bellville and probably be captain in a years time |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 2:07 PM |
just like a goalies dad to bash the coach and the d for his kids mistakes. i guess all the scouts in ontario missed this goalie right? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 2:14 PM |
the KS basher on this site has just exposed himself ("pun" very much intended).
take a bow goalie dad, you freaken "looser"! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 24 2009, 10:57 PM |
goalie played well on saturday. that my friend was not a fluke. he's a good tender and a great kid. he faced many tough shots from the waxer vets and came up smelling like roses. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 25 2009, 12:29 AM |
His teammates did not think so when he was yanked and went ballistic on the bench at the ohl cup just ask chevy |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 25 2009, 10:44 PM |
chevy is...you figure it out. ai is a good tender. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 6:58 AM |
Ignagni is a very good goalie. He had the deck stacked against him all year with KS and his little agenda. KS was looking for a favour with the Bulls and got it by over playing one of their goalie draft picks. Hopefully the kid can show his ability and it sounds like he is doing it. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 8:32 AM |
I heard and is this true?
KS kid had shit stats last year AND when central scouting (OHL)
came looking for team stats, KS(the best coach ever to mankind) add 35points more.
If this is true, what a fink!!!
Also, did you notice the MANAGER of the Marlies, his KID is a BULLS |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 9:15 AM |
"KS was looking for a favour with the Bulls and got it by over playing one of their goalie draft picks."
The draft was on May 2nd, not a heck of a lot of time to "overplay" an 11th round Subbie.
"KS(the best coach ever to mankind) add 35points more."
Yeah, I'm sure that the sublte addition of 35 points goes unnoticed.
You 2 ass clowns must belong to the same sowing circle, or share the ass. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 10:20 AM |
Lesio has signed and will be a Buzzer for the next two seasons before going to Michigan. The Buzzers have had him skating with the pros and the NCAA guys who skate at the arena in the summer. Almost 20 NHL players and draft picks skate there every day. Between former Michigan alumni MIke Camilerri, Cogliano, Cam Stewart, Caparusso and Burlon they convinced him the the St.MIkes/Michigan route is the best. The Buzz are only team in Tier 2 that could have pulled this off. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 10:55 AM |
why is Cam Stewart no longer the coach? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 11:12 AM |
Didn't have the goods to play in the O anyway, playing against your own age group is alot different then playing against the top players from older age groups. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 11:24 AM |
No fuckin way -- Georgetown can also pull it off.
Hey everyone from St. Mikes -- Start kissing LL and his Dad’s ASS
Have fun with the kid when he has a slump in scoring. Watch you will see. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 11:20 AM |
Ask LL Dad, he will tell the truth about KS kid.
F-you Jackass |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 11:39 AM |
don't be so sure about him sticking around 2 years.
if the Buzzers have another 1st round playoff exit or fail to make the playoffs, you can be sure as shit the LL dad will move his boy.
this isn't the same Buzzer team that Cogliano and Caporusso played for, nor is it the same league. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 11:45 AM |
hey G-Town cracker, what has your team done since the "git her done" campaign? and that ended nicely didn't it? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 1:05 PM |
Yep Buzzers had a bad year last year. Only moved 14 players to the next level. Thats 75 or so the past 5 years. Real bad year!!!! How can you compare Gtown to the Buzz. Thats laughable. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 1:08 PM |
They spelled it 'git er dun' haha! what a bunch of inbred plugs. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 2:07 PM |
"Only moved 14 players to the next level."
Are you actually trying to tell us that they graduated 14 players to either the O or NCAA??? Cuz that's what your arrogant statement implies.
Please list the 14 players who last season alone moved on to the O or the NCAA. This is going to be real fun folks!
Oh, and we don't want to hear about OA's or 19 year olds who moved onto the CIS. This is the normal progression of every junior team including the O and midget/juvenile.
It's pathetic that a St. Mike's supporter has to stoop to misrepresenting the facts. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 5:51 PM |
"You 2 ass clowns must belong to the same sowing circle, or share the ass."
KS favored MS all year long. He also padded his kids stats hugely. Every parent on the team saw it and knows him for what he is. It might be "sewing" instead of "sowing", bonehead. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 7:02 PM |
Here goes nothing....Eric Rubino - Williams, Greg Miller, Nik Dagostino (Pit)
Eric Axell - Cornell, Reilly Smith (Dal) - Miami of Ohio, Mike Rubino, Mark Rubino, Frank Saluturo, Dave Stephens - Hobart, Jeff Brown - Oshawa, Kyle Perriera - Brampton, Terence Reid - Lake Forest, Richard Ricci - Oshawa,
Sorry, thats 13 cause you dont count Tyler Allen - Wilfred Laurier. We do. The kids with school packages that come back from the "O" need to develop to make CIS hockey. Its very good.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 8:41 PM |
Is it ture KS got fired from the Marlies OR is this just another bash! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 26 2009, 11:32 PM |
You should have told the truth the 1st time. Now you're just plain manipulative and shameless!!!
Let's examine your list where St. Mike's "moved 14 players to the next level":
1. Eric Rubino - ok
2. Greg Miller - ok
3. Nick D'Agostino - ok
4. Eric Axell - ok
5. Reilly Smith - ok
6. Mike Rubino - ok
7. Mark Rubino - ok
8. Terrence Reid - ok, however is an 88/OA starting at a div 3 college at 21! & played half his career for Pickering, whooopee!
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9. Dave Stephens - no! another end-of-the-line 88/OA, who must be paying his own way to D-3 Hobart if this is even true.
10. Frank Saluturo - no! which school has offered/he committed to??? r u sure he's leaving??
11. Jeff Brown - NO! he graduated in 07/08!!!
12. Kyle Perriera - NO! ^ditto, u might as well add Casiani, Ryan, L. Oakley, Preston, Potacco, Troiani, Burlon, etc. to your bogus list.
13. Richard Ricci - NO! he's not even a player!!! he was the 07/08 coach & GM before that, he left prior to the 08/09 season for crying out loud. This 1's really low.
14. Tyler Allen - NO! nice try, and r u sure he's done?
These are your words:
"Yep Buzzers had a bad year last year. Only moved 14 players to the next level. Thats 75 or so the past 5 years. Real bad year!!!!"
WOW!, out of your 14, only 8 real players graduated to the next level. You made up 2, lied on 3 previous grads (1 of whom wasn't even a player!) and tossed in an O reject (<--- who may still be with the team).
The sad thing is that 8 grads is a great thing ... but some dickheads have to really pile the BULLSHIT up high. And that 1st PO round exit was really bad for the Central division's flagship Buzzer team regardless of your BS spin. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 27 2009, 9:09 AM |
KS favored MS all year long. He also padded his kids stats hugely. Every parent on the team saw it
> From padding by 35 points we're down to "hugely". "Every parent" is all of you and goalie dad who incessantly bash him anonymously. Given KS's accomplishments last season and in the past, you sir are nothing more than a sniveling coward.
It might be "sewing" instead of "sowing", bonehead.
> you should know, Yenta. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 27 2009, 1:23 PM |
There is a difference between KS accomplishments and his character. Most wouldn't argue about the accomplishments: some would argue about his character. I think the earlier posts are about his character.
As for Axel: Cornell is an Ivy league school. I thought Ivy league schools do not give scholarships. Only based on economic need. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 27 2009, 3:45 PM |
They don't.
In the Ivy League it's called "financial aid". This is another fine example of NCAA eligibility hypocrisy. Just like the "agent" / "advisor" thing, where you CANNOT have the former however the latter is ok, yet in every case the same person performs both roles. If a player goes to the O, the person is known as an "agent". If the player goes to college, then person is known as an "advisor" > suddenly, when the college player signs an NHL/AHL/ECHL contract that "advisor" goes thru a metamorphosis and becomes an "agent" ... and lo & behold he was NHL certified all along.
In the Ivy the vast majority of schollies are NOT 100%, they run in the 30% to 50% range. Hence you have significantly more Canadians on the various ECAC Ivy team rosters than on the WCHA & CCHA D-1 conferences.
In fact 3 Buzzers from last season are heading down to play for the "Big Red" - Axell will be joined by D’Agostino & Miller. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | August 27 2009, 5:41 PM |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1-wmL-Q2M8&feature=related |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 22 2009, 6:38 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 22 2009, 7:04 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 22 2009, 10:41 PM |
This decade - NCAA scholarships for Tier 2. Not including D 3 or OHL. I guess you get what you pay for!!!!! Better that they are up front than making slime ball dirty deals by selling spots, charging for C and A's. Kudos to the Buzzers.
St. Mike's 40
Wexford 26
Milton 22
Aurora 20
Hamilton 20
Oakville 20
Burlington 17
Wellington 15
Brampton 14
Markham 14
Georgetown 13
Stouffville 13
Bowmanville 11
Buffalo 9
Newmarket 9
Pickering 7
Vaughan 7
Cobourg 6
Thornhill 6
Ajax 5
North York 5
Bancroft 4
Bramalea 4
Streetsville 4
Jr. Canadiens 3
Kingston 3
Oswego 3
Couchiching 2
Lindsay 2
Mississauga 2
Orangeville 2
Peterborough 2
Pope Hope 2
Syracuse 2
Trenton 2
Huntsville 1
Seguin 1
Villanova 1
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 23 2009, 9:57 AM |
Kudos to the Buzzers I second that as well, but let's see how well they do the next few years delivering Scholly's, no disprespect , just an opinion, I think maybe 2 or 3 tops from this years class. I may be incorrect as I am still not familiar with many of the players on this new edition of the Buzz, but from some indicators that may be the number. Any positive input would be appreciated |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 25 2009, 1:03 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 25 2009, 7:15 AM |
Dixie tops the list with 41 |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 25 2009, 5:42 PM |
Hey, is lessio gonna go the O route or what? Oshawa sure needs his help. He needs to be the real 1st round pick to go there. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 26 2009, 8:52 AM |
no staying with Buzzers for now. 3 Assists last night |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 26 2009, 9:41 AM |
Yep, he will stay until next season then he will join Oshawa with Biggs. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 26 2009, 9:50 AM |
3 assists? phantom assist on the 1st goal, not the first of these phantoms this year either.
1st real test for the Buzzers, OUCH!!! can you say: spanked?! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 26 2009, 1:52 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 12:13 PM |
Lessio has another 3 pts last night. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 12:25 PM |
And your point? Let's see if he can put up those numbers in the O. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 1:47 PM |
This really shows far apart the level is between major junior and junior A.
In 6 games Lessio has 15 points.
In 5 games Cousins has 5 points.
Cousins is the leading 93 rookie in the O. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 3:56 PM |
and, Lessio is first line power play and first line. It is also about opportunity. Lessio is getting everything right now with regards to ice. So it is actually hard to just go by points. If you had picked Strome to compare Lessio to it would be like comparing apples to oranges. Strome is being brought along slowly by Barrie. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 4:15 PM |
St. Mikes had no choice but to throw Lessio into the fire right away. Who else do they have that comes close to putting up any significant numbers? I'll answer that. No one. Barrie is taking it's time with Strome for a number of reasons, one being that the level of competition is much better in the O. Why shake the kids confidence when they have other horses. Bring him along slowly so that when he learns their system he can contribute. The CCHL is fraught with corruption and that has diluted the level of competition so it's easy to see why a kid like Lessio, who truly is talented is able to do what he is doing. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 5:31 PM |
and the "O"s not diluted it is a joke most teams have hidden agendas just like the Jr A loops, wake up. There are players that have no business being in the O,. Its all about playing and if you are playing in Jr A it will be alot more beneficial than a player riding the bench for the next few years in the "O" as you say they are bringing him along slowly, Yes befoe you know it your OHL career is over and no where to go and you accompished nothing. Go where you are going to play and develop sitting on the bench and watching from the stands in the O not a fun thing trust me bee there done it. Your career comes to and end real quick |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 6:05 PM |
the ohl is the best jr hockey league in the world the nhl have drafted more first round players from the ohl than any other jr league and this year will be no different ya their are a few players who dont belong but i guess after hearing who the leafs are sending down the nhl has its politics to. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 6:13 PM |
5:31, just because Lessio is on the 1st line in T2, you actually believe he is developing there?? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 6:19 PM |
btw, can you inform us of these O team hidden agendas? as in which team and what ulterior motive??
i anxiously await your profound insight! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 28 2009, 11:46 PM |
I guess you better get back to your English class, your use of language is making me dizy. Oh ya by the way speak to R.K and he will be able to enlighten your thirst for knowledge |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 29 2009, 8:50 AM |
11:46, your head hurts after reading 3 short sentences?? what an idiot! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 29 2009, 5:54 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 29 2009, 6:47 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 29 2009, 6:51 PM |
The Buzzers will never be sold, MM will keep this franchise for a very long time and would never entertain any type of a partnership or outright sale, so give your fat head a shake |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 29 2009, 6:55 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 29 2009, 9:39 PM |
There once was a man from Nantucket....who's dick was so long he could suck it! He Said with a grin, as he wiped off his chin....if my ear were a cunt I would fuck it!
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 10:01 AM |
MM is Buzzer owner - Mike McCarron. He is also the guy leading the charge to get the league cleaned up and the number of teams reduced. He is public enemy #1 in the eyes of the OHA. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 10:16 AM |
If I understand your post correctly. He is trying to clean up the legue and is being chastised for that??? WTF? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 10:36 AM |
Ask the OHA! I understand they are very nervouse because MM and his cronies are getting close to the "pot of gold" and the back door deals, cronyism and bad programs that now define the league. His group is making the OHA very nervous! My sense is that they are going to partner with the OHL and ditch the OHA. If they ditch the OHA, the OHA will go the way of the dinosaur. Behind the scenes has been a war. Real ugly. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 1:16 PM |
10:01, if McCarron is trying to reduce the number of teams in the league, why did he allow scumbag organizations like Dixie and Streetsville into his new CCHL league? not to mention badly run bottom feeders like Pickering and Ajax?? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 1:29 PM |
If the CCHL becomes affiliated with the OHL wouldn't that affect NCAAA elegibility? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 2:41 PM |
whoever came up with that was litteraly thinking out loud.
there already is a loose affiliation as all major junior team directly assign some of there 16 year old, sometimes 17 year old, players to nearby junior A or B teams. the OHL club provides a development fee to the T2 team for this service - unlike the NCAA which provides no development funds to teams which have developed a kid for 2 to 5 years. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 11:10 PM |
It was all politics. MM had to bring in the weaker teams to take over the board and eliminate the volunteer executive that has controlled the league for 25 years. Yes, the same idiots for that long. MM needed their votes. With 36 teams you need 18 plus one to control the board. The weakers teams were simply votes. A means to an end! Step 1 in eliminating the OHA. Control the league and the all the dues that are paid to them. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | September 30 2009, 11:39 PM |
Where do they go next (MM and et al) and what does that mean for the players? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 8:23 AM |
and what is the purpose of the player fees? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 8:24 AM |
I hope it means a better place for kids to develop without all the daddies. Should be interesting to watch |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 8:30 AM |
And you think McCarron isn't one of those rich daddy's. His kid is a 94 on the Marlies and is the weakest d-man on the team. Where do you think his kid is going to play next year? Newmarket? Not a chance. His kid will take up a first year spot on the Buzzers, when a more deserving, better skilled player will be screwed out of a spot. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 8:50 AM |
Disagree. Look at 94s buzz protected on AP list this year - Maracantonio, Curcurotto, Finn, Laughton and Mercer. Not his own kid. How many guys u see do that? NEVER. he is one guy that is actually trying to help hockey. Trust me. Not your typical daddy owner. He has been around for a long time |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 9:00 AM |
He and his partners are tired of losing for a long time, that's what the players fees are for.
8:50, you're naive. It's obvious his kid will be on the team. If not next year than the year after for sure.
"The Buzzers will never be sold, MM will keep this franchise for a very long time and would never entertain any type of a partnership or outright sale, so give your fat head a shake."
Once his kid has gone thru the team, watch for the team to be sold or suspend operations. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 9:00 AM |
8:50. You seem to be in the know. The only kid I've heard about on that list is Carcaruto and this kid is the real deal. He can play with the big boys. With some proper development he will be a force in the future. Good to hear that McCaron is doing the right thing by giving deserving kids a shot at Jr. If his kid deserves a spot he will get one. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 9:08 AM |
They got some high end talent there! will they every play |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 9:12 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 11:20 PM |
how many goals and assists did Lessio get tonite? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 11:24 PM |
Why does he have to carry the team every night, the team had a bad game so your point is what. Just one of those night you want to forget, but Oh ya your kid has never had one. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 1 2009, 11:34 PM |
hey vagenius, someone has been pimping him after he puts a few - go see
September 28 2009, 12:13 PM and September 26 2009, 8:52 AM
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 2 2009, 11:18 PM |
1 G - 1 A 2nd star tonight happy now |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 3 2009, 10:05 AM |
he should stay with the Buzzers. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 7:17 AM |
This post was on the those JR A Boards, but I guess you can\t post on them unless your a approved member.
Hey PM
October 6 2009, 6:25 PM
You obviously don't know your Buzzguys.
I am not, and will never be, just a hapless fan who can't see anything wrong with his team. I have loved watching the Buzzers in recent years and I continue to go to the games ... but I'm not so stupid as to think they're doing just fine out there on the ice.
Sure they have a really professional face, and with all the media stuff they do ... and promoting the face of a developmental league ... they still look great. But I have watched their on ice product deteriorate considerably. And this year's group looks very, very weak. I know there is a strong committment to the school ... but honestly, if you look at the website and see the 10 players that are also students you'll see names of people who are far from stellar.
I watched the tryouts in the spring, I talked to players parents, and I know of kids who wanted onto this team because of its reputation at being a good start towards the NCAA. But it seems they really don't manage their player opportunities well. If you look at the list of kids they have brought in out of midget in the past few years ... well its an extremely short list. For a so-called developmental team ... where is the list of developed players on the team this year? Why did Witiuk leave the team this year? He was easily as good as some of the older guys they've picked up ... and they could have worked more with him for a year or two more.
You can call me negative all you want ... but I will call it as I see it. They could do a lot more to handle their ice product better. They are still floundering with there AP group this year ... when Riley Smith first came here two years ago there was such a handful of on ice talent that even here barely got played. He is a bonafide future NHLer.
What's up? Coaching changes? Poor communication with parents? Sure if you are Lucas Lessio's father they'll talk with you ... but after that? I just think everyone puts on a good face when in fact the on ice product is sub-Buzz standard.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 9:47 AM |
The Buzzguy sounds like he has a good handle on the team.
I watched them blow a 3 nothing lead at the half way point against Hamilton, to lose 6-3.
I also watched them go into the 3rd with 3 all tie against the JRC only to lose 6-4.
They have a terrible D and at best, average goaltending. In both these games they got out-worked and glaringly out-coached, especially against the Red Wings.
A premiere team hiring a head coach with no experience at this level is mind boggling. I can see why this Witiuk kid left - why pay $2K to join a mid-pack team headed in the wrong direction. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 10:22 AM |
Witiuk kid did not leave he was asked to leave. He should never had been on the team last season and I know that on very good inside authority and lets just eave it at that. I have followed the Buzzers for many, many years a bit longer than the Buzzguy and yes you make good points but the team has agreed to go in the direction they are, very young and inexperienced, yes it will be for a very long year, but please guys do not make such ridiculous comments as above. The team is lacking experience and basically is a one line team that have accumulated much of the points after that it really goes to nil. But, the team will be fine the players are aware of the plan the staff and owner has put in place and such is life. But please between the Buzzguy and the above poster get your facts straight before you yap off. I will not even waste my energies to reply to the Buzzguy on the other forum as it is a complete waste of time. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 10:36 AM |
You throw out an olive branch, but then tell me to not "yap off"?
What's so "ridiculous" about suggesting that Witiuk or any other player having to pay $1,800 is absurd.
You're really just inviting scathing criticism when you say someone makes good points then essentially tell them to phuk off.
Perhaps you should follow through on the affable approach to diffuse the situation? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 10:39 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 12:59 PM |
Witiuk would be the #1 D on the Buzzers, he made the team because he is an elite D and should be on the Buzzers. I stand by my position and they should have not cut an past player who was able to play with a very strong pool of players last season and good for Vaughan for adding a developed player to their roster |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 4:29 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 4:35 PM |
Someone has an axe to grind. Seen this kid play, he's good and as it stands would definately be no worse than thier 3rd D-man on any given night. In reality though he would be thier #1 as the team stands. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 5:20 PM |
yes I agree this kid is far more superior than any current D on the Buzzers right now |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 8:52 PM |
12:59/Buzzguy, welcome, keep us up-to-date on the Buzzers.
10:22, why don't you enlighten us on this master plan. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 9:08 PM |
Buzzguy is the Buzzer expert why not ask him about the plan |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 7 2009, 9:49 PM |
Buzzguy didn't bring it up, sparky. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 8 2009, 9:57 AM |
I think the person was referring to Buzzguy to possibly explain the Buzzers plan this season, if he is close to the situation he may have some factual information as to the reasoning behind the Buzzers decisions and player personnel this season. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 8 2009, 6:36 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 8 2009, 6:37 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 8 2009, 10:42 PM |
Is Lessio the only player that can do anything on this team, go to the shwa what are you waiting for, your going to the show anyway, the heck with Michigan and their 30 game schedule and the season is over. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 8 2009, 11:38 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 8 2009, 11:40 PM |
The Buzzers lose their 3rd in a row.
SOG 41 - 19 in favour of Newmarket.
Lessio with 1 goal & 1 assist.
You're right 10:42, he should be saying: adios muchachos!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 12:05 AM |
Most of his goals are on the PP, if not for the Buzz PP line they would have maybe a handful of goals so far. Just can t score 5 on 5. They need to use a pressure attach , they have absolutely no forecheck, and defensively they are allowing the forwards to walk in, looks like its a set structure but it aint working boys. To many odd man breaks, no backchecking , tonight they had forwards cruising around the blue line and centre while the puck was in the defensive zones, the Lessio kid is a great player but absolutely no back checking or comes into his own blueline. The goalie Delia was very good tonight except for maybe one goal he had a great game |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 12:15 AM |
weak veterans + inexperienced youth + inept coach = cash & burn. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 12:19 AM |
freudian slip, that should be: crash & burn ... that player fee is a cash & burn. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 12:32 AM |
sorry to sound dismal but this team has one line that can score, majority of goals are PP, look at point production, same group of players. This was never the case in past years, I guess we were spoiled with Dips behind the bench and teams in the mid 2000's. Hopefully the Buzz can put it together and the coaches can get more out of the team and get some secondary production. It is too bad there are no vets that have been able to step it up, it's a difficult situation when your 16 year old rookie is your leader both in points and on the ice. Let's go Buzz, we haven't given up yet. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 12:33 AM |
what player fee are you referring to |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 12:55 PM |
I'd really love to hear about this "plan".
The kids have agreed to be patient, but not masochistic.
Unless there are major changes don't expect any improvement this year, next year, or the year after that when Lessio's gone (if he even lasts that long). |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 3:33 PM |
Lessio is a one ear deal. Hes not being challenged at all. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 4:09 PM |
He has no forwards to play with and the players that could have helped him out were either let go or not even invited to the Buzz from my understanding. For instance look at Witiuk a full time player last season was let go and now he is flourishing with the Vipers and could have been a top D helping the Buzz put some wins up. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 10:47 AM |
Inexperienced head coach that has no hockey knowledge and which will be a detriment to the development of all the players. Practices are poorly organized with a narrow focus on a small group of players versus the team in whole.
20 year old forward has 0 points so far and plays on the powerplay. Last year managed 8 points in 34 games.
There is more skill on this team than what has been in evidence todate. The head coach is inept, bottom line. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 7:11 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 9 2009, 11:24 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 11:11 AM |
When is this fiasco going to stop? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 11:16 AM |
Coach is not a bad guy, just very inexperienced and has no depth to work with unfortunately it was not his doing to choose the team. Veterans that were chosen just not able to compete and you cannot rely on rookies to lead a Jr A team. The same old players competing every game, same players getting the points, not much production after their top 5 point getters. Don't blame the coaches or the players, this goes right up to the management that should be addressed. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 12:10 PM |
After manager's son left for greener pastures (Michigan, then NHL) this team has been on a steady decline. Goes to show you were the loyalty is. Next year they will be better as owner's son and ex-Leaf son will be on the team. The management will make a concerted effort to recruit strong players to play with them. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 12:24 PM |
Won't be so easy to recruit players especially if they run the team the same way they have so far, just no direction, no interest and to make matters worse they have charged a fee to play with no perks to the players as in the past years. Don't blame the coaching staff, they have inherited this mess and don't be surprised if of few on their top players are on the move, look for LL to be a Gen real soon. Oh yes owners kid and close friend on the team, not a plus for any players to be over enthusiastic to come on board. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 12:29 PM |
What a disgrace. One of the most storied and respected teams in all of Jr. A has taken the same me-first approach as the lesser known teams. They are running this team like a GMHL team. Maybe they should move to that "league". |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 1:24 PM |
If the coach is inexperienced, he shouldn't be coaching at this level. Kids are trying to move on to the next level and inexperienced coaching will not help. Call-up the roster and do the math on +/-. Go watch the game and then you'll figure it out. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 1:58 PM |
I would not put to much bearing on the Plus/Minus stats taken in the Central it is terribly tract and most teams just put numbers at random. I would look at the point production 4 or 5 players with most of the points then the rest just drop off badly. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 2:36 PM |
Then look on 5 on 5 points after taking away the power play points and it gets even more dismal !
There in lies the problem, scoring without the man advantage 5 on 5. Too many chosen ones on this team that take undisciplined penalties and no consequences. PK ranked 15/21 which suggests they cannot afford to take these type of penalties. Newmarket won 5 - 3, scoroing 4 powerplay goals and could have been alot more except for the fact their goalie played very well. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 7:35 PM |
I play pick-up at St. Mike's once a week just after the Buzzers practice. I get there early and like to catch about a half hour or so of their practice.
This new coach, DePellegrin, does seem like a genuinely nice person however is very inexperienced. The Deeps, then Ricci, then Stewart practices are almost night-n-day different from what they're doing now. Not to mention that Ricci especially would skate the guys to death. They're doing the simpler flow drills and even those are not done properly. There are kids that can't execute at a high pace; most passes are in players' skates or well wide. Compared to years past, there are many weak skaters out there.
I have to agree with others who are saying that this is a poor team with a bleak future. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 10 2009, 8:53 PM |
The league is different from last year, so comparing to past years is like comparing apples to oranges. Major changes this year with the 21 teams in the CCHL is to limit 20 year old to 5 roster spots. Prior to last year some teams had the max 9 roster spots taken by 20 year olds. Higher percentage of 19 & 18 year olds. As a result, the team is younger and the intent is to develop the younger players versus the major midget programs. St. Michael's has 3 20 year olds on their roster at present. Last year many teams did not play their '92 birth year whereas the '93 birth year players - 2 roster spots are getting more than their fair share of icetime. Again, with focus on development all of the foregoing makes sense.
As for drills and working on fundamentals, previous poster is right, they could be better but that is usually where the head coach comes into play.
There is more talent on the team that is showing up on the radar screen,however, confidence appears low which is another weakness of the head coach who does not have the knowledge to teach the kids the proper skills. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 11 2009, 11:32 PM |
Lessio another 2 G and a helper tonight, St. Mike's defeats the Orangeville Crushers, 5-2. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 13 2009, 7:06 PM |
Saw this post on another site by the poster called Buzzguy
I disagree ... October 13 2009, 6:45 PM
Wayne Lewis is correct ... I have been a dedicated supporter of the team for a few years now. And IT IS fair for me to speak about the malaise on the ice.
M71 says ... "Percentages of players from St. Michael's College School. Your information is not at all accurate. There is no percentage targets for the number of players attending the school. We do use the school as one of many critera in assessing players but in no way would a superior player be passed over in favor of a lesser player from the school. That doesn't make sense."
I know for a fact that there were other very good players (with great skills and 'resumes' to prove it) who tried out for this team this year and who were serious about coming here ... yet one of the two 93s taken is a student from the school who has had very little to show in terms of past successes. The Buzzers had at least 5 players from the Ontario Championship Minor Midget Marlie team who wanted to come here. They have committed only to Lessio. The players who were passed over were taken by other teams and are already high up in the stats columns. One of them was a very good defenseman who had 11 assists last time I looked. Boy could the Buzz use a decent defenceman right now! And a '93!
M71 ... don't tell me that the Buzz wouldn't pass over a superior player in favour of a lesser school player. They did it this year. I know from the parents themselves that they wanted to be here. The Buzz is riding a great reputation, but they'll lose it if they have a few more years like last year. And this year is looking worse than last.
I remember a few years ago when they had an excellent team ... that there was better than a handful of rookie players willing to sit out on the fringe to await their turn. Somehow the Buzz were able to keep their interest and faith ... but I get no sense that there is any effort (ability???) this year to keep talent around to await their turn. Last I heard there are no 93s signed to an AP card.
Its a developmental league that McCarron himself fought for ... yet his own team seems to be floundering in that department.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 13 2009, 10:49 PM |
oh really , well I hae been around the Buzzers much longer than this Buzzguy and I have an opinion, the Buzzguy should stay home instead of wasting valuable space at the Buzz dome. Oh yes Mr Buzzguy I would reply to your waste of posts on the other site but cannot get on it. Otherwise if you could pass on your email that would work as well |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 13 2009, 11:50 PM |
Buzzers win 4-3 tonight close game Vs UCHC, on the score board Buzzers dominated much of the play, even with the amount of Penalties they received. Lessio 1 G tonight, Buzzer Goalie played well, too many defensive breakdowns in the 3rd need to win battles in the late stages of a game, but a win is a win for the Buzz. Good Luck tomorrow and Friday can't make the game will be away for a reunion, back on Sunday, for what should be a great tilt Vs Toronto. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 6:51 AM |
Hey Buzzguy, Buzzman, or Buzzhead whatever your name is. How are you so privy to all the Buzzers going ons and if so you are totally being mislead and have no idea what you are talking about. Which 93 was such a phenom that should have been taken over the current 2 - 93's. Seems to me all the rook's on this team are playing and given ample leadership duties so what the heck id your beef. Your suggestion that even in the past rook's were not played and scratched well wrong again, name the many rook's that sat in the past in the stands (non injured or course), and how many top players that the Buzzers have passed by , based on your suggestions. I understand you are entitled to your opinions but do your homework other than speaking to disgrunted parents. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 7:16 AM |
The Buzzers are only allowed two 1993's - they got a first rounder and a third rounder. Both had options to sign in the 0 and did not. By the way...Buzzguy is the real creepy looking guy that sits behind the Buzzer bench with is faggot boyfriend. He has been banned from the rink before for causing trouble. He is upset because Witiuk got traded. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 8:41 AM |
If he dislikes the Witiuk trade why is he blaming it on the 93's? The 93's are both forwards; not D. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 12:52 PM |
It's not the 93's to blame it is the 92 that was brought in to take the spot light on the back end. They were not going to keep a better 92 D man to compete with the golden boy. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 1:04 PM |
Witiuk would have been the top D on the team and they didn't want that and to make matters worse they gave the D that Witiuk beat out for a spot last season an Alternative Captain, explain that to the above posters who appealed my comments about the 93s and rookies. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 1:19 PM |
Hey buzzguy if this is you writing this, there are no golden boys on the Buzzer team and not sure what you are referring to about the 92 D brought in. There are a few 92's , if you are referring to the Joe Luongo boy he seems to be doing a fine job on the backend and from my perspective and that of others close to the team, they have all said the kid is a great down to earth kid with no agendas and a team player which is why the staff gave the chap an Alternative Captain designation. If you have any other inside information that we are not privy to then please share it with us, otherwise do not designate fictional qualities of a 16 year old as mentioned. As for the 93's on the team both are well deserving of their spots and will be very successful Buzzers for years to come. I too have been around for more than 4 years and yes this is not one of the better Buzzer teams, but saying that their is no need for your continues rants and put downs of these young athletes. Forget the past and move on. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 1:54 PM |
I agree with above guy, this years Buzz team is about youth and development and all the kids are good quality players on and off the ice from what I can see, so I personally would refrain from making any harsh statements about 16 year olds or for that matter any young athletes. We are all sure that the coaching staff made their selections based on certain criteria and whether we like it or not we all have to live with it, not all decisions are correct or incorrect, but they lie within every organization in minor hockey from house league to the pro level. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 4:34 PM |
Looks like another Buzzer is starting to emerge as a scorer for the team. Of late A. Rizzo has started to find the twine and yesterday added 2 G to be amongst the leaders in pts on the team. If the St. Mike's team is to be successful this season they will need to get much needed secondary scoring from their 2nd and 3rd lines and with the already Stellar performance of Lessio and Ciampini, Rizzo is slowly becoming another scoring threat for the team. Great job Rizzo and keep up the hard work and go Buzzers. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 14 2009, 5:25 PM |
1:19/1:54 nice to see you agree with yourself. lmao!
scroll back 2 pages, on Oct. 13 and prior, and you'll find over a dozen posts from different people (for real, unlike you!) giving us the real goods.
keep that faux development sales puffery you're pimping in your bong and toke it. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 15 2009, 9:46 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 15 2009, 10:46 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 15 2009, 11:12 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 15 2009, 11:23 PM |
how many goals and assists for Lessio against bottom feeder Dixie? did they win? where's the Buzz pom pom girl?? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 16 2009, 1:22 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 16 2009, 3:52 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 16 2009, 2:03 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 16 2009, 2:58 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 16 2009, 4:51 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 16 2009, 8:44 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 17 2009, 12:59 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 8:55 AM |
where's the Buzzers' pom pom girl? no score from yesterday? no Lessio scoring recap? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 9:09 AM |
Where is Lucas? Did not play the last 2 games. Flu? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 12:59 PM |
Yes. Where is the Chosen One? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 1:38 PM |
Lessio has the flu and as a matter of fact is the chosen one, have you not seen the stats of late or been to a game, if not then leave the kid alone, he is a damn good hockey player and major part of this teams success alongside Ciampini and Beamish. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 1:46 PM |
Relax 1:38. I was just asking where he was. Never said anything negative. It seemed strange that he missed 2 games as he is the teams fire-power. Sheesh. Can't a guy ask questions any more without being accused of alterior motives? Some of you guys are too sensitive. You act like a bunch of old hens. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 1:46 PM |
What success???
Aren't they close to last place?? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 2:22 PM |
Without him they would be in the negatives for points, thats how bad they are. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 2:29 PM |
As good as he is. He needs a good coach to teach him some discipline. Isn't that in St. Mike's motto (teach me discipline...)? He needs to cut down on the brain fart penalties. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 3:24 PM |
1:46pm I don't think that rant was towards you, your question is quite valid, the rant was towards the guy who called Lessio the chosen one, that is childish. As for the penalties what penalties does Lessio take that are not common with other players out there, what does the coach have to do with the penalties and what is wrong with the guy trying to step it up and keep the team motivated |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 5:53 PM |
3:24, re: Lessio's penalties you are full of it again.
The previous poster is absolutely correct. Many of his penalties are occurring in the last 5 minutes of the game. If it happens once fine, when it happens 3 times then there's a big discipline - the poster is spot on. And yes a REAL COACH is necessary!
Please don't keep feeding us this "young athlete" sales fluff. The team is weak and bad. period. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 19 2009, 10:18 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 20 2009, 12:46 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 20 2009, 2:13 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 22 2009, 8:39 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 22 2009, 2:22 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 22 2009, 8:54 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 22 2009, 10:44 PM |
another 3 points tonight for Lessio |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 23 2009, 1:16 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 23 2009, 12:42 PM |
Don't you keep hearing on all media sites, "the best developmental league in the world is the OHL." |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 23 2009, 10:45 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 23 2009, 11:18 PM |
Oh Well guys sorry but Lessio 1G-3A tonight, and 1st star of the game. Buzzers win 6-5, this kid is the real deal |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 1:08 AM |
Lessio is the real deal. Just like the rest of the guys who have come through the Buzzer -Wolverine pipeline...Cogliano, Caparusso, Burlon, Lessio and next year Marcantonio.(94 Marlies) All these kids will make money playing hockey. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 12:24 PM |
What would the Buzzers be without Lessio right now? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 1:10 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 2:33 PM |
Easy guys its tier 2 if you are going to play in ohl you better be lighting it up there, its light years from ohl |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 2:41 PM |
Look guys why all the bashing of the successfull kids.This kid is a good kid that comes from a nice family and is a very good hockey player.He will not always get 3 or 4 points a game but in the big picture is a great player .Why do some of you wait for these successfull kids to have a off game and then come on here a spew about them.Relax if these kids weren't that good the bashers wouldn't be on here trying to criticize. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 2:57 PM |
I think the problem is some people find it necessary to come here and report goals and points and tell everyone how great he is. He is obviously a very good player, a first round pick ! But dont get confused with tier2 and OHL. Leave the kid alone let him play and stop comming here to justify him playing tier 2. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 3:00 PM |
I completely disagree. There are kids playing unbelievably well in Tier 2 and in the O, and don't come in here and promote and still get bashed.Its all about the Jealousy.Nothing else Period. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 3:05 PM |
And I do believe that alot of the bigger name kids are that because of the bashing on this site.I believe that the people reading all this the see all the kids being bashed as the better players in the loop. No question.The bashers think their bringing the kids down when in fact they are the ones pimping and promoting them by their bashing. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 24 2009, 11:01 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 25 2009, 8:50 PM |
"Oh Well guys sorry but Lessio 1G-3A tonight, and 1st star of the game. Buzzers win 6-5, this kid is the real deal"
hey buzz pom pom girl, you forgot to mention that they blew a 4 nothing lead in the 1st.
speaking of meltdowns, how did they lose today against a messed up Ranger team? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 25 2009, 10:29 PM |
And whos fault would that be, blaming lessio or forwards for that come on get real, defense has to get the job done as well. When you give your team a 4-0 lead you have to be able to shut teams down, forwards can't do it all. Who cares anyway a win is a win and the Buzzers won the game, over a strong offensive team. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 25 2009, 10:57 PM |
This team needs some D. There are 2 D from the 93 age group that should be AP'ing and helping that they have not signed. They were a great tandem in the pre-season. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 25 2009, 10:58 PM |
"When you give your team a 4-0 lead you have to be able to shut teams down, forwards can't do it all."
Shuting down the opposition and playing defensively requires all 5 skaters on the ice. You are a complete moron.
"Who cares anyway a win is a win and the Buzzers won the game, over a strong offensive team."
Which team, Streetsville or North York, is a "strong offensive" powerhouse??
http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/standings.html?leagueid=878&seasonid=4693
You must be confusing them with Burlington or the JRC...yep, you're a very confused moron!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 25 2009, 10:59 PM |
Should have never got rid of the 2 D they had |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 26 2009, 8:18 AM |
Who are the 2 - 93 D you are referring to. Did anyone come watch the last few two games, well then if you did you will see that it was not only the D that was the problem, but the lack of back checking and picking up shooters in the slot area are not the responsibility of the D and let's face it 1st goal and overtime goal yesterday were misfortune goals for the goalie, otherwise the game was the Buzzers to win not lose, but YES, its part of the game. Buzzers will be fine they are a very young team building fondations for the years to come. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 27 2009, 8:54 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 27 2009, 9:01 AM |
I heard Lessio will be out of the line up now for few weeks he is going to that Jr A Team Canada tournament, is this the case? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 27 2009, 12:55 PM |
What is a Jr.A Team Canada tournament? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 27 2009, 1:02 PM |
it's a pseudo national event for T2. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 28 2009, 4:55 PM |
Cool! When and where does it take place? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 28 2009, 11:26 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 29 2009, 9:17 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 30 2009, 1:42 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 30 2009, 1:56 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | October 30 2009, 3:24 PM |
Sure he is.Plays like j McFarland, sits on the blueline waiting for a pass and lets everyone else do the grunt work then gets all the praise and glory!what a joke!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 1 2009, 2:32 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 1 2009, 8:34 PM |
Dan Ciampini is the man on this team he does it all. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 1 2009, 8:49 PM |
nice to see that this team has an identity without Lessio. they're doing very well without him. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 2 2009, 4:56 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 2 2009, 7:58 PM |
I would not get to ahead of the game , Lessio is a huge part of this team and any future success. The team is now finally getting some offense going, but still lots of work ahead to grab a decent play-off spot. The Buzz still need too get consistant defense and goaltending. Even in the wins they still having difficulties in the defensice zones, but as long as they can continue scoring and producing offence and get solid goaltending then you will see this team in the 5th, 6th spot and then anything goes in the play-offs. Never count out the Buzzers, you piss in their cornflakes, they just get better and better just their way of proving a point. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 2 2009, 10:30 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 3 2009, 7:13 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 3 2009, 8:08 AM |
Did not realize Lessio was almost a 1992 so he should be dominating .
Not sure if he is injured but if he is not he has not done much at the WORLD JUNIUORS ?
With St . Mikes he should have a lot of points as he lives on the ice which helped him but probably hurt the team and other lines . Good player but ST. Mikes will need to work him back into line up without upsetting the chemistry they now have.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 3 2009, 9:11 AM |
Let's just say there wasn't a lot of love lost from his team mates before. It will be up to Lessio to ingratiate himself back into the team. And who's getting ahead of themselves? - this is an 8th place team, maybe 7th. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 3 2009, 10:12 AM |
Lessio once back in the line up will be back on the top line and getting his top line icetime, guaranteed. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 5 2009, 9:11 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 5 2009, 2:16 PM |
Of course he will come back and get his ice time. There had to be a deal for him to go to St.Mike's instead of the O! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 5 2009, 3:17 PM |
Sure he is.Plays like j McFarland, sits on the blueline waiting for a pass and lets everyone else do the grunt work then gets all the praise and glory!what a joke!!
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When you don't have the BEST first 3 steps in North America.....
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 5 2009, 4:05 PM |
For all the points Lessio has, why is his PLUS/MINUS crappy??
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 12:09 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 6:55 AM |
Plus/Minus stats in the CCHL are horribly mainatained, they are not done by a true stats person and at the end of each game the operator cannot close out his/her pointstreak shhet without the the plus/minus login, thus more often thatn not they juts randomly choose players numbers. If you like at many of the games I mean many, you will see that the player numbers do not line up, you have the player that scored not even as a plus, you have 5 forwards or 5 Defensman on for a goal against or for etc. Do not use the Plus/Minus as any type of indicator as it is extremely misleading and it should not be incorporated into the stats unless done properly by a true stats person from the stand and not a parent from each club. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 6:57 AM |
So you are telling me that Lessio has alot of phatom points RIGHT |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 10:15 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 10:19 AM |
Buzz added to good players from school this week - Mike Hawkrigg and Mike Capicotta. Not sure how they got them but they will help team big time. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 11:02 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 11:30 AM |
the other 93 on the buzzers is doing brutal the buzz shouldve took juha insteadd |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 11:48 AM |
My understanding is they look school kid over non school kid. Thats the way program is run. I dont get it but it appears to work for them. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 12:07 PM |
also draft status nevile was a 3rd rounder juha 5th rounder
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 1:01 PM |
Have they played any of thier AP's yet? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 1:13 PM |
Play APs?
Are you nuts, Coach Lessio will not allow it!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 2:17 PM |
Lessio's team mates can't stand him. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 3:32 PM |
Why, he is the next coming of NASH.
It is nice to see that St. Mike's is developing this Maga Superstar Team Player.
Too bad St. Mike's will finish 2nd last this year, WATCH! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 6 2009, 3:51 PM |
St. Mikes promised a number of kids that they would sign them as AP's and to date have not followed through on those promises. Hopefully the parents of those kids wake up and find other teams for thier kids to AP with or just stick to Midget and move on. Way to “Teach me Goodness, Discipline, and Knowledge” ...What a joke this Organization has turned out to be this year. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 7 2009, 12:03 AM |
ya juha was just awesome in burlington when buzzers handed it to them...lol |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 7 2009, 12:06 AM |
The 2nd coming of Nash turned out to be 2nd coming of Bohonos. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 7 2009, 11:06 AM |
And just to think, St. Mike's had a chance to keep Rodrigues(Georgetown 20 points in 20 games)
BUT they kept Neville with 7 points in 17 games
Neville did nothing in MinorMidget compare to Rodrigues
Thanks for speaking out and supporting your Marlie team-mate DADDY LESSIO (the one-man-show kid) |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 7 2009, 8:01 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 8 2009, 9:35 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 8 2009, 9:35 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 8 2009, 5:13 PM |
Hey Everyone, Superstar is come home with a 4th place GOLD MEDAL.
Way to go!!
Stop wasting your time and go to the OHL,
then you can show us how you play like NASH. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 8 2009, 11:03 PM |
Waxers just too strong for a slowly improving Buzzer team. Some good recent trades should keep them at the mid point of the standings. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 9 2009, 6:39 AM |
Thanks Cap, but Lessio will be back in the line up this week and you are correct the Buzzers are slowly improving. The team needs to get their act together defensively and between the pipes. They also need to get the PP back on track and hopefully with Less back in the lineup they can be even stronger now. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 9 2009, 8:21 AM |
LMFAO!!!yea thats it..now the team is saved... |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 9 2009, 9:03 AM |
"with Less back in the lineup they can be even stronger now."
Yeah, he really torched last week's tournament. Welcome back to the super midget league. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 9 2009, 11:59 AM |
Can we refer Less as NASH for know on. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 9 2009, 12:29 PM |
What they really need is Help on the back-end. They have a few emerging stars that have been finding the back of the net. They have proven that they can score without Lessio. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 9 2009, 3:46 PM |
....without NASH
Get right!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 13 2009, 9:59 AM |
Does Lessio go to school at St. Michael's? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 13 2009, 10:21 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 13 2009, 10:47 PM |
He goes to Michigan High, commutes in his private jet.
With all the sick leave at work, Daddy got his pilot license.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 16 2009, 7:05 AM |
Anyone at the game last night. What happened to Capicatto, he got a 2 plus 2 think it was and a 5 min gm54, what did he do. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 16 2009, 9:57 AM |
St. Michaels - Michael Capicotto - (Slashing) (SL), 2 min, 6:06
St. Michaels - Michael Capicotto - (Cross Checking Major) (CC), 5 min, 6:06
St. Michaels - Michael Capicotto - (Cross Checking Game Misconduct) (GM54), 0 min, 6:06
i wasn't at the game. judging from the penalties, it seems like he rough housed with a Welly player or 2, then applied his stick to someone's head. fortunately for him a cross checking match penalty does not come with a suspension (if i recall the junior rule correctly).
anyone notice that the Lessio cheer leader has gone into hiding? lmao! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 16 2009, 4:17 PM |
2 minutes for 2 handing the kid across the ankle and 5 mins for cross checkin a kid to the face that was wearing a visor more importantly LL wasnt even on the first line these coaches are fukd |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 16 2009, 5:13 PM |
"wasnt on the first line" that terrible, call the cops! LOL!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 16 2009, 5:30 PM |
"more importantly LL wasnt even on the first line these coaches are fukd"
Most obviously. It's as clear as the nose on your face. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 16 2009, 9:19 PM |
Take it easy. The kid is slumping so they moved him to another line. Less pressure means he doesn't hold the stick so tight and finds his game. Sounds like the coaches know what they're doing. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 16 2009, 10:29 PM |
The Kid is a hog, a one-man show.
Just wait when things don't right for LL.
Daddy, I want to go to Oshawa, f-Michigan!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 17 2009, 4:45 AM |
Unless Cam Stewart has taken over as the head coach, there is no learning opportunity. They are volunteers with no experience and do not have the knowledge to develop elite athletes whoever they may be. St. Mikes has more indivdual talent which is getting them over the hump for the time being. It's not about LL, or any other player on the team, they simply do not have the knowledge to coach at this level.
There are kids on this team who can contribute more, however, do not always get the chance under the current regime. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 17 2009, 8:57 AM |
Daddy, I want to go to Oshawa, f-Michigan!!!!
he may not even have the grades for Michigan. apparently he does not attend St. Mike's like his role model Cogliano did. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 17 2009, 9:30 AM |
4am guy,
Interesting read. Here's what it sounds like: Your son is being treated as a middle of the road player. The boy probably is doing fine but you want him to get more 'special' ice (probably PP). It sounds like you think you know more about hockey than you do. (Probably a relative is more involved with hockey than you and you ride his coat tails).
'Elite' is a strong word. There aren't many elite players around yet you throw the concept out there as if the team is full of elite players. This just isn't real. No junior team around here can be considered elite.
The hockey in OHA is very watered down. Be glad your son is still playing organized hockey. Let it be. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 17 2009, 6:24 PM |
yes watered down especially the Buzzers team, looks like only 4 players will receive NCAA schooly's this season...A REAL DISASTER FOLKS, now tell me what other team will have at least 4 NCAA commitments by years end. I would gather that the Buzzers hav something going their way. 2 players have already received full commitments and tewo others will be making commitments by the end of this month. BUZZERS have no talent, just a terrible team LOL....Congrats Beamer, best of luck to a great kid and athlete |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 17 2009, 9:17 PM |
6:24, no need for the sarcastic pretentiousness. we'll see by the end of the year. what happened last year?
last year 12 Wellington players received NCAA shollies to St. Mike's 8, and they also advanced 4 players to the OHL to St. Mike's zero. Welly didn't get smoked in the 1st round of the playoffs like St. Mike's did either.
all your arrogant posturing aside, for a team that won the South division 4 years in a row, back-to-back OPJHL championships and was always within the top 4 teams in the overall standings, this current team is in fact a disaster.
let's clarify some of your other garbage, 1) Lessio already had his scholly in hand before signing with the Buzzers, 2) i doubt Beamish is receiving full financial aid; 3/4 maybe. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 18 2009, 6:34 AM |
This years team is in fact a totally different built team than in the last 10 years my friend. Nice to see that the team is more focused on developing local players from the school itself and staff is school based as well, so based on that the team is NOT a disaster. I guess if the team was a total disaster they have done a pretty good job this season, Vs the likes of Welly and Burlington, they should not have even been in those games at all based on terrible likes of the current Buzzers team. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 18 2009, 9:04 AM |
How is that coolaid? Good to see loyalty I guess but you (and your buddies) really look foolish in your arrogance.
There are too many teams and too few players. At least your not a Dixie Doosh. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 18 2009, 9:12 AM |
"Nice to see that the team is more focused on developing local players from the school itself and staff is school based as well"
yes, it's not a total disaster for a essentially a school varsity team charging its players to play. the Buzzers are just a shell of their former selves and charging players is a total disgrace. it might be time to admit it and move on
and how does Lessio fit into your "focused on developing local players from the school"? great spin baby, great spin, but a sad display. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 19 2009, 12:25 PM |
What do you call a 1st rounder with a full ride to NCAA ? Most would suggest that is an elite player and no I did not say the team was full of elite players. I said there is more talent on that team that gets recognized. Unfortunately, for those players it will be too late before the head coach figures it out. It's hard to get scouted/noticed if you are not playing and considering this is a developmental league for younger players based on the overager limits implemented this yearetc, it is not living up to its expectations. Last years teams were load-up with the max 20 year olds, then 19 year olds etc, 16 year olds dressed but usually did not play.
That's why you have to do your research before signing a card. St. Mikes plays it's 1st/2nd line alot but not unlike some teams who are trying to win at all costs. Starting line-ups was the same for every game, every period for the 1st 25 games unless someone was injured or suspended.
Yes, they eventually want all the kids on the team to go to the school, pay $15000 for school which helps fund expenses for the team. It is a very simple business model. As an owner, you can set the rules as many are and have in the past.
The development fee is offside and will have to be repaid for those that acutally paid the fee. The current OHA bylaws and constitutions do not allow any team in the league to charge a fee of this category.
St. Mikes is like every team in the league is trying to adapt to all the changes,I'm sure they will do okay as they have so far this year.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 19 2009, 12:45 PM |
Very well written post, but your point about the $15,000.00 paid to St. Michael's College School, has absolutely no bearing on the Buzzers. The school has no ties to the Buzzer team nor do they give the Buzzers one dime of any monies towards any type of costs incurred by the Buzzers, absolutely zero dollars are given by the school to the buzzer organization. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 19 2009, 2:13 PM |
Bull crap --- they get some school donations (money)
Just like the GTHL is non-profit. Right, hind, hind. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 19 2009, 4:36 PM |
"Very well written post"
12:45, you really think so? it looks like a pile of homer manure to me. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 19 2009, 6:04 PM |
Hey listen the school gives the Buzzers Squat, if anything the Buzzers owe the school money. The school has no affiliations with the Buzzers no longer. And even if the school did, what would be the issue with the school supporting a local hockey program that is in their backyard. By the way no players are forced to go to school at St. Mike's if you play for the Buzzers. The school is available at the same cost to all students regardless if a Buzzer or not, the choice is yours. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 19 2009, 6:49 PM |
You're all right, no money actually exchanges hands, that's why the coaches do not get paid to coach and are basically volunteers and the arena attendants work for the school since it is owned by the school etc. etc etc. There is nothing wrong with what is going on, it is all perfectly legal.
The cost for the school is also reasonable considering its high academic standards.
Yes, you do not have to go to St. Mikes to play on the team, however, both recent trades and acquisitions Hawrigg and Capicotto both attend the school. Both are very good players and could play for any team in the league. Beamish and a few others plus any U of T attendees where there before the new regime kicked-in. Any new kid coming to the team would be encouraged to attend St. Mikes. They do not promote any other schools in the area such as Vaughan Road Academy or Silverthorn etc. Why would they, their track record speaks for itself, at least in past years. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 21 2009, 9:47 AM |
Looks like Lessio back on track last night despite the loss he gets a goal and a helper. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 21 2009, 11:03 AM |
It's all about Lessio I guess. Other players must love this stuff. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 21 2009, 11:05 AM |
yup lessio is back and now they are back on loosing streak! hmmmmmm |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 21 2009, 11:45 AM |
Lessis BACK!!!!!!
This kid is a distraction to teams he plays for.
In the OHL cup final game, he was benched some shifts in the the frist & second period.
He was trying to do it all himself, this kid is not a team player, so Coach KS had to bench him
while Daddy screamed and bitched out loud. It was caught on ROGERS TV.
Check out his plus/minus this year. With all the points he has, he should be in +20s
Not a team player, this will hurt team Ontario!!! It will be the Lessio Show in Timmins.
TEAM ONTARIO-GOOSE-EGG
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 21 2009, 12:00 PM |
.....Looks like Lessio back on track last night despite the loss he gets a goal and a helper......
Yes he is back, but he was the cause of three goals for the other team.
He has a Plus +1 then got Minus -3 for a game total of -2. Now that's a team player. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 21 2009, 3:14 PM |
November 16 2009, 4:17 PM
2 minutes for 2 handing the kid across the ankle and 5 mins for cross checkin a kid to the face that was wearing a visor more importantly LL wasnt even on the first line these coaches are fukd
Looks like dad brought his clown act here. Seriously, how does a player have 36 points but is -6?
YEAR TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG
2009/2010 St. Michaels 20 15 21 36 -6 40 7 9 1 0 3
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 21 2009, 6:13 PM |
I would doubt he makes it through the year as either he will crack or the coaches |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 22 2009, 2:23 AM |
-6
Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 22 2009, 10:21 AM |
sounds like you been drinking alot of coffee to be on at 2:23am |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 23 2009, 12:56 PM |
Have they refunded the players money yet? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 24 2009, 7:46 AM |
Daddy is going to flip. LL did not get a letter on his jersey just like the Marlies.
NOT A TEAM PLAYER!!
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 24 2009, 1:25 PM |
Daddy in irrelevant in this scenario. Lession is a 1st round draft pick, the OHL scouting system provided him with that ranking, not his parents. Talent wise, he is at the top of the St. Michael's team and therefore should be playing a greater role on the team. Yes, like any young kid, he has to learn from his mistakes and move forward.
St. Mikes wants the Lessio playing for them because he has a firm commitment from Michigan. That plays right into what St. Michael's is all about, therefore, they will do whatever it takes to make it work for the Lessio's.
At present, there are no other players on the team with this status. Some players, however, have other political affiliations which provides them with more icetime etc. If you watch this team, there is alot of hidden talent behind the chosen ones. I noticed some is starting to show in the last few games. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 24 2009, 2:06 PM |
Bullshit.
Daddy played his cards well, he bullshited everyone that approached him from London, Barrie, Niagara, Schools, GMs, Scouts, Agents, Hockey Parents......
He committed to Niagara 100% at one time but Daddy didn't not like all the attention was going to the Hamilton family. That's when he committed to Michigan for the time being at the time.
Now as for Michigan whether Daddys likes it or not, his kid was not first choice, let's say 14th choice and thats a fact.
All I am saying the Kid is good player, NOT A TEAM PLAYER AND DADDY BRINGS A CLOWN SHOW TO TOWN.
And that's why his Plus/Minus is crappy AND St. Mikes is barely playing .500 !!!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 24 2009, 4:44 PM |
Every parent has to look after the best interests of their kid and most parents put education at the front of the line. Lessio will get lots of attention no matter where he plays, but players on those teams will also get some exposure due to their affiliation. When NCAA scouts show up, typically they are looking at certain players at that time. This is also an opportunity for any player on the team to get noticed also. The problem is, if you don't play, then all said is down the drain.
With respect to the Icedogs or any OHL team/organization for that matter, they treat kids like McDonald's trading cards. Yes, upfront, its all good but they run a business, will trade you instantaneously if they can get something better to improve their team. NCAA does not trade their players, players can ask to be traded and things move forward from there.
OHL, CCHl whatever league all have their issues. That's why its important to do your research before you jump with excitment.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 24 2009, 5:19 PM |
What is Niagara's win - loss record? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 24 2009, 6:16 PM |
Really dude? Go to the OHL website. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 24 2009, 10:50 PM |
Just a note on the +/- ratings. I have always felt this is a key indicator for any player, especially the way the NHL looks at it ! Last year McFarlane, Spooner and many more 1st year players were in the -20 and higher range for the year.
In speaking with some OHL coaches, they dig a little deeper into the +/- story. For example, you're a forward on the powerplay and during the breakout you are high to the left or right in the neutral zone. The play is for you to cut across to the otherside or switch sides with the other forward who is lower. Meanwhile, your D is bringing the puck up the ice and loses it based on an agressive forecheck by the other team or makes a bad pass. The player goes in and scores. You are - 1, as is everyone else on the ice and really you were actually doing what your are supposed to do on that play.
Some people actually cheat and stay on longer if their team is pressing in the offensive zone, just in case the puck goes in earning a + 1.
If your team is .500 or lower, you are losing more games which is very difficult to have a + rating under those circumstances.
If you have a younger team which makes alot of mistakes and their record reflects this, you will be a - player, unless you play PK only.
The bottom line is why is the player a +/-, that's what scouts look at when they attend the games, if they pay attention and don't take too many coffee breaks. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 1:13 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 6:38 AM |
Plus/Minus accountability in the CCHL is terrible at best. Unfortunately the time keepers in the box running pointstreak have enough on their plate as it is, and to ask for them to follow Plus/Minus well that is a task on its own..so in most instances they just randomly choose players and/or they will ask a parent in the stands next to them. Unfortunately folks the pointstreak operator cannot close the system without inputting the plus / minus stat so do you think they are going to stay their all night figuring it out or going to ask everyone about it, NO. Sometimes it will be reviewed after the matter and corrected by there are only a handful of teams that go through that exercise folks. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 7:12 AM |
Ok, you are all right.
He is a +100 team player.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 8:58 AM |
P/P unit does not get a +1 when they score, they get a -1 if the other team scores shorthanded. Also at the end of the game,if you pull the goalie and the other team scores on your team, you also get a -1. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 10:46 AM |
Sh!t. Let's just rename this thread the LL thread. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 11:38 AM |
Shit disturber, Leave it alone!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 11:52 AM |
I only said that because that seems to be who is being talked about in this thread as supposed to St. Mike's issues you knob. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 12:33 PM |
LOL or the incredibly stupid one. I can't believe how some idiot would try to tell everyone how a coach or scout thinks but doesn't even know what a +/- really is |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 5:13 PM |
while the +/- stat may not be tracked well in T2 (what a marvel?!), all you have to do is watch them play.
it is quite possible that Lessio has never spoken with his defensemen, nor does he know what his goalies look like. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 7:43 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 25 2009, 9:26 PM |
Lessio is the best (only) player worthwhile on this team. period. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 8:10 AM |
This is getting sickening!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 9:44 AM |
Fact: Lessio's team mates were sick of him before he left for the Tier 2 world championship. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 10:32 AM |
ST . MIKES need him but expect him to be in OSHAWA next season no matter what you hear |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 11:47 AM |
yah, it's a real bummer having to write those SAT's man. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 12:45 PM |
OK....this is the first time weighing in on this subject. Honest.
My son and his friend went to Fridays game. Could not have been more than a 100 people.
Our take away was that LL is obviously very talented and way ahead of the pack. Clearly the coach was not happy with his lack of committment without the puck and justifyably so. The teammates tended to shy away from him during the evening. He made some fantastic skill plays, but looked uninterested in competing along the boards with mostly larger Hamilton players. Dont get me started on young Hyman being there.
In a crowd and in open ice he can pick out the puck and deliver. A joy to watch the offensive skill.
So bottom line...same as Tavares out of Minor Hockey....not a complete player, but talented enough for most organizations to suck it up...when Sutter got a hold of Tavares during the juniors, Tavares's world was rocked and he finally grew up. Sad that a NHL'er from the West got through and I for one would not want to face an angry Sutter at any time.
I suspect this will be the same for this youngster as I cannot believe whether NCAA or OHL, a coach will have difficulty put up with a year of committing only on the offensive side of the game.
As with Tavares, it is truly irresponsible for a Marlies coach after all these years to setup a kid for a hard maturation. Yes they win and pick from a large amount of players, but what a disservice to the young men in the long run. I suspect most of the GTHL super coaches suffer from the same issue as parents call a lot of the shots at the high end skill scale.
I hope this boy and family will learn about hard work on the other side of the puck...you can only protect and pretend until the wall hits and then we learn about character and hard work as many in the NHL (usually 3rd liners) got there with the dirty four letter word...WORK with some talent.
Good luck LL....I wish my kid had as much god given talent you have. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 1:03 PM |
November 26 2009, 12:45 PM
Very well written post. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 1:21 PM |
i agree, good post.
however i'm not too crazy about the comparison to JT. he was a true phenom and Lessio is not. remember, JT had 45 goals and 32 apples as a 15 year old in the O - Lessio is 16 and playing T2. but your overall analogy is correct as JT did have some deficiencies in his game. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 26 2009, 10:35 PM |
You sre all wasting your time worrying about LL, he is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 27 2009, 6:52 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 27 2009, 10:13 AM |
Good morning! It never fails that you are on this site every morning. The truth is a bitch, isn't it? Your son wasn't drafted and is going nowhere playing midget hockey. It's all because of his coach right? Buddy you should seek help!
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 27 2009, 10:18 AM |
LOL That's a leap. You have a good imagination
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 27 2009, 12:46 PM |
November 27 2009, 10:13 AM
Good morning! It never fails that you are on this site every morning. The truth is a bitch, isn't it? Your son wasn't drafted and is going nowhere playing midget hockey. It's all because of his coach right? Buddy you should seek help!
Speaking of being on here every morning. How would you know? And why post this same eant on multiple threads? Can't think of anything orinal for the other threads so you paste the same rant multiple times? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 27 2009, 1:17 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 28 2009, 3:47 PM |
Another assist for the LL-superstar.
Oh!oh! the team player gets another minus 1 |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 28 2009, 3:52 PM |
too bad that was the wrong info |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 28 2009, 7:56 PM |
Lessio gets 3 points today but is -2, nice job.
He's also back to taking stupid penalties in the last 5 minutes of the game ... it's all about Lessio baby, it's all about Lessio. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 28 2009, 11:00 PM |
Kid has no brains, just a selfish player.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 29 2009, 10:42 AM |
they were winning while he was away. Are they still winning. If so who cares. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 29 2009, 12:47 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 29 2009, 10:12 PM |
was a force today even though they lost, burlington had a tough time handling him |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 29 2009, 10:20 PM |
This team will lose games because of the inexperienced head coach behind the bench.
Lessio nor anyone else can do nothing about that situation. When they were winning, Cam Stewart came back for those games as a mentor since he was listed on the game sheets as an assistance coach.
Cam Stewart could take these guys to a higher level. Unless that happens, they will not improve from the middle of the pack. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 29 2009, 11:01 PM |
This is the Dan Ciampni show he is the team leader and force just look again today he scored 4 goals and had either 1 or 2 helpers, he must have had one heck of game in Cougartown. Too bad the cougars were able to score 8 goals in the game with strong plays from their top 2 scorers. The Buzzers Defense and goaltending need work and it was evident today as their weaknesses were exploited. Saying that it didn't seem that the Cougars blueliners were very strong as well, but the Cogars were missing one of their leaders and top defensemen in todays contest. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 12:45 PM |
who was the Burlington top D out of the lineup? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 1:02 PM |
2 questions:
What happened to the Rizzo kid. Hasn't been in the lineup for a few games and he was one of the teams leading scorers.
Lessio no points last night. He's usually good for about 2 points a night. Was he hurt or did he get limited ice time?
Thanks in advance.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 2:36 PM |
Are crazy, he played a great game.
A plus 1, helping teammates AND not selfish.
But this type of game pisses jerk-off DADDY --- Claudi the Clown |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 3:24 PM |
Dude. I was just asking a question. Not saying that he had a bad game. I was not there just wondering why he had no points. Your explanation sounds fair. He played a team game. Looks like the coach is getting through to him. He will continue to get his fair share of points regardless of how he plays. It's just good to hear that he is adopting a we, not me philosophy. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 3:50 PM |
That's Cool.
But I seen both Son & Dad behind the scenes bash, criticize and blame others behind their backs.
They have called coaches, GMs, Scouts and Agents voicing their negative opinions about other players and teams
Just out to hurt others to get ahead. THESE TWO WILL NEVER SUPPORT OR HELP OTHERS.
They can ruin and offset good hockey players by their Clown Show!!!
Watch and wait how Dad and Son destory Team Ontario EAST!!!
Can wait for this kid to go to Michigan, they can have him. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 4:02 PM |
He will not destroy Team Ontario. All the other players on the Team Ontario team have been humbled by their OHL experience to date. He is outnumbered. Lessio will have to buy in to the Team Ontario system or he won't play. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 7:25 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 7:31 PM |
Also, Oshawa will be there ready to take it up the ASS by Daddy.
They will be trying hard to de-committed the kid.
The OHL are a bunch low life Cock-Smokers.
Let start a vote ---- Will the kid de-committed or not.
I say YES
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 8:20 PM |
Buzzers have several players currently injured and did not play. Not sure the status on many of them. Rizzo suffered some type of shoulder injury and has been missed was on the top unit and putting up points for the team, Forbes not sure I know he had a charlie horse a few games ago, Luongo not sure, Neville not sure, Benn not sure. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | November 30 2009, 10:20 PM |
Rizzo was not on the top unit. Camp, Beamish & Lessio were the top unit for 25 games. When Cam Stewart came back for a few games, he changed it up. The 2nd line was Forbes, Cameron mainly with the other wingman changing from game to game. Rizzo, played the powerplay and that's where he has scored most of his goals. Rizzo's true talent is on the penalty kill where he is a leader in short-handed goals.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 9:27 AM |
7:31, with at least one grammatical error in each of your sentences, you're the ideal spokesperson for a NCAA education. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 11:35 AM |
And by the way Mr. 9:27am, it's "an education", not "a education". Idiot! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 11:55 AM |
You missed an acronym in front of "education" dumbass.
In your world it is: "an NCAA education" or "an college eductation".
Get back on the crack pipe Einstein. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 12:03 PM |
That was done on purpose you half-wit. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 12:04 PM |
"an college education" That's rich! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 12:14 PM |
12:03, you just keep getting more and more stupid.
The use of "an" or "a" depends on the word it precedes and whether or not it begins with a vowel (use "an) or a consonant (use "a"). DUH!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 12:18 PM |
See how easy it is to bait you idiots from the original topic? LMAO. Sucker. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 12:28 PM |
12:18, you NCAA guys are so smart. we really are not worthy. btw, can Lessio spell shit? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 2:27 PM |
Italian for shit --- CLAUDIO |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 5:18 PM |
The last few posters are adding nothing to the original topic of this form;
" rumours that the current owner is looking for a partner "
Bashing Claudio is irrelevant to the original topic. First of all, he has a job and will get paid regardless of where LL ends up. The OHL scouting system opened the doors by making LL a top prospect and then a 7th overall pick. This was only possible due to the success he had as a MM with the Marlies. He was provided with all the opportunities as were many of the other 1st and 2nd rounders of the OHL priority selection draft. As a result, he has a commitment from a top US university. Too many prospects (more their advisors) are playing both OHL vs NCAA against each other. Well maybe it has worked recently, however, going forward some may find these doors will not be as wide open as in the past. If you talk to the NCAA coaches, they are not excited about investing time, money etc. and then find out they were basically being used for leverage to get the best possible deal. Yes, this is a business, but unlike business, where you have to be at least 18 to get a license to operate, we are dealing with 16/17 year olds that are in grade 10/11.
The politics in hockey never end, it's an old boys club where they look after their own. As Canadians, we need to be aware of one thing, the demographics of hockey are changing very rapidly. At one time, Canadians playing in the NHL represented 100%, now we are int he 50 - 55% level. More and more players are coming from the European and USA systems.
Since they now have their infrastructure systems in place, you will see more non-canadians taking up roster spots on all pro teams at the different levels. Considering the recent rule changes where the physical part of the game is gradually being removed, the advantage that Canadian players had in the past is slowly deteriorating.
Where are the Wendel Clark, Doug Gilmour players of the future going to come from.
Now, if you are a true Canadian and want to see our athletes regain their position in our game, then instead of bashing people, go out to the Tier II games and support your local teams. When that happens, then the owners will not be looking for a partner to help pay for expenses for the kids who are hoping to get a scholarship if they are so lucky.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 6:20 PM |
5:18, that's all well and nice, but just maybe you missed the memo mentioning that T2 is watered down beyond acceptability. the league(s) has destroyed itself thru corruption and nepotism.
your articulate verbosity aside, why should anyone besides friends & family pay $11 to watch a bottom to mid-pack team, when they can pay $13 to watch Hodgonson, Duchene, Grachev, Clarke, etc. plus the stars on the visiting team? or drive 45 minutes the other way and you could have watched JT and Del Zotto (& the visitor stars) for $16. from an entertainment perspective there is no contest between the 2 levels of hockey.
within Toronto proper there are 7 T2 teams within 20 minutes of each other. perhaps the product would be worthwhile and a rivalry could develop if this was reduced to only 2 teams. in the old days this was 2 (Buzzers & Raiders) to 3 (in of the Dukes/Beehives/Crusaders) teams. these T2 leagues have become there own worst enemy. if i want to watch "super midget hockey", i can just catch the game before and after my kid plays; besides, i've already paid our admission. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 6:40 PM |
Then don't go to the games if you can't afford to pay or feel you are not getting value for your money. Maybe you should buy Leafs tickets. Try another sport that is thriving.
Hockey is a business and it will never change. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 7:44 PM |
6:40, you missed the entire point of the post. i'll let you try again.
btw, i do take in around 6 to 8 Leaf games per season. i spent $5K on 4 gold ticket packages to last year's WJC in Ottawa, and probably take in around 25 games between the Battalion, Majors and Gennies per season. and you? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 1 2009, 10:03 PM |
The Kid will de-commit after the Under-17 Tourn.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 12:00 AM |
Then keeping going to those games and don't waste your time and money watching the CCHL etc. The focus on the new league is to develop Canadian hockey players. Whether or not it will work, time will only tell. Prior to this season, most T2 teams loaded-up with the max. 20 year olds and sat the younger players or sent them to watch the game in the stands.
If you want a comparable league to the way it used to be, then the closest you will get is the BCHL, where most college scout heavily for their prospects.
Under the new league the 2 - '93 card players actually get to play. In addition there are more '92 and '91 playing on most of the roster. This keeps more kids in the game versus the old system. In fact, if you go back far enough the OHL asctually carried fewer 20 year olds on their roster that T2 OPJHL did last year.
Now back to the topic of the forum. The rumour was that the owner may be looking for a partner, which is someone that will share in the risks and help pay the bills or share in the revenues. That is the definition of a partner. You are a competitor, so take your $$$, buy a team and see if you can improve the system to encourage more young kids to stick with game.
The owner also has a son ('94 birth year) who will be playing for St. Mikes next year along with a new coaching team. If the owner is willing to lose money running a team, then I guess he is putting his money where his mouth is.
The bottom line is that Canadian and some US kids are given an opportunity to play and continue their development. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 8:58 AM |
My guess is that the Minor Midget Malboro coach (1994) born will be coming in to coach. He of course will bring his son. The coach has had success at the Minor Hockey level. But then again he does have the advantage of everybody wanting to play for the Marlboros. Not much different then everybody wanting to play for St.Michaels. Lots of tradition and winning ways! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 9:05 AM |
Teams like Dixie, Aurora, Hamilton, Streetsville, Ajax, Pickering, etc. laden with sons of owners, managers and coaches are very deserving of our $upport. The Buzzers must be one of the few teams that don't have a kid related to team management this year.
I might as well wait until next year to support the Buzzers. By getting a partner they will be sinking more money into the team getting better coaches (and players?) to showcase the owner's kid, not to mention the extra funds available from charging the crappier players. Yah, should be a better team and sounds like a good plan for a successful operation. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 11:46 AM |
Who is the 1994 Marlboro's coach and what position does this coaches son play and where would this coaches son fit into the Buzzer roster next season. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 12:11 PM |
WOW, owner's son & coach's son on the Buzzers, gonna be another great year! Better hope LL stays. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 12:16 PM |
LL going to Oshawa.
He is a Momma's Boy, can't see him going to Michigan. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 2:22 PM |
That's the whole point, there is no money at the Tier 2 level. If the Marlies can't even get a regular attendance at their games, then why would it be any different for Tier 2. Keep supporting those venues where the cheques from the revenues flow outside our borders. In the World Juniors, there is only 1 team that matters to Canadian. The Russians vs the "O", the "Q" and WHL all-star teams is a joke.
Congrats to those owners who are willing to invest their $$$ into a league where the opportunity to make a positive cashflow is doubtful at best. You will also find many are very active in their local communities supporting many other organizations along the way.
The bottom line is, they through their generosity, albeit self-serving in some instances are providing an opporunity for mostly CANADIAN kids to keep playing our game.
If as a result of playing in this "watered-down" league some kids are able to get a scholarship or an invite to play at a higher level, that's great. That's why it is called a development league.
With respect to St. Mikes, they have a different plan than most teams in T2. Their education/hockey goals are obvious. The organization is well respected and will move on.
For starters try sticking-up for all the Canadian kids and instead of bashing those organizations which provide them with another chance to play.
Stop supporting those venues where the money flows to a hockey association outside of North America.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 4:52 PM |
2:22, should we all drive north american cars too? for starters, do you?
as for your: "Stop supporting those venues where the money flows to a hockey association outside of North America.", perhaps you should educate yourself on these events:
http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.php/ci_id/21713/la_id/1.htm
what exactly is your beef with the CHL Canada/Russia series? as it's far from being a "joke" as you put it.
if you go to any Leaf games or buy any NHL licensed paraphernalia for your kid, you may want to cease and desist. actually you should open a new thread and title it "Stop supporting the NHL", because 98.4% of the NHL Canada/US minor hockey development fund flows south of the border:
http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com/2009/06/nhl-needs-to-invest-beyond-usa.html
finally, there is no T2 hockey product. it's glorified midget league filled with "daddy's teams". as someone mentioned above why should i support the owner's, manager's, coaches' kids who get the lion's share of icetime and chance for schollies? as for the St. Mike's Buzzers, I refuse to support any team that charges its players to play. next year when they join the rest of the league as a "daddy's team", a great storied franchise ends. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 4:53 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 6:10 PM |
"finally, there is no T2 hockey product. it's glorified midget league filled with "daddy's teams". as someone mentioned above why should i support the owner's, manager's, coaches' kids who get the lion's share of icetime and chance for schollies? as for the St. Mike's Buzzers, I refuse to support any team that charges its players to play. next year when they join the rest of the league as a "daddy's team", a great storied franchise ends."
SOMEONE GOT CUT !! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 6:12 PM |
M71 on this Forum as well? Can't be. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 6:29 PM |
"SOMEONE GOT CUT !!"
nice quantum leap copernicus. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 6:33 PM |
That's the whole point, you are one person with one opinion and that is your democratic right. Therefore, keep you life simple, don't go to T2 games since you do not support their agendas. Instead, put your money where you mouth is and start-up your own glorified midget league as you put and see where it will take you. Maybe you will actually get recruited and sign a card and your life will back to normal.
Ask any kid playing in the CCHL if they would rather play T2 or Major Midget. If these leagues did not exist, then most kids would stop playing and start dedicating themselves to high school sports, since most are still in school.
Every league has its top teams and those that struggle. The teams at the top of the CCHL have some very good players and not always exact science, their average age may be older in some of these instances. Burlington moved over to the younger division to have a better chance of winning the division, something that would be difficult to do in the old division, where the Kingston Vees are at present the top team.
The other 20 teams felt this was the best environoment for their organization and the standings at present reflect the parity in the league.
The other 15 teams in the other division, opted for more 20 year olds and felt that their division was best suited for their needs.
So, we have 36 teams playing at T2, this is giving many kids an opportunity to play vs the alternatives.
The NHL is a professional league dealing with players that are at least 18 years old or older and are paid a salary to play. Last time I checked, except for some 20 year olds, mainly to help pay for gas, do not get paid.
The OHL is considered a professional league also, where players are paid and banking education funds.
In fact, if the NHL would push their draft back to age 20 and the OHL priority selection to age 18, then there would be less pressure for a 16 year to make lifelasting decisions at that uncertain time of their life when they are in Grade 10. Considering most OHL teams have 15 draft picks depending on trades etc, usually only 3 play in the 1st year, where do you thing the other 12 players should play to continue their development and jump possibly the next year into a roster position ?
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 2 2009, 6:53 PM |
That was a good read and very well said. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 3 2009, 1:52 AM |
Grant Furlane is the best developer of players by far. Look what he gives back to hockey. What an organization. Heard he is working woth R.I.M co-founder on the Hamilton NHL deal. Would be sweet for such a great guy. Hopefully the organization will see the talent in his boy to kick start his NHL career.
50/50 remember Grant? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 3 2009, 7:45 AM |
That's the whole point, you are one person with one opinion and that is your democratic right. Therefore, keep you life simple, don't go to T2 games since you do not support their agendas. Instead, put your money where you mouth is and start-up your own glorified midget league as you put and see where it will take you. Maybe you will actually get recruited and sign a card and your life will back to normal.
Ask any kid playing in the CCHL if they would rather play T2 or Major Midget. If these leagues did not exist, then most kids would stop playing and start dedicating themselves to high school sports, since most are still in school.
Every league has its top teams and those that struggle. The teams at the top of the CCHL have some very good players and not always exact science, their average age may be older in some of these instances. Burlington moved over to the younger division to have a better chance of winning the division, something that would be difficult to do in the old division, where the Kingston Vees are at present the top team.
The other 20 teams felt this was the best environoment for their organization and the standings at present reflect the parity in the league.
The other 15 teams in the other division, opted for more 20 year olds and felt that their division was best suited for their needs.
So, we have 36 teams playing at T2, this is giving many kids an opportunity to play vs the alternatives.
The NHL is a professional league dealing with players that are at least 18 years old or older and are paid a salary to play. Last time I checked, except for some 20 year olds, mainly to help pay for gas, do not get paid.
The OHL is considered a professional league also, where players are paid and banking education funds.
In fact, if the NHL would push their draft back to age 20 and the OHL priority selection to age 18, then there would be less pressure for a 16 year to make lifelasting decisions at that uncertain time of their life when they are in Grade 10. Considering most OHL teams have 15 draft picks depending on trades etc, usually only 3 play in the 1st year, where do you thing the other 12 players should play to continue their development and jump possibly the next year into a roster position ?
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 3 2009, 9:07 AM |
1:52, lmao! anyone who knows Grant knows he's not losing any money. when you don't have any OA's and 19 year olds on the team, can you say: bought positions?! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 3 2009, 10:05 AM |
7:45, why are you repeating your posts? which is basically re-hashing your post of December 2 2009, 12:00 AM. they're far from being literary masterpieces.
"That's the whole point, you are one person with one opinion and that is your democratic right. Therefore, keep you life simple, don't go to T2 games since you do not support their agendas."
- ah, look around the rinks from Chesswood, Westwood, St. Mike's, to Pickering, Aurora and Milton, no one is going to these games! over 100 people watching a game is a banner night. and don't go by (paid) attendance (which is still very low) as many business purchase season tickets as a form of sponsorship. so ya think there maybe a few of us with the same opinion? what does that tell you about the product?
"Instead, put your money where you mouth is and start-up your own glorified midget league as you put and see where it will take you."
- where did this come from? why would stop there?! i'll start-up a new minor hockey league in Toronto to compete against the G, then i'll creat a new elite junior league to compete against the CHL, then i'll re-invent the WHA to go after the NHL. an absolutely ingenious idea.
"Maybe you will actually get recruited and sign a card and your life will back to normal."
- thanks for asking and your concern, but i'm a little too long in the tooth.
"Ask any kid playing in the CCHL if they would rather play T2 or Major Midget. If these leagues did not exist, then most kids would stop playing and start dedicating themselves to high school sports, since most are still in school."
- that's one of the points you're missing. with only 2 underage spots available and them being locked up by 1) relatives of the owner, manager, or coach, or 2) an OHL affiliate whose position is being funded by the assigning team (at least this is above board), there are very, very few spots open in the CCHL or OPJHL for 16 year olds.
"Every league has its top teams and those that struggle. The teams at the top of the CCHL have some very good players and not always exact science, their average age may be older in some of these instances. Burlington moved over to the younger division to have a better chance of winning the division, something that would be difficult to do in the old division, where the Kingston Vees are at present the top team."
- there are too many teams! period!
"The other 20 teams felt this was the best environoment for their organization and the standings at present reflect the parity in the league."
- bullshit. McCarron has been losing money ever since he bought the team. the losses were starting to stagger in the last 2 years (and this one!) as a result of the Buzzers not going deep into the playoffs. it's a vicious circle in T2 where you need to spend money to make it, and even then they probably just covered costs with the great teams of 03/04, 04/5 and 05/06. nevertheless this was a better development model than the puppet they have now for a coach now and the resulting lack of development the players of this bottom tier team are facing.
"The other 15 teams in the other division, opted for more 20 year olds and felt that their division was best suited for their needs."
- the issue of OA's has not made sense in T2 for 20 years. up until 6 years ago the OPJHL had NO restrictions on OA's. please explain to me how this was/is a "developmental league". at least teams like St. Mike's, Bramalea, Wexford, Oshawa, Peterborough and (the old) Kingston limited their acquisition through their club philosophy. please don't talk to me about OA's and T2, as the OHA is full of shit on this one.
"So, we have 36 teams playing at T2, this is giving many kids an opportunity to play vs the alternatives."
- again too many teams. open your mind. have a look at how many players are drafted into the NHL from US high schools every year: 19 in '09, 15 in '08, 14 in '07, 19 in '06, 18 in '05, and 18 in '04. reduce T2 to a max of 20 teams and you will have A) better calibre of players and better development for them, and 2) a product that could rival the O and that people might actually pay to see. midget hockey would improve as well.
"The NHL is a professional league dealing with players that are at least 18 years old or older and are paid a salary to play."
- non-sequitur.
"Last time I checked, except for some 20 year olds, mainly to help pay for gas, do not get paid.
The OHL is considered a professional league also, where players are paid and banking education funds."
- this is NOT why O players are deemed professional by the NCAA! you're a newbie and your statement above it about T2 (i'm inferring T2 as you weren't explicit) is completely incorrect. you really don't have a clue here.
"In fact, if the NHL would push their draft back to age 20 and the OHL priority selection to age 18, then there would be less pressure for a 16 year to make lifelasting decisions at that uncertain time of their life when they are in Grade 10."
- we finally agree on something: the NHL draft should be at 20. however since this isn't going to change anytime soon, this is just a pipe dream. as for making "lifelasting decisions", you can thank the NCAA for that one.
"Considering most OHL teams have 15 draft picks depending on trades etc, usually only 3 play in the 1st year, where do you thing the other 12 players should play to continue their development and jump possibly the next year into a roster position ?"
- refer to what i stated above re: "daddy teams" and OHL development funded players. an increasing number of midgets have had no recourse but to continue playing minor hockey. and that's a fact jack. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 3 2009, 11:15 AM |
There is nothing wrong with playing Midget. That is where the "system" would prefer players to play. Not in the OJHL. Especially as a 16 year old. What is preventing this happening is the parent owners of Tier 2 who think that this is where their 16 year old sons should be playing. So they change the rules and try to accomodate more 16 year olds and less 20 year olds on their teams. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 3 2009, 4:48 PM |
You're right, there is nothing wrong with playing midget if your alternatives are to get limited icetime at a higher level, whether T2 or Junior C.
Too many parents think that T2 is a necessary step after their minor midget year. Many in the business will tell you to play were you will get the ice-time, good practices and off-ice training. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 4 2009, 9:58 PM |
Lessio had a great game tonight against Burlington. What an embarassment. 12-1 Burlington. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 4 2009, 10:28 PM |
Lessio had a great game tonight against Burlington. What an embarassment. 12-1 Burlington.
Give it a rest. One player does not lose or win a game, it takes a team! Because his team lost does not mean he is no good! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 4 2009, 10:43 PM |
With you guys talking I thought he was the team. Look at the thread. He walks on ice. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 4 2009, 10:51 PM |
I guess tonight he didn't. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 4 2009, 11:33 PM |
holy shit batman, what a spanking!
who leaves the same goalie in for all 12?? leave the kid some dignity for goodness sake and start the 3rd with the back-up.
the good news is that there were only 93 witnesses to this homicide.
turn out the lights, the party's over. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 4 2009, 11:34 PM |
HEY IF NOT IN THE "O" YOU AINT WALKIN ANYWHERE. GIVE IT UP GUYS |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 3:25 AM |
Where is Daddy? I forgot. He only shows when then the day is good. Same with minor midget. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 9:15 AM |
First of all Lessio was the only bright spot on that top line yesterday, very selfish play, the top players only worried about points , no passing, definately no backchecking , the goalie did struggle, but hey with no support , no one picking up any of the shooters, just letting the Burlington forward and D walk in fire away. Left the game with 5 minutes left as it was to difficult to watch, for the 50 plus fans there. I was told this morning that the team was bag skated after the game, well for the defense of the players on this team, maybe the coaching staff and management should look real hard in the mirror and see what they have created here. Don't just go out and blame the kids, it starts from the top and as far as I can see their has been absolutley no development going on here and the main focus is on a few select players, but even saying that their has not been very dramatic development with the aforementioned. Lessio may seriously start considering a move here to the OHL, in an effort to save his development progression and not lose out a year and fall behind. The goalie could be blamed for maybe 4 of the goals, a few from the high slot and the give away to the Burlington player was just plain brutal, but hey you can't just leave a goalie in the net for that many goals without the kid just looking for the exit signs. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 9:49 AM |
Why was the starting goalie not pulled in the game, poor kid. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 10:12 AM |
NHL looks at all of the leagues they don't care where the player comes from it's the hockey purists that think that there's only one way 2 go. BTW, these are the same dudes that couldn't figure out why the Russians where playing a left handed shot on the RW in 1972 Can Russ series. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 10:56 AM |
"First of all Lessio was the only bright spot on that top line yesterday, very selfish play, the top players only worried about points , no passing, definately no backchecking , the goalie did struggle, but hey with no support , no one picking up any of the shooters, just letting the Burlington forward and D walk in fire away. "
The issue is no one wants to play with Lessio . Its that simple. Move him and you have a winning team. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 11:14 AM |
It's all about the coaching at these development levels. As previously stated, some of the chosen are get all the opportunities while others are not being rewarded for good play.
The reality is who wants to coach at this level unless they themselves have aspirations of moving on. The kids have figured it out, the ones that take bad selfish penalties are not reprimanded only is you are currently playing on the 3rd or 4th line.
Previous poster is right, Lessio, Beamish etc will find it a big surprise when they move to the next level. This is not to take anything away from them, poor coaching will rear its ugly head in their development.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 2:09 PM |
The issue is no one wants to play with Lessio . Its that simple. Move him and you have a winning team.
Funny you say that, With the Marlies.... No one and I mean nobody wanted to play with this kid.
F-you CLAUDIO, you stupid ASSHOLE bringing the same shit to St. Mike's!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 2:28 PM |
can he change or will St. Mikes move him |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 3:26 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 4:47 PM |
Hey CLAUDIO, take your kid and leave the Country.
Michigan is waiting, go fine a prep school in the USA or something. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 4:54 PM |
it's all about Lessio baybee, it's all about Lessio... |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 9:47 PM |
Yes it is.
I am the cometh of NASH.
So f-you all, I am thy only HOCKEY PLAYER of CANADA!!!
Et tu bruto CLAUDIO. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 5 2009, 11:53 PM |
i prefer when the gash cometh... |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 6 2009, 9:51 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 8 2009, 9:43 AM |
Dartmouth beamish
Chiampini RIT
LL Mich
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 8 2009, 11:02 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 8 2009, 11:29 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 8 2009, 1:42 PM |
Hey boys.....wants some facts straight from a prominent player agent who is in the know big time. Number one...the whole tier 2 league will be charging 2 grand per kid to play next year. This is the only way that the league will ever generate the cash to get the full time leadership it needs to change this level of hockey. 19 out of 21 teams voted to charge players but St. Mikes was the only one to have the balls to do it. By the way. Teams wont be charging. The league will be doing it as a registration feel. Number two...the two leagues are merging next year and will reduce the number of teams by one third through mergers and an agressive buy out plan. Yes. The league will have 24 teams next year working together....not one league of 15 and one of 21. Number three ...the Buzzers have already committed to their two 1994 players and the owners son aint one of them. Currently the Buzzers have 5 1994s protected and several have played - Laughton, Marcantonio, Finn, (marlies) Mercer (Nats) and Curcurutta (reps). Note...no daddys son. (how refreshing) Finally....current marlies MM coach is coaching the midget marlies next year. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 8 2009, 8:53 PM |
lmfao...his son will be on team |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 12:12 AM |
i agree. his '94 kid will take one of the underage spots.
"This is the only way that the league will ever generate the cash to get the full time leadership it needs to change this level of hockey. 19 out of 21 teams voted to charge players but St. Mikes was the only one to have the balls to do it. By the way. Teams wont be charging. The league will be doing it as a registration feel."
charging their players turned into a fiasco for St. Mike's. Buzzers media guy, M71, stated that the money was for the team to offset costs as it was losing money and this player fee would preclude any team fundraisers.
M71's post on the T2 site was a reaction to the whiplash that ensued when it was encovered that the Buzzers were charging its players. it was a thorough embarassment, which also shocked all of the staunch St. Mike's supporters.
reducing the number of the teams is a great idea and completely makes sense, however look at who's footing the clean-up tab > the parents! also, you can bet the 11 teams being eliminated will seek legal action as they will want to soak their beaks in the (cess)pool of future registration fees. once again Tear 2 (pun intended) owners and league(s) fat cats prove that this is the most phuking pathetic run hockey programme in Ontario. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 9:08 AM |
No one had a problem with St. Mikes charging players but some losers on this and other chat rooms. I am sure your comments have really bothered the Buzzer brass!!!! LOL St. Mikes was showing a leadership role like it has done in the past and I am sure will continue to do in the future as long as the current ownership is in place. No team is doing more to fix the mess that is Tier 11 hockey than this team. Sorry dads. Next year everyones paying. Thats the new reality. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 10:57 AM |
There are Parents who still have not figured out the reality of Junior and next year the ones whining about paying etc. By , By |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 12:27 PM |
9:08, three St. Mike's parents lead the revolt you ass clown. how do you think a copy of the player fee letter surfaced? the parents weren't even informed that they were on the hook for the $1,800 fee before they signed!
as far as St. Mike's taking a leadership role, the owner is so desperate for funding that he pulls a GMHL move. whoopie freakin doo, very original alright.
in addition to the unsuspecting parents having an issue with it, there's an OHA bylaw against charging players so St. Mike's was really brain dead. the new reality as you put it, is that St. Mike's is no different than the other nefarious clubs such as Dixie, Pickering, Streetsville, Aurora, Milton, etc.
the best thing McCarron can do is fold the team before he does further damage to this once proud franchise. mark this well: McCarron will be done with junior hockey once his son has gone thru it. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 12:37 PM |
The one's that had an issue are no longer with the team so there is no issue with the fee, it was paid and current parents have no issue with the fee, big deal its nominal. If you have any other insights contrary or whom these three parents are please do enlighten us. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 12:49 PM |
12:37, you may have heard some things from someone, but you don't know what's going on there. enuf said. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 1:09 PM |
hey 12:27. Guess your kid got cut from the team! I am a parent on team and was happy to write a cheque. As McCarron said to me...its either continue to lose gobs of money, start making back door deals (charging kids for spots) like everyone else does or charge the kids. What does your sons Midget team charge you loser???? |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 1:06 PM |
"Hey boys.....wants some facts straight from a prominent player agent who is in the know big time. Number one...the whole tier 2 league will be charging 2 grand per kid to play next year. This is the only way that the league will ever generate the cash to get the full time leadership it needs to change this level of hockey. 19 out of 21 teams voted to charge players but St. Mikes was the only one to have the balls to do it. By the way. Teams wont be charging. The league will be doing it as a registration feel. Number two...the two leagues are merging next year and will reduce the number of teams by one third through mergers and an agressive buy out plan. Yes. The league will have 24 teams next year working together....not one league of 15 and one of 21. Number three ...the Buzzers have already committed to their two 1994 players and the owners son aint one of them. Currently the Buzzers have 5 1994s protected and several have played - Laughton, Marcantonio, Finn, (marlies) Mercer (Nats) and Curcurutta (reps). Note...no daddys son. (how refreshing) Finally....current marlies MM coach is coaching the midget marlies next year."
Interesting post!
I wonder why you would suggest the info is 'straight from a prominent? player agent'. If he's prominent, I doubt he would either be in this forum or be telling you the FACTS. It might be a suggestion. It could be a direction they wish to go.
Making the league smaller makes sense for everyone IMHO. Who's going to enforce that? The board? (which one?)So 24 teams now eh!? Who wins, more or less 20 year olds?
A 'registration fee' as you suggest sounds like a smoke screen. How does this benefit the team? League fees have been an issue for some teams and the league but I doubt the owners want to put money in the league's bank account. I'd be interested in the accounting for this 'FACT'?!
Committments made? I doubt it. Same coach next year?
You seem to know a lot about Teir II yet you announce what's happening in midget next year. I say more idiot parent noise starting up from the newbie '94 ranks. (Isn't your kid going to the 'O' with a committment already?)
Giddee up!
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 1:14 PM |
My guess is the agent in question is former Buzzer Paul Capizano. He is a big part of the St. Mikes cult!!!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 1:24 PM |
hey 1:09, that's a great house league coach you have there. how's the view from 8th place asshole?
and speaking of midget hockey, what's it like to be on a super midget/juvy team???
keeping drinking the jonestown koolaid, you "looser". |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 1:29 PM |
Hey Midget daddy....your better off in Tier next year. It will only cost you 2 grand to play instead of the 5 grand you will be paying to play midget. If your kid could play he could save you money. To bad he cant. Thats a lot of cash for a Daddy who slings bagels at Tim Hortons!!!! See you Sunday at Chesswood. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 1:44 PM |
you're such an ass clown. my kid doesn't play midget hockey. although you can't help phuking up - your head must still be hurting from the 12-1 thumping from Burlington. just luv how coach depuppet kept Williams in for all 12. OUCH!!!
speaking of slinging, only a mental defective sling blade like you actually thinks his kid is on junior hockey team. lmafao!!!!! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 2:01 PM |
Now Now let's not lower ourselves to far down.
I think everyone wishes T2 was a better. A better T2 with less teams would also offer up a better Midget league. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 2:42 PM |
this is all about upset parents whose kid was cut or did not make it . Sure , keep telling yourself Midget is better ! |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 8:21 PM |
1:44pm...no need to make any harsh comments towards your post..Williams was in net for all 12 goals/ Why you ask, well the back-up for that game was injured and could not play just dressed for appearance sake, no other goalie was available that evening.
Every team is good for a thumping like that, take a look at some of the top teams out there, including Burlington who took a thumping from the Buzzers not to long ago 9-4 if I am correct, not bad for a midget team as you say Vs a top Caliber ranked team like Burlington.
Wake up and next get your facts straight before shooting of your mouth |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 8:27 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 9 2009, 11:05 PM |
lmao! you want to compare a 12-1 ass kicking at the halfway point to 9-4 over a month ago??? how can you compare an 11 goal differential to a 5 goal one? yah, that's a tight one alright. besides, Burlington gave up a little more in Carey than the Buzzards did in Lessio at Jr. A championship wouldn't you say.
and this justs mo' & mo' comical!! i love the goalie story - the backup is injured but dressed and no others available to the CCHL's flagship team?! now that's progessive hockey management for ya. and no worries on Williams shaking that off mentally or in his stats. nice going jughead. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 8:23 AM |
still very defensive. your the cartoon. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 8:56 AM |
11:05 if you were not at the game or aware of the situation of that game re: goaltending decisions and the extent of the injury of the back-up goalie that game then I would not be calling anyone a jughead. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 9:30 AM |
8:23, look who's being defensive. big game last sunday, next stop RBC! and tell us more about St. Mike's showing leadership and why an injured back-up is dressed for games. what a joke. go nominate coach depuppet for coach of the year and cog's dad as exec of the year. what a pathetic team.
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 9:54 AM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 10:07 AM |
Can't wait to sign-up next year. This circus is worth 2 grand for sure. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 10:32 AM |
Unfortunately no spots available for next year, you will have to play Midget again at $4000.00 plus per season. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 11:30 AM |
No worries as we weren't planning on signing with a team struggling to make the playoffs. I'll buy my kid a spot on a team where he can develop under a real coach, like Villa Nova, Markham or maybe the JRC - see you at Chesswood, enjoy another beating. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 12:05 PM |
lmao! looks good on ya sling blade. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 1:17 PM |
hey 10:32 (sling blade), Freud would say your fixation with trashing midget is because your kid really belongs there.
outside of a handful of players on the Buzzards, the rest actually belong in midget. don't tell me, but i'm guessing your son plays (if you can call that) defense. |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 1:45 PM |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 9:00 PM |
Actually a forward, that actaully plays a heck of alot more than your kid will if he were to play Jr A, and by the way I don't mind paying the fee for the amount of icetime and practice time we get and other perks. No regrets 1:17pm |
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Anonymous (no login) | Re: St. Mike's | December 10 2009, 10:16 PM |
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