Although only 16, Daniel is the brilliant criminal mastermind behind a hugely successful Ponzi scheme. He not only hoodwinked the directors, team owners, coaches and managers of the OMHA out of their life savings, he fleeced most of the GTHL folks as well. All this during while playing elite minor midget AAA hockey. He is currently living at large in his Honduras mansion, a country which has no extradition agreement with Canada. He may have swindled the Soo brass as well...story to continue...
For those of you who are internet impaired, the Cat is safe & sound playing for the Soo Greyhounds. The Soo has played 2 games and he has played in both as per the following.
Regular Season Stats
Season Team GP G A PTS +/- PIM
2009-10 Regular Season Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds 2 0 1 1 0 2
It's obvious many of the posts in this thread are in jest, pretty funny ones at that, however it appears there's some folks out there that are really clueless.
Ya right! Im sure the kid is posting on this site...... I think he has better things to do unlike yourself.
Hey buddy, the kid is in the OHL not in midget hockey like u. Only jealous midget parents and players come on this site to put down others that have moved on to play junior hockey.
This is not intended as a slant toward midget hockey and players.
Last I heard he was playing for the Soo, unless you heard otherwise, or maybe that's it, you had a revelation that your kid was in his shoes playing in the Soo
From what I know he is playeing for the Soo Greyhounds, and 1 assist in 2 games, If I am not mistaken Cousins has 4 points in the same 2 games. The fans in the Soo are quite critical and if Daniel dosen't put up some points soon there will be some very dissapointed fans and management, and they won't hold back on their critism of the 1st overall pick, they can be pretty critical of their players that arn't producing. I bet that Daniel won't last until Christmas in the Soo.
You sir are an idiot. This was a last place team with a weak coach, they will improve and the kid will get his points, there are kids coming back from NHL camps, let the season unfold for a month at least.
Cousins is the real deal. He actually played, contributed and improved during his minor midget year. Good thing for Soo that they had a second pick in the first round. Cat lived off his bantam results and then disappeared during all the key tournaments in minor midget but still kept pumping his tires throughout the year including the stupid banter on this site.
At the end of this season there will be no where else to hide and no more time.
You people are all idiots. This kid is playing in tho O not in midget AAA which this site is about. Catenacci is centering the first line and is playing on the first powerplay for the Soo Greyhounds. And is their best player as a 16 year old. Open up your eyes, the kid is awesome!
yea we are all idiots, he is playing on the first line on the worst team because a deal was made before he would report, and yes their best player is a 16 year old and his name is COUSINS. 4 points in 2 games, the stats speak for themselves.
Catenacci hasn't been putting the points up, however he's a better player than Cousins. PERIOD.
Cat is a far superior skater, has excellent vision of the ice, wins physical battles along the boards and is a 2 way player.
Cousins is very dangerous down low, however he doesnt pick up his defensive assignment and isn't very effective in his own end.
In regards to the depth chart, you have no clue. GM Dave Torrie just sent the team's top centre home, so Cat now centres the first line and is on the first line PP as well.
When Cat starts finding the back of the net you'll have nothing else to beak about.
Sept 23/09 3:11, by your statement "wait a month and see" arn't the rest of the rookies going to get better in a month, so how does a month help Daniel? If he developes good for him, but no matter how you say it, he is struggling right now, and for the person who is defending his play and critizing Cousins, unfortunatly a player is as valuable as the points he gets and not for his play behind the play. Anyone that knows anything about HOCKEY will tell you that points are the first thing that is looked at when evaluating a player (no matter how unfair that is), so 1 point in 3 games is not very good especially for a first overall pick, and 5 points for Cousins in 3 games is looking pretty good, To the person that stated that the first line center was sent home and is implying that it was to make room for Daniel on the first line, you are full of s--t, the player that was sent home had nothing to do with Daniel, so stop trying to make Daniel out to be something he isn't, the stats speak for themselves, or in this case lake of them.
i'm a hockey fan and rather than spout off about things that a) i have no clue about, or b) have an axe to grind cuz i'm from another team, i like to have 1st hand knowledge to make an informed opinion.
2:55, you're a stats clown. they mean nothing 3 games in. only a buffoon would say that Cousins is a better player. 4 months ago 20 teams took a pass on Cousins in the first round. so you know better??? this is exactly the same shyte that was spewed early on of mcfarland, gagner, etc. re: Michael Fine, i was making the point as to the depth of the team at centre (depth was the previous poster's point) > please s h o w me where i said Fine was sent home to make room for Cat???
By your won statement you have IMPLIED that he was sent home to make room for Daniel, by mentioning them in the same sentence, I am trying to figure out why you would even mention the player sent home, if not for that reason. And to clear up something, I have been around Hockey for 18 years and have gained some knowledge, and it is a proven fact that POINTS are refered to in the assesment of any player, 1 point in 3 games is not great, and after a month of conditioning and adjustment he might find the back of the net, but don't forget after a month all of the other rookies will also improve, and adjust, so right know although hard to swallow, Daniel is not looking like a first overall pick.
4:04, implied?? more like you assumed. you just proved what happens when you assume - i'll spare everyone the anectdotal word play.
fact: with Fine gone, Cat goes up in the centre position depth chart. what don't you understand about this??? finally, using CAPS and blithering on about it, is simply being argumentative to save face.
re: your "18 years of hockey knowledge", i can say i have more than you (and i do!), and like every other hot shot, ex-jock here that i was a knee/ankle/wrist injury away from making the show, yada, yada, yada ad nauseum. this amounts to jack squat on an anonymous forum.
stats do indeed mean something, however you are way too premature with your conclusions. i asked you how McFarland did last year. you either chose to ignore me, or you don't know shinola. fact: 7 games in, mcfarland had 1 point last year ... this year he will be selected within the top 15 of the NHL draft.
in terms of your astute: "1 month from now all rookies will be better", this is a meaningless generalization. most players improve. although it's far from being a linear thing as you make it out to be - some get better then plateau, some get better then really take-off ala mcfarland, gagner and countless other slow starters. based on what i saw last night, i choose the latter for the Cat.
it's always refresing to find 'knowledgeable hockey people' who draw conclusions & assess players based on desk analysis, rather than first hand evidence.
Who give a fuck is right! Are you that obbsessed with this kid? The kid went #1 and you are still on this site bashing. Get a grip, why not read all the positive articles that are being written in the Soo where they love him. He is 16 years old and playing in the OHL. That's enough said. Good luck Dan and by the way..... nice hits in Sudbury on that big goon! I was there you really flattened him.
Is network 54 a school test lol i`m a millionaire don`t need speeling ah teacher i will bring you an apple next visit,sorry my dad paid for private hockey lesson instead private shcool I AM WHAT I AM.lol
We are not all Cat lovers, I have seenn him play before and was not impressed, and was even less impressed with his Dads coaching style, so since we are all intitled to our opinions I will write whatever I want, and just because I don't agree with you that dosen't make me less knowagable than you. Oh and one more thing, just because you are drafted number 1 to the OHL dosen't mean you will be drafted to the NHL there are several top players in Minor Midget (or what was formally Bantam) that have not gone onto the AHL/NHL, and he is a tad small for the NHL, and that's one thing Mommy and Daddy can't fix.
Don't care if you are not a Cat lover or not. First of all the kid, pound for pound the strongest out there. My son had played with Dan for a few years until last season and have watched enough games to know. Don't like the dad's coaching style? The man has develops players, he has 6 players that are currently signed and playing in the OHL this season from our minor midget team. This is AMAZING and my kid isn't one of them. The kid is humble and one of the nicest kids around. You have a problem and it's called JEALOUSY. Me thinks you are the moderator of this forum that has a hard-on for this great player and his father. I read all your shit last season and you wouldn't let up. They don't read this crap and the only ones who do are us poor bastards that have to play another year of midget. Dan was the #1 pick and it burns your ass!
reading all this stuff makes me want to comment, the statements regarding stats or lack of them is true, example, the Rookie of the year in the OHL is given to the rookie with the highest number of points in his rookie season, in the NHL the rookie of the year is given to the rookie with the highest number of points, points acheived are the benchmark for determining a players worth, so who ever said it dosen't matter, it would seem knows nothing about the evaluation of a player. I don't think that anyone really cares about this so called Cat, where he plays, where he goes or where he ends up, the problem here is the fact that the parents and followers boosted this kid to be the next great one, and that my friends will never happen. Lets enjoy the season and see what transpires.
This is a learning year for all those 16 year old kids playing against men in the OHL. Give it a rest! All of them should be proud of just being on an OHL roster at 16. You have a problem when you have to come on this site and bash these kids in order to feel good about yourself or your son's short comings.
I might add that it's pretty amazing that 6 kids from one minor midget team were developed and are playing in the OHL. Winning and developing are two different things.
9:35, stats 3 games into the season mean nothing. try re-reading the posts for an explanation ... unless you're the very same ass clown who claimed othewise above.
There once was a man from Nantucket....who's dick was so long he could suck it! He Said with a grin, as he wiped off his chin....if my ear were a cunt I would fuck it!
There once was a man from Nantucket....who's dick was so long he could suck it! He Said with a grin, as he wiped off his chin....if my ear were a cunt I would fuck it!
Highly touted rookie Daniel Catenacci, who had an assist on the Livingston goal, was rocked by a hard check from Kingston captain Lashoff. At the end of the period he went to the dressing room under his own steam but was showing discomfort in his right leg.
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy when are you going to learn to stay off these sites, it's over, all that stuff you have spewed over the last 2 years will be seen for what it truly is, maybe you should start thinking of excuses now just so that you know what to say when people ask how the season is going.
2 assists and 172 in league scoring, I wonder how many years it's been since he was 172??? Without his father fattening the stats this could be hard for him to take. he may start to think, "Gee, I'm not as good as I thought I was."
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
Agreed with above post and it's got to be personal, maybe the kid got cut from YSE though they should still seek help. It's over the kid is talented went #1 and is now playing in the OHL...... get over it!
6:16, i too agree with the main content of your message.
However regarding the upcoming NHL draft, the current leading scorer in the O will go #1 overall and scored 2 goals in first game as a rookie.
As for Cat, the stats are meaningless right now. I watched him play against the Petes and the 67's. Baring serious injury or falling off the face of the planet, he will NOT go any lower than the 2nd round of the 2011 NHL draft.
The strongest kids his age ok at the end of the day ALL others will have to do is take steroids and BINGO they will even be stronger, can Cat grow to be 6"2 no here is the problem.... been there done that thank you very much (did that answer all your questions)
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
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(no login) Re: where is Catenacci September 28 2009, 6:15 PM
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
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(no login) Re: where is Catenacci September 28 2009, 6:15 PM
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
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(no login) Re: where is Catenacci September 28 2009, 6:15 PM
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
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(no login) Re: where is Catenacci September 28 2009, 6:15 PM
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
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(no login) Re: where is Catenacci September 28 2009, 6:16 PM
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
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(no login) Re: where is Catenacci September 28 2009, 6:16 PM
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
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(no login) Re: where is Catenacci September 28 2009, 6:30 PM
Agreed with above post and it's got to be personal, maybe the kid got cut from YSE though they should still seek help. It's over the kid is talented went #1 and is now playing in the OHL...... get over it!
Nancy is the kid's mother who doesn't have to come on this midget site unlike the poor angry soul who continues to bash a kid that at 16 years of age is playing in the OHL against men. Who ever you are that contiueously keeps bashing this kid should seek help. You don't know a thing about hockey and need some help to deal with the shortcomings of your own or those of your son's. Also, for your information the top player up for the NHL draft this year did not have a goal until his 11th OHL game. The top scorer at the present time also did not score until his 12th game not that it means anything. The fact is that this kid is developing by playing on a team that hasn't lost in 10 games, 5 exhibition and 5 regular season. He has scored in a shootout win and continues to develop. I follow these kids and wish them all well. Go Danny boy and the rest of the 93s in the OHL!
You are an evil individual and as a human being truly feel sorry for you and your family.
Good luck!
The strongest kids his age ok at the end of the day ALL others will have to do is take steroids and BINGO they will even be stronger, can Cat grow to be 6"2 no here is the problem.... been there done that thank you very much (did that answer all your questions)
8:42, i guess you're not aware that there is substance abuse, including steroids, random testing in the O. it's part of the contract that kids sign. go back to sleep.
Glad to see the success of this kid burns you up! Over 100 posts in a few days. Get a grip, your kid is a plug and you cant stand the fact that kids like Cat, Teichmann, Strome, Murphy, Cousins etc are all in the OHL doing well.
They are still working on getting every player tested ... however the hammer could drop at anytime.
Canadian Hockey League Embraces Drug Education & Anti-Doping Policy Program
Toronto, ON -- The Canadian Hockey League (CHL) announced today that it was entering into an agreement with the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport (CCES) to develop and adopt a CHL Drug Education & Anti-Doping Policy. The adoption of such a policy would be the first step in the implementation of a comprehensive drug education & anti-doping program that would apply to all three leagues in the CHL: Western Hockey League (WHL); Ontario Hockey League (OHL); and the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL). The QMJHL has been running a similar pilot program since 2004.
"We have a responsibility to our players and the Canadian public," stated David Branch, CHL President and Commissioner of the Ontario Hockey League. "The CHL strongly believes that the health and safety of our players is vital to maintaining a strong and vibrant league that is doping free."
"The QMJHL policy has clearly demonstrated the positive effect an anti-doping program can have on our sport." Mr. Branch said. "This is a model that we believe we should be embracing, a model that focuses on education and provides our players with the tools to make the right decisions." The new CHL Drug Education & Anti-Doping Policy will replace the current QMJHL policy.
While the policy will reside outside of the Canadian Anti-Doping Program (CADP), it will see the CCES test for the full range of substances found on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Prohibited List. As well, any players who commit an anti-doping rule violation will be listed on the CCES violations registry. This list is shared with WADA. Those players on the CCES violations registry would then be subject to the World Anti Doping Code compliant CADP when involved in sport outside of the CHL. This would include being prohibited from playing hockey or any other sport at the university, college, or Olympic level for Canada. As a CHL player, depending on the substance, the league is looking at five to ten game sanctions for first violations.
"We're putting together educational materials for the players in anticipation of starting testing in January 2007," said WHL Commissioner Ron Robison. "Parents and billets of CHL players will be provided with extensive resource information and materials. No testing will occur until all athletes have gone through the education program."
The QMJHL worked with the CCES to develop and implement its anti-doping policy and program in 2004. The program focused on education, detection, and deterrence. In two years of operating with an anti-doping policy in place, 60 tests have been conducted. There was only one positive result during that period.
"Our focus was on education and deterrence," said Gilles Courteau, Commissioner of the QMJHL. "We believe that the combination of education and testing sends a clear message to our players that there is no place for doping in sport." Mr. Courteau went on to praise the CHL for its proactive commitment towards the development and adoption of an anti-doping program for all of the leagues.
The CCES will work with the CHL to develop and implement its anti-doping policy and program. The CCES will provide a full education program and will implement all aspects of testing. As an independent, ISO certified, national anti-doping agency, the CCES will ensure that the CHL program will be administered in an open and transparent fashion to ensure public confidence and to eliminate the vested interests that often undermine the credibility of in-house programs.
"We believe that the CHL and its leagues are demonstrating tremendous leadership in protecting their sport and the health and safety of their players," commented Mr. Paul Melia, President and CEO of the CCES.
The CCES is committed to working with developmental and professional leagues across the country in order to assist them with the implementation of anti-doping programs for their league. "We believe that by working with leagues, such as the CHL, bringing anti-doping programs to the developmental level and ultimately the professional levels," stated Mr. Melia, "we can have a positive impact on Canada's domestic drug education & anti-doping program."
The CCES is a non-profit organization which promotes ethical sport for all Canadians through research, promotion, education, detection and deterrence. The CCES conducts many of these programs through partnerships with other organizations.
Re: Catenacci & Drugs!!!! how appropiate. Can't be
September 29 2009, 4:58 PM
Glad to see the success of this kid burns you up! Over 100 posts in a few days. Get a grip, your kid is a plug and you cant stand the fact that kids like Cat, Teichmann, Strome, Murphy, Cousins etc are all in the OHL doing well.
Re: Catenacci & Drugs!!!! how appropiate. Can't be
October 1 2009, 10:29 AM
September 25 2009, 8:52 AM
Were you at the game yesterday???
Catenacci hasn't been putting the points up, however he's a better player than Cousins. PERIOD.
Cat is a far superior skater, has excellent vision of the ice, wins physical battles along the boards and is a 2 way player.
Cousins is very dangerous down low, however he doesnt pick up his defensive assignment and isn't very effective in his own end.
In regards to the depth chart, you have no clue. GM Dave Torrie just sent the team's top centre home, so Cat now centres the first line and is on the first line PP as well.
When Cat starts finding the back of the net you'll have nothing else to beak about.
Re: Catenacci & Drugs!!!! how appropiate. Can't be
October 1 2009, 12:58 PM
It looks like Cousins has been doing what Cousins dose best "CHIRPPING". On that video, it appears that that he chirpped the wrong guy and now talks out the other side of his mouth because of the fat lip. My guess is that there will be many more of those before he learns to keep his BIG mouth shut.
Re: Catenacci & Drugs!!!! how appropiate. Can't be
October 1 2009, 2:36 PM
yup your smart! it was a hit from behind and i'm sure he finished the game. oh ya and he might be leading rookie scoring? and on a 5 and 0 team. not bad!
Re: Catenacci & Drugs!!!! how appropiate. Can't be
October 1 2009, 8:14 PM
Yep, two rookie centres playing on the first two lines of the Greyhounds, a team thats 5-0 and 10-0 if you count exhibition. Thats amazing! These two kids have contributed to the early success of the Greyhounds as we hear on the OHL website from their coach Denny Lambert. So stop chirping both of these kids as I only wish my son was in eithers shoes.
Yep, two rookie centres playing on the first two lines of the Greyhounds, a team thats 5-0 and 10-0 if you count exhibition. Thats amazing! These two kids have contributed to the early success of the Greyhounds as we hear on the OHL website from their coach Denny Lambert. So stop chirping both of these kids as I only wish my son was in eithers shoes.
Yep, two rookie centres playing on the first two lines of the Greyhounds, a team thats 5-0 and 10-0 if you count exhibition. Thats amazing! These two kids have contributed to the early success of the Greyhounds as we hear on the OHL website from their coach Denny Lambert. So stop chirping both of these kids as I only wish my son was in eithers shoes.
Momma bear, you do not multiple/flood post the St. Mike's thread. Only the "where is Catenacci" and "where is the 1st overall..." threads.
It's obvious you're too close to these Soo kids. You are doing way more harm than good with your flood of BS fluff posts. You are simply portraying them as divas and riling people up against them.
They have enough knowledgeable, articulate supporters, so go away and bake some cookies.
cats on the ice right now with 1 goal and 2 assists in 2nd period... just waiting for the clown with the big yap, anything to say about the Cat or is this still a lack lustre performance by a 16 yr old rookie
I was at the game last night, and for anyone who has anything negative about this #7 Kid then give your head a shake. This kid is unbelievable and will be a superstar what a skilled player
Three points is not four Four points, if you want to boost at least be accurate. Maybe part of his success is having strong players to play with and to help him along the way off the ice. Credit where credit is due.
Maybe credit should also go to Daniel himself. This kid (rookie) at 16 has played against the top lines in every OHL game he has played so far. He was put up against the hottest player in the league the other night and was first star of the game with 3 points. The previous night got 2 points and was second star. Whoever the jealous person costantly bashing him is please give your head a shake and try reading all the write-ups in the papers quoting his coach Lambert or GM Torrie.
ok. thanks mom and dad. why in the world does anyone feel the need to stick up for the players and satisfy the losers who keep questioning his ability. he's in the O, a rookie, playing great, and that's all folks. get a life already.
"Three points is not four Four points, if you want to boost at least be accurate. Maybe part of his success is having strong players to play with and to help him along the way off the ice. Credit where credit is due."
Wow...you morons never stop. How about he's just plain good, and you idiots are just a bunch of jealous assholes who are not going to see the flame-out you have been predicting and wishing for all these years while Daniel was lighting up your kid's team. Boggles my mind...
How does someone misstating facts boggle your mind? The team is doing well, his line is doing well, he has his first goal after 7 games of first line play, he appears to be doing well. No one wins by them self. Cousins is playing great as is Vern Cooper. Livingston is anchoring the line as he should as a big veteran just returned from an NHL camp.
Why bother defending the kid, if morons want to post negative crap let them, it is only you fanning the fire that keeps them going. The kid is doing fine. Hey, what about 92 born Tyler Seguin, now there is a story.
Linemates Daniel Catenacci and James Livingston joined Muzzin and netminder Robin Lehner as standouts for the home team Saturday.
Catenacci, the first player taken in this year's draft, scored the first goal of his OHL career and assisted on two others. Livingston also notched a goal and two assists while Muzzin scored once, set up another and anchored the Hounds defence.
Though he didn't face a lot of quality chances, Lehner was again strong, blanking the Whalers until Tyler Seguin scored his 11th goal of the season, a power-play marker at 18:16 of the final period.
Matched against Seguin, the league's leading scorer, and wingers Tyler G. Brown and Myles McCauley, the line of Catenacci between Livingston and Tomas Rachunek played brilliantly at both ends of the ice.
Going head-to-head with
Seguin, Catenacci admitted, was a challenge he welcomed.
"We were lined up against that line all night and we had to worry about them scoring," the speedy rookie said. "We kept him (Seguin) down until the end and we ended up getting offensive success while defending him."
"Challenging him (Catenacci), drives him," added Lambert, whose club held a 33-29 edge in shots. "He played so well tonight (Saturday) with tons of energy."
"We're working so hard as a line," said Livingston. "We have a good combination of speed and grit and we're jelling as a line."
Catenacci beat the Whalers netminder to the blocker side and was greeted by a standing ovation from the Essar Centre faithful.
I'm not related to him. My kids didn't play in the OMHA. I'm not a fan of the Soo. Btw, every top 10 prospect is over-hyped, that's just the way it is.
If this kid continues as he is, he will represent Canada at the U-18's & U-20's. And he will also be drafted in the first round of the 2011 NHL draft. You can take that to the bank while waving the flag and thumbing your nose at the US.
Catenacci LEADING ALL Rookies with 7 points in 7 Games. Is the first line centre with the Soo Greyhounds, and Had to play against the leagues top player , Tyler Seguin and shut him down, and got 3 points that game and First star. The kidis the best 16 year old by far and will go #1 in 2011!
if i pulled the troll card directly, i'm sure some sh!t would fly.
between the folks that are a little too enthusiastic and the trolls playing it up, you end-up with this messed up thread where the honest comments are lost.
Shut Tyler Seguin down........that is funny, give it a rest. Once, and if, Catenacci can match the numbers of Seguin, then make such a comment. One game people, see where Cat is at come Xmas. Good luck
yea back with the truth, as of Friday October 16, 2009, Daniel Catanacci has 1 goal and 6 assists in 10 games, not really what you expect from a first overall pck, he is 7th in rookie scoring. As I said not what you would expect from the frst overall pick.
Hey here is a concept, but it might be hard for you to understand, if you don't like what is written then atay off the site, no one is forcing you to read it, find another thing to do.
After tonights game, he has 1 goal and 6 assists in 11 games, 2 penalties tonight for interference on goaltender, and with him in the box a goal was scored, not a great showing so far but you never know things could turn around.
AFter tonights game October 17/09, Catenacci has 1 goal and 6 asists in 12 games, he was kept out of the scoring and registered a -1 and 2 minutes in penalties.
lets see, all the bu--sh-t build up of this kid last year, and now it shows that he was not deserving of the first overall pick, 1 goal in 12 games, and lets not forget playing on the first line, I hope that he picks it up real soon or there will be some very dissapointed fans up here in the Soo, if there isn't already.
Relax Chump, The kid is doing well and they love him up there in the Soo. Why don't read the papers in the Soo before you blab crap on this site. And by the way, The Top Scorer in the OHL this season Tyler Seguin did not score his first goal until his 12th game last season. You gave a serious problem buddy...Give it a rest!!!
Exactly, this is just some jealous prick who continues to bash all these great kids because his own kid is a plug. These kids in the OHL are all doing well, this year is a learning year for all of them.
regarding O'Reilly, have you been living in a cave for the past month, he is still with the Colorado Avelanche as could possibly stay for the whole season, in his rookie season playing in 61 games he had 52 points and in the next season had 66 points in 68 games, John McFarland in his rookie season had 52 points in 58 games, and this season has 13 points in 15 games, with Catenacci's 7 points in 12 games it's not even a fair comparison.
He is in a slump, and has not found his way yet, but don't go comparring him to others who have had outstanding rookie seasons.
Anyone who thinks that 16yr olds come into this league and dominate need to look at the facts. Mcfarland had 3 points in 10 games or so in his first month of play, its how it happens. Many players are lucky to get 10-20 points a year. Its an adjustment year for them. Id ignore all the ripping of cat on here, hes such a good player it doesnt really matter what they think.
To the guy who knows it all should go on the OHL web site to see that Tyler Seguin the current OHL leader did not score his first OHL goal until his 16th game
"To the guy who knows it all you should go on the OHL web site to see that Tyler Seguin the current OHL leader did not score his first OHL goal until his 16th game"
Finally someone does research:
-Seguin had 0 goals 8 assists for 8 points after his first 12 games. He had 1 goal and 8 assists for 9 points after 17 games.
-McFarland scored his first goal after 8 games. He had 3 goals and 5 assists for 8 points after his 12th game.
-Skinner also had 8 points after his 14th game.
-Nazem Kadri had 1 goal and 2 assists for 3 points after his 12th game in his rookie season. his final numbers were 62 games played 7 goals 15 assists for 22 points.
This is to put it all in perspective for those idiots who bash these kids on this site like Strome, because he has no points or Catenacci who's got 7 points in 12 games and others. These kids are doing great, keep it up! Those idiots will be writing jealous crap on this site while you boys are living the the dream of playing OHL hockey at 16 years of age.
Good luck to all our 93s in the OHL, you all should be proud of your accomplishments!!!
no one is knocking the acomplishments of these 16 year olds, the problem here is the constant pumping up of Catenacci, it happened all last year and is still happening, for goodness sake stop trying to make him out to be somthing he isn't. The constant comparisons to others means nothing, he has to do it on his own, in his own time, every player is different, but come on people stop trying to make him out to be so outstanding, because his stats don't show it, and unfortunatly stats are used when evaluating a player.
so different without dad the kid hardly played last year maybe some more work needs to be done on who decide the 1st pick cuz this 1st pick i don`t think should have been 1st my opinion the kid won`t pay my rent so really i don`t care.
IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT HOCKEY (WHICH YOU DONT) YOU WOULD SEE AND SPEAK THE TRUTH ABOUT A PLAYER AND NOT LET YOUR JEALOUSY GET IN THE WAY. THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO ANYONE PUTTING THIS KID DOWN.
why does it bothers you so much ???this site is for opinion you did not know that`s some people like you some don`t i think they made a big deal for nothing i don`t understand why???he is small even doesn`t have nhl size it will hurt him in the end you will see i have seen big cars pass by before.
Here we go again with bashing Midget hockey. Lot's of decent NHLers have played Midget hockey and lots of OHLers never made the show. It goes either way.
Nancy you really need to stay off this site, for only a parent would defend their kid like you have on this site, lets face it Daniel is small, is not producing right now and has not found his way in the OHL, big F-CKING DEAL, STOP trying to convince everyone about how great he is, and while we are on the topic of Daniel, lets talk about how your husband, his coach, boosted his stats last season to make his stats look better, everyone knows that he didn't get the points that were given to him. Lets hope he proves everyone wrong and we won't have to put up with Nancy's constant inflation of her sons abilities.
I DONT NEED TO CONVINCE MYSELF AS I ALREADY KNOW MY SON WILL NEVER MAKE IT PROFESSIONALLY. HE PLAYS MIDGET AND WE LOVE IT FOR THE FRIENSHIPS AND LIFE LESSONS. WHAI I DO DONT LIKE IS YOU THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO PUT DOWN GREAT KIDS LIKE DANIEL THAT MY SON HAS PLAYED WITH AND WE AS A FAMILY ADORE. IF YOU WOULD ONLY FOCUS ON THE FUN OF THE SPORT AND NOT BE RIPPING THE KIDS I WOULDNT BE SO NASTY MYSELF.
"To the guy who knows it all you should go on the OHL web site to see that Tyler Seguin the current OHL leader did not score his first OHL goal until his 16th game"
Finally someone does research:
-Seguin had 0 goals 8 assists for 8 points after his first 12 games. He had 1 goal and 8 assists for 9 points after 17 games.
-McFarland scored his first goal after 8 games. He had 3 goals and 5 assists for 8 points after his 12th game.
-Skinner also had 8 points after his 14th game.
-Nazem Kadri had 1 goal and 2 assists for 3 points after his 12th game in his rookie season. his final numbers were 62 games played 7 goals 15 assists for 22 points.
This is to put it all in perspective for those idiots who bash these kids on this site like Strome, because he has no points or Catenacci who's got 7 points in 12 games and others. These kids are doing great, keep it up! Those idiots will be writing jealous crap on this site while you boys are living the the dream of playing OHL hockey at 16 years of age.
Good luck to all our 93s in the OHL, you all should be proud of your accomplishments!!!
-Seguin had 0 goals 8 assists for 8 points after his first 12 games. He had 1 goal and 8 assists for 9 points after 17 games.
-McFarland scored his first goal after 8 games. He had 3 goals and 5 assists for 8 points after his 12th game.
-Skinner also had 8 points after his 14th game.
-Nazem Kadri had 1 goal and 2 assists for 3 points after his 12th game in his rookie season. his final numbers were 62 games played 7 goals 15 assists for 22 points.
This is to put it all in perspective for those idiots who bash these kids on this site like Strome, because he has no points or Catenacci who's got 7 points in 12 games and others. These kids are doing great, keep it up! Those idiots will be writing jealous crap on this site while you boys are living the the dream of playing OHL hockey at 16 years of age.
Good luck to all our 93s in the OHL, you all should be proud of your accomplishments!!!
"To the guy who knows it all you should go on the OHL web site to see that Tyler Seguin the current OHL leader did not score his first OHL goal until his 16th game"
Finally someone does research:
-Seguin had 0 goals 8 assists for 8 points after his first 12 games. He had 1 goal and 8 assists for 9 points after 17 games.
-McFarland scored his first goal after 8 games. He had 3 goals and 5 assists for 8 points after his 12th game.
-Skinner also had 8 points after his 14th game.
-Nazem Kadri had 1 goal and 2 assists for 3 points after his 12th game in his rookie season. his final numbers were 62 games played 7 goals 15 assists for 22 points.
This is to put it all in perspective for those idiots who bash these kids on this site like Strome, because he has no points or Catenacci who's got 7 points in 12 games and others. These kids are doing great, keep it up! Those idiots will be writing jealous crap on this site while you boys are living the the dream of playing OHL hockey at 16 years of age.
Good luck to all our 93s in the OHL, you all should be proud of your accomplishments!!!
I love it, pissing you off! The kid has been gone for quite a while and you still can't let go of your obsession with this kid. Please seek help and focus positive energy on your own child.
Wow, looks like I missed quite the party today. lol!
2:16, you're a hammerhead. You're judging O'Reilly now after 2 years in the O? This is an apples & oranges comparison. Making a judgement now is simply HINDSIGHT - it's non-sequitor to a comparison of players at a point in time of their development. It's as inane as saying Duchene is worth a bag of pucks because he doesn't produce like Iginla.
My point was his first month or so in the O, and basically his O career. Unlike you, I have not been living in a cave - please explain to me how "deserving" of the 1st overall he was when he was only drafted in the 2nd round of the NHL draft? Players, like point spreads in games are constantly being re-evaluated. Some 1st overalls like McFarland, Seguin and others start slow, and yet others (ie. true PHENOMS) such as JT and Stammer were great right out of the gate (in the O).
This crap about Cat is the same shyte that was spewed on the boards for Gagner when he was on the U-17 and playing in the USHL. It is so tired to people who have a clue.
There is no one (with half a brain) in the Soo worried at this point. Anyone saying otherwise is doing so thru their sphincter. Let's see how he does in Timmins.
so it looks like he has 8 points in 15 games, 2 goals and 6 assists, at this rate he will possibly end up with 10 goals and 28 assista in 68 games this season, if he continues at this rate.
42--993's have played 10 or more games in the OHL this year so far
The leading scorers are:
Meurs, 12 points in 13 games = .923 ppg
Jenner, 11 points in 14 games = .785 ppg
Quine, 10 points in 16 games = .625 ppg
Cousins, 10 points in 16 games = .625 ppg
Catenacci, 9 points in 16 games =.563 ppg
Trochek, 9 points in 16 games =.563 ppg
Draw your own conclusions. Anybody who disses Catenacci or anybody else for scoring at a .563 ppg pace after 16 games as a rookie in the OHL needs a kick in the stones with a frozen skate. There ya go.
I don't spend my time watching stats, I spend my time watching hockey, and the Cat is the real deal. Like the other poster said, have you seen th Cat play with the Soo??
You are right. I posted the stats to prove that Cat IS the real deal. My point is that his pace is pretty damn good. Taken over 68 games, that translates into 38 goals as a rookie. And don't forget, unlike just about all of the other rookies, he is playing on the top line which means he's playing against the other teams best forwards and D. Any other morons want to try and argue that he's not the real deal? Sorry...the numbers prove otherwise.
I think that the point is that he should be leading all rookies in scoring, after all he was the #l pick, and all the hype on him last year. 9 points in 16 games as a rookie is not great, as someone posted and isn't even that impressive, and you people who keep pumping up this kid really need a reality check, lines on a hockey team change all the time and he is not always playing against the other teams top line, and I don't have to watch a game played by the Soo to know that stats ARE the number one tool used to evaluate a players performance, and whoever thinks otherwise dosen't have a clue about how to evaluate a player, do you teally think that evaluators really care if a player can carry the puck up the ice only to lose it in the offensive zone, or carry the puck cause a turnover that results in a goal, NO they only care about points. Have you ever heard of an OHL player with ZERO points in his OHL career get drafted to the NHL? Absolutley not, because points are a way of determining a players ability ot play the game, and as muck as I disagre with that way of thinking, it is true, so unless you are able to put it in the net, you are not concidered a premier player in any league.
"I don't have to watch a game played by the Soo to know that stats ARE the number one tool used to evaluate a players performance, and whoever thinks otherwise dosen't have a clue about how to evaluate a player"
2:32, you're a poser and an ass clown.
stats are only part of the equation. go to any OHL game on any given night. there are at least half a dozen NHL scouts taking notes, analyzing player's strengths and weakness with & without the puck.
i've been thru this with you before. your 18 years of hockey experience can be summarized in a bottle of ex.
Read the stats this way too...
Jenner, 1st place team...Cat, last place team.
O'Reilley did amazing considering he played for Erie. If he had of played for Kitchener or Windsor or London he would have been right up there with Tavares.
Problem is you have to play for who drafts you or run the risk of not playing at all in the O (Lessio is the first kid to get out of his obligation since I started following the O (over 10 years).
Funny that you mention Mayer, he was drafted to the Soo and refused to report and was traded to the Mississauga St. Mikes Majors, and one more thing, in all the years that I have been following hockey, never have I heard such exaggeration of a players abbilities as I have with Daniel Catenacci, for goodness sakes people stop trying to make him out to be more than he is, let the season play out and make your judgements after the season is over, and to the ones boosting this kid, you are doing him no favors.
exageration? just wait for next great hope then compare it will be X2. Heck I heard how great Crosby was at drinking out of a water bottle- can you believe that people would be amazed over that sort of thing? This same group will be extolling the virtues of the next amazing AAA atom player - oH he's going to the show- or he's the greatest thing since sliced bread- or I've never seen a player like that before. Is this human nature or just crazy hockey people. Do you know?
Not too many kids will be a Tavares or Hall but Catenacci is a damn good hockey player. Watched him play a few games this season and does not look like a rookie out there. Please stop your stupid jealous comments. As for points, look at last years totals and he is on above average pace after 16 games played. Tyler Seguin did not score his first goal until his 16th game. He now leads the OHL a year later. It's a package scouts look for not just points as points will continue to come as these boys get confidence later into the season. Most of the rookies scored 80% of their points in the last half of the season.
Give up your obsession with Catenacci, Strome...etc
How about you give up your obsession, you come on here and complain about the posts of others and you seem like the one with the obsession about him, making hom seem better than he is, give it a rest already.
I have an obsession about being honest and protecting all 16 year olds playing in the best developmental league in the world. These kids are doing amazing just holding their own in such a tough league as 16 year olds and your jealousy brings you here to bash them. You should be ashamed and by the way Strome got his first goal tonight! Congrats Ryan!!!
I don't find my comments "Bashing", In fact mine are more truthfull than yours, last year when Catenacci was playing for his Dad, stats were exagerated to make him look better, sure he is a good player, but there is no way he acheived the points stated last year and everyone who had anything to do with the team he was on knows it. So we come to this year, and no Dad on the bench and his true stats are showing, how am I bashing him? The stats are there for everyone to see on the OHL website, in the games everyone sees how he plays, good or bad everyone who is at the games sees, and it's a metter of opinion if he is playing good or living up to the hype, and it's my opinion that he is not, now you call it bashing, I call it MY OPINION. If you have another opinion good for you, but don't say other people are bashing him just because they don't agree with you.
Linemates Daniel Catenacci and James Livingston joined Muzzin and netminder Robin Lehner as standouts for the home team Saturday.
Catenacci, the first player taken in this year's draft, scored the first goal of his OHL career and assisted on two others. Livingston also notched a goal and two assists while Muzzin scored once, set up another and anchored the Hounds defence.
Though he didn't face a lot of quality chances, Lehner was again strong, blanking the Whalers until Tyler Seguin scored his 11th goal of the season, a power-play marker at 18:16 of the final period.
Matched against Seguin, the league's leading scorer, and wingers Tyler G. Brown and Myles McCauley, the line of Catenacci between Livingston and Tomas Rachunek played brilliantly at both ends of the ice.
Going head-to-head with
Seguin, Catenacci admitted, was a challenge he welcomed.
"We were lined up against that line all night and we had to worry about them scoring," the speedy rookie said. "We kept him (Seguin) down until the end and we ended up getting offensive success while defending him."
"Challenging him (Catenacci), drives him," added Lambert, whose club held a 33-29 edge in shots. "He played so well tonight (Saturday) with tons of energy."
"We're working so hard as a line," said Livingston. "We have a good combination of speed and grit and we're jelling as a line."
Catenacci beat the Whalers netminder to the blocker side and was greeted by a standing ovation from the Essar Centre faithful.
"and one more thing, in all the years that I have been following hockey, never have I heard such exaggeration of a players abbilities as I have with Daniel Catenacci"
4:27, i tried it the nice way ... but i'm just going to have to call bullshit on ya.
Catenacci is the simply the flavour of the month. the hype is no different than McFarland last year, or Hall (although he went 2nd, his 1st year in the league Cherry did a quick bio on him on coach's corner as he was a good ole Kingston boy and Bobby Orr fan), or Stammer, JT and Couture.
together with you not knowing about Fowler & Mayer in your 10 years of league experience, i'm smelling the reak of chanel no. poseur.
THESE KIDS ARE SIMPLY FEELING THEIR WAY IN THE LEAGUE. ALL OF THEM SHOULD BE PROUD JUST TO BE PLAYING AS 16 YEAR OLDS IN SUCH A GREAT LEAGUE WITH FUTURE NHL SUPERSTARS. THIS EXPERIENCE WILL MAKE THESE KIDS THAT MUCH BETTER AND GIVE THEM CONFIDENCE. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF THEM...OH, BY THE WAY, NICE GOAL DANNY BOY!
The Greyhounds have a game tonight, and with Jordan Nolan's first game of the season, it is quite possible that Nolan will replace Catenacci on the line with Livingston. Should be interesting as Livingston and Nolan have a chemistry on the ice and were their top line last year, and I can't see Coach Lambert leaving a rookie (with not a lot of scoring so far) on the top line with a veteran coming back. But as I said it should be interesting.
Not interesting at all as Nolan is a winger. Catenacci played very well with Nolan in training camp from early articles. The idea was to have an enforcer like Nolan play with the Cat being a rookie. So I wouldn't worry about anything.
Not worried but obsessed of this kid me thinks. You probably know how many times he shits a day. After what happenened to Fanelli you should be ashamed posting negative crap.
You are the asshole you piece of shit! Don't be putting these kids down especially at a time when one of them is in critical condition. You are a fucking low life loser!!!
11;25, 11;39 and 1;16, wow, you people need to get help, I read the comments of the poster at 9;55 and in NO way was that a critical comment, the person was just stating that a veteran is returning and the lines MIGHT get switched around, and no one mentioned the injury to Fanelli, so why the harsh response?
There is a forum website called the NOOF (New OHL open forum) where people openly talk about teams and players and on that site there is a forum topic regarding Rookies and new talent, several posters have written about rookies and what has impressed them so far this year, and with 7 comments made, not one of them wrote of Catenacci, now I am not sure if they just haven't had the opportunity to see him play of they have and are not impressed. But you would think that the first everall pick would have impressed somone other than his parents.
Nick Cousins, a good Quinte boy I must add, has got himself straightened out from his party days while playing minor midget in Quinte. Both Nick Cousins and Daniel Catenacci are on fire with the Soo having reat rookie campaigns.
Your really gonna say that? Catenacci is having a pretty good rookie year as a 16 yah old playing in the OHL. Now aways with all the great players 19+ in the O it makes it awfully hard for a 16 year old rookie to break in the league putting up John Taveras like numbers. Give him a chance. He is in a good environment in the Soo playing with another reat young talent in Nick Cousins. Give them both a chance.
Could someone PLEASE explain to me how with 2 goals and 8 assists in 19 games Daniel Catenacci is having a great rookie season? It would seem that people are posting these comments and I am having a hard time trying to figure out what they are talking about, a first overall pick with 2 goals in 19 games it would seem like a medioker season to me.
Watch the games and how the kid competes playing against the top players in the league and not third or fourth liners and there you have it. The goals will come, it's the rest of his game the kid comes with the full package whether you like it or not. Watch one of his OHL games and you will see why announcers get excited watcing him play as the guy did last night in the Windsor game.
Well that explains it then dosen't it, a WIndsor announcer who is buy far the biggest homer announcer, decides to talk about a Soo player, on a team that has nothing else to talk about, but hey thanks for taking the time to try and explain.
if you watched the game you would know they interview the kid during the intermission. They reffered to him during the game on how well he plays as a rookie according to some nice plays the kid made during the game while showing great potential. That's all.
are you that stupid, of course they interview him, it goes along with being the First overall pick, he will be interviewed in every city he plays in, not because of his outstanding play or lack of it.
I think that Catenacci will not last past Christmas in the Soo. His parents will ask for a trade and use the excuse for his poor showing on the inexperienced coaching staff not being able to handle a player of his superior abilities.
9:10, we all know his age, and we all know how people have pumped up this kid last year and even this year, but the stats show he isn't having a "GREAT" season as some posters have stated, in the OHL he is less than average in scoring, and people will leave it alone when his team of idiots stop pimping him and admit that he is an average player and nothing more.
Honestly, I see him as an average player, but he if he turns things around, a player that could score 50 goals a season in the OHL, as far as the NHL draft, that is hard to predict, it all deoends on what NHL teams are looking for in that draft, teams that are looking for smaller, faster players would consider him, and teams that need bigger stronger players won't. But remember just because he was drafted first overall to the OHL dosen't guarantee he will be drafted to the NHL.
i beg to differ and consider him an above average player. even if he continues as is, he will go no later than 3rd round. take note, as this forum will die soon...too many psychos.
I agree. The OHL is not a league of first year players. The 93's will be good 2 years from now after their draft year. Not too many OHL players get drafted and go straight to the NHL. Obviously there are exceptions but even John Tavares played 3 years in the OHL.
I need to respond to the clow that continues to put down all the 93's.
Just to put things in perspective I've done research and The top 92 rated player in this coming NHL Draft is Tyler Seguin. He had 3 goals and 12 assists for 15 points in his rookie year after 23 games. He currently has 19 goals and 17 assists for 36 points in 18 games. Also to note Seguin did not register his first OHL goal until his 16th game of the season.
John McFarland the first over-all pick last season finished 9th in rookie scoring with 21 goals and 31 assists for 52 points he is currently ranked in the top 10 picks of the first round of the 2010 NHL Draft.
I can tell you that everyone in the Soo organization is very happy with Cat's game. Just like Barrie is very happy with Strome, Brampton is very happy with Goodrow, Guelph is very happy with Mitchell and Sandlak...etc. NHL scouts are not only looking at a players stats, if that was the case then Ryan O'reilly another first over-all OHL pick two years ago scored 16 and 19 goals in his two OHL seasons. At age 18 he is now playing in the NHL for Colorado and has 14 points in 18 games with a +13 rating. You see, there are other things scouts look for.
I'm just sick of this person that needs to bash these kids for his own, or his son's short-comings,
plus I have some time here at work it's a little slow this morning. Have a good day!
First of all 1:17 I am not bashing all 93's, as a matter of fact I am not bashing anyone, just stating the facts, If you can't handle the truth then find another hobby, I have not ever mentioned any player other then the one that this topic is about, so stop trying to make something out of nothing.
I am well aware of OHL players that have gone onto the NHL from the OHL in the last 2 years, Wayne Simmonds LA, Drew Doughty NY, Steven Stamkos TB, John Tavares NY, Matt Duchene CA, and Ryan O'Rielly CA, so no need to write about them. None of their supporters did what Catenacci's have done. If you really think that he really had all those goals last year in Minor Midget then you are the fool. The stats were inflated and everyone knows it well maybe except you.
Now on the topic of my son, he has gone on to have a very successfull OHL career, and thats the reason for my posts, it is not nescessary to continually brag about this kid who has not shown that he is the outstanding player you seem to think he is, 2 goals in 20 games for a first overall pick is terrible plain and simple. Instead of bringing up stats of others that have a slow start, why don't you bring up the stats of the players that have has great first 20 games and I am sure you will see a difference.
Why should he give is son name this is about Cat and all the bull around me too i don`t bash the kids facts 1st round supose to be the best what is all this bull ???or what?? whoever dicided on this pick was sleaping.TOO SMALL TOO SMALL.
it is irrevelant who my son is, and I don't need ANY credibility with a public forum, I have stated facts that are available for everyone to find on the internet, therefore the credibility is acheived from the information.
I don't know why all U guys get excited about a sport that can't draw a viewing audience. Take a look at all those empty seats down south. It is a true reflection of a poor developing system for the NHL.
There is a big difference between "QUALITY"and"QUANTITY" towards development.
I need to respond to the clow that continues to put down all the 93's.
Just to put things in perspective I've done research and The top 92 rated player in this coming NHL Draft is Tyler Seguin. He had 3 goals and 12 assists for 15 points in his rookie year after 23 games. He currently has 19 goals and 17 assists for 36 points in 18 games. Also to note Seguin did not register his first OHL goal until his 16th game of the season.
John McFarland the first over-all pick last season finished 9th in rookie scoring with 21 goals and 31 assists for 52 points he is currently ranked in the top 10 picks of the first round of the 2010 NHL Draft.
I can tell you that everyone in the Soo organization is very happy with Cat's game. Just like Barrie is very happy with Strome, Brampton is very happy with Goodrow, Guelph is very happy with Mitchell and Sandlak...etc. NHL scouts are not only looking at a players stats, if that was the case then Ryan O'reilly another first over-all OHL pick two years ago scored 16 and 19 goals in his two OHL seasons. At age 18 he is now playing in the NHL for Colorado and has 14 points in 18 games with a +13 rating. You see, there are other things scouts look for.
I'm just sick of this person that needs to bash these kids for his own, or his son's short-comings,
plus I have some time here at work it's a little slow this morning. Have a good day!
1:17 did Cat fuck your wife or maybe ur daughter? You have a problem I played with Cat he was our best player for years on our team Ur a creepy man putting down this kid making shit up. U now told us you have a kid in the O and the only kids father that would be on here from the O is Jenner cuz he's got a brother but if Jenner is ur son he cant skate so u shouldnt be on her talking.
5:39 you nailed it on the "head" this just shows this guy has a bone to pick with Cat for probably fucking his wife and daughter together with his big hog!
With the Greyhounds off for 6 days, (no games), it will be interesting to see if Cat and Company can get something going. They don't play until Saturday in the Soo. Hopefully he can generate some scoring.
No points for the Cat in tonights game and the hounds loose 6-3. so lets see thats 2 goals and 8 assists for the first overall pick in 22 games, he is on track for 8 goals this season. WOW.
NO different, (Actually better) then Macfarland, who had to deal with the same N54 crap as Catenacci has. MacFarland is still considered a top 30 player for the NHL draft. Lets give it time shall we?
I am so sick of your bul-sh-t excuses, if you bothered to read the Soo fan forum, even the fans in the Soo are getting tired of his do it all myself attitude only to come up short, cetting the puck up the ice, skating around all the other teams players, only to do nothing. Come on be realistic here, he is NOT having a good start (for that matter season so far), just cut the crap and be truthfull, he is not what he was made out to be, and unfortunatly it shows, the stats speak for themselves. Oh and one more thing how tall is he really?
You know what buddy, no one is ripping on any 16 year olds, just stating facts that are on the net for the world to see, I just find it hard to believe that no matter what this kid does he never does anything wrong. Well understand this, 2 goals in 22 games no matter how old you are isn't great and no way to start of an OHL career.
Or any OHL rookie. Seguin had like 3 goals in 18 games last year, how is he doing now? Greg McKegg had 8 goals all year, and is now a point a game player.
Rookies struggle in the OHL, they always do with a few exceptions. It has been going on that way for years. To ignore that history and say that Cat is struggling is either
1. Ignorance, or
2. Purposely misleading.
I hope its #1, because #2 would just be what others have said, ripping on 16 year olds.
Do you guys know nothing about the OHL? Rookies never do well unless they are 17. Chill out if DC sucks like you say youll have plenty of time to say it, but very few 16yr olds do well in the O.
No points for Catenacci in tonights game, 2 goals and 8 assists in 23 games, he is on track for 6 goals this season. Now before we hear any exucses or comparisons to other players I would like to make something clear, I do not blame Daniel for his play rather the people who made him out to be something he isn't and put so much pressure on him, and all the stuff written and said about him over the last 2 seasons would seem to much of a boosting for the kid to live up to. Unfortunatly his stats speak for themselves, and I agree with the poster who said "If he isn't the best then why did he go first overall". There have been lots of 16 year old rookies drafted to the OHL who have had better seasons than would seem Daniel is having, and the difference is that NONE of their supporters come on a public site and constantly brag about how great a player they were, for goodness sake, all you are doing is putting pressure on a 16 year old kid, who isn't living up to your expectations. Leave the kid alone, and that would mean all the prople who are boosting this kid.
lol man 10:20 and others, do you guys report what the kid eats? What his marks are. Stalkers much! Let the kid play for F sake, its 20 games into his OHL career, lets not call him a flop 2 months in, thats what they where saying about the Seguin's of the world.
If this kid ever gets hurt in a game I think this forum will explode with happiness from the stalkers and co. Sad that it is this bad. Good Kid, Skilled, everyone had him #1. Stop with the chirping whats it solve? Honestly? I dont see the point of it. I find it scarier that Adults take so much joy in the struggles of a 16 year old, who really is not struggling. 10 points in 23 games is good for a 16 year old. 6th in rookie scoring.
2 goals in 24 games is not a great way to start the season, no points in the game tonights win the Soo won 7-0 and not a single point by the first overall pick, Cousins has a goal and an assist, he has 14 points in 24 games, and he is passed over for the U-17 team, someone said in an earlier post that when picking the U-17 team thay should look a performance and not the draft order.
doesnt really matter what anyone thinks on this site most people on here are not playing Junior hockey. He is getting great development by playing against top lines in the OHL and is on team Ontario, I only wish my kid was in his shoes or in anyone of the fortunate kds to have those opportunities...... Thats the skinny.
We all know the problem with cat this year is he does not have the real deal Murphy setting him up all game like last year, and no father double shifting him and staying on for all the powerplay time.
Well than maybe the parents SHOULD have thought about the pressure that they put on him with all the crap they put in the paper and all the stuff thay said about the kid, the only pressure put on him was by his own PARENTS. If you want to blame anyone blame them.
SAW BOTH THESE KIDS PLAY IN GUELPH TONIGHT CAT HAD A GREAT GAME WITH GOOD ICE TIME FOR A ROOKIE SO DID COUSINS. THEY BOTH LOOKED VERY GOOD AND ARE DOING JUST FINE. SO RELAX ON THE POINT STUFF, THEY ARE BOTH ROOKIES WITH GREAT POTENTIAL. JUST WATCH A GAME AND YOU WILL SEE HOW BOTH THESE GUYS FIT IN AND ARE DOING VERY WELL.
6:59, I couldn't agree more 2 goals in 25 games is not a good start, not even for a later pick never mind the first overall. I can tell Mommy and Daddy are still coming on here trying to make everyone believe their son is better than he is. No one with any hockey sence would say that 2 goals in 25 games is great, except them.
he got one...he got one...in the game last night Catenacci got the second goal in a 2-0 victory over the Sarnia Sting, so thats 3 goals in 26 games and 8 assists for 11 points.
No points in the Soo's win tonight, had a little free time at work and I looked up some previous 1st overall picks and this is what I found.
2002 Rob Schremp C 26g 48a 74points
2003 Patrick McNeil D 14points
2004 John Hughes RW 13g 18a 31points
2005 John Tavares C 45g 32a 77points *15 year old
2006 Steven Stamkos C 42g 50a 92points
2007 Ryan O'Reilly 19g 33a 52points
2008 John McFarland C 21g 31A 52points
These are the stats that each player has for their rookie season and for the whole season.
At the current rate, Daniel Catenacci will have 7 goals and 26 assists for a projected total of 33 total points for his rookie year, only one player has less, Patrick McNeil and he was a defenseman. There is also a possibility that he could turn into a goal scorer over the second half of the season, as some of the players mentioned did, but for a first overall pick to have 3 goals in 26 games is buy no means a good first half of the season.
Unfortunatly, when evaluating players the goals/assists are what is used to determine a players worth so to speak, if you work your butt off in a game and have nothing to show for it, then it dosen't matter how fast you skated up the ice.
The 93's playing in the OHL this season do have some pressure on them to perform on the ice and the 1st overall pick has some added pressure to be the best 93 on the ice, having said that, the 1st overall pick should be the best 93 in the OHL and his stats are not reflecting that.
Good luck in the rest of the season, hopefully you can turn things around.
This was done for the first overall pick no one else, the camparison is between first overall picks, not a first overall pick and a 80th pick how would that be fair, then again it is quite possible that the 80th pick has more goals than the first overall pick.
As someone stated in an earlier post, getting drafted to the NHL depends on what teams are looking for in that year, they could need more D, or a tough guy, if they need a speedy forward than he has a chance, he still has the second half of the season to find the back of the net. When you are the first overall pick then you are held to a high standard, one that follows around the player for his OHL career, but don't forget that when he was chosen both he and his family enjoyed the limelite that goes along with it, so it's up to him.
And the player that you are inquirig about is Hughes, a first overall pick not chosen in the NHL draft.
Both kids will be very very good pros.....neither are going to be franchise type players. There are no big prizes in the 93 age group for the NHL, maybe in Europe and this is not a disservice. But a frank reality....solid citizens and maybe more than most years.
Do not rate these players by points they are putting up in their first season. It all depends on the situations your team puts you (the rookie) in. Many teams do not give their rookies ample powerplay time which is where most points are scored. The Soo has one of the best powerplays in the league so their rookies will not play it. Barrie is stacked so Strome will not be on theirs and so on. Other rookies that are fortunate enough to play on a powerplay will put up some good points. Whats important is to develop and have reasonable ice-time for your rookie season. Most rookies generally score the bulk of their points in the second half of the season if you look at statistics. If you watch the games you will see that Cat, Cousins, Strome, and many others are playing well and in different situations for development. I would rate this 93 group very strong over-all.
There had been talk months before the OHL 93 draft that the strength was at defense. Most scouts were questioning whether the d was as strong as it looked or whether the weaker offensive players were making the d look so strong!
1:21, I understand your points in your post, but the first overall pick goes to the worst team in the OHL, so therefore if you are as good as scouts say you are, then is it not resonable to say that, you should be the best player drafted in that year and therefore should be able to play on any line on the worst team?
that is not a reasonable statement.Being 16 and playing against players 1-4 yrs older than you makes a big difference. Look at 92 McFarland, on a bad team, not blowing the stats out of the water and ranked 6th overall in the nhl draft.Scoring points in your rookie year is a bonus. Kadri was a late cut for the Leafs and not exactly lighting up the league and he's no rookie. Stop the jealousy.It's getting old
The only thing getting old is you pumping up this kid, the way that info was fed to the press last year, you would have thought he was the next Gretsky and now that he is not "lighting it up" you come on here and write about others just to take the topic off him, yea it's getting old alright, and the truth is now seem, stats don't lie.
You should spend all your energy helping your kid develop instead of giving updates on Cat every day, it is truly getting old. Whether you like it or not he is doing well and will also be playing on the Team Ontario.
Read papers in the Soo and watch games where his coach and manager praise the kids play as you can see on the feature on the OHL website. The kid is playing against the top lines in the O. Stop your jealousy for this kid and the others for that matter your shit is getting old.
AGREED WITH ABOVE POSTER...ITS GETTING OLD! STOP YOUR WHINING AND GET BACK TO BLAMING YOUR COACH BECAUSE YOUR BOY WASN'T DRAFTED AND IS NOW PLAYING MIDGET HOCKEY AND NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
Well what would you want the coach and GM to say? Of course they will talk about him and praise him, if they don't they will look like FOOLS for taking him first overall. And the comment made about helping my kid out of Midget, is that what his parents did for him? Spewing crap to the papers, arranging interviews just to get him drafted higher? Look the kid is a good player, but no where near the player he was made out to be, inflated stats, and never ending injuries. And as far as Team Ontario goes, a little politics I am sure, because we all know that there are several players outplaying him right now, but hey that is one of the perks of going first overall and his parents knew it thats why they pushed so hard for him to go first overall. If he was as good as he was made out to be, then why not be humble and let people see for themselves how good he really is and not push the media so hard? I really don't care if you agree with me or not, and the constant mention of jealousy is the furthest thing from the truth, what is there to be jealous of?
Good morning! It never fails that you are on this site every morning. The truth is a bitch, isn't it? Your son wasn't drafted and is going nowhere playing midget hockey. It's all because of his coach right? Buddy you should seek help!
Finally, the player that everyone wants to hear about is the first pick from the 2009 OHL Priority Selection, Daniel Catenacci (1993). The 16 year old forward has had a bit of a rough transition to the OHL, as his numbers are probably below a lot of people’s expectations at this point (27GP 3-8-11 -6). Catenacci is a very good skater and has a lot of lower body strength for only being 5’10”, 180lbs. He competes very hard and doesn’t back down in the corners and actually is willing to lay the body when he has the opportunity. Offensively, he has a lot of raw skill, but it hasn’t quite translated to the OHL level, and it might not to the extent that some people expect. He’s definitely more of a playmaker, but he lacks the natural creativity of high end players which limits what he can do. Next season will go a long way towards indicating where Catenacci might go in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, but at this point he could be anywhere from the late first to the middle rounds.
what did you use to make that projection middle to late round. I'm interested in knowing what method you used? Professional judgement , statitical analysis? What? If your that good with claiming that projection I gotta learn you use.
it's not jealousy you fool it's trying to water down the pimping of players or haven't you figured that out yet? BTW who's the best 95 this year a good crop? LMAO!!!!!
In the 7-1 Soo victory, Catenacci had 1 goal and 1 assist, and also ended up with a -1, so in theory his points were acheived on the PP, and he was on the ice for the only goal against. He now has 14 points in 29 games, on track for 32-35 points this season.
hey buddy do u have the stats available for the minor atom AAA loop? please provide these as I will take my crystal ball and forcast what the next OHL draft pick will do in 6 years.
well said but maybe we if we really really want to solve the problem then lets not draft 16 year olds what the frickin rush? Let these kids stay in midget then draft at 17 and play 18 which at this age- 2 years is an enormous differnce in size strength, speed , smarts...etc. What the hell are we doing???????
He'a doing just fine DEAL WITH IT, well how about you deal with the fact that he is not doing that great, and the only thing that might save the season is first of all you shut the r--k up and secondly he finds the back of the net, because 5 goals in 32 games is not DOING JUST FINE.
Don't worry about points the kid is getting great development at 16 with the Soo. Watched him play tonight against London, was a +2 and also got to shoot in the shoot-out in front of 9,000 spectators. How was your midget game?
according to the gamesheet, he did have a chance in the shootout he was the 6th shooter out of 6, and didn't score, so the coach was just going through the lineup, it's not like he was first or second and they were hoping he would win the game for them. And everyone who plays in London plays infront of 9000+ fans so don't make it seem like they were there just to see him skate, because right now thats all he is doing is skating.
Leave the kid alone. He is a great player and has a good family.And dosn't need to be criticized by any of you unhappy miserable jealous people.And envious I might add.Leave it alone.He will show you (bashers) all in the end.He plays a solid 2 way game and always has.Great kid.You bashers only wish your kid is half the player or kid Daniel is.And don't retaliate with your BS post after this.Let it go.
I'll let it go if you do, he is a nice kid, but don't go singing the praises of his "great family" because we don't want to go down that road again, PLEASE PLEASE DON'T COME ON HERE PRAISING HIS FAMILY, because that is the biggest BS on this site.
Anyone know what happened in the game last night, December 9/09 the Soo vs Saginaw? The Soo wins 7-0 and Daniel Catenacci dosen't get a point, or for that matter is a 0 for his +/-, now before any of you from the Cat booster club respond, this is the first overall pick, and not to get a point in a 7-0 game is a little hard to believe, did he leave the game? Is he injured?
Someone please tell me it isn't true, 36 OHL gmaes player and 5 goals for the first overall pick, man did his media team ever do a number on the scouts last season, leading everyone to believe that this kid was as good as Crosby. What a joke.
the only morons are the ones that believed his inflated stats last year, and it shows in his stats this year, the stats are on the OHL website for everyone to see.