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A Puzzle

October 28 2008 at 9:27 AM
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  (Login TheNewtonian)

Hello to All ,

A very puzzling card .


 
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Eric B
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Re: A Puzzle

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November 3 2008, 8:48 PM 

Bump to keep it from going to Page 2. This card was posted a couple years ago, but we never got an answer.

 
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Is there really a solution?

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November 4 2008, 12:15 AM 

Granted, it has been a while since I have been involved in any math proofs, but it seems to me that there is no solution in spite of the claims of the card. The logic is as follows:

1) Note that the sum of 0 through 9 is 45.
2) In 100, the 1's place is 0.
3) Therefore, to transform the sum in 1) to a sum that adds up to 100, we need turn the 1's place into a 0, i.e., we need to move numbers that add up to 5 from the 1's place to the 10's place.
4) There are 3 ways to move a total of 5, 4&1, 2&3, and 5. In all cases, we are adding 50 (5x10) and subtracting 5 (5x1) from the original 45. So the new sum is 90.
5) We could also try moving over 15 from the 1's to the 10's place, say 7&8. Here the total would be 45 + (15x10) - (15x1) or 180.

If you still don't believe this approach, note that the second sum in the example on the card moves 1 & 3 = 4, so the sum there would be 45 + (4x10) - (4x1) = 81. The third sum in the example moves 2, 3, & 1 = 6, so the sum = 45 + (6x10) - (6x1) = 99.

I hope this is clear. Yet the card claims there is a solution. Seems like it must be a trick.

(edited to standardize notation)


    
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keith lentz
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puzzle

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November 5 2008, 2:00 AM 


15
36
47
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98
02
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100

 
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(Login willhc)

puzzles

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November 5 2008, 7:13 PM 

Keith, did you figure the answer out yourself or did you 'borrow' this answer from pg. 172 of the tangerine Benjamin book?

 
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(Login alanmiley)

Maybe that's the trick but ...

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November 5 2008, 9:47 PM 

... but it does not have consistent internal logic.

So let's say by some strange rationale, we accept the sum 98, as an valid use of the 8 and 9 characters. If that be the case, what do we do with the 100 at the bottom? Following that logic, we used one extra 1 and two extra 0's.

A poorly constructed puzzle IMHO.

 
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