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Is this an N or T card?

May 3 2009 at 1:40 PM
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Andrew  (Login 67standup)

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It's blank backed and about 4 1/8" x 2 3/4"

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Re: Is this an N or T card?

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May 4 2009, 9:33 PM 

Anyone?

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kind of.....

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May 4 2009, 9:59 PM 

a trick question......

blank backed would fall under the 'H' category of trade cards. They were issued for MANY MANY manufacturers but no 'N' manufacturers that I know of. There are 4-5 'E' manufacturers including Apollo Chocolates, Ghirardelli Chocolates, Sunbeam gum and some more.....

They were issued with coffee under a 'K' designation.....

They were issued with some tobacco under a 'T' designation too.....

And maybe others.....tons of 'H' designated companies.....

48 cards to the set...........



 
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Re: Is this an N or T card?

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May 4 2009, 10:49 PM 

Interesting card. Blank back with no advertising and caption in German (or ???): So I wouldn't give it an ACC letter designation. I could not find it in the World Tobacco Index either, so it must not be tobacco related.

Here are the ones I have listed on Todd's website (I'm sure there are more):

Mail Carriers And Stamps (C19) Imperial Tobacco Company Of Canada US 1903

Mail Of All Nations (D73) Rochester Baking Company US 1930-1949

Stamps & Mail Carriers Of All Nations (D73) Crispy Top Bread US 1930-1949

Stamps & Mail Carriers Of All Nations (D73) Schmidt's Bakery US 1930-1949

Mail Carriers Of All Nations (E163) Ghirardelli Co. US 1920's

Mail Carriers And Stamps (E239) Apollo Chocolates US 1920's

Mail Carriers And Stamps (E239) Mansfield Company US 1920's

Delivery Of Mail (F353) Schorn & Brower US 1930-1949

Delivery Of Mail (F354) McCormick Spice Company US 1930-1949

Mail Carriers And Stamps (H630) (Multiple Companies) US 1900-1919

Mail Carriers And Stamps (K138) International Coffee Company US 1900-1919

Mail Carriers And Stamps (K138) Frank, Frederick US 1900-1919

Mail Carriers And Stamps (K138) Manning, E.N. Co. US 1900-1919

Mail Carriers And Stamps (K138) Voskamps US 1900-1919

Mail Carriers And Stamps (K138) Sherman Bros. & Co. US 1900-1919

Mail Carriers And Stamps (T132) Unknown Tobacco Company US 1900-1919

Here is the same card with English text:

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Re: Is this an N or T card?

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May 5 2009, 12:33 AM 

Thanks Guys.

Todd, just so I'm clear, is the image you showed (similar to mine) appear on all 18 of the issues you listed?

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Re: Is this an N or T card?

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May 5 2009, 8:02 AM 

I believe most of the sets contain the same 48 images.

 
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Here are some.............

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May 5 2009, 8:26 AM 

back scans...........

The first picture below shows the E163 back for Ghirardelli Chocolates. It also shows three of the four backs listed for E239 including Apollo Chocolates, Sunbeams & Limola Gum. The fourth back listed as E239 is shown in the other picture for Nadja Chocolates.
The Nadjas, while noted with the E239's are a different size than the one you pictured and the other E239's. There are some Canadian issues and others that are the same size as the Nadjas. I'm not 100% sure that they picture the same 48 countries but they only picture a single stamp on the front.

I have 8-10 other different backs from all sorts of businesses including Voskamp's coffee, a couple of Tea manufacturers, John Wanamaker, moving company and others. While not really EASY to find, they do come up quite often. Trying to put a set together of any of them would be a daunting task. Maybe a mixed back set of 48 would be more attainable but even that would take some time unless you get a large lot of them at once.

All four of the backs in the first photo note that they are 48 card sets and interestingly, the Apollo Chocolates card has a 1909 calendar on the back of it.



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I really like them. My grandmother was a postmaster in a 40 person town from the late 1950's till about 1983. They closed the post office then as they did in many of the really small rural areas.

 
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WEBPAGE ---D73 - Mailcarriers - added to The Gallery

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DKA Cards

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May 7 2009, 7:28 PM 

The German cards are sometimes called DKA cards for Dresdner Kunstanstalt, the publisher. They may be found as "album" cards - black back, with no advertising - or as trade cards, with advertising on the back and sometimes on the front. As trade cards, they are "stock" cards, advertising a variety of products, as opposed to cards produced for a specific company.

They almost always come in 6 card sets. Sometimes they are grouped into multiples of 6. For example, the Mail Carriers and Stamps comes in 8 6-card subsets and Mineral Cards (e.g., K112) comes in 10 6-card subsets. DKA produced over 200 sets in Germany. English language version of these sets are less common and I believe it is probable that not all sets were translated.

One of the more interesting examples in the Mail in Many Lands issue is card 5470:1.

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The German version, on the left, is titled "Die Post in Amerika." The U.S. version, on the right, is titled "The Mail in Germany."

By the way, DKA was not the only publisher of this general style of German trade cards, in fact, a few other publishers produced even more issues. Many are quite attractive.

Let me conclude with a plug - I have become quite interested in the German trade cards and I am interested in buying any spares available. I have a long way to go, so the larger the collection, the better.


    
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Re: Is this an N or T card?

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May 7 2009, 9:17 PM 

Very interesting, but confusing (but your write-up is very clear.) Thanks.

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Here's the back of an ITC Canada........

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May 8 2009, 8:18 AM 

card similar to the smaller, single-stamp Nadja I pictured. There are a number of them on ebay in a seller's store at REALLY high priced BIN's.

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