Recently offered on Ebay were two different lots.

First lot has 2 cards, second has just one but different. I was lucky enough to win the single card lot - I am guessing one of the board memebers won the other.

I can't find these cards listed in any of the references I have - anyone know these cards?

Greg:
I had one of these cards and it had a blank back. The one with the rooster looks like the rooster was added. A diecut glued to the back. Is the image printed on the back on the other two? If it is, is it lithographed?

Roger

Yeah, and that looks like the Church & Dwight/Arm & Hammer cow

I received the bottom card (w/rooster) in the mail yesterday. It too has a letter (N) on the back and the text talks about the collecting all the cards to spell out Banner Tobacco.

The cards are a little bigger than your standard A&G or Duke smaller sized N card - maybe 3/4" taller and 1/2" wider (don't have the card in front of me right now just estimating).

The rooster on the card I have is glued onto the surface of the card?

The card backs and overall patina make me think it's old and orignal - no question about the back.

Strange that they would paste a die-cut on the front, if there was no die-cut then the card front would be blank, I am guessing they were originally distributed like this - but really don't know.

I have seen leidersdorf tobacco card backs that look similar to this (letters/win a watch).

The text on my rooster card says these cards are distrbuted in Banner's Night Watch tobacco.

Have you seen any Banner tobacco card backs like this? Does anyone know which servies this might is?

I had the misfortune to obtain the two Ebay cards. They are indeed fakes, with the designs glued on the back of two normal Banner coupons. And one of the designs is an Arm & Hammer.

If you carefully remove the sticker from the back you will return the card to its original condition. Last year I sold a Pine Needles cigarette coupon that was very similar, so they do have some value.

became fodder for children - either contemporaneous with their issue - or later when discovered in a drawer or a trunk. I remember playing with real victorean die-cuts that my mother occasionally used to embelish advertisements for the clothing she designed (she made dresses for Joan Kennedy and other 1960's luminaries like Twiggy - among her most famous are the dresses worn by the Mother's of Invention on one of their albums - and the first pair of wedding pants). Shameless bragging - but at least it's not about myself ). Perhaps the cards were soaked and happened to split into 2 halves or any number of things. If it was REALLY to deceive the job is quite amaturish. People have fun cutting. pasting, and glueing things. They're clearly marriages - could never sell for much - I love the Banner Night Watch Tobacco trade paper coupon with the dog on it. If I can find the one I have I'll post it........

a dress (the more I think about that the better it is) but could patch a hole in my jeans with the best of them.

So it reads like some are familiar with a blank-backed Banner Tobacco Co. coupon series. I'll buy that allowing that these (unlike most coupons) are cardboard paper cards not your typical thin paper coupon. Given this is the value diminshed to a great degree becasue a die-cut is glued on a blank back? Is it much worse than someone stamping their name on the back of the card or having some paper loss on the back of a card? Would it be better to tear off the die-cut and have paper loss to a blank back?

Also, should these cards be considered fakes? I see them as real cards/coupons with a back problem.

Henry - I agree, the Banner Night Watch coupon w/dog is a very neat looking coupon. I'll post one if I don't see yours in the near future.