I have picked up a group of 53 different cards from this set and I find that I really like them. How difficult/expensive would this set be to complete in VG condition? I noticed that certain cards are designated "SUPERSTARS" in the Gallery section showing this set. What is the value of those cards in VG?
I would only want to build the basic 216 card set.
Any comments, opininions, advice would be appreciated.
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"I have picked up a group of 53 different cards from this set..."
LOL! You have, have you? I believe clear title of those passed to your daughter!
Serious answer, but very complicated, because it's a very complicated set. It'll be a challenge, but not super expensive for most of the cards. Because of the way it was released in multiple series, there are a handful of cards only available in one or two series. These are hard to find anywhere. I'll dig around and see what info I have on these, but, for example, #115 was only printed as a Series of 48 or Series of 288. I searched for this card for almost 2 years before Dan C kindly took care of me (Thank you again, Dan.) But the same is true with some of the higher numbers.
If I can find my notes, I'll toss them in the mail to you.
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Jerry, I'll add to Jim's comments. I completed the basic 216 set in a couple of years without exerting a huge effort. There are a few tough cards but not as tough as some of the sets you are working on. Now, those crazy enough to attempt the 432 card version might have a different story. One thing I would add: These cards look fantastic in EX or better condition and they are not hard to find in nice condition. I would be patient and try to put together a set in nicer than VG condition...you'll appreciate the extra effort.
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Thank You Jim for those cards - an incredibly generous gesture on your part for sending those cards to my Daughter.
What happened is she traded those cards to me for the Jungle Gum cards I picked up in a recent purchase of mine. Plus I gave her my promise to finish the Jungle Gum set for her as part of the trade.
The US Caramel President set is almost done, she needs only James Garfield to finish that one. My Want List on the B/S/T for these sets was posted at her request.
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I strongly feel the basic set will have 8-12 very, very tough cards...
...all series of 312s, scenes.......although a series of 24, for some
......reason half the series is extremely tough to find.
I hate posting things like this, as it's information I have
...on my pc from my sets, and not information from any survey.
Maybe Chris Watson will explain whether my information, above,
...carries any validity. I know Ralph has asked for Chris to post
......information he gathered from his "Wrapper" surveys. Maybe now
.........is a good time to share some/all of the Indian Gum statistics.
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This message has been edited by DanCalandriello on Sep 4, 2009 10:30 AM
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For what it's worth, I'm seven cards from the base set (and yes, crazy enough to be working on the set of 432), have pursued it pretty aggressively, and I've found the toughest cards to be the series of 48/288 110-152. They seem to be about half as available as the series of 312 scenes, which you can almost always lay hands on if you're willing to pay the price.
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Jerry, re that core set of 216, I strongly urge you to go for it. If the objective is VG condition, this is not difficult. But Chuck's recommendation to be a bit more patient and wait for Ex to Ex+ is good advice: extremely doable and a higher-grade set is a thing of beauty. One thing is for sure, during the 1930s, there were A LOT of Indian Gum cards issued. Perhaps no where near as many as HOW, but many many many!
I also would like to note that there is a "middle ground" in collecting this set, which lies between the 216 base set and the 432 "monster". That is sorta where I've gone with R73: collect the core set and then, one by one, target the additional subsets. You'll have a lot of fun adding a blue banner fronts set to your Ex+ base set. Then go for the white background 'portrait' Series of 312s. And then, for a real challenge, try the Series of 24 in high grade. Tough but if you are patient, possible.
But the Series of 288? In high grade? Esp those numbers in the lower 100s? Almost no way . . .
So, in short, I am perhaps "backing" into a 432-card monster, have been doing this for I guess 15 years, but have never consciously tried to go after it. As a result, I am within stiking distance, most of the needed cards being commons, but still several 288s missing and I know these would zap my effort, in the end!
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I have a basic 216 set. I also have the blue stripe set. I have (or used to have) another 200 or so dupes. In that total of nearly 500 cards I own a single card from the white series and exactly none from the Series of 288.
All you guys that started 15 years ago are sitting on the "good" cards!
I agree. The basic set offers a few challenges (10-15 hard cards). The master set is a killer.
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