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Shill Detection on eBay . . .

December 20 2010 at 6:55 AM
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  (Login 30s_non-sport_gum)

There's an auction right now on eBay, seems a pretty top drawer item. Seller claims it was purchased by current owner from Mastro's for %10k, some time back.

Anyway, leaving the lot's contents anonymous so as to not 'out' a really interesting item, here is the current bidder list. Have a look. Does anything look funny about it to you guys, or am I seeing shill shadows here:

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Bidders: 9Bids: 20Time left: 8 days 12 hours 13 minsDuration: 10 days


Bidder Click here to know more about anonymous user IDs Bid Amount Bid Time

r***y ( 241) US $2,458.88
Dec-19-10 16:47:04 PST


a***s ( 316) US $2,433.88
Dec-19-10 17:04:02 PST


a***s ( 316) US $2,250.00
Dec-19-10 12:57:12 PST


n***u ( 686) US $2,160.07
Dec-19-10 11:55:37 PST


z***t ( 1089) US $2,150.00
Dec-19-10 12:11:31 PST


r***y ( 241) US $2,100.00
Dec-19-10 10:36:52 PST


a***s ( 316) US $1,650.00
Dec-19-10 11:40:24 PST


a***s ( 316) US $1,500.00
Dec-19-10 09:41:08 PST


e***e ( 196) US $1,401.00
Dec-19-10 10:00:59 PST


e***e ( 196) US $1,345.00
Dec-19-10 10:00:25 PST


s***a ( 68) US $1,295.00
Dec-19-10 09:20:06 PST


r***y ( 241) US $1,225.00
Dec-19-10 05:17:37 PST


a***s ( 316) US $1,000.00
Dec-18-10 18:56:59 PST


r***y ( 241) US $765.00
Dec-19-10 05:17:08 PST


s***a ( 68) US $345.00
Dec-18-10 19:46:00 PST


s***a ( 68) US $295.00
Dec-18-10 19:45:48 PST


s***a ( 68) US $225.00
Dec-18-10 19:45:30 PST


6***r ( 2124) US $11.00
Dec-18-10 16:24:07 PST


l***l ( 474) US $1.00
Dec-18-10 16:11:54 PST


Starting Price US $0.99
Dec-18-10 15:59:39 PST

 
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jim
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Re: Shill Detection on eBay . . .

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December 20 2010, 7:14 AM 

Its hard to say, Ralph. But if that were my consignment, I 'ld want a bit more details in the listing, no?

 
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(Login 30s_non-sport_gum)

Re: Shill Detection on eBay . . .

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December 20 2010, 7:20 AM 

Absolutely right, Jim.

No way bidders should be able to really go after this, at a big ticket price, on the sparse detail provided.

Which is one of the reasons I started looking at the bidder list.
The lot is moving up fast, elevating on very little detail.
Suspicious.

So, with a suspicious frame of mind, looking at the bidder list I think I see at least one shill (the consignor?), tho could even be two if auctioneer also controls a shilling account.

Ain't sayin', I'm just sayin' . . .

 
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(Login Thrill-of-the-Hunt)

$13,000

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December 20 2010, 9:50 AM 

this auction ended with no bidders at a $13,000 BIN or best offer and has been relisted with a low starting bid no reserve. we have seen 2 complete sets sell for $4200 & $5600 from a different seller (same seller for both sets) within the last 2 months. this set is much nicer, so until the bids get over $4200 i wouldn't worry at all about a shill.

 
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(Login WarHoundR69)

Re: Shill Detection on eBay . . .

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December 28 2010, 8:16 PM 

Set sold for $5202.00. Any opinions - shilled or legitimate?

 
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Richard L.
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December 28 2010, 8:44 PM 

It does seem a bit odd that 85% of this winners bids in the last 30 days have been with this seller?

 
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(Login egbeachley)

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December 28 2010, 9:36 PM 

Definitely shilled. This bidder wins or bids on the high-priced lots with this seller. Just in the last few days he bid on 1) Arod signed bat, 2) 1956 Topps PSA 9 common, 3) 1913 Cleveland team photo, 4) 1887 N2 Indian Chiefs, 5) T206 photos, 6) 1927 Yankee die-cuts. Not very similar items. Plus, while everyone gets feedback within a day, this bidder gets none.

There seem to be other accounts used for shilling too. But he's a high-volume seller that Ebay will ignore. At least until someone finally files a class-action suit on Ebay or on the sellers.

 
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Rand
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yeah , you may be right

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December 28 2010, 9:43 PM 

the winner bid alot of times in this auction. usually when a high ticket , important item is on ebay bidders like to snipe and not show there interest till the end.

 
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