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NEW! Upcoming Tamiya 1/48th scale Elefant

November 3 2016 at 3:57 AM

Luciano Rodriguez  (Login cmt-lu)
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Gents,

Tittle says all. –> The beast is here!

Lu

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Andrew Deeley
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Good news

November 3 2016, 5:20 AM 

HI
Great news.

Bruce will be sad its not his M3 sad.gif

However with a new fighting compartment roof,drivers front plate and i think engine deck (?) you can do the Kursk Ferdinand. Ideally you need new tracks for the earlier ones but I'm not sure if the difference is noticeable in 1/48.

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Luciano Rodriguez
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Yup, Ferdinand at last... : )

November 3 2016, 5:35 AM 

Andrew,

You are very correct and that is my choice for sure. I have zero interest in the Elefant but I am big fan of Ferdinand instead. wink.gif

Lu

 
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Bruce Culver
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At least the apparent lack of zimmerit will make the conversion.....

November 3 2016, 11:30 PM 

to the Ferdinand somewhat easier, thought there are snares galore in the details - a lot was changed during the reworking of the Ferdinands into the Elefants. I suspect the early tracks could be ignored in 1/48, but we'll have to see what the kit looks like. I would build this as the Elefant, since Italy is one of my theater interests. I would bet that someone in the aftermarket sphere will bring out a conversion set for the Ferdinand for the Kursk fans.

 
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Bruce Culver
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Note that the way the parts are broken down, with separate....

November 3 2016, 11:33 PM 

superstructure roof, engine section deck, and front plate, would allow Tamiya to release a modified version as the Ferdinand, though its anyone's guess as to whether or not they actually would do that.

 
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Andrew Deeley
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Re: Note that the way the parts are broken down, with separate....

November 4 2016, 1:34 AM 

Hi Bruce
I thought that originally but I feel the breakdown is actually to keep small parts to a minimum.

If they wanted a Ferdinand engine deck they just had to mould the Elephants two side engine covers as separate items. This would do away with the need for a whole new engine deck.

As you say the IF or WHEN Tamiya do a Ferdinand would be anyone's guess. Without going to the lengths of Dragon, Tamiya could quite easily increase their 1/48 range by making these simple variants of tanks, but that's another story !!

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Andrew

 
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Rob Gronovius
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I believe you are correct

November 5 2016, 10:38 AM 

Many of Tamiya's 1/48 scale armor kits are the basis for at least two different kits. Makes sense that they would eventually expand on this chassis. Wasn't there an old Italeri 1/35 scale tank that used the same hull as the Ferdinand/Elefant? I'd like to see that one.
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David Nickels
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Technically it is a Ferdinand

November 8 2016, 8:57 PM 

The name change from Ferdinand to Elefant had nothing to do with the rebuilding of the tanks, and came some months later. So, even in this configuration, it was still called Ferdinand. Also, Ferdinand was used in official writing up to the end of the War.


 
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Brian Crowley
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Enough . . .

November 4 2016, 8:58 PM 

. . . of the German stuff. Where's an M3 half track?

 
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Bruce Culver
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That man wins the internet.....

November 4 2016, 10:47 PM 

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Andrew Deeley
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Give that man a gold star nt

November 5 2016, 12:23 PM 


 
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Rob Gronovius
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not being a US halftrack expert

November 5 2016, 10:20 PM 

but can an M3 be used as a basis for other halftrack variants? Or has the modeling world been able to separate which versions were self propelled guns or air defense versions?

I don't know, that's why I'm throwing this out there. We've often fallen victim to our own expertise.
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Andrew Deeley
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Yes

November 6 2016, 3:10 AM 

THi
Yes the M3 Can be used as the basis for other versions.

Fortunately the modelling world didn't have to sort it out the US Army did it for us. I suggest a quick search on Wiki for M2, M3, M5, M9 it will give lots of info.

One of the easy ID features on M2/3 is the the rear hul side and rear join is square and on the M5/9 the join is rounded. The US only used M2/3 the M5/9 were exported.

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Andrew


 
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Bruce Culver
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Yes, this is one of the confounding things about Tamiya's.....

November 6 2016, 11:13 PM 

ignoring the US half-tracks. One good kit could be converted into at least a dozen different variants, most based on the M3 but others based on the shorter M2 scout car. The M2 could be also the M4/M4A1 mortar carrier and the M2 armed with the M3 37mm AT gun as used by 2nd AD. It could also be used for an M15 MGMC (2x.50MG and 1x37mm). The M3/M3A1 could be done as the M3 GMC, M3 command/radio vehicle and the M16 MGMC. Dennis's very early tires could allow building an early North African vehicle, either M2 or M3, or M3 GMC. The same chassis and most details could be used for the M5/M9 Lend-Lease versions used by British and Commonwealth countries. I admit I have given up expecting Tamiya ever doing this, because Shunsaku Tamiya marches to his own drummer, and the drummer is on something.....happy.gif

 
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Joaquin Gª Gazquez / panzermodelling.com
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It's a compulsory model

November 7 2016, 5:12 AM 

Incredible news,

This will be a compulsory model, every one loves the 1/48 scale, must to be one.

I hope Tamiya do also a sticky zimmerit for this one.

I'm anxious to see it.

Great news!!

Regards
~JQN
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Chris Camfield
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Zimmerit

November 7 2016, 7:41 AM 

Someone on Facebook shared pictures of the instructions (because they were at the show where it was announced!) and it mentions

"Zimmerit Coating Sheet for 1/48 Scale Elefant (Item 12671)"

 
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Richard Isner
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Hatches? Not opened?

November 7 2016, 7:33 PM 

Hi,

I am thrilled with the subject, but very disappointed that all of the hatches aren't able to be shown opened or closed. I personally think that limits the options.

Too bad.

Richard

 
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Andrew Deeley
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Re: Hatches? Not opened?

November 8 2016, 4:39 AM 

Hi Richard

Tend to agree with you. Although it makes no difference to the variants I much prefer the option of all hatches being open or closed.

I think it's just a cost reason, each individual part increases the tooling costs. On the bright side Tamiya have not gone Dragons route and opened up everything and anything.

It is possible to open up the closed hatches but it's a lot of hassle. Still it is a Elephant

Regards
Andrew

 
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Steve Faxon
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Opening hatches

November 10 2016, 8:42 PM 

Is fairly easy to model......good place to get started with some scratch building skills.....give it a whirl

 
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