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Sidesaddle Technique

May 19 2003 at 4:49 AM
 
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Geoff:

Geoff,

Love your website. I am having serious putting difficulties and I am considering "sidesaddle technique". I was wondering about your thoughts
on this style..and should I embark down this path?????

Any help would be appreciated ...

Thanks so much,

Brian Mariotti
Seattle, Washington



 
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Experiment away!

May 19 2003, 4:50 AM 

Dear Brian,

Experminetation is not really dangerous, especially if you are at the end of your rope!

It would probably be better if you described for me your difficulties and let me take a shot at giving you some direction out of the darkness. So tell me about the problem(s) and let's go from there.

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Specifics plus Hypnosis help

May 19 2003, 4:56 AM 

Geoff:

Wow..thanks for the quick reply...I feel that my main issue is alignment (or picking out a line) as I stand behind the ball facing the target. Then as I take my putting stance..I have difficulty finding that same point or line...I believe in the fact that all sports are played in a binocular manner ... yet we put ourselves at a disadvantage by using my non-dominant eye to putt with in a traditional manner.

I feel if I made a change to looking at the target with both eyes the entire time (meaning sidesaddle) I could putt better. So few people putt this way, I am worried about not understanding the true fundamentals of sidesaddle. Especially finding a long putter that fits my body height (5'10")..and that is made for sidesaddle technique. I am a 5 handicap..that should be scratch if I did not putt as bad as I do. I feel I have a fundamentally solid stroke..but go through hot and often cold streaks. I try to release the putter through the stoke and often miss high ... and usually hit a lot of lips high that never go in because of too much speed. I try to putt everything 17" to 2 feet past the cup.

But I truly feel that my lack of alignment is killing me. And maybe reading a good line but pace and line are not on the same page.....

I am putting a 400 square foot putting green in my garage with a high-end synthetic turf. I am going to dedicate myself to improving my putting.and really want to try the side saddle technique. I played golf with a guy who putts lights out this way ... and that's what got me interested in possible taking up this technique.

I also tend to sway or peek as I putt..and that may be causing problems as well...

Any help would be appreciative..I am also looking into mental game help as well. Your thoughts on hyposis and post hypnotic suggestions to get oneself into a better frame of concentration??

Thanks so very much!!!

Brian



 
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Dr Tony Piparo's Putter

May 19 2003, 4:58 AM 

Dear Brian,

To cut to the chase, you ought to contact Dr Tony Piparo at http://www.1-puttgolf.com/, email DrTee4@aol.com. Tony is designing a long putter for use with the sidesaddle technique. It's really more of a belly putter length, but the idea is to face the target at address and clamp the top of the putter to the side of your right upper arm with the left hand, and move the putter beneath the right shoulder socket with the right hand hanging in a relaxed fashion down the shaft. The action is just a simple pendulum action. The putter head design in terms of size, shape, weight, loft and lie is designed to promote this simple action. The recommended foot positioning or stance is right foot forward to beside the ball and left foot back a bit. This tends to lean the right shoulder socket out forward a little to clear room for the action of the putter so it will not come in conflict with the side, and also promotes the freely hanging pendular action.

As far as the other issues you mention, most of those probably relate to distance control. I note specifically that trying to send the ball 17 inches past the hole, as advised by Dave Pelz, is not something I believe promotes good touch or success in sinking putts. It may interest you to know that Pelz's actual research does not support the so-called "17-inch rule" either. In the only report of his original data and conclusions, Pelz states flatly that there is NOT any one optimal go-by distance for putts, and that the go-by distance on the mid-1970s greens varied with grass type and playing conditions from a little as 5-10 inches on tournament-condition bent greens to as high as 30-40 inches on poor-condition Bermuda greens. (Larry Dennis, Die your putts at the hole and you're dead, Golf Digest (July 1977), pages 52-55.) There is no such creature as a Bent-muda green and the so-called "17-inch rule" is illusory, and in fact surfaces have improved fairly dramatically since the early 1970s so that today the pros typically leave good putts only about 10 inches past the hole and amateurs shouldn't be too different unless the conditions are notably poor (e.g., very slow green, diseased surface, wet green, etc.)

But if you are about to embark on a serious trial of sidesaddle putting, this touch issue will have to be shelved until you get used to your technique, and then see what if any touch issues remain.

As far as hypnosis, there are three interesting products out there right now:

Dr Robert Winters' Putting Genius CD from Subconscious Training Corporation, http://www.directyourmind.com/golfmindqanda2.html;

Dr Paul Overman' and Tim Loeb's Enter the Power Zone (EPZ) CD, http://www.enter-power-zone.com/golf/index.html; and

Maggie Connor's Train Your Brain for the Game CD from Ultimate Journey, http://www.ujpro.com.

The Putting Genius CD is specifically tailored to putting and has 10 separate hypnotic programs addressing different putting challenges. The EPZ product is a three-CD set of fundamental golf psychology hypnosis plus 60 minutes of specifically designed psychoacoustic music to promote performance brain states for golf, composed by Tom Kenyon. The Ultimate Journey product is a series of 4 CDs on different parts of golf, starting with the driving game, and including the putting game. (Check to make sure the putting CD is available.) Maggie is a true master hypnotists but she is first and foremost a sport peak performance coach, specializing in Olympic mogul skiing.

There are also audio tapes such as the one by Bob Rotella, but they are not as comprehensive.

As far as straight-up golf psychology for putting, I would recommend Dr Patrick Cohn and Dr Robert Winters' book, The Mental Art of Putting, recently issued in paperback format, and perhaps Joseph Parent's Zen Golf. Both are available via Amazon.com.

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Geoff Mangum
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Re: Specifics plus Hypnosis help

July 9 2003, 11:34 PM 

At least for myself, missing shorts putts to the right comes from opening the putter face and not getting it closed before it reaches the ball. I have struggled with short putts for some time and have tried every putter and grip known to man (left hand low helped me the most). Then one day I noticed that the putter was opening on short putts, like a gate opening. It is not so bad on longer putts as you have more time to close the face but on those short ones you get back to the ball so fast. When I keep the putter perfectly straight/square going back, no problem. It is when I take the putter back inside on the backswing that I have the problem. I can go along and make 10 in a row and then I miss one to the right. Anyway, I have a new sidesaddle putter coming in tomorrow and I will let you know how it works out. I do know that from putting sidesaddle with a regular putter I am so much more accurate and the putt seems so much easier to make compared to the normal putting stroke. Dany Gant

 
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