Back to PuttingZone
  << Previous Topic | Next Topic >>Main  

Rules for Putter Lie

July 24 2004 at 12:57 PM
  (no login)
from IP address 172.201.63.241

I read with interest your article on putter length and lie. I am in the
process of having a putter custom made for me, but have run into a
"rules" question. Am I correct in my interpretation of the rules that a
putter must have a lie angle that is more than 10 degrees flatter than 90
degrees? If this is the correct understanding of the rule, please email
back to me...also, if this is the rule, why is it so?

Thanks,
Paul Burds

 
 Respond to this message   
AuthorReply

(no login)
172.136.210.210

Appendix II for Putter Design

July 24 2004, 5:29 PM 

Dear Paul,

Yes, the Rules of Golf require in Appendix II that putters have a "lie" of "at least" 10 degrees off vertical. Here is the Rule:

http://www.usga.org/playing/rules/books/rules/appendix_II.html

The reason for the rule appears to be to ban croquet-like equipment (mallets) from golf to keep the games separate and to require golfers to master the traditional method of putting. See:

http://www.ruleshistory.com/clubs.html

This language first appears in Appendix II to the Rules of Golf 1976-1980:

The shaft or neck or socket of a putter may be fixed at any point in the head and need not remain in line with the heel. The axis of the shaft from the top to a point not more than 5 inches (127mm) above the sole shall diverge from the vertical by at least ten degrees in relation to the horizontal line determining length of head under Appendix IIa. The shaft in cross-section shall be generally circular or otherwise symmetrical.

Ref.: http://www.ruleshistory.com/appendices.html

This is an "exception" to the normal rules for woods and irons that the shaft shall attach in line with the heel of the clubhead. The sense is to allow shafts to attach otherwise for putters but to make some effort to keep putters looking like the other clubs, i.e., having some "lie" that makes the stroke be side-on. Perhaps the "at least 10 degrees" is just someone's arbitrary pick.

The 1996 Appendix added that the shaft cannot tilt along the line of the putt off vertical by more than 20 degrees forward or backward.

Ref.: http://www.ruleshistory.com/appendices.html#1996appI

My friend Jeff Jackson has a nice discussion of how the Rules affect putter design, but he doesn't go into the reason for the rule. Ref.: http://www.swingweight.com/usga_rules.htm


Cheers!

Geoff Mangum
Putting Theorist and Instructor
Geoff Mangum's PuttingZone
http://puttingzone.com
Golf's most advanced and comprehensive putting instruction.

Over 730,000 visits and growing strong ...

518 Woodlawn Ave
Greensboro NC 27401
336.230.0612 home
336.402.1602 cell

Recent Testimonials from Students

"You have great putting tips, especially the ones about the gaze. Let's meet and work together when I play Charlotte in May [2003]. I know if I can just get my putting improved, I can break through and win."

Shaun Micheel
PGA Tour player
2003 PGA Champion [July 2003]

"Geoff is the most authoritative, comprehensive and enthusiastic student and instructor of the game of putting that I have come across."

Damon Lucas
Director of Instruction
Chestnut Ridge Country Club
Lutherville, Maryland

"I was blown away! If you ever have the chance to take putting instruction from Geoff, DO NOT PASS IT UP!"

Eddie Cox
PGA pro
Director of Golf
Tot Hill Farm GC, Asheboro NC

"Geoff Mangum is a genius in putting instruction. After two short lessons, I've never putted better in my life."

Rick Murphy
Carolina Golf Practice & Learning Center
Greensboro, NC
Exec. Secretary, Carolinas Sect., PGA of America
Golf Digest Top Teacher in NC

"Geoff has more knowledge and expertise about putting than any other person that I know. He is an outstanding teacher and his philosophy is backed with an enormous amount of research. He's definitely at the top of the class. I refer all my students to him for putting."

Robert Linville
Director of Instruction -- Precision Golf School
Golf Coach -- Greensboro College
1993 Carolinas PGA Teacher of the Year
1999 & 2000 NCAA Division III National Coach of the Year
2000 US Coach in US-Japan Collegiate Team Matches

"Geoff knows more about putting that any one I know. His knowledge and dedication to studying putting are second to none."

Tim Sheredy
Senior Instructor
David Leadbetter Golf Academy
Bradenton FL



 
 Respond to this message   

(no login)
172.136.210.210

Putter Lie and Sam Snead's Putting Style

July 24 2004, 5:31 PM 

Geoff...

Do you think that this ruling on putter's lie of 10 degrees or more is a
extension of the ruling on Sam Sneed's croquet putting style that was
banned?

Thanks again,
Paul Burds

 
 Respond to this message   

(no login)
172.136.210.210

I Think So

July 24 2004, 5:32 PM 

Dear Paul,

Generally, yes -- both rulings seem to be aimed to protecting the "integrity" (i.e., differentness and traditions) of golf as opposed to other forms of lawn sports, most especially croquet.

Seems a little quaint, doesn't it?

Cheers!

Geoff Mangum
Putting Theorist and Instructor
Geoff Mangum's PuttingZone
http://puttingzone.com
Golf's most advanced and comprehensive putting instruction.

Over 730,000 visits and growing strong ...

518 Woodlawn Ave
Greensboro NC 27401
336.230.0612 home
336.402.1602 cell

Recent Testimonials from Students

"You have great putting tips, especially the ones about the gaze. Let's meet and work together when I play Charlotte in May [2003]. I know if I can just get my putting improved, I can break through and win."

Shaun Micheel
PGA Tour player
2003 PGA Champion [July 2003]

"Geoff is the most authoritative, comprehensive and enthusiastic student and instructor of the game of putting that I have come across."

Damon Lucas
Director of Instruction
Chestnut Ridge Country Club
Lutherville, Maryland

"I was blown away! If you ever have the chance to take putting instruction from Geoff, DO NOT PASS IT UP!"

Eddie Cox
PGA pro
Director of Golf
Tot Hill Farm GC, Asheboro NC

"Geoff Mangum is a genius in putting instruction. After two short lessons, I've never putted better in my life."

Rick Murphy
Carolina Golf Practice & Learning Center
Greensboro, NC
Exec. Secretary, Carolinas Sect., PGA of America
Golf Digest Top Teacher in NC

"Geoff has more knowledge and expertise about putting than any other person that I know. He is an outstanding teacher and his philosophy is backed with an enormous amount of research. He's definitely at the top of the class. I refer all my students to him for putting."

Robert Linville
Director of Instruction -- Precision Golf School
Golf Coach -- Greensboro College
1993 Carolinas PGA Teacher of the Year
1999 & 2000 NCAA Division III National Coach of the Year
2000 US Coach in US-Japan Collegiate Team Matches

"Geoff knows more about putting that any one I know. His knowledge and dedication to studying putting are second to none."

Tim Sheredy
Senior Instructor
David Leadbetter Golf Academy
Bradenton FL


 
 Respond to this message   
Current Topic - Rules for Putter Lie
  << Previous Topic | Next Topic >>Main  
Back to PuttingZone