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December 10 2007 at 3:52 PM
 
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I am really struggling with my aim. I am right handed and consistently aim to the left of my target. I pay careful attention to straight out gaze and swiveling my head to check alignment like an apple on a stick but I still dont seem to get it.

Other than someone standing behind you to check your aim, what feedback method do you use to check proper aim? Do you simply learn proper aim has a result of practice or is there an epiphany when a student finally "gets it"? I dont mind practice, in fact I enjoy it but I would like to practice the right way with proper feedback. Thanks in advance.

 
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Aiming Aids

December 11 2007, 4:32 AM 

Dear L.J., Try a cheap pair of glasses and a Sharpie and a line on your floor. Wearing the glasses, stand in front of a mirror with good posture (check that your two pupils are on a level horizontal line and not tilted down to one side) and close the left eye (if a right-hander). With the right eye, look straight at your own pupil in the mirror and hold the tip of the Sharpie up to the mirror pupil. Bring the tip of the Sharpie back to the glasses lens while staying on the mirror pupil and make a dot on the lens. This dot indicates where your straight-out line of eye sight transits thru the glass of the lens in a unique spot. Wearing the glasses, square up to a line on the floor and bend the head and neck as if at address for putting and place the dot on the line. Swivel the head targetward to send the dot down the line. If the dot comes off the line, either you are not really squared up to the line with your shoulders or your neck is not straight out of the shoulders or your head turn is not an apple on a stick head turn in which the peak of your head simply spins in place but does not move about in space. You can also align a business card of other straight edge from one pupil to another, holding the edge near your eyes, and then bend to look down at the line on the floor. The card edge will match the floor line. Now swivel the head so that the card edge stays matching the floor line all the way to the end of the line. Now take the cheap glasses again and mark a horizontal line (perhaps a different color Sharpie than the dot) from one lens across the other as if drawing the top edge of the card onto the lenses. Square up to the line on the floor so this horizontal line across the glasses matches the line on the floor. Now swivel the head. Next, remove the glasses, square up to the line on the floor with both eyes open using the neck matching what would be a putter face edge perpendicular to the floor line. Both pupils will each look straight out at the line, and there will be in effect a horizontal line between the two pupils that matches the floor line. Now close the left eye and see that the floor line cuts right across the bridge of your nose, so that the right-eye-only view of the horizontal line shows a piece of the former two-eye line that connects the right eye's pupil and the bridge of the nose, and this small segment still matches the floor line. With the left eye still closed, swivel the head while keeping the right-eye line of sight fixed straight out. The "spot" in the right eye where the glasses dot used to be will run straight along the line if the swivel is done properly. Whatever occupies this spot in the right eye at the end of the head swivel is where the putter actually aims. This spot should be still somewhere off to the left on the floor line. If you end up with the gaze staying fixed in a steady straight-out gaze thru the one dot but looking at a spot off the floor line to the left, then your head turn is to blame or you were never square to the floor line to start with so that the horizontal line or card edge across both pupils matches the floor line. Let me know if this helps. Geoff

 
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72.138.20.230

alternate way to make a line on one's glasses

December 28 2007, 2:39 PM 

Since I wear non-cheap prescription glasses (that I don't want permanently marked with a Sharpie , I invented another method of creating such a line on my glasses last night.

A thin rubber band can be stretched around the glasses' frame from one side to the other, so that both lengths of the band run horizontally across the glasses. I adjusted the rubber band to run just below my pupils while staring in a mirror with my straight-out gaze.

It occurred to me that a pair of 3M PostIt Notes would also work - the top sticky edge can demarcate the line on your glasses. In fact a PostIt Note with a small hole punched in it could be used to replace the "telescope" trick described in the book.

Likewise, I imagine that if you punched a hole through the sticky part of the postit note, you could use the punched out sticky circle to make a non-permanent dot on your glasses.

 
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Cliff

75.61.95.181

Alignment

December 31 2007, 12:11 AM 

Further along this topic. I know my right eye is slightly higher than my left eye. I also wear corrective glasses, graduated, for sight correction both near and far. (The glasses don't correct for one eye higher than the other.)

I'm a fairly decent putter. Can lag with the best of them. Seldom three putt. BUT, up close, in the six to nine foot range I tend to miss left.

So today I went to a flat spot on the practice green and with the aid of a 2x4 and chalk line I set up to try and find out why I miss so many short putts. What I found was, when lined up correctly, the hole appears to be to the left of where I'm aiming with the aids. Without the alignment guides, I adjust to make the hole 'look' like where it should be, but in reality I'm aiming left of the hole.

How do I go about straightening my alignment such that when I line up correctly the hole isn't left of where it should be?

Hope this makes sense.

Cliff



    
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24.28.248.243

Eyeline Skewed Left

January 1 2008, 7:38 AM 

Dear Cliff,

When you say your right eye is "higher" than the left, this would only be due to your neck tilting the head out of level to the left or the left shoulder is lower or the left leg is shorter (standing upright) or an "open" stance of the shoulders (in a putting address posture), thus lowering the left eye and raising the right eye above a level horizon line in erect posture (like an airplane banking left) or skewing the eyeline out-to-in across the target line in a putting posture. (The only other explanation is you have asymmetrical genes and a weird face!)

Try drawing a line across your bathroom mirror (perhaps using masking tape and a carpenter's level) and stand before this line "casually or naturally" and see if the left eye is low and right eye is high. If so, then look carefully at your posture and your neck to make sure you are standing erect and determine whether it is your neck, shoulder or leg that is causing the imbalance.

With a sense of what feels "natural" being incorrect, practice paying attention to what it feels like to CHANGE your posture from "natural" to "correct". (It may be a slight move in the lower back and neck with a subtle touch in the back of the left thigh.) Repeat this corrective move until you sort of know what to expect for these feelings.

Now combine this with a sense of the "zenith" of the sky. If the sky is imagined as a giant inverted bowl or dome or hemisphere with you standing in the utterly flat desolation of the Gobi Desert, the zenith is the "bottom" of the inverted bowl, the highest point of this sort of sky overhead. With good posture upwards from ankles thru neck and head, make sure your vertical axis aims out of the crown of your head straight at the zenith.



If the vertical axis of posture is tilted left by the neck, the shoulders, or the legs, the above looks like this in space:



When you set up to the ball and putter face with square posture, it looks like this:



The eyeline (also the skull line) matches the line from ball to target in space only because there is no tilt of the head by the neck, shoulders, or stance (now that you bend forward at address, a shorter leg does not skew the eyeline left, but an "open" stance does).

This is what a 10-foot putt looks like when the eyeline is skewed a mere 1 degree to the left of square:



The upshot of all this is misperceiving the location of the target is space is almost entirely GEOMETRY of the setup and NOT OPTICS of how the eyes "see". It's more about how you position your body rather than the peculiarities of your eyesight.

Now, on the green with a chalk line, get a pair of cheap goggles or glasses and draw a line across the lenses from corner piece to corner piece at the level of the two pupils. Wearing this "eyeline", set the goggles eyeline to match the chalkline, with square shoulders aligned parallel to the target chalkline and with hips and ankles the same. This is how it should feel when setup with no tilt in the head / neck.

You can do the same with a ruler beneath your pupils, setting the edge of the ruler to match the chalkline when the ruler edge also transits each pupil equally.

Once you get the eyeline matching the target line without tilt, you also have to have the line of sight aimed straight out of the plane of the face the same direction an arrow thru the back of your head out the bridge of your nose aims (at the ball). Aim the face first, and then look with the eyes where the face aims.

Finally, with both of those matters sorted, you also have to turn your head like "an apple on a stick" with only the stick rotating so that the top of the head stays in one location in space the whole time the head is swiveling the face and eyesight down the line. If you place your index finger tip on the top point of your head and then swivel the head down the line, the point of the skull beneath the finger tip will stay there. If you are misdirecting your eyeline to the left of the real target location, this point on the top of your head will slide left out from under your finger tip during the swivel.

At no time during any of this do the eyes shift in the head to re-aim the line of sight out of the face. The line of sight ALWAYS looks the same direction the face is aiming.

Now with beginning posture having the vertical axis of the erect body aimed to the zenith, set up to a chalkline bending into the address posture, square the neck and head so the eyeline matches the target line, face the ball with the gaze aiming the line of sight the same direction the face aims, and swivel the head and face down the line with a fixed gaze until the face points somewhere. The face should run straight down the chalkline and end up pointing right dead at the target, not left.

None of this has anything to do with so-called "optics" or eye dominance. It's just pure geometry, the same for every normal golfer.

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My wife would agree with you.

January 1 2008, 10:50 PM 

I am a little weird. When being fitted for my latest glasses, when the mark the pupil, it became apparent that the right eye was in fact slightly higher than the left.

I'll be taking your suggestion and mark up some glasses with a straight line and try to narrow my problem done.

Thanks for the input. Happy New Year.
Cliff

 
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Allen H

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Re: Aiming and alignment

December 18 2007, 7:59 AM 

THIS POST ANDS THOSE RESPONSIVE TO IT ARE SET OUT IN A SEPARATE THREAD ON LASERS AND MOTOR SKLIIS LEARNING HERE: Motor Skills Learning. -- GM


Just to pass on this "product review"....I also have(had) alignment issues. Geoff told me so ! LOL.

I purchased the NSI-OptoSmart Laser Putting Trainer LPT.

I think it is a wonderful alignment aid device. Very lightweight. I especially like the nice SOLID laser line (not just a dot). The line goes over the top of the golf ball at address & extends to your target, so you can check your set-up. If indoors the line will project onto the wall.

The trigger button can be placed on the putter handle so you can easily push the button without altering your hand positions. Also the laser can be "flashed" on if you simply want to check your aim to see if you're aimed to where you "think" you're aimed. Or the laser line can stay on (without holding the button down) if you want to view what your putter face is doing during your stroke.

Currently the item is in stock so you might want to consider it. To me it's well worth the $39.95 + shipping.

Hope this helps, Happy Putting !! Allen


    
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sammy

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Laser putters are bogus

January 2 2008, 11:35 PM 

How many straight putts to the hole does anybody encounter in a round of golf? I don't know about you, but I seldom have straight putts unless they are within 5 feet of the hole, and even then. If you can't align your putter for a 5 foot straight putt you have serious eye and brain issues.

So these laser-guided gizmos are useless when aiming for a breaking putt that requires you to find a line that is aimed away from the hole. How can you determine if you are aiming correctly if on a breaking putt you have nothing to aim at other than an imaginary target line perhaps no more than 5 feet long??

What I find incredulous is that people come on this forum and say they are always aiming to the left or right of the hole, and then are unable to logically compensate for their consistent error.. as if they are unable to adapt to their biased consistency ..!!!

These laser gizmos are just a crutch for people who think that techology will replace their inability to read the line and then execute a controlled putting stroke.

The only situation where these laser gizmos are any good is at a mini-putt park ..!!!

 
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Aiming as a Separate Fundamental Skill

January 4 2008, 4:55 AM 

Dear sammy,

Aiming is separate from targeting. Once a target is selected (by the Reading skill), the golfer is then presented with a "straight putt" at and to the target (a spot on the ground near the hole). In this sense, ALL putts are straight, and straight putting is a third separate skill. When a pro player uses the phrase "commit to the line" on a breaking putt, this is what he really means.

A laser trainer is not used to read the putt and select a target, but is useful only after the target is identified. At that point, the golfer is working on the Aiming skill, and the laser is helpful if used AFTER the golfer tries his or her best aim before turning on the laser to find out how well the aiming was performed ("knowledge of results" feedback or KR). The laser is less useful when the lighted beam is aimed or when a laser line across the green is used to orient the setup and perceptions to what is in fact straight where the p[utter face aims, but even this is not without benefit. There are other uses that help as well.

Cheers!

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sammy

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Laser conundrum ??!!!

January 4 2008, 1:27 PM 

Thank you Geoff for that explanation, but it still does not justify the purchase and use of a laser gismo. The original poster, L.J. says he/she is consistently aiming to the left of the target. How does a laser gizmo help him compensate on the putting green for this deficiency?

The laser gizmo will certainly confirm his problem, but how will it actually remedy it?

I suppose it will give him an idea how badly his alignment is biased, but after that what good is the thing?

Let's assume L.J. is a humongous 5 degrees off on a 10 foot putt. How will he be able to compensate for that amount of error since he is not even conscious of it? How can he gage a 5 degree (or less) of putter misalignment and make a correction? It becomes a total guess .. right ???


 
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Allen H

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Re: Laser conundrum ??!!!

January 4 2008, 5:53 PM 

It is really quite simple, not very complicated at all. Not everyone KNOWS how to take advantage of what a laser line can do for you, to help you improve. It is a fact that MOST of the technology that now exists DOES NOT help the avarage golfer.

Just because YOU don't "get it" does not mean other golfers don't also.

You could use a simple string line set-up too. "Different stokes for different folks"

HAPPY PUTTING !! Allen

 
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sammy

65.95.163.161

Re: Laser conundrum ??!!!

January 5 2008, 1:38 AM 

Oh I "get it" .. Allan H .. and I have concluded that golfers need not own a laser gizmo putter or attachment. All they need to do is go to their local big box golf store and try one out on their putting 'green'.

Actually, the average golfer cannot realistically utilize a laser gizmo because it does not diagnose where his 'misalignment' originates. I think it is best used by a teaching pro observing how somebody putts, and then advise how to make corrections to their putting setup and stroking.

Golf is now filled with so much bogus 'technology' it boggles the imagination. Of course the gullible golfer with money in his pocket and no time for practice will get easily suckered into the newest 'toy' to 'help' him improve instantaneously.

The only problem is the average golfer is somewhat ignorant and putting a laser gizmo in their hands is somewhat futile ....

 
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24.28.248.243

Motor Skills Learning and Training Aids

January 5 2008, 7:50 AM 

Dear sammy,

In response to your question(s) above:

"The laser gizmo will certainly confirm his problem, but how will it actually remedy it?

I suppose it will give him an idea how badly his alignment is biased, but after that what good is the thing?"

The issue is always what good is a training aid? or phrased differently, is this specific training aid something that a golfer can use to learn something about how to putt on the course in a good way of learning, and if so, how?

The general principle is: so long as the golfer is "deliberately" focused upon the "skill" or a subcomponent of the skill for the task of putting a ball into the cup, any training aid can be useful learning tool but only to the extent it helps the golfer understand and experience the nature of performing the skill effectively and consistently.

For example: the baseboard along a wall. What does it teach about the stroke and how does the golfer use it to learn?

Setting up parallel to the wall with the putter toe just off the baseboard, the baseboard teaches how to avoid making a stroke across / beyond the line from ball to target -- that is, what sort of physical motion works for that, and what sort doesn't. The baseboard also teaches how to make a thru-stroke that hews to the target line thru and a little past impact, without the toe separating from the baseboard but retaining its starting gap off the baseboard thru impact -- that is, what sort of physical movement works for that dynamic and what doesn't.

Implied in this is a dynamic or physical pattern that is desirable to learn, and either explicit instruction about the physical movement that accomplishes this pattern or the golfer's trying to discern the explicit "know-how" independently, without the benefit of instruction. In so many words, it is the golfer's job when using a training aid to "suck the know-how for the physical motion out of the use of the aid."

Know-how is not good enough if it is merely implicit and the golfer cannot discuss and explain at least to himself or herself what the movement should be and how to perform it and why a certain physical motion is preferable to other possible choices.

A laser aid in putting used as above works this way for teaching explicit know-how that carries over to play on the course:

The golfer receives instruction that this combination of postures, gaze, and head-face motion generates accurate perceptions from beside the ball about where in objective reality the putter face is aiming at some distance across the green. The golfer tries to perform this and identifies what he or she thinks is the accurate spot across the green where a putter face is aiming. Then the golfer turns on the laser to find out objectively whether the trial assessment of the putter face aim was objectively correct or off to the left or right, and if so, how far off. (This is standard "immediate feedback in the form of knowledge of results or KR" in the lingo of the psychology of learning). The stimulus is the putter face, the response is the assessment of where it aims, and the KR is right or wrong and if wrong how so.

At this point, the golfer's job is to "figure out" why the result (KR) was what it was. If the KR says the golfer's assessment of aim and the laser agree, that may or may not indicate that the recommended procedure is sound and was correctly performed. It may just indicate that the golfer did something other than what was recommended but just got lucky. A KR of "correct assessment, golfer and laser agree" will not, however, occur if the recommended procedure was correctly performed but the procedure was not a good one or a sound manner for generating an objectively accurate assessment. If the KR is "wrong assessment, objective reality of putter face aim from laser does not agree with golfer's assessment" causes the golfer to question whether he or she correctly performed the recommended procedure.

So the golfer uses KR of "correct" to confirm the soundness of the recommended procedure in the first instance and later to "reinforce" correct application or performance of the recommended procedure; the golfer uses KR of "incorrect" as a prompt to self-diagnose with the trial performance still fresh in memory what flawed application of the procedure might account for the exact KR (why was the assessment off left, a lot .. right, just a bit, etc).

If the golfer understands "what works and why", then the golfer understands "what works" as the recommended procedure, and the "why" this works accurately is know-how at a deeper level about the body in space. So when the golfer tries to ascertain the "cause" or the "why" of the exact KR indicating something wasn't performed correctly, he or she needs to apply the know-how about the cause-and-effect soundness of the procedure.

In the case of aim assessment beside the ball, the "what works and why" takes the form: "what works" is the recommended procedure is to set up to the putter face as aimed and match the throat line and eye line and skull line to the aim line of the putter face; face the ball and look where the face aims; swivel the head-face like an apple on a stick to run the line of sight straight down the same line the putter aim; and use the straight gaze that points where the face aims to identify the exact spot at the end of this line of sight as the spot where the putter face objectively, actually aims. It also includes the "why" this procedure works as golfer know-how: unless the face aims straight at the target line and ball, a simple head swivel cannot as a matter of geometry run the line of sight down the line of putter face aim and some sort of idiosyncratic combination of face aim and head turn other than a simple swivel is required and this combination is elusive to describe and repeat and self-monitor for consistency.

Armed with this "what works and why", the golfer receiving KR of "incorrect" performance of the recommended procedure examine the fresh memory as to whether the setup matched the putter face aim, whether the face aimed at the target line, whether the head turn was a simple axial swivel, and whether the end-of-line assessment utilized the correct aspect of the visual field to "see" where the face and gaze aimed at the end of the head turn. While it is possible that more than one of these subcomponents went awry, t is more common for only one subcomponent per incorrect KR trial to go awry and the reexamination of the fresh memory for diagnosis that explains the KR can identify this "why".

The golfer comes by this recommended procedure either by independent exploration of the issue or from a teacher. The golfer comes by the "why" this works either by independent investigation and analysis or by a combination of the teacher explaining the "why" explicitly accompanied by the golfer exploring the explanation and confirming the soundness of the procedure and the explanation ("what works and why").

This "know-how" all ought to be in place before trying to use the laser to solidify performance. Then the effective use of the training aid is: apply the know-how in a trial assessment of putter face aim and then turn on the laser for immediate KR and then in the case of KR of "incorrect" performance assess what went awry, make the correction in the performance in another trial, and again use the laser to confirm or deny that the second corrective worked.

What the golfer "sucks out of" the training aid's use is "knowledge of performance" or KP, but that is only possible assuming the golfer knows in advance "what works and why".

So what about the situation in which the golfer does NOT have "know-how", but tries to use the training aid to gain the know-how?

First of all, bad golf instructors encourage the use of training aids WITHOUT having the golfer "suck the know-how" out of the experience! This is typical of golf instruction that derives from the 1970s and 1980s notion of using "correct feedback" in a rote repetition to "grove the move" and make it mindlessly automatic and by-pass any need for conscious awareness of "what works and why." These bad instructors often say things like "perfect practice makes perfect performance" and rote repetitive use of a training aid that provides feedback about perfect practice will "grove the move" at an unconscious automatic level. Uh, this is not a sound and correct understanding of motor learning, folks.

The motor learning research and literature distinguishes between KR and KP AND says that rote reliance upon KR is NOT a sound way to learn. I guess you'd have to actually read a motor learning book to know this as a golf instructor.

Here's one such book golf instructors might want to read: Daniel Druckman and Robert A. Bjork, eds., Learning, Remembering, Believing: Enhancing Human Performance (Committee on Techniques for the Enhancement of Human Performance, Commission on Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education, National Research Council (Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1994). This book surveys the research and literature of motor learning for human performance and describes what the research says works effectively to enhance human performance and what does not. Try this conclusion: "A surprising general finding from research on the importance of feedback [KR] to ultimate performance is THAT IT RARELY HELPS AND SOMETIMES ACTUALLY HURTS LONG-TERM LEARNING." (page 50) (emphasis added).

They summarize research on this point as follows:

"Most research on feedback has looked at the effectiveness of knowledge of results [KR]. Schmidt (1988) provides a thorough review of much of the literature pertaining to motor learning. An interesting finding from his laboratory is that if the feedback on results is provided after each trial, IMMEDIATE [practice] PERFORMANCE is better than when only summary performance is given every 15 trials [delayed, intermittent, summary KR]; however, long-term or ultimate learning is facilitated by giving ONLY SUMMARY FEEDBACK intermittently such as after 15 trials."

This is because the golfer needs to extract the "general principle" or "what works and why" about the KP at an abstract, explicit level from engagement with the KR in order for the learning / practice to be useful and effective ("to transfer" in the lingo) during real performance situations. This in turn is because real situations are variable and not identical to the practice situation. Learning the practice situation in a rote repetition manner creates a "crutch" effect and changing the situation materially removes the training crutch and leaves the golfer without the supposed benefit of "perfect practice" during varying situations on the course. The consensus of motor learning research for "transfer" from practice to performance is simply stated: "A general principle seems to be that identical elements are necessary" for rate KR-based practice to transfer into effective performance during play. (page 36). What this really means is that the practice must teach recognition in play of the relevant cues for performance response. "Mastery of a task requires learning the pool of relevant stimulus cues, learning to perform the response repertoire, and learning THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CUE CONTEXT AND THE RESPONSES." (page 48).

Practice with a training device most likely includes "irrelevant" cues or stimuli, such as the look and metal rails of a stroke track. Grooving a move by rote use of a stroke track as always insisted upon by Pelz and almost every one else in the training aids business trains the golfer to irrelevant stimuli / cues and makes the performance dependent upon the presence of these cues in the manner of an addiction. "An important conclusion from this research is that once automatic responses are attained to a stimulus set [eg, training aid device with specific cues, some if not most of which are irrelevant in comparison to available on-course performance cues], changes in even part of that set will substantially disrupt performance. If lengthy training leads to automatic responses to task irrelevant stimuli, which are not similarly linked to those responses in the transfer context [ie, on the course], transfer performance will be impaired [ie, on-course putting will sort of suck]." (page 49). The training device should be designed or its actual manner of practice use taught so as to provide "cueing potential" for real-world cues. "In order to execute the appropriate actions [in play], a person needs to be able to recognize the cue in the target task [play situation] as the same cue that was used for training." (page 55). Abstract principles as to the "relationship between the cue context and the responses" allows for this recognition of relevant cues in play even when the practice situation includes irrelevant cues.

"An explanation for the lack of long-term benefit from error feedback [immediate KR of the "incorrect" sort] was suggested by Miller (1953), who realized that offering feedback concurrent with doing a task might serve as a crutch. When the feedback is removed during performance, those trained with the feedback are at a disadvantage. Goldstein and Rittenhouse (1954) provided some of the first evidence that concurrent feedback (as opposed to summary information at a delay) produces short-term gains but no long-term benefits. One should not conclude that it is optimal to deprive the learner of any knowledge of results [KR]; rather, feedback should not provide too much information too soon." (pages 50-51).

Since the elements (situational cues) in the practice are not identical to the relevant cues in play situations, transfer critically depends upon "abstract" know-how about "what works and why". Surveying the research on "The Role of Abstract Concepts and Rules", Druckman and Bjork conclude: "The studies provide strong support for the benefits of abstract instruction, but it is important to emphasize that abstract instruction in the absence of concrete examples rarely results in transfer." (page 39). "Although concrete experience is critically important, the teaching of abstract principles has been shown to play a role in acquiring skills over a broad domain of tasks [ie, useful in a wide array of situations during play]. Somewhat surprisingly, giving immediate and constant feedback may fail to optimize performance; delayed and intermittent feedback [of the KR sort] may produce superior results because it allows learners to detect and self-correct errors and it diminishes reliance on extrinsic sources [ie, training device with irrelevant cues]." (page 56).

These "abstract principles" are gained either by a good instructor / coach who can explain and teach them effectively or by the learner "digging them out of the earth" as Ben Hogan worked to solve his duck-hook ballstriking plague. After Hogan had spent years on the range "digging it out of the dirt", he was asked "what's the secret" and he responded: "You have to know how to do it." He did NOT say: just go to the range and practice perfect movement; he said he had to derive the "know-how" in an abstract way so he understood "what works and why". This is an example of a golfer gaining the abstract knowledge of "what works and why" the hard way. The easy way is IF a good instructor can just explain it to the golfer, now, without the agony of wasted years trying to figure it out on your own.

With all due respect, almost all golf instructors are stuck on this "rote repetition" notion of effective motor skills learning. This is not a good thing. The mere fact that it is now the 21st century ought to prompt golf instructors to at least revisit the issue of effective motor learning to see what the real experts are now saying, but apparently golf instructors in general have been content simply to echo what was current in the 1970s without critical analysis and even though this 1970s stuff wasn't even an accurate understanding of effective motor skills learning at the time, but was a watered down ("dumbed down") and ineffective garbling of sound teaching even then.

So, setting aside these "rote repetition grooves the move" golf instructors, how does the golfer "suck the know-how out of a training situation (whether a driving range, a stroke track, a laser, or another situation)? Fundamentally, the golfer has to pay attention to KP or knowledge of performance and constantly look for cause-and-effect relationship between certain performance strategies and the results [KR]. "A final distinction that can be made is between knowledge of results and knowledge of performance: the former refers to how well one did at executing a task in terms of the outcome of the action; the latter refers to the action or movement pattern involved in the skill (e.g., "your elbow was bent when you tried to hit the ball")." (page 50). Out of this exploration, the golfer independently extracts "invariants" in an abstract form of cause-and-effect principles so he or she understands and can self-explain and / or teach others "what works and why".

You are correct that mindless "use" of the laser does not effectively teach much that transfers to on-course play, but incorrect to dismiss use of such a training device IF used in conjunction with a good golf instructor or at least with the general idea of "sucking the know-how" for movement of the body out of the training aid's use.

Aside from all this, a laser line projecting straight off a putter face, in and of itself, as a form of "intrinsic" cueing (as opposed to feedback about an action or trial), has some benefit is familiarizing the golfer with the "look and feel" of setting up to a target line and gaining a more physical awareness of what the body relationship to the target line should be during setup, aiming, and stoke. Obviously, this is an "irrelevant cue" in the sense of not being available during play, but the golfer can abstract the know-how of assessing his physical relationship to the target line and apply the knowledge during play using "relevant" (i.e., "situationally present") cues, such as looking at the aim line on the putter head and imagining it extending straight off the face in the same way then laser line did during practice.

In conclusion, all training aids include irrelevant cues the golfer needs to be aware of and filter out while extracting the abstract know-how from using the training aid about the relationship between the relevant cues, KR, and KP or what to do with the body to get the desired result using the on-course situational cues. A good teacher does that and is good at helping that process. Technology per se encourages poor learning and bad instructors don't stack up against good instructors who know some important things about motor skills teaching and learning. As a consequence of the history of golf instruction especially for putting since about 1970, the world is vastly overcrowded with golfers who have yet to engage in sound learning of the important skills for putting, including the Tour exemplars everyone seems to believe have the skills down cold. They don't. In general, the Tour pros and a few hard-core others are casting about trying to figure things out, and end up mostly following what others validate, which is a learning style not significantly better than the herding instinct to move to the middle of the herd for safety.

Further research:


Adams JA. A closed-loop theory of motor learning. Journal of Motor Behavior (1971), 3:111-150.

Adams JA. Historical review and appraisal of research on the learning, retention, and transfer of human motor skills. Psychol Bull. (1987), 101:41-74.

Amorose, A.J., & Smith, P. J. K. Feedback as a source of physical competence information: effects of age, experience and type of feedback. Journal of Sport and Exercise Psychology (2003), 25(3), 341-359.

Christina RW. Motor learning: future lines of research. In: Safrit MJ, Eckert HM, eds. The Cutting Edge in Physical Education and Exercise Science Research (Champaign, Ill: Human Kinetics Publishers Inc. 1987), 26-41.

Joseph, Daniel P., The Effects of Augmented Verbal Information Feedback in the Motor Skill Learning of Totally Blind Subjects Fourteen to Twenty-one Years of Age (microfiche Nov. 1985) (This study examined the effects of Knowledge of Results, Knowledge of Performance and a combination of the two in the learning of a novel motor task by totally blind subjects. Thirty-three totally blind subjects tossed a velcro ball dart at a target while receiving augmented verbal information feedback. Each subject completed three learning sessions and one retention session, each consisting of 30 trials. During learning sessions subjects received one of three forms of verbal information feedback. Across each of the sessions, the combination of Knowledge of Results and Knowledge of Performance generated a higher performance mean. The increase in performance mean across learning sessions supports the position that totally blind subjects are able to use augmented verbal information feedback to improve the performance of their gross motor skills.).

Frank, Monica A. Feedback, Self-Efficacy, and the Development of Motor Skills (Behavioral Consultants), http://www.behavioralconsultants.com/feedback.htm.

Kamen, Gary, et al. Foundations of Exercise Science (Lippincott Williams & Wilkins 2001).

Pew RW. Toward a process-oriented theory of human skilled performance. Journal of Motor Behavior (1970), 2:8-24.

Schmidt RA, Young DE. Transfer of movement control in motor skill learning. In: Cormier SM, Hagman JD, eds. Transfer of Learning (Orlando, Fla: Academic Press Inc. 1987), 47-79.

Schmidt RA. A schema theory of discrete motor skill learning. Psychol Rev. (1975), 82:225-260.

Schmidt RA, Young DE, Swinnen S, et al. Summary knowledge of results for skill acquisition: support for the guidance hypothesis. J Exp Psychol [Learn Mem Cogn]. (1989), 15:352-359.

Schmidt RA and Wulf G. Continuous concurrent feedback degrades skill learning: Implications for training and simulation, Human Factors (1997), 39: 509-525.

Schmidt RA, Lange C & Young DE. Optimizing summary knowledge of results for skill learning, Human Movement Science (1990), 9: 325-348.

Seidel, Robert J., Perencevich, Kathy C. & Kett, Allyson L. From Principles of Learning to Strategies for Instruction: Empirically Based Ingredients to Guide Instructional Development (Springer 2004).

Swinnen SP, Schmidt RA, Nicholson DE, Shapiro DC. Information feedback for skill acquisition: instantaneous knowledge of results degrades learning. J Exp Psychol [Learn Mem Cogn]. (1990), 16:706-716.

Thompson RF, Barchas JD, Clark GA, et al. Neuronal substrates of associative learning in the mammalian brain. In: Alkon DL, Farley J, eds. Primary Neural Substrates of Learning and Behavioral Change (New York, NY: Cambridge University Press 1984), 71-100.

Wallace, Stephen A.; Hagler, Richard W., Knowledge of Performance and the Learning of a Closed Motor Skill, Research Quarterly (May 1979), 50(2):265-71 (Learning is possible in the absence of knowledge of performance when knowledge of results is present, but a higher level of performance is achieved when both types of information are present).

Weeks DL, Kordus RN., Relative frequency of knowledge of performance and motor skill learning, Res Q Exerc Sport. (Sep. 1998), 69(3):224-30 (This study examined the effects of variations in relative frequency of knowledge of performance (KP) on acquisition, retention, and transfer of form for a multilimb closed sport skill. Two groups received either 100% relative frequency of KP or 33% relative frequency of KP while learning the soccer throw-in skill. Participants were boys between the ages of 11 and 14 years who were unfamiliar with the skill. Participants performed a 30-trial acquisition phase in which KP was provided about one of eight aspects of form. Following acquisition, five trial retention and transfer (to a target at a different distance than experienced in acquisition) tests were administered at 5 min, 24 hr, and 72 hr. Although no group differences were found for accuracy scores, the 33% group had higher form scores in acquisition and all retention and transfer tests. It was concluded that reducing the relative frequency of KP eliminated a dependency on KP to guide performance in acquisition, which was beneficial for maintaining form in conditions in which KP was absent.).

Williams, Mark & Hodge, Nicola J., eds. Skill Acquisition in Sport: Research, Theory and Practice (Routledge 2004).

Winstein, CJ. Knowledge of results and motor learning - implications for physical therapy, The Free Library (Am. Phys. Ther. Ass'n 1991), ("The motor learning literature and clinical practice protocols are surprisingly consistent in showing that, during the practice phase in most tasks, nearly any variation that increases the availability (eg, immediacy, precision, frequency, number of channels) of information feedback benefits performance and increases the rate of improvement over trials. Because performance benefits from such conditions, it is easy to assume that these conditions also benefit learning and retention. Recent research, however, has revealed that certain variations of KR that provide information feedback less often during practice prove to be more beneficial for long-term learning and retention than practice conditions with feedback provided more often. These feedback variations that appear to enhance learning pertain to the scheduling of KR during practice and include (1) KR relative frequency, which is the proportion of trials receiving KR; (2) bandwidth KR, which provides KR after trials for which performance is outside a given error tolerance range; and (3) KR delay, which provides KR following some temporal delay after completion of a response." ... "These findings run counter to the conventional viewpoint that less frequent KR should degrade learning. [18,19,50] Instead, a condition with less frequent KR was shown to enhance learning, at least as measured on a no-KR retention test. From a practical standpoint, conditions that provide KR more frequently may be appealing because of the temporary effects on performance. These effects, however, may not be beneficial to learning in the form of retention performance when compared with conditions with less frequent KR.").

Winstein CJ, Schmidt RA. Reduced frequency of knowledge of results enhances motor skill learning. J Exp Psychol [Learn Mem Cogn]. (1990), 16:677-691.

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You would be a good candidate to go through a putter fitting with an Edel Golf putter fitter. They almost always can find a putter among the many combinations in the fitting system that you can aim accurately. Loft, lie, length are also part of the fitting as well as finding a putter that you can control your distance with.

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