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Directed force putters

February 17 2016 at 12:03 PM
Stuart  (Login stuartca)
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Hey Geoff,
Wanted to see if you have heard of or had any opinions on the directed force putter? It claims to be lie angle balanced and will not rotate off the lie angle once the stroke begins. They have a little gadget they use to demonstrate how much normal putters and normal face balance putters rotate all of the place without conscious hand control. Just wanted to see what you thought of them.
http://youtu.be/gN4RUpYH55w

Thanks,
Stuart

 
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sammy
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174.91.52.230

Directed Force Putter

February 21 2016, 4:59 PM 

Geoff.... good to see your interest in Directed Force Putter with this posting. I trust my past comments were also helpful in your analysis of this new putter, namely:

Geoff…. what is your opinion on the DF Putter and the claims made for SBST putting stroke jig to demonstrate the putter stroke stability.

Website: http://www.directedforce.com/

Here are the four YouTube videos made by Bill Presse, the inventor and owner of the company:

Introducing Directed Force Putters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4RUpYH55w

Putter Arc Demonstration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RClqTCn39A

PressGrips - Integrated Forward Press Technology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdS0L4W20rs

Remote Fitting Instructions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H09-tuLeQnM

Also, here are the Presse patents for the DF putter and grip for your information:

8,932,148 -- Elliptical golf club grip

9,233,280 -- Self-balancing putter

IIRC, you are or have been involved with a putter company for design advice. The DF putter looks interesting based on the claims. Thanks.

 
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Joe Duffer
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50.141.99.11

Interesting Concept

March 23 2016, 10:58 PM 

I'm with Stuart... Geoff, what say you?


    
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Geoff Mangum
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Owner
71.54.54.234

Hard to Watch

March 23 2017, 12:29 AM 

Dear Folks,

Forgive me if I "don't give a sh*t about putter gimmicks". They are about as helpful as a freckle on the butt.

The gizmo on the DF putter illustrates some design physics resisting twisting in the back and thru, at least when the putter is soled flat to the ground and the motion is not greatly tilted. But what happens when the golfer's body motion contradicts the putter head physics -- who wins? I hate to pop your bubble of hope (actually, don't hate it at all), but the golfer's physics is almost always GREATER than the putter head's pitifully weak little physics. The arms are ten times more massive than the entire putter, and probably 20 times more massive than the putter head, and probably 50-100 times more massive than any special weighting scheme that is responsible for the putter head's interesting, weak physics.

If the putter head's physics are sufficiently strong that they OVERRULE my body motion pattern, so that I FEEL the putter head twisting its handle inside my grip, I'll call you and tell you what lake I helicoptered that crap into.

Get skill. It's 20-100 times more helpful than any "little physics" in a putter design.

Or in other words, stop obsessing about putters and try to meet the skills demands posed by the game of golf with "reasonable" equipment wielded with "big boy" physics.

Cheers!

Geoff Mangum


    
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