Guys,
Have a look see at these, I slid these over a piece of copper wire to help line them up and hold them for photo purposes:) I like the feel of the plastic skirted one for sure if it was more perfectly anchored to the skirt... These would not be ready to shoot, I was just messing around to have a look see myself at what it might feel like
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cc32b3127cce8fe9bf45d56500000016108BcNXLVo3aq
The skirt of the other lead looking came from a Predator and it too feels really good on like this, might really be something to get these anchored on really good. They would not fit rifles with a magazine, but those of us with the single shots surely could:)