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So my 42nd birthday is looming (July 10) and that has me down already. Then yesterday Dr Davis called to say there is one more protocol (ultra low dose (75 menopur) we can try but after that.... (Im simultaneously cycling natural with Dr Zhang this month because Cornell's lab is closed) Dr Davis gave me the DE speech and basically said if this doesn't work he's out of ideas. Im starting to get to the point where I feel like there is no hope of conceiving with my OE. Im really down. Ive started drinking coffee, wine etc... and not just a little bit. It seems everyone has a story of a friend who got pregnant at 40- something. But no one ever talks about the rest of us who didn't' Im feeling so hopeless and such a loss of not having my own genetic child. Every woman i see in the street between 20-35 I get angry at because she is young enough to have her own child. It seems unfair that I didn't find my partner and my own financial stability until later on...needless to say Im feeling very sorry for myself. I know this is unproductive... but it SUCKS!
Anyway Im rambling, just sharing some feelings...
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...about how you feel. We all feel ripped off, cheated, resentful, despondent, hopeless, etc etc, sometimes. Sometimes for long times, actually. It's nice that he's both giving you one more alternative to try along with his honest prognosis. It equips you with a choice to can weigh against other options. There are successes at 42, so if you want to act fast and do that cycle with Dr D, that may feel like a good option.
Keep breathing, keep posting...
Hugs, Chix
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I know for a fact Dr. Davis did this protocol on a 42 year old who got pregnant with twins and got 3 eggs from it. I begged Dr Spandorfer to do this protocol on me and he agreed , but insisted on estrogen priming with it. It was the worst cycle I ever had. I think you should try it, but DO NOT do it with EPP. I don't think Davis will request it anyway. I was 40 when I did it, and probably would have a child if he did it correctly. The doctors there do not work together at all. It stinks. Do it, and I pray it works for you. I too, am 42 soon and know it's the end of the road for me, so I really understand how you feel. I feel the same way. So sorry. But, you will heal to a certain degree. You will. Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
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Have you done it before? What's your FSH and Amh? Usually poor responders don't do well on it. Ask him about the 42 year old physician that was on this protocol and had twins. I was under the impression she did not EPP. If you are a really poor responder, it can shut you down. This is a tough call. I had a very bad feeling about it, but Dr. S didn't care and I was right. If you've done it before, and you responded fine, I'd do it. If you haven't, and you really only get 2-3 follies with over 20 FSH, I'd say skip it.
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if it weren't for the feminist agenda that I bought into when I was younger, I might have been more serious about marrying young & starting a family...I really don't know. I had two chances to get married when I was younger, I could kick myself now for not taking those chances.
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Yes,me too! It was considered laughable if ypu talked about wanting marriage or children. Now I wonder why that was and why I even cared what people thought.
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When I was a youngin' in college, I remember thinking that all I wanted to do was work!! URGH!! These were the days of Ms.and Working Woman magazine. I even went so far as to say that there was no way I would ever take off more than 6 weeks if and when I ever got pregnant..today..if I could take off 6 YEARS and never work again I would be all too happy!! Youth...and ignorance. That being said, I had one marriage proposal in my twenties but thank goodness I had enough sense to pass that loser up!! It would have been a train-wreck of epic proportions. I think it's easy to look back and think "what if," but the reality is, at least for me I did not give up that much unless I wanted to be miserable for most of my life. It's not my fault that my wonderful DH did not present himself to me until I was in my forties
The one thing I do regret is being clueless about my fertility. So many degrees yet so ignorant as to basic biology..how did that happen? It's like being book smart but lacking street smarts. Should I ever have a little girl, she will not find herself in this position if I can help it!!
All I can say ladies is don't be so hard on yourselves..if the man/men that came along were so perfect, you probably would have ditched your feminist mindset and married them. For some reason you did not and that may have been a true blessing.
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yes, i totally agree but here's the thing...if you could go back and do it would you wait? no matter what happened you still would have a genetic child and grandchildren by now. you could always do de with your soul mate.
or... knowing what you know now would you have tried harder to find a suitable mate?
i totally agree that our generation was ripped off by the agenda; sex and the city is just a sad joke to me now.
and i worry that so many young women still have that mindset, especially when all these oldies are having babies. decades of propaganda can be difficult to reverse.
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I did this protocol with Dr. D with EPP and then did days 2-4 75iu of menopur then stepped up to 150iu of menopur from day 5 of my cycle (not stim day)-trigger. I have always had short cycles of 24-26 days - normally 24 - so I surge early anyhow. My highest FSH - quite awhile ago was 19.8 I think? Anyway, two cycles in a row I got two follicles but surged through the ganerilix both times, so no ER.
I'd say the most you may get is 2 follicles/eggs. Every cycle is different, so don't start if you feel that is will not be a good one. Ask for the day 2 or 3 stats (sure you do) but interpret them yourself.
My FSH on those cycle mentioned above were 5.6 and 6.6 after EPP.
If your FSH is not 12 or less at day 2 then Cor.n.ell will not be able to start your meds, so sure that is why he is recommending EPP to you. You could risk not doing the EPP and then see where your FSH shakes out on day 2. I wonder what my FSH would be if I did not EPP those cycles given it was so low on day 2. Maybe see what happens without the EPP and hope that your FSH start is below 12. BD is right, EPP will suppress you and on lower meds, may not be so good?
I just did a round of 100mg of clomid on days 2-6 "without" EPP and got 3 eggs - two of which were mature. I think if I went another day I might have had 3 mature.
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Sending you a big hug. Have you read the book Inconceivable? It gave me a lot of hope. I'm 39 and ttc #2 with a high FSH. I joined the Fertile Heart phone circles and there was a woman on the line the other night who just announced her pregnancy. She is 45 and pregnant with her first after more than 5 years of struggling. Here is another recent one. Sending you hope and another hug.
