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I wonder what George Bush will say to his bossom buddy in the UK?

Although Blair said the British troops can still perform combat duty, the remaining troops will be hiding in an air base to take up support and training roles just like their Australian comrades.

That means only American soldiers will remain as targets by the insurgents and terrorists, thanks a lot Tony!!

Nap
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(UPDATE) Blair: Britain to cut Iraq force to 5,500 in 2007

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Tony Blair said on Wednesday that Britain would reduce its troop levels in Iraq by 1,600 over coming months, but its soldiers would stay in the country into 2008 as long as they were wanted.

"The actual reduction in forces will be from the present 7,100 -- itself down from over 9,000 two years ago and 40,000 at the time of the conflict -- to roughly 5,500," Blair told parliament.

"The UK military presence will continue into 2008, for as long as we are wanted and have a job to do," he said.

The planned withdrawal comes as British troops hand over responsibility for security in Iraq's southeastern region to Iraqi forces.

It coincides with a surge of US forces in Baghdad in a bid to quell a violent insurgency there.

Blair said the reduction in British troop levels would not mean a "diminution of our combat capability."

British forces will take up a support and training role and most would be located at Basra air base, he said.

Some troops would remain at Basra Palace until the Iraqis were also able to take over that site, but these could be reduced in time.

"Over time ... we will be able to draw down further, possibly to below 5,000 once the Basra Palace site has been transferred to the Iraqis in late summer," he said.


Posted on Feb 21, 2007, 9:00 AM
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Re: Tony Blair announces that the British will Cut and Run from Iraq.

by sign (no login)

A sign of FAILURE OF WAR IN IRAQ. Worse than Vietnam War!!!

Posted on Feb 21, 2007, 10:43 AM
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You always like sensation

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

But you make a bad journalist.

Posted on Feb 21, 2007, 5:29 PM
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UK is pulling out of Iraq

by Napanice (no login)

While the United States has 130,000 soldiers in Iraq, it's closes ally the United Kingdom has only 7,000 while Australia has just over 1,000. So who is bearing the brunt of the total casualties there despite what the U.S. govt is advertising as a coalition of nations?

Now hear this, while George Bush is determined to add a surge of 21,000 more troops in that wartorn country, his bossom buddy Tony Blair of UK has now announced the reduction of British troops in half by the end of 2007. It seems all that rhetorical speeches from George has falled into deaf ears in Great Britain. And with good reasons because Britain has already lost over 1,000 soldiers in that war.

This news will surely put pressure among the rest of the coalition countries specially Italy because of the expenses incurred by these countries in support of a war based on faulty intelligence reports. It could start the wholesale withdrawal of the other troops there, causing a severe demoralizing effect on the Americans who will be left behind.

Now let's see what Georgie and Dick will do after Congress learns about
this politically damaging news.

Nap


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Re: UK is pulling out of Iraq

by marcopolo (no login)

One of the most arrogant leader in the white house should be doing these too---PULL OUT!!!!

Posted on Feb 21, 2007, 1:17 AM
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Migrant Manifesto featured in national media

by Napanice (no login)

The Filipino people should be discussing the issues of national interest so that all political parties will become aware of their concern instead of obligating the candidates to come up with their own platforms which may not coincide with the people's mandate.

Therefore the ofws should ask the government to immediately task the press and its agencies to conduct nationwide broadcasts of forums and discussion groups where ordinary citizens and election candidates can participate to voice their concerns.

Nap

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Pinoys abroad plead for platform-based polls

Filipinos abroad are circulating a petition letter asking their fellowmen in the Philippine voters to base their choices for the May mid-term polls on the candidates' platforms of government and not on personalities.

“We, the overseas Filipinos worldwide, urge each and everyone in the coming May electoral contest to implore all political parties, emerging parties and their respective candidates to bring forth a platform-based campaign so that the electorate can choose credible persons who are worthy to lead the nation,” the petiton said.

The letter was signed by Leila Rispens-Noel and Doris Alfafara who in the Netherlands; Basco Fernandez, Joy Puyat, Filipino-Americans Ren Arrieta, Johnny Pecayo and Cesar Torres; Dennis Yaun based in Luxembourg; and former expatriates Idelfonso Bagasao and James Zamora who are now in Manila.

The proponents of the petition said: “The proposed platform-based campaign is envisioned to change this bad practice [of having] a personality and patronage-based electoral contest.”

“We are encouraging everyone to endorse this manifesto by signing it. We have to be involved in the coming election and we feel this is the way – if not the only way - we can show our concerns and exercise our right as overseas Filipinos to participate in the decision-making process,” Noel said on behalf of the group.

The group said it is calling for robust, transparent, internally democratic and accountable political parties in order to develop a stronger democratic culture in the Philippines.

It also dared those who want to become legitimate servants and leaders to articulate a concrete and doable developmental plan aimed at the Filipino migrant workers around the world.

“We pledge to support legitimate servants of the people running for any public position that aggressively promote the interest of our sector,” the group said.

These are issues revolving around electoral reforms as contained in the Oversease Absente Voting Act, the creation of an office with a Cabinet status such as the ministry of migration and development that will truly work for the interests of migrant workers, among other proposals. Julie Javella-Santos, abs-cbnNEWS.com


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Hopefully we can all send the message accross

by ofw (no login)

I need help in figuring out what really drives "honorable" man and women in plunging to a career where squandering hundreds of millions of "strenghtened" peso daw just to gain a seat in the "prestigious" exclusive boys and girls club.

In an article posted in Abante, Election 2007 | By Ellen February 20, 2007 titled Pagnanakaw sa taumbayan
"Malaking bagay yan. Aabot raw ng P250 milyon ang gagastusin ng isang kandidato sa pagka-senador kasama na doon ang pag-upa ng helicopter at eroplano sa pangangampanya. Biro mo sasabihan kang libre lahat yun. Sino naman ang hindi papayag."

T.G.I.F by Rene Saguisag, Manila Times, Feb16, 2007,
A nation that has lost its way?
"I keep getting asked why I turned down my signed Supreme Court Appointment in January 1987. Or, why I did not run for reelection in 1992 despite the high risk of winning. One reason was I could not support my family on P14, 612.60 a month as senator (about double what I was getting in the Cabinet). The other is my vaunted inferiority complex. I did not think I had what it took to be one, looking at those who had served before me"

Let us do the math here the total salary (P14,612.60 x 72 mos.) of a senator whose term is 6 years will amount to P1,052,107.20 minus P250M equals P248,947,892.80. Whew, can you imagine if you have that amount in cold cash, just counting it would probably take some precious time even with the help of a counting machine but probably quicker if you enlist math wizards in the COMELEC. Who in his right frame of mind is willing to lose P248+ Million just so they can be in the exclusive boys and girls club running around in the holes errrr halls of congress?

In an article titled Pork barrel for politics, not development by YVONNE T. CHUA & BOOMA B. CRUZ of Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism dated September 6, 2004 issue.

"Pork barrel, or simply, pork, refers to appropriations and favors obtained by a representative for his or her district. These funds are discretionary, meaning it is up to each congressman or senator to identify the projects that will be funded by their pork barrel allocation and the beneficiaries of the spending. Senators now get pork barrel allocations of P200 million each, while congressmen are allotted some P65 million each."

Tsk, tsk tsk, well with that portion of money they are still in the red for P48,947,892.80, hmmmmn I wonder what pushes them to squander so much money just so they can do nothing based on Way Kurat's statement which I quote from the same article below:

"Congressmen, however, rarely see anything wrong with their role as patrons of their districts and implementers of projects. “Take that away, ano pang gagawin namin (what else would we do)?” asks Compostela Rep. “Way Kurat” Zamora. “Of course, there’s the national budget, naming of streets, but saturated na rin ang laws. And I think without that (pork), no one will run."

What is really sad is this statement in the same article;

"He says that in one of these tête-á-têtes, a congressman from an impoverished province claimed the going rate in his jurisdiction went as high as P1,500 to P3,000 per voter. “They don’t just buy votes, they pay the antis so they will not vote,” the legislator says.

Another congressman traces the irresistible lure of money to voters to the depths of poverty in the country. “During the final hour, the one who is going to give them P50, which they can use for their needs, is one they’re going to vote for,” he says. “What you did prior to that is glossed over. It is the immediacy of the need.”

Vote buying as a tool to clinch an election victory is likely to change the way legislators use their pork barrel, says the legislator. “In our conversations, they say, ‘you know, it’s useless to have projects. Let’s just save the money and then use it at the 11th hour... If you don’t do that, when well-funded candidates come in, our projects will be forgotten. Don’t count on utang na loob (debt of gratitude) from those you helped. They’ll sell you out because it’s the present that’s important. Those projects, people don’t see it as something they should thank you for personally.’”

Think about it, the present conduct of politics is not conducive to development and progress and this last quote from the same article is really scary;

"A few months before the 2004 elections, a publicist of several members of the House estimated that more than half of all congressmen had not touched their pork for projects, saving it instead for reelection purposes. A legislator from Mindanao also describes politicians as having turned “desperate,” with first-termers sweating the most in fear of losing their seats.

The problem with this new thinking is that the desperation among politicians can only breed and spread more desperation to the populace. As one lawmaker notes, “You have just one flashflood of money, you keep your people poor. It’s like a time bomb and it’s scary.”

We can continue on with our lives or rant and lament our deteriorating electoral contest complete with personality bashing or praising our choice of candidates with no clear cut platform of governance but mostly emotional appeal only to be disappointed once they are elected. The time to demand accountability is now, let us find ways to assert our voice in the coming elections and one of the way is to be part of the initiative at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/OFWMan/ or help these politicians bring the nation further down towards chaotic bloody upheaval of an impending social volcano about to erupt.

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Can an ofw ran for public office?

by Napanice (no login)

Philippine laws require that candidates reside in their locality in order to qualify for candidacy, does that mean an overseas worker who has been out of the country for years cannot become a candidate for elective office?

Just how much do Filipinos know about the election laws and how much do the condidates know about the Philippine constitution?

Nap


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JOE

by marko polo (no login)

Mataas na naman ang kila ni joe abot sa bohok. Something wrong. He is thinking about his ambitions..Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

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Dirty Politicians and who they are.

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They deserve each other

"Recto and Gloria Arroyo's partnership on cheating and stealing votes go a long, long way. They truly deserve each other."

By ELLEN TORDESILLAS

Senators Joker Arroyo and Ralph Recto truly belong to Gloria Arroyo.

We can now throw away whatever illusions we had nurtured for Joker in matters of democratic ideals, honesty and integrity. Never mind Recto. We never expected much from him.

A conversation I heard last week between a PDP-Laban stalwart and a reporter who covered the 2001 senatorial campaign should help explain Joker Arroyo's puzzling maneuvers in the Senate when it comes to issues against Mike Arroyo as well as his decision to be on the administration ticket for his re-election bid.

The PDP-Laban official said, "I really find it difficult to understand Joker being with Gloria."

The reporter said, "I don't find it surprising. During the 2001 campaign, he was profuse in his thanks to Mike Arroyo. So we supposed it was Mike Arroyo who bankrolled his campaign. So who would finance his campaign now if he joined the opposition?"

The financing factor is confirmed to us by a staffer of a senator who belongs to this Wednesday group. He said Malacañang assured his principal that he doesn't have to worry about the costly rental of helicopter and aircraft to traverse the archipelago during the campaign because he will be provided those for free.

A senatorial campaign today, with the astronomical cost of TV ads, would cost at least P250 million. The source told us the Wednesday group re-electionist senators, who are all rating well, were offered at least P100 million each campaign contribution.

How's that for incentive?

In their statement, Arroyo and Recto said, "We ran for the Senate and won on the Arroyo administration slate. Nothing that has happened since gives us reason not to do the same in our reelection bid."

They ran in 2001. In June 2004, the "Hello Garci" tapes came out which showed Gloria Arroyo directing the tampering of election results in her favor. That's "nothing that has happened since"?

We are not surprised with Recto's playing deaf and dumb to the "Hello Garci" issue, which strikes at the legitimacy of Gloria Arroyo's presidency, because that resurrects the ghosts of his "turtle" votes in 2001.

It should be recalled that in the 2001 election, Recto and Gringo Honasan were contesting the 12th and 13th slots. The 12th would get a six-year term and the 13th would get the three-year term that was vacated by Sen. Teofisto Guingona (who had been appointed vice president).

The camp of Honasan questioned the votes that Recto got in Turtle Island in Tawi-Tawi because they exceeded the number of registered voters in that small municipality. Where did the votes come from then? The joke was that even the turtles voted.

Recto also has one important connecting link with Gloria Arroyo: Roque Bello.

Bello is described by Gigi Go of Newsbreak as "a retired regional director of the Commission on Elections (COMELEC) in his 60s who is known in political circles to have the sophistication and the right contacts within the poll body to influence the votes to favor whoever his principal is."

In her exposé on the manufacturing of fake election returns in 2004 to replace with the genuine ones, which showed Fernando Poe Jr., winning over Gloria Arroyo. Go said on May 18, 2001, Arroyo met with Bello as a practice run for the 2004 election cheating operation.

"In that 2001 meeting," Go said, "the President was supposed to have been given Bello the orders to make sure Ralph Recto would win a full six-year term."

Recto and Gloria Arroyo's partnership on cheating and stealing votes go a long, long way. They truly deserve each other.


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Re: Dirty Politicians and who they are.

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No exceptions, ALL politician are corrupt!!!

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Re: Dirty Politicians and who they are.

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exemption not exception. Please correct you raider.

Posted on Feb 14, 2007, 10:24 AM
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Mali ka naman, totoy!

by !!!!!! (no login)

It is EXCEPTION, not exemption!
You are the one who need to learn more about proper english words.

Exampple: (1) With the exception of Don Juan and his family, everybody in the barrio is poor.
(2) Tax EXEMPTIONS are generally given to the poor except those who earn more than the set limit.


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Re: Mali ka naman, totoy!

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Tama ka. Mabuti at nagtuturo ka ng tama at hindi mainit ang ulo mo. Yan ang sinasabi ko kay sa nagaaway. I think I know you...

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Re: Mali ka naman, totoy!

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Yong spelling mo mali. example not exampple!!!

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Re: Mali ka naman, totoy!

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Ayos na yan..mali man ang spelling naiintindihan naman, mali man ang sinabi... exemption or exception... alam na natin ang mensahe.... gud lock sa inio dalwa... tek ker....

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Re: Mali ka naman, totoy!

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O.K. lang sa akin tito andy. No problem. Kung minsan may mga taong over educated lang e...

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Manny Villar's scathing attacks on Gloria and Joe De Venecia

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Malaya

In the service of the people

BY SEN. MANUEL P. VILLAR

(Excerpted from speech at the PMA Alumni Association Homecoming, Feb. 17, 2007, Fort Del Pilar, Baguio City)

Under our republican tradition, we have a presidential form of government with three independent and co-equal branches which are set in motion by an intricate mechanism of check and balance. There is a separation of powers only to the extent that no single branch of government exceeds the limits of its Constitutional authority.

The bicameral composition of our legislature was revived through the collective sentiment of the Filipino people when they ratified the 1987 Constitution. The two-chamber legislative system gives it both local and national perspectives. The members of the House of Representatives elected by Congressional districts are the voices of local constituencies. The Senate whose members are elected at large is more focused on national concerns.

Ever since its creation, the Senate has always been the watchdog of the performance of the executive branch. In the Senate, party lines are crossed when the issues at hand is a matter of national interest.

Unfortunately, there are those who are not comfortable with the independence of the Senate. Our determination to expose what we honestly perceive as anomalies in governance is construed as the work of an obstructionist. But if the Senate remains silent for the sake of pakikisama, it shall be remiss in its duty to the nation. If the Senate takes the path of political accommodation even as the people expect it to be vigilant always in pursuit of the truth, then it abdicates its balancing role.

Hence, it was not surprising at all for some quarters to seek the abolition of the Senate under the guise of a shift to a unicameral parliamentary system by way of the so called People’s Initiative to amend the Constitution.

I am not against amending the Constitution. But the process of Charter change must strictly follow what the Constitution provides. There should be no short cuts. The whole process must be transparent and above board. This was the substance of our argument when we questioned the constitutionality of the spurious People’s Initiative before the Supreme Court.

In an act of judicial statesmanship, the highest court of the land sustained the stand of the Senate.

To ignore the Constitution or to trivialize any of its provisions is to weaken it. When we take liberty with the sanctity of our fundamental law, we undermine the very foundation of our republican democracy.

It is this allegiance to the Constitution and the affirmation of its inviolability that define the reason for being of the whole government, its branches and instrumentalities. Thus, both the Congress and the Armed Forces of the Philippines exist only as instruments of the nation in the service of the people. In a real sense, the soldier and the lawmaker in their own respective ways are the people’s servants. And because ultimate sovereignty resides in the people, the Filipino people are our true masters.

Let me conclude with the words of our foremost constitutionalists: I quote, "We are the Constitution in the sense that it can live only in us, through us, for us, and because of us. The best amendment to the Constitution would be the amendment of our own lives, the amendment of our attitudes, outlook, and actions, the realization that we are free men, and the resolution to live and act as free men."


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Re: Manny Villar's scathing attacks on Gloria and Joe De Venecia

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Gloria and Joe are glued together and true the PIG of the time!!!!

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extra income sa pagsusulat

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hi fellow filipinos sino gusto kumita sa pagsusulat? try nyo to... gudluck!

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Re: extra income sa pagsusulat

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try this.. nakalimutan kng i post http://www.mylot.com/?ref=drizzle_anne

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Lem: "..... dissolution or anulment of marriage...."?

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I hope you are not serious in stating the following:

<We need the ground rules for observance that lay the framework for separation of church and state. Personally, I do not consider that churches should receive any form of tax money or subsidy. Marriage should be cultural and any church should not dictate how couples should live together nor state whatever regarding dissolution or annullment of marriages. This is a matter of conscience between two consenting parties and in a way affected by culture and norms in that community.

Just to broaden the framework of this issue.>

My thoughts on this issues:

Are any of the Churches, Catholic or Protestant in the Philippines,
subsidized by the state? To my knowledge I have not heard of any but
the government may support the charitable institutions ran and operated
by religious groups to help the needy and the poor. I have no
qualms and problem about it.

I should remind you that marriage as a ceremony was sanctified by Christ’s
presence and blessings at the wedding feast at Canaan witnessed by several
visitors and done publicly. This, as an example, has been the foundation
of Christian marriages: officiated by the church with witnesses and done
publicly to declare to the world the union of man and woman and let
no one put it asunder.

Just because you have the right to seek annulment, divorce or dissolve your
marriage....it is not wise to exercise that right without very legitimate
reasons and not solely based on one’s conscience. What is “right” sometimes
may clash with the culture you adhere to and what is “wrong” may sound right
especially on matters that touch one’s feelings, emotion and heart....there
must be religious precepts as guidelines and government laws to protect the
rights of each individual.

I have not undergone such traumatic experience to speak of as an authority on
this issue and beyond this.....I would suggest that you talk to your church
minister or divorce lawyer. What I spoke of above is all what I know.




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I have problems about your statements

by Lemuel G. Abare (no login)

Primarily I am emphasizing about the case of state and the laws of the state inevitably. What applies to the citizen should not be religious. This is the point I am trying to emphasize.

For one thing, money given to the poor by the State should be administered by the State and no one else. Churches should not receive subsidy nor money from the State to run their religious functions. You see, everything that a church does is in the name of that religion. This is where the state infringes into the functions of a religious nature.

I am looking at marriage from the standpoint of law and not of any religion. I am not talking about Christian marriages as there are people who get married outside Christianity. Therefore, your argument does not apply in matters relating to the authority of Christ on a marriage where Christ is not the Lord of the couple. But nevertheless, I agree with you regarding marriage as a culturally supposed by you, although you may not see it that way.

Look, marriage is a contract under state laws, just like any contract that parties agree upon and binding only on them. In fact, the law includes all other aspects related to the marriage contract like the prenuptial agreement and all other agreements the parties might go into. The case of conjugal property is only in Christian countries. This is nowhere observed in all countries.

But you are missing the point regarding your statement of a minister or a lawyer for that matter as I have made express statements about the secularism of the state and the separation of church and state.

Your point is entirely amissed and likely irrelevant under the principles I proposed.

Christian marriage is for Christians. The law cannot be bent into this position that applies for everyone, including Muslims, Hindus and other beliefs.

The founding fathers of the United States were secular and some are trying to paint a picture that is not into the phrase: "the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

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Not too fast, Lem.....

by CoeL (no login)

The First Ammendment guarantees the Christians and non-Christians
the right to the free expression of their faith and it also guarantees
to the non-Christians protection from those who would seek to establish
Christianity as the legal faith of the state. You know that even in the
Philippines this is not so....but the creeping in slowly of secular humanism
will be a threat to any christain church...then, you will see a very effective
separation of the church and state. After the French Revolution came the
Period of Enlightenment.....the mother secular humanism!

Why delve on the church (various christian religion) and state separation
when it will come soon with secular humanism? Have you ever thought that
secular humansim is also a religion to some?

Marriage? When people have been totally secularized, then, what you have in mind
will be practice.

Your 5th paragraph; "........secularism of the state and separation of the
church and state...." means theoritcally thesame simply because secularism will
separate the church and state.

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Re: Not too fast, Lem.....

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Your comment:
The First Ammendment guarantees the Christians and non-Christians
the right to the free expression of their faith and it also guarantees
to the non-Christians protection from those who would seek to establish
Christianity as the legal faith of the state. You know that even in the
Philippines this is not so....but the creeping in slowly of secular humanism
will be a threat to any christain church...then, you will see a very effective
separation of the church and state. After the French Revolution came the
Period of Enlightenment.....the mother secular humanism!

My reply:
The secularization I have in mind might be somewhat different. That is, we have a secularism that is the groundwork of law, not the kind espoused by some movements to derail and destabilize any legal system, as observed in the US, for example. I do not believe in lobbying. What I propose is a system that is set forth by the Constitution through a constitutional convention that frees us forever from a groundwork that is based on a majority's belief system, without and apart from any mention of a religious tenet. God must be the God that is understandable to the many, not the One who has been defined by some religious group. Divine Providence, for example, is a proper word, as it could be understood by the many within the confines of their religious understanding. "Almighty God" is more on the side of monotheists and we know that some do not ascribe to this kind of belief. Primarily my argument is that the state should consider all faiths and beliefs before a Constitution should be set forth to avoid the discrimination of some and to the detriment of a minority. I do not subscribe to the kind that creates a movement to derail the existing status quo.

Your comment:
Why delve on the church (various christian religion) and state separation
when it will come soon with secular humanism? Have you ever thought that
secular humansim is also a religion to some?

My reply:
I do not go along this route. Rather, that everyone should be involved in the formulation of a Constitution patterned after the least - conscience. That is, it is a Constitution that expresses the aspiration of all the Filipino people.

Your comment:
Marriage? When people have been totally secularized, then, what you have in mind
will be practice.

My reply:
As I have mentioned, secularism is not by way of movement and this approach is not necessary. What I have in mind is the secularization of our legal thinking after the pattern and approach I have stated. That is, marriage is a contract within the definition as the state sees it, which includes everyone. I cited the example of dissolution and annullment because these legal procedures should be included in our law to fully express the conscience of every Filipino, not bound by any specific religious tenet. From the standpoint of secularism, the law should see any agreement as a contract and any cultural promulgation as a social contract apart from any reference to a religious dogma or tenet. This is what I am trying to emphasize. There is such a thing as common law, one borne out of culture and the ways of common men and women.

Your comment:
Your 5th paragraph; "........secularism of the state and separation of the
church and state...." means theoritcally thesame simply because secularism will
separate the church and state.

My reply:
Secularism is a system of thinking that emphasizes more that which is common rather than a level of approach that narrows to the confines of a group or a clique or a religious organization. The concept of a social contract for example as applied to marriage does not in anyway negate the conscience of others. For someone who is religiously inclined to see marriage as divine, then the concept of a social contract does not in anyway diminish that understanding. However, the concept of marriage as a social contract does not also prevent another from making a contract with another, in the case of religion that permits polygamy. Likewise, a social contract does not keep the parties from dissolving the agreement and annulling the terms to which they are bound. This is what I mean with secularism and there is no infringement on the church by the state in any case. One's position in a religion will be affected, surely, but then all, under the social contract, under the state, has kept the church separate. Further, the person who does not espouse such in his conscience is free, with the consenting party, exercise his understanding within the bounds stated by law, without aligning himself or herself to the dictates of a religious dogma.

This is what I mean by secularism. It is the prerorative of the state and we should keep religionists from putting their hands into the affairs of the state.

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Is it for real or just wistful thinking....?

by CoeL (no login)

Secularism can be attained in many ways: revolution for a complete
change of mind,constitutional amendments, legal challenge of existing laws
through the court as done here in United States. The nature of secular
humanism creeping into our lives hereb in the U. S. does not come in a
complete package....they trickle in like raindrops and gain its foothold.
However, amending the Constitution to atilor to your pipe dream would be
impossible as you know pretty well majority of the people are deeply rooted
in their Judeo-Christian beliefs. There is no country in this world that is
completely secularized in practice….look at France, followed by Italy, England
and the former Soviet Union. Make no mistake, in any secular victory over our
existing law is a derailment of the status quo at the expense of the majority
and enjoyed by a few.

Do you really believe what you are saying or youre just wistfully thinking
for the sake of arguing? Would you really trust your existing senators and
congressmen or the people to elect a separate body to amend the constitution
to reflect the aspiration of the Filipinos? Look around….and I’ll bet you what
you will get are aspirations of a very few and worse than what you have now!

Is marrying someone a problem in the Philippines among Christians and
non-Christians? I know a lot Muslims who married Christians and they are
the happiest couple around. It is not how they are married but how they
live that counts. They were either in their Mosque and Christian Chruches
or opt for civil ceremony without any problem or what you have in mind is
to protect the “querida system” which has been practice in the Philippines
since the Spanish regime? You want to protect them through secularization
and sacriifice the majority for the few?

Again, you seemed to be confuse....let us based our arguements on has happened
in the past and what is happening now from thhe Period of Enlighttenment to
the present. Secularism is a movement and to some a religion that worship REASON
and later falls to paralyzing disillusionment with every dogma and idea and
devoid of religions support. Once a state is devoid of religious support it
deteriorates, it becomes weary...tired! And, eventually that society will fall
like your body and soul, together they die....this how one civilization marches
to another and again eventually rise up looking to heaven and soon will forget
again and fall.



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It is impossible in our day to think of a purely secular state

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

That I agree. I understand your existential argument. The issue is not existential though. Religionism is in our law books legislated by Congress and made into law, since the First Constitution, by legislators who have no idea that outside Luzon there are Filipinos. My proposal argues for a Constitution that reflects the case of our time, that we have Muslims, pagans, animists, Christians, and whatever. We have a broader perspective today of the Filipino people because we have discovered the Tasaday, we have tribes all over the place and we simply cannot promulgate laws that turn blind to their culture and aspirations. Our city folks do not even know what a carabao is, how much more the Filipinos that populate other places?

I refer to this issue to the case of the Philippines. There is a mechanism that addresses these issues in the US. But examine the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the US. Surprisingly, it is very secular.

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I beg to correct your impression.......

by CoeL (no login)

that the constitution is secular. It is not but more
Masonic as it was the language of the time. Look
at the dollar.

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The RTL, the RTL, and the RTTPH

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

I think the founding fathers were more clever than the issue of a face on a dollar bill. What were stated is the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This is pure genius as there are no inherent moral warps, only the aspirations of all men, and common to all men. One could not argue that the founding fathers were moral men, in a nuance, but rather, secular men. We cannot state that they are religious men, else they would have insisted on principles concerning religion and morality. But hardly one could find in the phrases semblance to religion or moral preference. It is secular.

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If so, tell me why........

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the United States is the bastion of democracy
with more Christians than any country in the world
who in most times is morally obligated to help other
countries in need?

If you think our constitution is secular why is it this
country has more christians (Catholic & Protestant) than
any country? If our constitution is secular, how come we
are not like France by this time or even worse? Tell me.



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Ahhh, we cannot mix these this way

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I still argue for secularism for the state.

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Why not?

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You want the Philippines to embrace secularism. hence,
I have shown to you two countries...one, that is literally
secularized and one you claimed to have secular constitution
but in practice is a christian country.

I have shown to you one country that practice what you have
in mind. They mix...with a bitter taste.

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It is still mixed up

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

You cite a secular state that is religious, then you cite a religious state that is secular, whatever. This is not relevant to the issue I raise regarding secularism. What I mean is this, how does the state promulgate a legal right on the issue of marriage and divorce without citing religious preference? Obviously, unless you have a philosophy o nthe matter, you will be mixed up because you move from one side to the other.

On the issue of divorce, you stated that America is a secular country and Christian. Fine. Now, let me ask you, should divorce be allowed for Christians?

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You claimed the U. S. constitution....

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is secular....I did not. As you have maintained, I noted
inspite of your claim how come NAmerica is a christian nation
and very progressive compared to France a declared and practicing secularist?

France is a christian nation that embraced secularism and NAmerica at
the onset refused secularism. To give you a picture of your ideas...look at France.
To accentuate the difference...I cited NAmerica as an example. All my responses to you were and are in parallel...you talked about ideas but I cited historical instances that your ideas will not work for the Filipinos.

The issue of the poor....we are talkinng about secularism...abstract ideas...concepts...and its disadavantages/advantages and effects between the majority of people who are christians
and the state. The poor are not improbable abstract...they exist and not like your ideas
that has yet to be tested. The poor is a condition that exist!

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I think it is not a matter of comparison

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

I also doubt that America is a Christian nation which would mean that the majority is religious and those who do not share their views of militant conviction are marginalized. I think to argue for an effect is not the point of debate. The point I raise concerns the framework of legal rights for which a religion made way to put into statute books. Thid does not reflect the moral tone of the entire Filipino people.

I think we cannot use America and France as a matter of principle. We would have to remind ourselves that France helped America and likely for reasons that were not religious under, liberty, equality and fraternity. That France is not better than the US is not a valid point for the issue of legal rights of Filipinos against the insistence of a majority to institute their moral rights into law.

The point is that a religion does not apply for all. The state cannot institute a particular brand of moral rights to enforce those rights who have a different religious persuasion.

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Facts remains thesame inspite of what you think.

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Religious? You are talking about the separation of church and state...and now you are claiming that since America is not religious you have doubts about her being a Christian nation. Non-religious and religious person who believes fundamentally in God are still Christians and being religious per se another aspect. I, myself, is non-too-religious.

There is no sense arguing these issues if you are not for the effect of it. If the existing government can not pass laws for the betterment of the majority, do you think they will do something for a few? Is that being realistic?

By the way, what were the “moral tones” of the Filipinos before Spaniards and Americans came?
And what are really there to change for except for the legal rights of the few? Will these change make the Filipinos more civil? Societies are not founded on ideals but rather on the nature of man....evil. Our basic instinct generates a habit followed by feelings...such is the total sum of a man. However, since we love freedom and such freedom in a society requires some limitations base on morals. Where are these morals coming from? Mostly, if not all, from Judeo-Christian beliefs. Those who can not control their instinct and old nature are less to succeed in life compared to those who can. Make these freedom absolute....secular....and you will have chaos.

France did not helped America for the reasons you stated. They knew they will be defeated by the British superior forces....they preferred a safe passage out knowing that eventually the Americans will win. One should not forget that France was a religious state prior to being a secularist. I cited this nation to show vividly the effects of secularism by their neurotic rapid changes in moral conduct and values previously opposed by their Christian religion. Since then it retarded their growth, I would say, because of their blind addiction with their “rights.”

Whatever rights the government enforces is legal. Our morals are rules by which our society exhorts us to comply consistent with our religion, security and for the advancement of our economic growth. While this will not apply to all but to majority of the people....this, do not forget, is the essence of democracy...the government is for the majority and not for the few.


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You might have missed my emphasis

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Your comments:
Religious? You are talking about the separation of church and state...and now you are claiming that since America is not religious you have doubts about her being a Christian nation. Non-religious and religious person who believes fundamentally in God are still Christians and being religious per se another aspect. I, myself, is non-too-religious.

My reply:
I am not talking about the separation of church and state, I am emphasizing, rather, secularism. Separation of church and state or for that matter separation of state and religion could come about from the first principles of secularism. I do not say that America is not religious. What I am stating in the specifics you mention still applies: that moral rights are not the basis of legal rights in the sense that America cannot promulgate laws that has a Christian conscience, rather, that America keeps herself under the principles established by the founding fathers.

Your comments:
There is no sense arguing these issues if you are not for the effect of it. If the existing government can not pass laws for the betterment of the majority, do you think they will do something for a few? Is that being realistic?

My reply:
You have assumed the principle of the common good for the greatest number. This is a false political theory. It cannot apply to the case I stated, say, divorce and annullment of marriage. One cannot insist that there is no divorce in a country because majority are Christians. Tell me, plainly, since the majority of people in the US are Christians, should others comply with their moral objections or moral principles? To assume that Christianity is betterment for the majority has one principle attached to it, to accept or reject Christ. We cannot say that America is a Christian nation. A nation has principles that are separate from a church.

Your comments:
By the way, what were the “moral tones” of the Filipinos before Spaniards and Americans came?
And what are really there to change for except for the legal rights of the few? Will these change make the Filipinos more civil? Societies are not founded on ideals but rather on the nature of man....evil. Our basic instinct generates a habit followed by feelings...such is the total sum of a man. However, since we love freedom and such freedom in a society requires some limitations base on morals. Where are these morals coming from? Mostly, if not all, from Judeo-Christian beliefs. Those who can not control their instinct and old nature are less to succeed in life compared to those who can. Make these freedom absolute....secular....and you will have chaos.

My reply:
The specifics I am talking about I have stated. The principle is secularism. The past has no bearing for the present. A person has a right to celebrate his tradition, that is the point. The Muslims are allowed to proceed according to their law. What about those who are not Muslims and those who are not Christians? Will you propose that they be governed by Christian laws? The points you raised are Christian, that is clear and secularism accommodates principles that are accepted by all. The point I am stating is that you cannot get a big share of laws because the majority accept those laws to the detriment or exclusion of the minority.

Our laws allow religious laws of the Muslims and Christians but this is not the way the state should undertake to include religious statutes simply because people are religious and along particular religious lines because there are people who do not belong to any religious lines.

Take the case of the Mormons. Their religion allows polygamy. How will the state handle this? Are you proposing what has been before, a convert is free to exercise his religious rights because he is under the accepted moral laws of his religion?

What you propose is political religious lobbying of our state functions to permit and allow religious functions with a religious basis for the exercise of permission of the state. You see, this approach in our laws and in our government has no basis. It is subject to the whims and caprices of our leaders. It is not grounded on the principle of separation of church and state.

I am proposing secularism that will provide a legal framework to remove religious lobbying.

Your comments:
France did not helped America for the reasons you stated. They knew they will be defeated by the British superior forces....they preferred a safe passage out knowing that eventually the Americans will win. One should not forget that France was a religious state prior to being a secularist. I cited this nation to show vividly the effects of secularism by their neurotic rapid changes in moral conduct and values previously opposed by their Christian religion. Since then it retarded their growth, I would say, because of their blind addiction with their “rights.”

My reply:
You assume that your brand of Christianity will bring progress and betterment, no? In any case because a person suffers for his philosophy or religion then you say that he is wrong?

Your comments:
Whatever rights the government enforces is legal. Our morals are rules by which our society exhorts us to comply consistent with our religion, security and for the advancement of our economic growth. While this will not apply to all but to majority of the people....this, do not forget, is the essence of democracy...the government is for the majority and not for the few.

My reply:
You are stating this because you are a Christian, no? You mean your personal brand of belief? You assume at the outset a setting that is the America of today. But America was not founded on religious principles but secular principles and the effect you assert happened for both America and France. Therefore, secularism is not false, rather, it is the true democracy, and it is neutral to any form of religion. It does not favor the majority or the few. It stands as a unique principle in political theory.



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No...your ideas are oblique to what really is....

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Secular, socialist and communist countries in Europe, particularly
the eastern side are clawing back from the abyss where their leaders abandoned religious faith. They are finding out now that they can not bring up a generation of law abiding citizens w/out the self-restraint that only religious faith can bring. They have come to realized that freedom without religious belief will lead inevitably to anarchy and lawlessness. Which brings me to mind
what the first and second presidents of United State said:

George Washington: "Reason and experience forbid us to expect public
morality in the absence of religious principle."

John Adams: "We have not a government strong enough to restrain the
unbriddled passion of men. THIS CONSTITUTION WAS MADE ONLY FOR A MORAL
AND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE. IT IS WHOLLY INADEQUATE FOR ANY OTHER.

So, there you are...Adams contradicted your claim.

For the sake of arguement: You know as well as I do, theorems/theories
are to be proven. If you can prove a theory mathematically and applying this proven theory to inaminate objects the result would be perfect. But an ideoloque planted in the minds of human is different.

Yes, the idea of secularism can be made to perfection but when applied the results are heartbreaking!


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What religion do you want? You have not answered from your argument from history

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Since you raised the issue of history of Russia, you made a generalization of the issue of communism, but you have not answered my question.

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what questions...?

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What religion....?

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All the while I was talking about Christianity versus secularism.
I never did mentioned my preference for any christian religion!

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What is secularism?

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

One should understand the depths of its philosophy and proposition rather than raise the issue of religion.

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Who told you...

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John Adams?


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The John Adams in every member of the human race

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

All of us to a degree are secularists. Is capital punishment Biblical? Or is it secular? Or is it theodicean?

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John Adam's strong beliefs is what you see now....

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in America....not a secularist for now.

Anyway, what's your opinion or belief on this
issues you want to discuss? Tell me.


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The issue I raised remains unanswered

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Even in the specifics I proposed to you. You might feel that your stance is threatened. This is the reason for a secular state.

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Why not?

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You want the Philippines to embrace secularism. hence,
I have shown to you two countries...one, that is literally
secularized and one you claimed to have secular constitution
but in practice is a christian country.

I have shown to you one country that practice what you have
in mind. They mix...with a bitter taste.

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Pathetic Opposition

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Team Unity hits Erap campaign for GO


By EDITH REGALADO and MIKE FRIALDE
The Philippine Star

Administration stalwarts said it was in bad taste for former President Joseph Estrada to raise the hands of Genuine Opposition (GO) bets during his brief furlough last Saturday to visit his ailing mother at the family residence in San Juan.

"The whole thing was scandalous. Where could you find a prisoner who is allowed to get out of prison on a break and allowed to raise the hands of and campaign for his candidates?" Surigao del Sur Rep. Prospero Pichay, who is running for a Senate seat under the administration’s Team Unity ticket, said in Davao City Monday.

Pichay said he is really bothered "for the nation" by Estrada’s actions, but "I am not bothered at all as it pertains to my candidacy. I am unfazed by it. What bothers me is the very act itself, which becomes very scandalous for us as a nation, as a people."

Pichay said since Estrada was allowed to get out of detention from his Tanay, Rizal resthouse to campaign for his candidates, "we should also allow all prisoners in the country, be it in provincial or municipal jails… to go out and campaign."

Team Unity campaign manager Reli German said the administration candidates remain unfazed by Estrada’s endorsement of opposition candidates who trooped to his family’s residence in San Juan last Saturday.

"It is normal for a political leader to raise the hands of his candidates. But it does not affect us at all. We will go on focused on our campaign," he said.

Other administration stalwarts said photos of Estrada raising the hands of opposition senatorial candidates are solid evidence that the fragmented opposition has no track record to speak of and is only banking on the former president’s popularity.

Leyte Rep. Eduardo Veloso said it was "pathetic" of GO members to seek the endorsement of Estrada, who was ousted on charges of large-scale corruption, amounting to about P4.1 billion in ill-gotten wealth.

"This indicates that they cannot rely on their own track records. But they should stop hallucinating because (Estrada’s) endorsement does not guarantee them victory. They will just lose all the more," he said.

Isabela Rep. Edwin Uy said the front-page photos only indicated the opposition’s desire for Estrada to return to power, and that he is the one calling the shots and financing their campaign.

"The opposition candidates showed that they are (Estrada’s) satellites and under his manipulation. Getting his endorsement was also an admission of their slim chance in the polls. For them, (Estrada) is their only hope to boost their bid," he said.

In a joint statement, Veloso and Uy said the photos "clearly showed that Estrada remains the opposition candidates’ puppet master, who is just using their team as a tool to get out of his legal difficulties."

If he can have his way, Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez will not allow ousted President Joseph Estrada to leave his resthouse in Tanay, Rizal to campaign for the candidates of the Genuine Opposition.

"I have an objection to that but that would be up to the Sandiganbayan. He is a very privileged prisoner already," Gonzalez said, adding that even a video footage of him campaigning should not be allowed.

Lawyers of Estrada have asked the Sandiganbayan to allow his transfer to his mansion on Polk St. in Greenhills, San Juan to enable him to campaign more effectively for opposition candidates for the May 14 polls.

"Shall we do that to every prisoner who will be a candidate? Suppose Jalosjos would also want to campaign? Supposing Misuari would also want to campaign? Shall we give the same degree of treatment?" Gonzalez asked. He was referring to convicted rapist and former congressman Romeo Jalosjos and detained Moro leader Nur Misuari.

GO spokesman lawyer Adel Tamano urged the anti-graft court to grant the petition filed by Estrada’s lawyers "at least for the election season in the spirit of fair play."

Gonzalez said Estrada might find it difficult to get out of his resthouse and campaign for GO as he has to deal with both the Supreme Court and the Sandiganbayan.

According to Gonzalez, the Supreme Court has made it clear that those facing capital offenses, such as plunder, must be detained while judicial proceedings are ongoing.

Gonzalez also assailed Estrada’s camp for using the issue of national unity to justify the proposed house arrest for Estrada.

"National unity has been used by so many people for their own self interests. When the government has been offering national unity and cooperation, they spurned the President," he said.

"They have a very good campaign slogan. Go. What does that mean? Go? Go away?" he said.

Gonzalez said the government’s strong stand on keeping Estrada in Tanay was not based on concerns that he is a "flight risk" but on "equal protection of the law."

"I don’t think he is a flight risk really. His interests are here," he said.

Gonzalez also downplayed Estrada’s influence in the opposition camp.

"The opposition will always try to paint him in exaggerated proportions. So they will have an issue so that if he is not allowed, they will say he is being feared. But there is a principle here involved," he said.

New kind of rally

The Team Unity ticket is also testing voters’ response to political rallies without intermission numbers by movie stars and singers to entertain the crowd.

"So far, so good," German told The STAR, noting that all 12 administration senatorial candidates are of "star" quality, which enables them to carry the rallies even without the song-and-dance show from entertainers.

However, he admitted that the acceptance of this new form of political rally will be determined by how it translates into votes.

The complete Team Unity slate arrived in Davao City Sunday for the second leg of their provincial sorties after their grand proclamation rally last Feb. 17 in Cebu City.

Davao City Archbishop Fernando Capalla led the concelebrated Mass for the Team Unity bets early Sunday evening at the San Pedro Cathedral before walking to the Rizal Park for the rally.

German said he is satisfied with how the Davao rally turned out. At least four blocks in the center of downtown Davao City were closed off for the rally as crowds spilled over to nearby streets.

Instead of intermission numbers, the administration bets each had a video shown on a giant screen beside the stage before they started their five-minute speech.

German said this system would allow voters to see more substance in the rally since the "candidates and their platform take center stage."

He expressed confidence that this emerging form of rally could be more acceptable to Filipino voters.

German said he finds no problem in blending Team Unity’s 12 senatorial bets during rallies since each candidate has his own strengths and weakness.

"We will build on their strengths when we go along the campaign trail," German said.

During Sunday evening’s rally in Davao City, Pichay emerged as the most comic among the candidates, exceeding even the stage presence of the actors in the slate, Cesar Montano and Tito Sotto.

Pichay gamely rattled off his speech and succeeded in leaving the crowd in stitches as he called on each of the candidates during his own time.

There were even suggestions immediately after the rally that Pichay would be the official master of ceremonies whenever Team Unity has a rally.

"I am ready to take that job if they want me to do that. I am willing to help my other teammates. I want the entire Team Unity ticket to win," Pichay said.

Of the 12 Team Unity bets, Senators Edgardo Angara, Joker Arroyo and Ralph Recto and former senators Sotto and Tessie Aquino-Oreta have experience in nationwide campaigns while Pichay, former presidential chief of staff Mike Defensor, Bukidnon Rep. Juan Miguel Zubiri, Ilocos Norte Gov. Luis "Chavit" Singson and Zambales Gov. Vicente Magsaysay have had their share of campaigning for local posts.

Montano and Sulu Sultan Jamal Kiram are Team Unity’s two political neophytes.

Pichay said Team Unity members will help each other strengthen their stage presence during rallies.

The 12 Team Unity candidates also begged German to increase their allotted time to speak onstage during party rallies from only two minutes when they were proclaimed in Cebu City last Saturday to at least five minutes each.

Battle of endorsers?

For Team Unity, President Arroyo’s strong and well-entrenched network of support among local leaders will be the advantage over the GO candidates who sought Estrada’s endorsement.

Durano would not say whether Estrada or Mrs. Arroyo would make a better endorser. Critics said while an Estrada endorsement would be a boon for the GO candidates, it would be a bane for Team Unity if Mrs. Arroyo joins their campaign because of her lack of mass appeal.

"But whether (Estrada) can campaign for GO is already the domain of the Sandiganbayan," Durano said.

Earlier, Recto said the May elections were already beyond Estrada and Mrs. Arroyo since much should still be done for the country.

"What is important is we are focused on our programs," Durano said.

Re-electionist opposition Sen. Panfilo Lacson said it is up to the lawyers to attend to Estrada’s legal problems regarding campaigning for GO candidates.

Lacson said Estrada’s case might be tainted with politics if the GO candidates will directly ask the Sandiganbayan to allow him to campaign for them instead of the former president’s own lawyers.

"He (Mr. Estrada) will raise purely legal issues before the Sandiganbayan so he can get out and campaign," Lacson said.

For his part, Estrada’s senator-son, Jinggoy, said a decision favoring his father’s request would be the end of the administration team.

"Of course, if President Erap (Estrada’s nickname) will be allowed by the Sandiganbayan to campaign for these candidates, that will be a big boost for them," the younger Estrada said. "If that happens, the elections are over."

Estrada said they are hoping the Sandiganbayan would grant his father’s petition.

Asked whether the coming May elections remain to be a case of Estrada versus Mrs. Arroyo, Senator Estrada said it is a case of the opposition ticket "versus the corruption, versus lying, cheating stealing."

He even took a dig at Singson, saying the administration has a candidate whose initials represent the alleged "lying, cheating, stealing" of the Arroyo administration.

Singson caused the downfall of the former president as he accused him of corruption and alleged involvement in the illegal jueteng operations.

Mr. Estrada spent Sunday at the house of his mother, Doña Mary, in San Juan following the Sandiganbayan’s approval of his petition. His lawyers file one petition for each weekend he wishes to spend with his mother.

With the exception of Senate President Manuel Villar and Majority Leader Francis Pangilinan, most of GO’s senatorial candidates managed to have their respective photographs taken with Estrada endorsing their bids.

Also campaigning under a handicap is resigned Navy Lt. Antonio Trillanes IV, GO senatorial candidate, who is detained at a military camp facing rebellion charges in connection with the 2003 Oakwood mutiny.

The opposition said Estrada is not a flight risk and should be permitted to campaign in the spirit of fair play during the elections.

At Malacañang, officials refused Monday to be dragged into calls by the opposition for the administration to intervene with the Sandiganbayan for Estrada’s temporary release.

Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye said the Palace has nothing to do with the ongoing and independent judicial process involving Estrada and his plunder case.

"We leave the matter to the Court," Bunye said. "We are not taking the bait of the opposition of making the campaign a fight between the Palace and... Estrada."

Chief Presidential Legal Counsel Sergio Apostol said the opposition has been trying to make it appear that the Palace has some influence over the Sandiganbayan, particularly the case against Estrada, when it has none.

"Why should the Palace intervene? They’re the ones who filed motions. The Palace has nothing to do with his case. I wish they (opposition) would stop involving the Palace in this," Apostol told reporters.

Bunye also said Mrs. Arroyo is determined not to let politics get in the way of the economy, but to reinforce the economy with firm political stability.

He called on opposition leaders "not to hurt, but to help grow, the economy" by not resorting to dirty politics and negative campaigning. With Delon Porcalla, Aurea Calica and Paolo Romero


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Why does Gloria want Anti-Terror Bill so bad?

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Because it converts political enemies to terrorists who are then hunted and killed by law enforcement and military. Thus, what used to be called Human Rights violations can now be justifiably called Campaign against Terrorism.

And the beauty of it, anyone can be suspected of terrorism by the government just as long as the new law allows them to do so.

Never trust a lying and cheating president, she will do more harm than good in the long run.

Nap


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GMA's eager to get rid of her opponents are desperate. There are many faces of elimination enemies and she could use all with anti-terrorist law.

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Gloria wants the U.S. to accept cheating Nurses???

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Just because she got away with massive cheating in the last presidential election through the help of the military and Comelec does not mean she can now influence the United States to also swallow what she has shoved into the throats of Filipino voters.

By refusing to accept the 17,000 graduate nurses who cheated in the licensing exam back in 2006, the United States is leading the rest of the world in telling the Philippine authorities to do something about the widespread corruption in all brances of government specially those responsible for the certification of laborers who look forward to be licensed locally and hired abroad.

Ever since the scandal was discovered two years ago, Gloria has done absolutely nothing to legitimize those who took the exam but were found guilty of cheating. And now two years down the road, she has chosen to appeal the hiring ban of U.S. authorities without even considering how the hospitals and medical professionals would treat those who were tainted with fraudulent results.

This presidential action to subvert the integrity and credibity of the nursing profession through political arm twisting is a big black mark on the honesty of Philippine authorities and no one should allow such a practice to continue just because Gloria Macapagal herself became a president through fraudulent means.

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You are the one who cheats, Napanice

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

All your premises are false and then you make it appear that they are true.

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PREJUDICE

by Rahmir Ashtron (no login)

Prejudice

(an excerpt from Tim's Inspiration list: [email protected])

Nearly every day, we encounter discrimination in some form or another
and often times it leaves a sour taste in our mouths. The following
story shows us the side of diversity that we are all working for.
How refreshing to know that there are companies and individuals who
face discrimination head on, if only one small step at a time. Enjoy
reading the positive side of diversity...I applaud British Airways
for their action in this situation!

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On a British Airways flight from Johannesburg, a middle-aged,
well-off white South African Lady found herself sitting next to a
black man. She called the cabin crew attendant over to complain about
her seating.

"What seems to be the problem Madam?" asked the attendant.

"Can't you see?" she said "You've sat me next to a kaffir. I can't
possibly sit next to this disgusting human. Find me another seat!"

"Please calm down Madam," said the flight attendant. "The flight is
very full today, but I'll tell you what I'll do - I'll go and check
to see if we have any seats available in club or first class."

The woman cocked a snooty look at the outraged black man beside her
(not to mention many of the surrounding passengers). A few minutes
later the flight attendant returned with the good news, which she
delivered to the lady, who could not help but look at the people
around her with a smug and self satisfied grin. Madam,
unfortunately, as I suspected, economy is full. I've spoken to the
cabin services director, and club is also full. However, we do have
one seat in first class."

Before the lady had a chance to answer, the flight attendant
continued..."It is most extraordinary to make this kind of upgrade,
however, and I have had to get special permission from the captain.
But, given the circumstances, the captain felt that it was outrageous
that someone be forced to sit next to such an obnoxious person."

With which, she turned to the black man sitting next to the woman,
and said: "So if you'd like to get your things, sir, I have your seat
ready for you..."

At which point, apparently the surrounding passengers stood and gave
a standing ovation while the black guy walked up to the front of the
plane.

People may forget what you said ...
People may forget what you did ...
But people will never forget how you made them feel

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It is true that mind control exists Illinois since 2002 and prior thereto under MKULTRA. The senator Durbin says it is domestic law enforcement. The government FBI denies they do anything illegal. National Security Advisor Robert Keenan lives in Tinley Park. Gary Plundo and his sons, Jonathon and Nick live in Tinley Park. Patrick Harrington and his son live in Tinley Park. Contrail from the Air force are frequent in Tinley Park from Johnny Jumper. Area Commander Pribble of Homeland Security says that a device pointed at a target with a digitized voice of the target is called black-op. The intellingence agencies do it. MIND-CONTROL EXPERIMENTATION
by Julianne McKinney
writes their desires are programed, their tastes manipulated, their values set with the Black slave was chained to a living maste. New black op slave has become a digit, a that is expended by an invisible master without heart, mind or soul."In From Freedom to Slavery, by Gerry Spence in 1974, Georgetown University's Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) hosted discussions on the plight of dissenters in the Soviet Union reported in "Understanding the Solzhenitzyn Affair: Dissent and its Control in the USSR," (CSIS, 1974).

KGB's success depended on the extensive use of informant networks, agent provocateurs; drugs and psychiatrists for manipulation and control. Shadowing, bugging, slandering, blacklisting and other related tactics were also cited as serving KGB purpose. The Church and Rockefeller Committee Hearings purportedly ended to these practices. CIA's and FBI's Operations MKULTRA, MHCHAOS and COINTELPRO. Reactivation of surveillance/harassment/mind-control operations suggest KGB "mentality," which is underlying pragmatic contempt for civil liberties, and the driving force behind MKULTRA, MHCHAOS and COINTELPRO. As a "mentality," the KGB appears to be accomplishing more in "burying this country" from within. Directed-energy technologies in the overt and covert patterns of harassment identified as a result of our investigations, to date. Tto limit the success of such operations in the future, accord them widespread publicity.

Systematic harassment and experimentation by the U.S. Government, involving technologies require investigation. June-July 1992 edition of UNCLASSIFIED (Vol.IV, No.3), published by The Association of National Security Alumni, Washington, D.C.]

We are now in touch with approximately a dozen individuals throughout the United States who appear to be targets of harassment and mind-control experimentation involving directed-energy technologies. [By mid-November 1992, the number had increased to 25.] 1991 by the U.S. Global Strategy Council -- a Washington-based organization, under the chairmanship of Ray Cline, former Deputy Director of the CIA, describes the foreign and domestic uses foreseen for laser weapons, isotropic radiators, infrasound, non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse generators, and high-powered microwave emitters.. The energy emitted from all of these weapons can kill people when appropriately amplified. At lower levels of amplified, they can cause extreme forms of physical discomfort and debilitation. Mr. Vernon Shisler, manager of the exhibit and the Army's delegate to NATO acknowledged not only that directed-energy weapons are in the Dod's arsenal. U.S. Global Strategy Council's complete project proposal on this subject: (Title: Nonlethality: Development of a National Policy and Employing Nonlethal Means in a New Strategic Era, prepared by Janet Morris). Council's address:
1800 K Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006, (202) 466-6029.


BIOEFFECTS OF MICROWAVE RADIATION is used by the CIA, DoD, the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Department of Energy (DoE).

The Walter Reed Army Institute of Research (WRAIR) participated in since Project Pandora. In The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life, by Robert O. Becker, M.D., and Gary Selden (Wm. Morrow & Company, NY, 1985): "Such a device has obvious applications in covert operations designed to drive a target crazy with 'voices' or deliver undetected instructions to a programmed assassin."

: Lin, James C., Electromagnetic Interaction With Biological Systems (Plenum Press, NY, 1989). Professor Lin, Department of Bioengineering, University of Illinois, Chicago, has books. WRAIR has paper on "MW [microwave] Weapons" at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, CA, in mid-1989.

Executive Order 12333 specifies that government contractors do not need to know that their services support U.S. Intelligence objectives.

In its report of July 8, 1992, the Senate Subcommittee on Oversight of Government Management addresses the problem of tracking funds granted to government-contracted research and development (R&D) centers. The report notes that the problem is compounded by DoD's creating hard-to-monitor "shell" contractors as disbursement centers for funding programs.





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4 million spare ballots will make winners of Dirty Dandidates

by Napanice (no login)

Note: Lying and Cheating has now become a permanent part of Philippine Elections.

Nap

Comelec justifies printing of 4 million ‘spare’ ballots

By Marie A. Surbano

02/19/2007

The Commission on Elections (Comelec) is reportedly printing four million “excess” or reserve ballots for the May 2007 mid-term polls.

Comelec Chairman Benjamin Abalos Sr. over the weekend argued that the four million ballots are “spare” in cases when voters need extra copies should they committ errors in filling up ballots or when some ballots get lost or damaged during transportation.

Abalos earlier told reporters that the Comelec is printing 49 million ballots when there are only 45 million registered voters estimated this year based on the country’s annual population growth rate of 2.36 percent.

Jose Pio Joson, Comelec executive director, admitted that the poll body is only expecting a stock of 45 million registered voters qualified to vote this coming May.

Joson confirmed that a realistic increase could only be within three to five percent for a national election, should there be growth in the voting population.

He expressed surprised at Abalos’ announcement regarding the printing of the additional ballots.

Joson said traditionally, the Comelec would print the exact number of ballots matching the total number of registered voters.

“In the past elections, the ratio has always been 1:1 because not all registered voters would vote anyway,” he noted.

“We are also avoiding the possibility of some of these ballots getting into the wrong hands,” Joson said during an interview.

According to Ramon Casiple, executive director of the Institute for Political and Electoral Reform (IPER), most election fraud or dagdag-bawas (vote-padding/

vote-shaving) happens through the use of official ballots printed by the Comelec.

“As to how these ballots get into the wrong hands, I don’t know,” Casiple said.

Meanwhile, a former official from Sharif Kabunsuan, a new province in the ARMM (Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao) has reported to Joson’s office that the number of registered voters in this area grew more than double, or from 10,000 to 29,000 residents who voted in the Dec. 2006 plebiscite.

“That (increase in the number of registered voters) is their concern now because, according to them, what you have here is a statistical improbability because you can’t expect that growth in such a short period,” Joson said.

He announced that the Comelec is set to come up with the complete list of registered voters.

The registration ended on Dec. 31, 2006.

Last week, suspicions were high that the Comelec recommending to discontinue the automated election system (AES) in six cities is only an excuse by the Arroyo administration to enable it to supposedly allow cheating in the May polls.

Sen. Sergio Osmeña III told reporters cited the recommendation made by the Comelec’s advisory council and the reported promotion of Comelec officials earlier implicated in the alleged cheating in the 2004 elections.

Osmena said it a repeat of the “Hello Garci” scandal is possible. (See related story)

According to him, these Comelec officials were promoted from provincial to regional director allegedly as a reward for a “job well done.”

Osmeña said the poll body does not really want to implement a full automation system “because it’s easier to manipulate the manual counting.”

While the poll automation bill was still being debated both in the committee level and on the floor, he added, lawmakers were already considering borrowing desktop computers from government offices to effect the automation system.

“My biggest objection with this bill is, you cannot have automation if it is the current Comelec that will conduct it. So I prefer the manual system (for the May 2007 elections),” Osmeña said.


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Thaniks for Volunteering to be Killed.

by Napanice (no login)

I just read this morning that copters are dropping like flies in both Iraq and Afghanistan, leading the U.S. military to suspect that insurgents and terrorists have acquired more sophisticated weapons capable of shooting these high tech aircrafts down.

It's just like a computer virus, when someone comes up with a more destructive strain sooner or later someone also figures out how to disable it. It tells us that all manmade products have a hidden flaw or weakness.

Thanks to those dead troops who volunteered and died, while their families and friends mourn the rest of the world will honor them for their ultimate sacrifices in the name of world peace.

Nap


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Migrants Manifesto for Issue-based Electoral Contest

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Kababayan,
As part of the 10 million Filipinos living and working abroad - contributing an average amount of US$ 12 billion dollars annually to our families which is equivalent to almost 15% of our GDP - we must exercise our sense of duty, responsibility, and the right to say in the decision-making process for the benefit of our country.

Looking at the magnitude of the problem facing our nation we may have reached the saturation point of indifference and apathy so widespread that it has become the norm instead of an aberration. The never ending travesty and scandals in the past electoral exercise that may repeat itself has a tendency to numb us to inaction leading others in considering boycott as an option.

However, we can change that by doing something small but nevertheless vital to change the way we conduct our electoral contest. Please spare five (5) minutes of your time and log on at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/OFWMan/ read and be counted as signatories of the Migrants Manifesto for Issue-based Electoral Contest.

If you believe it is better to light one candle at a time than curse the darkness please endorse and send this manifesto to all the people you know. Kung hindi tayo kikilos sino pa, kung hindi ngayon kailan pa?

Looking forward to your much needed support,

Concerned Overseas Filipinos Worldwide

"No man made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he thought he
could do so little." (Edmund Burke)

Migrants Manifesto for Issue-based Electoral Contest

We, the Overseas Filipinos worldwide, urge each and everyone in the coming May electoral contest to implore all political parties, emerging parties and their respective candidates to bring forth a platform based campaign so that the electorate can choose credible persons who are worthy to lead the nation.

In order to advance democratic governance in the Philippines, there should be a structure or process of reform that promotes increasingly participatory and accountable governance. In this context, the will and voice of the people should be respected at all times and the sanctity of the ballots must be safeguarded.

The root causes of human insecurity in the Philippines – and thus, threats to overall peace and development – include conditions of inequity, with an elite few controlling power and economic resources; abject poverty; poor governance; injustice, abuse of authority and violations of human rights; and marginalization of minority groups. And yet, squandering of billions of pesos from legitimate and illegitimate sources had been a common scenario in a personality and patronage-based electoral contest. The proposed platform based campaign is envisioned to change this bad practice. In order to sustain poverty reduction, there must be equitable growth and the poor people who are in the majority must have political power – i.e. with a real voice and space. The powerful and/or the elites—whether political leaders, corporations or other influential actors—must be held accountable for their actions; more specifically, they must be held accountable for their success or failure in their individual or party platform of promised good governance.

We are calling for robust, transparent, internally democratic and accountable political parties in order to develop a stronger democratic culture in the Philippines. Otherwise, the right to choose will remain to be pre-empted by the elites that own the political process, including the political organizations.

We challenge those who want to become legitimate servants and leaders to articulate a concrete and doable developmental plan aimed at the Filipino migrant workers around the world. We pledge to support legitimate servants of the people running for any public position that aggressively promote the interest of our sector on the following issues:

1) Institute meaningful comprehensive electoral reforms starting with the removal of the residency requirement inserted at the last minute by congress in the Absentee Voting Law. Introduce laws that will create a transparent campaign expenditures and verifiable financial source imposing a limit to individual, group, and corporate campaign donations.

2) Creation of an office with a Cabinet status such as the Ministry of Migration and Development that will truly work for the interests of migrant workers. This office must be led by a Minister whose primary task is to manage orderly labor migration, harness the development potentials of migration and development (co-development). Set up an advisory board composed of qualified, dedicated, and credible Overseas Filipinos to advice the Ministry. In addition, the Ministry must:

* See to it that the rights of migrants are protected
* Facilitate return migration and in such a way that overseas Filipinos who wish to return voluntarily remain active in the labor force or has the necessary means to secure his or her financial future including their families
* Monitor the performance of government agencies in charge of migrant workers (OWWA, etc.) and particularly to review structures relating to the migrant workers trust fund to enable migrants to have an effective voice and meaningful representation in policy formation, and to ensure proper administration and management of their fund.
* Explore ways to address present gaps and barriers that hinder the effective mobilization, distribution, monitoring, and accountability procedures, in order to achieve economies of scale in current Filipino Diaspora giving, including possibilities of replicating the Mexican experience (3 x 1 program) [i]
* Facilitate creation of an enabling environment (investments, provide financial services including housing, insurance, education, savings, etc. for migrants) that fully harness the development potentials of Philippine migration
* Encourage multi-stakeholder approach to development and promote public-private partnerships [ii]
* Support and stimulate the transnational role of Overseas Filipinos so that they can contribute to the country’s development; while the government on the other hand, should establish a systematic way of tapping these skills (not only waiting for their remittances) [iii]
* Strengthen the capacity of Philippine consulates and representative offices worldwide to better serve the needs of migrant Filipino workers

3) Promote good governance, honesty, and accountability of our government servants from the highest to lowest position. The virtue of servant-leadership must be practiced.

4) Promote the welfare of our women, elderly and children.

5) Access to a better education for all. [iv]

We urge government groups, media facilities, civil society, church organizations, and other responsible citizens, to organize and support pre-election public forums and other similar initiatives requiring candidates or party representatives to debate and publicly present their platforms on where they stand regarding these migrant issues. This will enable the citizenry, including eligible overseas voters and members of their families in the Philippines, in making informed decisions and to help ensure that only those candidates with clear and sincere intentions of promoting the welfare of the migrant sector, their families, and millions of poor people in our country are elected to public office.



[i] The Mexican Hometown Association (HTA) experience through the Federación de Clubes de Zacatecanos del Sur de California is a good example. The Mexican government announced in July 2001 a "godfather program" that encourages Mexican-Americans to invest in Mexico. The state of Zacatecas depends heavily on remittances, but under the current 3-for-1 program, each dollar contributed by a migrant or HTA in the US for community development projects, is matched with an additional $3, one each from the federal, state and local governments. Under a new program, the Zacatecas state government and the InterAmerican Development Bank (IADB) provide infrastructure support and financing for returned migrants who invest their remittances in job-creating enterprises. The federación is composed of different clubs. Each club focuses on their respective hometown. The Federación speaks on behalf of the clubs in one voice and this becomes their strength. The federation becomes a mediator and negotiator on behalf of the member clubs. Organizations like the World Bank, IADB, UNDP, the Rockefeller Foundation and even the private sector relate with the Federación.

[ii] Private sector leadership in the Philippines and abroad should be developed in order to promote the Philippines as an investment destination.

[iii] An effective network should be developed to address this. On the strategy to collaborate with Diasporas: promoting knowledge networks and providing market access, there is the Philippine Brain Gain Network (BGN) among other networks. For example, further collaboration can be made between the BGN and the organizers of the Global Filipino Networking Conventions in order to come up with a more result-oriented agenda, more specifically to define a national policy for brain gain in order to harness overseas human resources more systematically.

[iv] Philippine education policy needs to be focused on technical skills and soft skills like scientific problem-solving, logical abstraction and teamwork. Greater collaboration must be undertaken by the DepEd and local authorities on technical academic reforms, particularly those pertaining to the curriculum and policy on language instruction.

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Authors Unknown, Organization Unknown, Official Status Unknown.

by Napanice (no login)

Who are the people behind this manifesto and what is their organization in terms of representing the ofws? The list of signatories, what additional information are being collected to ensure those names are real individuals and not just fictitious characters in the movies?

The intent may be noble but the implementation leaves a lot to be desired.

Nap


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Nap
"Who are the people behind this manifesto and what is their organization in terms of representing the ofws? The list of signatories, what additional information are being collected to ensure those names are real individuals and not just fictitious characters in the movies?"

ofw
Valid concerns and I don't blame you. Let me assure you that the intent is not to "represent" or "lead" the OFWs. There are existing organization hundreds if not thousands whose aim are almost similar to the principles stated in the manifesto.

It is the message and not the messenger that is important, what counts is if you agree with what the manifesto stated and embrace it as your own in clamoring for meaningfull change..

Nap
"The intent may be noble but the implementation leaves a lot to be desired."

ofw
I am glad you see the intent as noble, and I agree the implementation is a challenge and it will take the whole nation with strong political will for comprehensive reform to happen. Your help and others in this vibrant forum will definitely help in this initiative acting as one in solidarity with others who have the same aspirations and dreams of a better nation will send a strong message to the politicians.

You can e-mail us at [email protected] and let us know what suggestions you have on how we can have an effective campaign in our voter awareness campaign.

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My ideas are always available for open discussion.

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Why not do it in this forum so everyone can participate? Your concern for the election affects the whole country and so we should present our ideas out in the open, don't you agree?

For one thing, the ofws need to become a powerful influence in the affairs of our government specially when it comes to election of new leaders because the current crop of politicians have no interest in the participation of ofw voters in national affairs.

Therefore, the first step should be representation and for that to happen you need names, faces and official titles. Otherwise there is no point of contact and leadership that will make things happen.

Nap


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Re: My ideas are always available for open discussion.

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My response in asterisk*

Why not do it in this forum so everyone can participate? Your concern for the election affects the whole country and so we should present our ideas out in the open, don't you agree?

* Yes, that is why we need the help of people like you to spread the manifesto to everyone since this is a national issue that affects every Filipino. The manifesto is the first salvo in raising voter awareness and to be effective people who agree with what was stated should at least spread it around to hopefully start a ripple towards popular clamor for meaningful change.

For one thing, the ofws need to become a powerful influence in the affairs of our government specially when it comes to election of new leaders because the current crop of politicians have no interest in the participation of ofw voters in national affairs.

* I am glad you recognize the need for ofws to assert their influence because we are a potent force that contributes 15% of the GDP of the nation. For one the OFWs are not influenced by politics of patronage bad sadly most are apathetic and have given up or indulge in politics of personality for lack of credible and doable platform that is presented to our sector. If ever there is a semblance of platform these are sadly in the form of empty political promises to be broken.


Therefore, the first step should be representation and for that to happen you need names, faces and official titles. Otherwise there is no point of contact and leadership that will make things happen.

* You may be correct but oftentimes the drawback to having a set of leaders at the onset of building up a support base has a tendency to bloat the ego of the initiators. True leaders will rise above in this trying times and since our initiative is to raise voters awareness we envision active participation of those who agree with us to set aside our differences and work toward solidarity in influencing the conduct of the electoral contest. The reason I provided the e-mail at [email protected] is so people who are interested are able to communicate with us on how they can help us spread the message.


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We're going in circles here......

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An organization that sounds big with grandeur motives should not resort to secrecy
when it seeks supports from various spectrum of Filipinos abroad. I for one would like to know who are behind this movement before deciding to be a signatory.

A worthy cause should not be shrouded in secrecy.

CoeL

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The authors are there at the bottom http://www.PetitionOnline.com/OFWMan/

The intention is for people to embrace it as their own. My apologies if you feel it was shrouded in secrecy.

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It is a good cause to fight..

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But it's too bad, the voice of the OFW'S are so small that they could not even make a dent in that very corrupt government.The government only recognize you because of your dollar remittances. I know of the two signatories. I even support them when they launched the petition worldwide about participating in Philippine election. The bill was passed. The OFWS went to vote but they were cheated.......and I am disgusted with the cheating and lying of the government especially its leaders. They are so currupt to the core....

But I wish you good luck.

MY

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Yeah, good luck to your cause.

by Napanice (no login)

In a democracy, the people should not let the government control or dictate to them. In a democracy, the people must be in control at all times. As an example, open discussions in matters of national interest is what makes the United States one of the greatest democracies on earth.

Look at how the Americans are now telling their government how they feel about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, they demonstrated that very clearly during the last election.

I do hope the ofws would open their eyes one day and tell the Philippine government that they are a political force to reckon with.

Nap


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An Idiot Nation

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An Idiot Nation
By Antonio C. Abaya

Written Feb. 11, 2007
For the Standard Today,
February 13, 2007 issue

A European journalist, who probably personified the bewilderment of other foreigners at this country’s politics, emailed me last week: “How is it possible that Nur Misuari and Gregorio Honasan are allowed to run for governor and senator, respectively, even though they are accused of (serious) crimes? I would like to quote you on this.”

My reply: “This is the Philippines where American-style liberalism has created an Idiot Nation that can no longer tell the difference between right and wrong.

“You were not here when a congressman (Romeo Jalosjos of Zamboanga del Norte) was accused, tried and convicted of statutory rape of an 11-year old girl, yet was allowed to run for re-election from his jail cell, and actually won!”

The European’s concern can be expanded to include Navy Lt. s/g Antonio Trillanes, who has also filed his candidacy to run for the Senate despite the fact that he is also accused of a serious crime: mutiny, for his leadership of the 2003 Oakwood Mutiny. Although he said he was going to run as an independent, like his mentor and kuya Gringo Honasan, he is now part of the senatorial slate of the United Opposition, while Honasan is not.

We have here a microcosm of the idiocy of the Philippine electoral system. Strictly speaking, Misuari, Honasan and Trillanes cannot be considered Idiot Candidates since they are all intelligent and articulate on what they want to achieve – unlike the totally clueless Pacquiao and the deliberately uncommunicative FPJ, who depends/depended entirely on their popularity with the squealing masa.

But the fact that the Comelec accepted and approved their candidacies at all reveals a yawning moral gap that the Idiot Comelec is not capable of bridging. Aside from not knowing how to count properly, the Idiot Comelec saw and sees no moral contradiction in allowing these unrepentant putschists to run for high public offices in a state that all three of them had tried to violently overthrow. In the case of Honasan, not once, but several times.

I have not read the charter of the Comelec, but I am sure there are paragraphs in it that empower the Comelec to disapprove the candidacies of individuals whom it judges to be morally unfit to assume the positions that they aspire for.

Yet it allowed the convicted rapist Jalosjos to run for re-election from his jail cell. And it allows three unrepentant putschists to run for even higher offices, even though there are court cases pending against them for the very serious crimes – much more serious than statutory rape - of rebellion, mutiny and coups d’etat. Onli in da istupid Pilipins.

By the twisted liberalism of the Idiot Comelec, there would be no legal or constitutional impediment, only his basic unwinnability, that can stop Jose Maria Stalin, founder of the Communist Party of the Philippines – or Satur Ocampo, the most senior of the comrades - from filing his candidacy for president in 2010, despite his efforts since 1966 to overthrow the Philippine state.

This travesty of the democratic privilege of suffrage would not be allowed and would not have been allowed in South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand or Suharto’s Indonesia, even though – or is it because - their immersion in, or exposure to, American-style liberal democratic traditions has been much shorter than ours.

Not only do we have an Idiot Comelec that does not know how to count votes properly and is not capable of making sound moral judgments on the moral fitness of indicted and convicted individuals to run for high public offices, we also have masses of Idiot Voters who also can no longer tell right from wrong.

The electoral victory of convicted rapist Jalosjos is eloquent proof of this. The fact that several million Idiot Voters will vote for Misuari, Honasan and Trillanes, even if none of the three is likely to win, adds to the growing perception that we are truly an Idiot Nation on whom the blessings of American-style liberal democracy have been spectacularly wasted.

There should be moral safeguards to exclude convicted and indicted felons from our electoral system, no matter how popular they may be with the squealing masa. I will go into possible details in a future column.

I had at first favored the abolition of the Senate through a constitutional convention. But after watching the shameless maneuver of Speaker Jose de Venecia and his trapos in the House to exclude the Senate from their lutong-makaw constitutent assembly, I am now in favor of retaining the Senate, but the members should be elected on a regional, not national, basis. Two for each of the 17 regions plus the National Capital Region and the ARMM.

This makes certain that all regions are adequately represented in the Senate. I recall an instance several years ago when the Senate had three senators from Bicol (Tatad, Arroyo and Honasan) but zero from Muslim Mindanao.

The senatorial line-ups of both the administration and opposition coalitions for the 2007 elections reflect the political class’ dismissive attitude towards the Muslims. The administration line-up does not have a Muslim. The opposition has a blank space reserved for a Muslim, but he/she is likely to be a relative nobody who will not win enough national votes to earn a senatorial seat.

However, if senatorial elections were by region, the Muslims would be represented by at least two or three senators, from the regions where they predominate. The situation in the Middle East is coming to a boil in the next few weeks and months as the US and Israel prepare to attack Iran . That means Islamic militancy worldwide will likely explode to new, even bloodier levels of violence than we have ever seen. The systemic absence of Muslim representation in the Senate shows the lack of sensitivity and foresight on the part of the framers of the present Constitution

Regional election of senators would also help correct the infirmity that former senator Kit Tatad pointed out so eloquently: the degeneration of the Senate into a Family Club. With the senators elected by region, it is unlikely that Northern Mindanao , for example, would ever be represented by a father-and-son team, like a feudal enclave. Or the over-represented National Capital Region by a cute brother-and-sister act, like an entry into an amateur song-and-dance contest Or the feudal Central Luzon by a nephew-auntie duo in opposite camps, like an episode in the 80s TV show “Family Feud.”

Former President Joseph Estrada is to be congratulated, at least, for prevailing on his son JV to desist from joining the senatorial race, and his wife, Sen. Loi from seeking re-election. Erap has shown more class than the Pimentels, the Cayetanos and the Aquinos..

My column last week titled Idiot Candidates drew a flood of reactions from readers, most of them agreeing with my call for a) qualifying exams for all candidates, so that we can exclude the stupid and the ignorant from our politics, no matter how popular they may be with the squealing masa.

I invite everyone’s reaction to my two other proposals: b) moral safeguards against indicted and convicted individuals seeking public office; and c) regional election of senators. We have to speak out to prove, if only to ourselves, that we are not an Idiot Nation.****

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Jose Rizal was arrested, imprisoned, accused, tried, convicted and executed.

by Napanice (no login)

And yet he became the Philippines' national hero, is this the height of idiocy that you're talking about?

Maybe you should land on your two feet for a change, being high up in the clouds of fantasy is not good for your mental health.

Nap


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Benigno Aquino was arrested, accused, imprisoned, exiled and murdered.

by Napanice (no login)

And yet he is now considered another national hero. How many more examples of idiocy do you want?

Nap


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wake up

by (no login)

Hey!paano naging hero si Benigno Aquino? I think you should go back to history and open your eyes

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Joseph Estrada, a duly-elected president, is languishing in jail after being accused.

by Napanice (no login)

Four years in jail and no signs of conviction whatsoever, yet he still stands accused of plunder.

Does that mean that he no longer deserves to be called Mr. President and should be delegated to the trash heap of society?

How idiotic do you want to be?

Nap


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stop

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Stop being one sided *******, di ba siya din ang may sabi? weather weather lang talaga ang buhay. Nagnakaw siya at nahuli, thats it

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Re: stop

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Tama ka karim!!!

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Napanice...

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Nice examples.

But I have only one question:

Where are the results?





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Results of what?

by Napanice (no login)

Please be more specific, I don't want to second guess your thoughts.

Nap


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Specifically...

by (no login)

...the results of those acts of heroism that you cited.

Where are they?

Aquino got shot in 1983. 24 years later the Philippines is still a basket case.

Where are the results?





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Ah so....

by Napanice (no login)

The results were the Philippine Revolution and People Power, at least in the case of Rizal and Aquino. As far as the Philippines being a basket case, maybe you're barking at the wrong tree because these heroes were never given a chance to lead our country.

However, there's Estrada. He was chosen to lead but the elitists decided otherwise, now you can tell me what kind of result we got out of that one.

Anyway calling the nation idiotic because someone in government upheld the constitutional rights of a citizen is totally unjustified. Shame on you!

Nap



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... arf arf! :-D

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Napanice said:
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The results were the Philippine Revolution and People Power, at least in the case of Rizal and Aquino.
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Jeez. What a short-term outlook. 20 years and 100 years down the track after these "revolutions", where are the results?



Napanice said:
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As far as the Philippines being a basket case, maybe you're barking at the wrong tree because these heroes were never given a chance to lead our country.
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Tough luck.

Losers whine about doing their best.
Winners go home and bonk the Prom Queen.



Napanice said:
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However, there's Estrada. He was chosen to lead but the elitists decided otherwise, now you can tell me what kind of result we got out of that one.
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No results, I suppose.



Napanice said:
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Anyway calling the nation idiotic because someone in government upheld the constitutional rights of a citizen is totally unjustified. Shame on you!
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Just calling a spade a spade, dude.

What else do you call a nation whose only achievement is to consistently fail.





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An irrelevant idiotic editorial from Abaya

by Lermuel G. Abarte (no login)

Obviously, if you want good candidates, then change the law. So, do we preselect candidates? Who decides? Obviously, once again, you make a selection committee that only allows for partisan selection. Idiotic editorial. Short-sighted. The view of a kid.

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Who is the idiot, please stand up!

by CoeL (no login)

When we gained our sovereignty the Filipinos stopped being intelligent to
keep up with the type of government we have. Democracy is considered the most
difficult type of government because it requires the widest spread of intelligence.
This is the reason why we enthrone unworthy leaders because there are so much
ignorance amongst us.

What you see now is not unique to the Filipinos...it has happened time and
again to other countries more progressive than ours. Your European friends
should know Europe is full of them! Being naive, you believe them, since you
have a penchant to assumed too much and focus more on what you see. You are
just but a typical reporter who tries to anger readers to gain attention.

You seemed not to understand how democracy works. It may be true such is
responsible for our debasement....but this again is a matter of subjective
judgement! YOU as a writer should present facts and not be judgemental!



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The Champ

by ramon (no login)

BASING NEWS ON NEWS PAPERS, OVER THE RADIOS AND TELEVISIONS, PACQUIAO HAS BEEN USED by GMA AND OTHER POLITICIANS AND OPPONENTS ACCUSED HIM OF THE SAME AND HE DENIED ALL QUESTIONS REGARD THESE. The CHAMP creating enemies now and getting criticism frequently. Manny are now in to a new world of his life. I may suggest to up date your weaponry. Your 20 hand guns are not effecient to fight your opponents. You should obtain long range weapons like M14, grenade launcher, granade and M16. Hope you can do two things at the same time : politician and boxing. Good luck, be safe...enjoy you new world.


ramon

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Tell Manny to go to the Wizard of Oz

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

You know, when I was 5 years old, I really enjoyed this story. I even retold this to my younger brother and sister, to my cousins, and then my mother was quite quick to ask me some points she liked emphasized, like wisdom for the tin can soldier and for the girl to find her way home.

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Re: The Champ

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On Manny's next fight in the ring, if he is the winner as congressman, he will assign a look-alike to do his work in the municipality office. Booooooooo!!!!Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

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European Commission wants Gloria's Human Rights Violations exposed.

by Napanice (no login)

In a show of mock concern a week ago, Gloria Macapagal appealed to the free world to help the Philippines deal with the increasing number of extra judicial and political killings committed by her own military and police forces. One butcher officer by the name of Palparan has been fingered and implicated by militant groups as one of the men responsible for the many murders committed against enemies of the current administration.

Well, her patented lie has been proven once again when she rejected the demand of the European Commission's demand to get an official copy of the Melo report implicating the military and police forces as the culprits of the hundreds of murders committed.

Obviously no one in the Philippine govt, either administration or opposition, have the guts to tackle this problem head on knowing what the possible consequences are should the criminals who are under the protective custody of the authorities decide to retaliate violently against their accusers.

And that means including Gloria Macapagal herself.

Nap



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RP admits ‘rampant’ traffic in human organs

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http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/feb/07/yehey/top_stories/20070207top1.html

Wednesday, February, 7 2007

RP admits ‘rampant’ traffic in human organs

In one slum, 3,000 people admit having sold a kidney

The Department of Health on Tuesday admitted to the “rampant” illegal
traffic in human organs and pledged to start drafting regulatory rules
for the growing market.

Much of the trade in human organs, especially kidneys, takes place on
the black market, according to Health Undersecretary Jade del Mundo.

Del Mundo cited a recent University of the Philippines study, which
found that in one slum area in Manila, there were 3,000 men and women
who had sold one of their kidneys for P70,000 to P120,000 ($1,440 to$2,469).

The government needs to initiate a series of consultations with private
and public health sector leaders on how to regulate organ donation in
the “face of rampant, under-the-table traffic in human organs,” del
Mundo said.

He acknowledged that organ donation is a big business in the
Philippines, especially among the poor.

At present there are no specific rules on organ donation to foreigners,
he added.

Commodities
A report in a Japanese newspaper recently said that if the system of
organ donation were regulated, the Philippines could see a rush of
foreign patients, including from Japan, where 10,000 people are awaiting
kidney transplants.

Among the touchy issues scheduled for discussion during the February 10
meeting, is “payment” given by patients to donors.

Some doctors warn that poverty has forced many of the poor to treat
their organs as commodities.

Hospitals have also gone around the government’s official ban on the
“frank sale of kidneys” by using third parties that get commissions for
every match between donor and patient. Other doctors claim that their
patients only give “gifts of gratitude,” which del Mundo dubbed as a
euphemism for sale.

Del Mundo said the consultations would include a proposal to relax
existing limits on the number of foreign patients allowed to have kidney
transplants in the country.

Del Mundo said the limit is 10 percent, to prioritize Filipino patients,
but this is often breached.

Third parties
In December the National Bureau of Investigation launched a probe on the
sale of kidneys through a third party to patients of the St. Luke’s
Medical Center in Quezon City.

The NBI said the probe, which stemmed from an entrapment operation on
December 14, could involve several doctors and other prominent hospitals.

The entrapment led to the arrest of a middleman in the illegal sale of
organs. The NBI agents discovered six male potential organ donors in a
squalid Taguig bungalow.

They discovered files detailing 40-kidney donor operations dating back
to 2005.

Republic Act 9208 (Antitrafficking of Persons Act of 2003) also
penalizes the recruitment, hiring, transport or abduction of persons for
the purpose of removal or sale of organs.

Special Investigator 3 Joey Narciso, case officer, said many of the
files involved operations done in St. Luke’s Medical Center. The
hospital pledged to cooperate with the investigation.

Ethics
Jose Rivero, 31, a tricycle driver of Lumban, Laguna, told the NBI that
Permito had promised him P300,000 for his kidney.

However, he received only P66,000 which led him to report to the NBI.

Narciso said the country has no law prohibiting the direct sale of
organs to a donor.

“There is nothing to prevent a donor and a recipient to come to a
private arrangement,” Narciso said shortly after the raid. “What is
against the law is the existence of a middle man such as Permito.”

Narciso also raised questions about hospital screening, which includes a
review by an ethics committee.

“Such a transaction that Permito arranged between Rivero and the
recipient, if it was revealed or suspected during the screening process,
should have led to the operation being disallowed.”

--AFP and Katrice R. Jalbuena


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Possession of knowledge on the part of DOH is a crime

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

The fact that you know which befalls under your authority and power to enforce the law constitutes negligence and dereliction of duty.

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Precisely correct

by Blackjack (no login)

What can you expect from a corrupt government???? The judiciary in the Philippines is super corrupt and I can say all government agencies in the Philippines are bunch of corrupt ones!

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Ahh, but, Blackjack, we are not talking about the personal status of the law

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

There is law and lawgivers and law enforcers and judges. Let's not confuse the person involved with the law and the law itself.

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But confusion itself is the law.

by Napanice (no login)

Take a look at Comelec and tell me if their legislative powers are in the law. Abalos is subverting the constitution bigtime and no one is complaining against it.

So who's the law?

Nap


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Are you arguing for anarchy?

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

One cannot tie the system into a situation that defeats itself when there is a mechanism within the system to address the issues and to solve them.

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Do you deny that extra-constitutional means exist?

by Napanice (no login)

Like you say, we have to update the laws to fit the times and if prayer rallies and people power are the accepted processes that supplement the constitution then so be it.

Nap


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This is not what I stated

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

I stated at the outset a constitutional convention.

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Fine

by Napanice (no login)

But be careful when you tamper with the law of the land, the last time they did that back in '87 the politicians extended their terms from four to six years! Make sure what you're asking for is worth the risk because the only concern that I see at this time is the wanton political activities of the churches and other religious groups that need to be completely stopped.

Make note, representation based on religious orientation is fragmenting the nation.

Nap


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Read my other arguments

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

I am still arguing for secularism. I do not argue for a change in the Constitution the way people with other agenda intend the Constitution to be. Secularism is somewhat a philosophy and it is also a great political theory and idea.

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It's an old and worn out idea.

by Napanice (no login)

Separation of church and state which doesn't always happen specially when religion has more influence in people's lives. How can you reconcile your secular ideas when there are cultures that mix their laws and religion in one pot?

Nap


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The issue I raise is secularism

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Still irrelevant. But then, why do you complain?

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More than that.

by Napanice (no login)

Along with your pet topic you also made unproven claims, such as the constitution being basically religious. And when you're contradicted you resort to name calling and evasive replies.

Get back into the discussion by supporting your claims, if you can.

Nap


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Should we start with the Preamble?

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Is it religious?

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Is the Preamble the Constitution?

by Napanice (no login)

Now I see where you're coming from, it doesn't even fit your claim that the constitution is basically religious. No wonder you just jumped in with your secularism idea without even presenting the facts beforehand.

Your attempt is amateurish at best, but nice try.

Nap


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Where do you want to start, Napanice?

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

The fact is you made a statement that the Constitution is not religious against my allegation. I asked you where do you want to start and then you made again an irrelevant and incoherent reaction. You do not know the Constitution, so please stop your argumentation since you do not know.

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Funny names only in the Philippines

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JOJOC, BONG, BONG BONG, BOYBOY, DOTDOT, KC, KIKO, KIKAY, PING,PING PING, MOMOK, NONOY, MAKOY, GABI, AGA, TSOY, GOYO, KABAG, POTOY, BOTOY,BOTONG, GINGOY, TIGAS ONYOK, BATSOY, TIBORSIYO, INOY, JIGGOY, OGGOY, TIBO AT MARAMI PANG IBA.

WHAT'S YOU AMUSING NAME??? DON'T BLAME YOUR PARENTS. PINOYS WAYS OF NAMING PEOPLE. LAUGHABLE...
HA! HO! HO! HA! HA!

SOME NAMES WAS TAKEN FROM CALENDARS AND BIBLIC BO0K BUT NOT FUNNY.

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Re: Funny names only in the Philippines

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ADD JOKER ARROYO'S NAME...HAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

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NGITI TAYO!!!

by rocpoee (no login)

Sa ating bayan ay maraming ang PINAKA

Pinaka- maraming bayani. Kung mabibilang mo ang oversea worker na lumalabas sa bayan natin ay iyan ang bilang ng bayani natin.

Pinaka-maraming fiesta o festivity. Halimbawa: Bangos festivity, lansones festivity, tilapia festivity, bulaklak festivity at marami pa
Lahat ng bayan bayan ay mayroon fiesta at parang hindi naghihirap si JUAN.

Pinaka- malaking bandila na gawa dito sa Pilipinas.

Pinaka-maraming mangagaya--Haaaaalimbawa : pelikulang Hollywood--gagawa ng pelikula dito ay pareho ang tema o estoria. Walang original na gawa. Kaya ang tawag sa Pilipino ay "THE GREAT IMITATOR"

Pinaka-maraming artista (lalake o babae) na tumatakbo ng politika(at mga laos na)

Pinaka-maraming salita(language)

Pinaka-maraming bagyo

Pinaka-maraming jeepney (public transportation or private use)

Pinaka-maraming tricycle (public transportation)

Pinaka-maraming religionist

Naka-ngiti na lang kami ng may nagsabi na pinaka-corrupt na bayan ang Pilipinas. Sa isip sana may bansang mas-corrupt sa atin ay ayos na. Ngunit parang malabo mangyari at nakakalungot....


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Pare, umiyak ako.

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Akala ko ngingiti ako. E, ano ang ibig mo sa bihon?

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Re: Pare, umiyak ako.

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NALIMUTAN NG SUMULAT NA IDAGDAG AY PINAKA-MARAMING ASUNGOT SA P. I..KUMAEN KA NA LANG NG BIHON!

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Pinoy sa labas ng bansa ay pinaka

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Pinaka-faultfinder. Nung nandito ka, wala ka namang ginawa. Ang kagaya mo, pagkatapos kumain, umaalis at umiiwas maghugas ng pinggan. Jet lag lang 'yan, pare. O di kaya, loneliness in another country. Homesick ka lang. Puro pintas nga, kaso hindi rin kayang itulak ang damdamin! Ha ha ha!

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Re: Pinoy sa labas ng bansa ay pinaka

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Sa dami ng mga pinoy ns nakatira sa labas ng pinas ay kalaban mo na silang lahat againt isang moronist na nakagaya mo. Moronist ka!!!!

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Re: Pare, umiyak ako.

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LGA asungot ka met! Ay apo awao ti brain ?

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Pikon ka pala

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Halatang sentimental ka, Casabalanca, ay, Ric pala. Ha ha ha! Sige, magpakabaliw ka, ulol.

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Re: Pikon ka pala

by walang pikon dito (no login)

Just drop your bomb in the middle of avenida rizal!!!

Posted on Feb 1, 2007, 9:10 PM
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Gago, 1930 pa yang sinasabi mo.

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Avenida Rizal, hindi mo nga alam kung nasaan yun.

Posted on Feb 2, 2007, 6:20 PM
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Re: Gago, 1930 pa yang sinasabi mo.

by tarantado ka pala (no login)

Ang lahat ng pinoy ay alam yan maliban sa iyo. bogok! Alam mo ba kung nasaan ang tutuban? Kung hindi mo alam hindi ka tunay na Pinoy. Tanga...

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Re: Gago, 1930 pa yang sinasabi mo.

by trambiya (no login)

Kung hindi mo alam ang trambiya ay hindi ka talaga pilipino. Bogos!

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Re: Pare, umiyak ako.

by bakit ka iiyak (no login)

Bakit ka iiyak wala ka namang luha na lalabas...

Posted on Feb 1, 2007, 9:06 PM
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Naku pare napaka autistic mo

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Hind mo alam ang ibig ko sa bihon.

Posted on Feb 2, 2007, 6:21 PM
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Re: Naku pare napaka autistic mo

by bihon kasi ang araw mong kinakain (no login)

austistic bulol!

Posted on Feb 3, 2007, 1:33 AM
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Depende sa PINAKA-

by andy (no login)

hindi naman lahat ng PINAKA ay negatibo ang dating sa paningin, pandinig at kaalamanan.

Meron din naman tayo mga PINAKA-
matalino
maganda
mabait
masunurin
maunawain at madami pang iba.

Posted on Jan 31, 2007, 1:01 PM
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Right on andy

by rocpoee (no login)

I salute you all the way. Excuse my dust...

Posted on Jan 31, 2007, 9:21 PM
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Re: NGITI TAYO!!!

by anonymous (no login)

I would like to add BIRD FLU FESTIVITY.Hooooooooo!!!

Posted on Feb 16, 2007, 10:50 AM
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CHECK IT OUT, HILLARY TO THE WHITEHOUSE IN 2008

by Blackjack (no login)

Hillary to the whitehouse in 2008

http://www.michaelhodges.com/hillary.html


Posted on Feb 16, 2007, 7:58 AM
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Which is more vital, Cha Cha or Anti-Terror Bill?

by Napanice (no login)

Last year every administration politician specially the president and her champion in Congress, Joe de Venecia were saying that the idea of adopting the parliamentary system of government is vital to overall national stability, economic growth, and global confidence.

Now that the Supreme Court has struck down the People's Initiative as just a deceptive ploy to fool the public, Congress has decided to temporarily shelve the unpopular idea.

But wait, there's another worm that's out of the can. The other day presidential spokesman Ignacio Bunye has announced that Congress should work overtime in order to pass the anti-terror bill because it is extremely urgent that it be enacted by the lawmakers.

And get this, he said this anti-terror bill is "vital to overall national stability, economic growth, and global confidence."

Did we not hear these same words coming from the bowels of hell?

Nap


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Re: Which is more vital, Cha Cha or Anti-Terror Bill?

by ramon (no login)

Both have unpleasant consequences. I put myself in neutral. I don't want GMA in power for a indifenite lenght of time. She's a CROOK!!!

Posted on Feb 15, 2007, 8:58 PM
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LAPID AGAINST BINOY

by anomymous (no login)

strategy : Lito/Gloria kabalen meeting. If Lito wins as mayor of Makati Gloria will be a very happy because she will be releived from Binay's hard criticism on her administration. Reward for Lito: substantial amount of pesos or something else.

Political dynasty business : MACAPAGAL, ARROYO, LAPID, ESTRADA AND MANY OTHERS.






















STRAGETY

Posted on Feb 5, 2007, 9:23 PM
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With guys like you, Bill Gates will have a dynasty

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Selling his spellcheck software.

Please check your English and your spelling.

Posted on Feb 6, 2007, 6:32 PM
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YOUR NOT MENTALLY ALERT!!!

by anonymous (no login)

if you are mentally alert (but you are not). You have just say use your computer to check your spelling instead of referring to a software for that purpose--end of story. I beleive you are using software and I don't care. You are burning your computer too everyday right? You should know that.

Nowadays, YOUNG FUNK LIKE YOU THINK KNOWS EVERYTHING. YOU ARE A VERY ANNOYING INDIVIDUAL!!!

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Wrong again, you are bad at spelling and grammar

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Please do not contribute since you have poor communication skills. You embarrass Filipinos with excellent English skills.

Posted on Feb 7, 2007, 6:59 PM
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Re: Wrong again, you are bad at spelling and grammar

by yabang (no login)

Yabang ka lemel abarto.

Posted on Feb 7, 2007, 9:03 PM
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Re: Wrong again, you are bad at spelling and grammar

by gago ka (no login)

The only flip na sobra ang yabang.

Posted on Feb 7, 2007, 9:10 PM
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I AGREE M/F Lemuel G. Abarte

by raid (no login)

O. K. I am not going to write my messages on this cyberforum, but, you have to prove to me that you are a regular employee of PHNOC and you receiving salary by contributing your messages on this forum. Agree? Total you are the most MAYABANG dito sa cyber. What do you say? Write your messages. Let me know. If you are not a regular employee of PHNOC e tuloy ang pagmumuran . I am waiting...

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Irrelevant to the issue

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

So, please stop embarrassing all other Filipino contributors with your bad spelling, it is a bad influence.

Posted on Feb 8, 2007, 5:46 PM
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Re: Irrelevant to the issue

by raid (no login)

Wala kang sinabi sa tunay na issue.YABANG! TANGA! DUWAG!!! young funk!!! TAKE A WALK! ONE QUESTION CAN'T ANSWER. ho! ho! ho!

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FALSE CLAIM

by raid (no login)

You are claiming now that you are good communicator and excellent english skill. Not true. You are indeed have bad heart and dirt habit to say, You should scare of your shadow to claim. Don't compare yourself to others who are good. YABANG LANG YAN SA UTAK MO!!!

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Bad English

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Stop and shut up.

Posted on Feb 8, 2007, 5:47 PM
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Re: Bad English

by raid (no login)

BAD PERSON, BAD PERSON AND MOST OF ALL DUWAG!!!

Posted on Feb 9, 2007, 4:03 PM
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Re: Bad English

by raid (no login)

It's o. k. clever you. As long as the average pinoy understand me fine after all I am not American or British.


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Then by all means, use your language

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Don't pretend to be you are not, and why complain that you are not a Brit or a Yankee?

Posted on Feb 11, 2007, 5:26 PM
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Re: Then by all means, use your language

by olol (no login)

I'm not complaining maybe you are mix.

Posted on Feb 15, 2007, 12:03 AM
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Re: YOUR NOT MENTALLY ALERT!!!

by Anonymous (no login)

we just love to use our computer rather than using drugs..lol

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Re: YOUR NOT MENTALLY ALERT!!!

by lol (no login)

I don't know about that olol!

Posted on Feb 14, 2007, 11:58 PM
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Re: LAPID AGAINST BINOY

by raid (no login)

I notice your spelling not right. Please correct it!

Posted on Feb 7, 2007, 4:36 AM
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THE MORE WE DEPLOY, THE LESS WE PRODUCE.

by Napanice (no login)

It's just so irritating to see our incompetent leaders still hawking the concept of global competetiveness when the factors and ingredients to put some substance to this dream are missing. From nurses to computer programmers, merchant marine to caregiver, every single Filipino worker are becoming more aware of their predicament in as far as the ability to earn a living is concerned. The lure of an overseas job is so great that the local industries are always scrounging for a few good men. What's even worse, some segment of our society think they know better than the rest of the country when it comes to an economic recovery or even providing the needed leadership to create a strong republic. Napanice

Manila 11:17 pm | New York 11:17 am | London 4:17 pm

RP economy's global competitiveness falls: study
Posted: 6:57 PM | May 15, 2003

Joel Francis Guinto
INQ7.net

THE PHILIPPINES' competitiveness ranking in 2003 as evaluated by the Switzerland-based Institute for Management and Development (IMD) fell to 22 from 18 a year earlier, dragged down by the entry of four "more vibrant economies", poor infrastructure and the government's inefficiency to attract foreign investors, an official of the IMD's partner in the country said Thursday.

Sao Paolo in Brazil, Zhejiang in China, Maharashtra in India and Romania, all new additions to the IMD's list overtook the Philippines, Asian Institute of Management (AIM) policy center director Federico Macaranas told reporters in a press briefing.

The United States topped the IMD's list of 30 countries whose population is greater than 20 million, the same list the Philippines was on. Finland on the other hand topped another list of 29 countries with population less than 20 million.

The countries were ranked on four general categories: economic performance, government efficiency, business efficiency and infrastructure, with numerous sub-categories under each.


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Less Production of everything except more people!

by Feling (no login)

for future exports?

Posted on May 15, 2003, 10:41 AM
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Maid in RP, Export Quality.

by Napanice (no login)

And the output is measured not in terms of production but rate of reproduction. Napanice

Posted on May 15, 2003, 1:22 PM
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Literally a COTTAGE INDUSTRY.

by Feling (no login)

Philippine version of Small Business Development.

Posted on May 16, 2003, 1:21 PM
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What we get is relative to what we spend!

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Dear Napanice,

It doesn't matter so much what other countries give their workers, if other countries can pay so much it is also because they will charge so much of other things such as rent, food, etc. We can all be making 10,000 dollars per month but if we spend 11,000 dollars we are still losing.

The fact of the matter is true however, that our best talent are being pirated from our country because of the attractiveness of a better life. Who can blame them. We as a nation however, lack the commitment, loyalty or dedication to the country. Why? Maybe because we lack the courage to say that we are proud of our nation? Or we lack the courage to follow the law of the nation because no one here does? We all know that Filipinos act like Filipinos in the Philippines, but they are up-standing citizens in other countries.

The point of the matter is that, the Philippines will be what we conceive it to be. We have to believe that the Philippines can be great! And it must be made Great by Filipinos who are willing to give all their effort to acheive this Glory. Then we must praise these people for what good they have done so that others may believe it as well and we may all work together for the Greatness of the Philippines.

Regards,

Michael

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Another criminal accusation coming from the Macapagal government.

by Napanice (no login)

Inciting to sedition raps filed vs Tribune chief
State prosecutors cite Olivares’ columns, editorials as proof

2007/02/15

In the day of hearts, the Tribune publisher and editor-in-chief, Ninez Cacho-Olivares, was slapped by the state prosecutors with the criminal charge of “inciting to sedition,” along with two columnists of the paper.

The charges were reported to have been submitted to the Manila Trial Court with a recommended bail of P12,000.

An arrest warrant is being expected by Olivares, who was not even given a copy of the resolution of the case, even as this was distributed to Justice beat reporters.

In a 29-page resolution, Chief State Prosecutor Jovencito Zuño approved separate criminal informations against Olivares, Ike Señeres and Herman Tiu Laurel and recommended bail at P12,000 each.

Posted on Feb 14, 2007, 7:14 AM
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WHAT WILL MATTER? CHECK THIS OUT, YOU'LL LIKE IT..!

by Blackjack (no login)

http://www.josephsoninstitute.org/movie_whatwillmatter.html

Posted on Feb 14, 2007, 1:55 AM
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GOOD INFO, PLEASE READ..!

by Blackjack (no login)

Good info, please read.

Believe me my friend's coming from someone who has been a victim of ID Theft, it's a nightmare, take the necessary precautions listed below to better safeguard your privacy.


ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE

Read this and make a copy for your files in case you need to refer to it someday.

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company. Maybe we should all take some of his advice!

1. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put "PHOTO ID REQUIRED".

2. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT put the complete account number on the "For" line. Instead, just put the last four numbers. The credit card company knows the
rest of the number, and anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check processing channels won't have access to it.

3. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you have a PO Box use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a PO Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks (DUH!). You can add it if it is necessary but, if you have it printed, anyone can get it.

4. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport when I travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number, credit cards, etc..

Unfortunately, I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieves ordered an expensive monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or someone you know.

5. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the key is having the toll-free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.

6. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit cards, etc. were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent, and this is a first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one).

But here's what is perhaps most important of all (I never even thought to do this.).

7. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a fraud alert on your name and also call the Social Security fraud line number. I had never heard of doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit.

By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all the damage had been done. There are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away this weekend (someone turned it in). It seems to have stopped them dead in their tracks.

Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet, etc, has been stolen:

1.) Equifax: 1-800-525-6285

2.) Experian (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742

3.) Trans Union : 1- 800-680-7289

4.) Social Security Administration (fraud line): 1-800-269-0271

We pass along jokes on the Internet; we pass along just about everything.
If you are willing to pass this information along, it could really help someone.



NOTICE: This electronic communication (including attachments) is intended solely for the individual(s) named above. Unauthorized use of a confidential transmission may be subject to state or federal law. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately upon your receipt of this transmission, delete it, and avoid any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this transmission.



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Re-electionist Joker Arroyo makes an ass of himself.

by Napanice (no login)

Being a senatorial candidate, he of all people should demonstrate his knowledge of the constitution when it comes to the election process.

Re-electionist Sen. Joker Arroyo criticized the opposition Tuesday for including detained Lt. SG Antonio Trillanes IV in its senatorial lineup, ABS-CBN's Bandila reported.

Joker had better explain himself, is Trillanes violating the law? If so, then Joker better charge with him a crime else the voters will see his attack as another example of character assasination because Trillanes has never been convicted of any crime.

Nap


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Re: Re-electionist Joker Arroyo makes an ass of himself.

by senador (no login)

Honason was detained and running for senatorial like Trillenes. Why Joker criticizing for. Arroyo is a joke as implied by his name. Funny--only in the Philippines.

Posted on Feb 13, 2007, 10:29 PM
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Gloria Macapagal and Comelec gearing up for dirty May election

by Napanice (no login)

Daily Tribune

Pinoy majority doubt clean polls by Comelec—Ibon

By Michaela P. del Callar and Marie A. Surbano

02/14/2007

The credibility of the Commission on Elections (Comelec) is at a low, wit the majority of the Ibon nationwide survey respondents doubting that the upcoming national and local elections will be clean and honest, even as the European Union (EU) yesterday expressed the hope that there will be clean and fair elections.

Seventy-one-percent (71 percent) of 1,493 respondents (or 1,061) said they do not believe that the Comelec can conduct clean elections in May.

Of the 1,061 respondents who distrust the Comelec, 72 percent remained firm in their belief that there was truth to the allegations that President Arroyo engaged in corruption and cheating during the 2004 national elections. Taken on a total of respondents, it was a total of 64 percent that believes there was cheating at the polls in 2004.

The Ibon survey was conducted nationwide from Jan. 8 to 18 with a margin of error of plus or minus three percent.

At the same time, as the country goes to polls on May 14 to elect the entire 250-member House of Representatives, half of the 24-body Senate and over 17,000 public officials, the EU yesterday said it hopes to see clean, fair and transparent elections.


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Re: Gloria Macapagal and Comelec gearing up for dirty May election

by anonymous (no login)

Hindi ako nagtataka. Gloria is good at it. She is a tall cheater.

Posted on Feb 13, 2007, 9:51 AM
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A dirty election guarantees victory for the dirty candidates.

by Napanice (no login)

A loser will always resort to cheating in order to win.

Nap


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Voter's education is not for the poor and underprivileged

by Napanice (no login)

Inquirer
Comelec voter's education website goes live

By Erwin Oliva
INQUIRER.net
Last updated 10:18pm (Mla time) 02/13/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- The Commission on Elections (Comelec) has quietly launched its own voter's education website, INQUIRER.net learned.

Dubbed Bagong Botante, the website went live early this month to provide more information to Filipino voters.

The website links to information on how voters should use their votes, how overseas Filipino workers can cast their ballot, and how the proposed automated election system works.

Bagong Botante also tells about the mechanics of the electoral system and news about the poll body. The site also has an online accreditation system for local and foreign media organizations.

The website hopes to teach people how to vote wisely. It encourages the electorate to be more vigilant, giving them basic guidelines on how to spot poll fraud.


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This might Hit Home for a lot of us!

by Blackjack (no login)

If you don't open and view anything else in your life, Please open and view/hear this!
You won't be sorry, you will be a little wiser for it though!

If you have children, I would expect you'll want them to see this too!



It's on Full Screen...really NICE!




Click here: PARENT'S WISH

http://parentswish.com/site01/big.html

Posted on Jan 28, 2007, 11:56 PM
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Tumatayo ang feathers ko, pare

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Huwag mo nang ibenta diyan sa Thailand ang pagkasentimental mo, baka gayahin tayong mga Pilipino.

Posted on Jan 30, 2007, 5:09 PM
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Nakakatouch talaga ano pare ko?

by Blackjack (no login)

Mahusay ang pagkagawa!

Posted on Jan 30, 2007, 6:36 PM
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Re: Tumatayo ang feathers ko, pare

by ANOMYMOUS (no login)

Mayroon ka bang feather ? Ang akala ko ay ibon lang.Baka naman may bird virus ka!!!

Posted on Jan 31, 2007, 1:27 AM
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Eto pa ang isang autistic, hind alam magspell

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

AMO ka pala,e.

Posted on Feb 2, 2007, 6:22 PM
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Re: Eto pa ang isang autistic, hind alam magspell

by spelling mo mali (no login)

Baka artistic hindi austistic. bulol

Posted on Feb 3, 2007, 1:48 AM
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Hind ka marunong ng English

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Grade 1 lang ang inabot mo.

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Re: Hind ka marunong ng English

by engot (no login)

Marunong ka ba? Hindi ka marunong din e kasi puro tanong mo kay mr. webster.

Posted on Feb 6, 2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: Hind ka marunong ng English

by raid (no login)

Yong pangalan mo sa biblic nakuha ano? Buti hindi ka nagmana kay sa pedro. Ha! ha!ha!

Posted on Feb 6, 2007, 12:32 AM
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Re: Hind ka marunong ng English

by raid (no login)

Mr. skillful, hindi ako kano. Nakapagaral ka lang ng kunti ay magaling ka na. Ho!ho!ho!

Posted on Feb 9, 2007, 11:19 PM
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HAMBOG AT YABANG hindi ka rin marunong ng English

by engot ka (no login)

You have a big problem. You are putting your self-importance above to all average filipinos. On your messages you are uses words that the average pinoys can't comprehend or understand. These filipinos use to call Mr. Webster everytime just to understand what you are saying. You are showing that you are YABANG AT HAMBOG. Nakapagaral ka lang ng kunti ay napunta na sa kokote mo ang masamang hangin ng kayabangan at kahambogan.Waka kang sinabi....they know you!!!

Posted on Feb 12, 2007, 11:43 PM
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LOVING BOYFRIEND

by Blackjack (no login)

LOVING BOYFRIEND

There was a girl who hated herself because she was blind. She hated
everyone, except her loving boyfriend. He was always there for her. One day,
her boyfriend asked her to marry him. She said that if she could only see
the world, she would marry him.

One day, someone donated a pair of eyes to her. She was able to see
everything for the first time, including her boyfriend.

Her boyfriend asked her, "Now that you can see the world, will you marry
me?"

The girl was shocked when she realized that her boyfriend was blind, and
refused to marry him.

Her boyfriend walked away in tears. Later, he wrote a letter to her saying:
"Just take care of my eyes, dear."

This is how some people change when their status changes. Few remember what
their life was like before and those who have always been there for them,
even during the most painful situations.

Life Is A Gift

Today
Before you think of saying an unkind word -
Think of someone who can't speak.

Before you complain about the taste of your food - Think of someone who has
nothing to eat.

Before you complain about your husband or wife - Think of someone who's
crying out to God for a companion.

Today before you complain about life -
Think of someone who went too early to heaven.

Before you complain about your children -
Think of someone who desires children but they're barren.

Before you argue about your dirty house, someone didn't clean or sweep -
Think of the people who are living in the streets.

Before whining about the distance you drive -
Think of someone who walks the same distance with their feet.

And when you are tired and complain about your job -
Think of the unemployed, the disabled and those who wished they had your
job.

But before you think of pointing the finger or condemning another -
Remember th at not one of us are without sin and we all answer to one maker.

And when depressing thoughts seem to get you down -
Put a smile on your face and thank God you're alive and still around.


Life is a gift,
Live it,
Enjoy it,
Celebrate it,
And fulfill it.




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Australia's PM pays lip service to conservative buddy George Bush.

by Napanice (no login)

Australia's conservative Prime Minister John Howard said Sunday that victory for Democratic Sen. Barack Obama and his party in next year's presidential election would be a boon for terrorists.

Obama hit back, saying that Howard should back up his rhetorics by sending an additional 20,000 combat troops to Iraq to help the Americans. So far, while US casualties are more than 3,000, the Australians have lost practically none of their people.

And the reason, Australia has only over 1,000 bodies in Iraq and most of them are in non-combat roles. In other words, they're in protected jobs and totally out of harm's way.

Howard sure knows how to fight a terrorist war - by talking his friend into it.

Nap


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GISING PINOY / WAKE UP FILIPINO

by Blackjack (no login)

Mga kababayan,

Meron akong gustong ibahagi para sa ating lahat na mga PILIPINO.
Simple pero parang mahirap gawin ng karamihan sa atin. Hindi ito
makukuha sa puro daldalan lang or walang kabuluhang pagtatalo, kumilos
tayo ngayon na.


Sa ibang bansa: Pag nagkasala ang Pinoy, pinarusahan siya ayon sa
batas.

Sa PINAS: Pag nagkasala ang ang Pinoy, ayaw niyang maparusahan kasi
sabi niya mali raw ang batas.


Sa ibang bansa: Pinag-aaralan muna ng Pinoy ang mga batas bago siya
pumunta roon, kasi takot siyang magkamali.

Sa PINAS: Pag nagkamali ang Pinoy, sorry kasi hindi raw niya alam na
labag sa batas iyon.


Sa ibang bansa: Kahit gaano kataas ang bilihin at tax sa USA okey
lang, katuwiran natin doble kayod na lang.

Sa PINAS: mahilig ka sa last day para magbayad ng tax minsan dinadaya
mo pa o kaya hindi ka nagbabayad. Rally ka kaagad kapag tumaas ang
pasahe at bilihin imbes na magsipag mas gusto natin ang nagkukwentuhan
lang sa munisipyo o kahit sa alinmang tanggapan.


Sa Singapore : Kapag nahuli kang nagkalat or nagtapon ng basura sa
hindi tamang lugar, magbabayad ka na 500 Singapore dollars. Sabi ng
Pinoy, Okey lang kasi lumabag ako sa batas.

Sa Pinas: Kapag nagkamali ang Pinoy katulad nang ganito, Sabi ng
Pinoy, ang lupit naman ni Bayani Fernando , mali naman ang pinaiiral
niyang batas eh akala mo kung sino. Ayun nag-rally na ang Pinoy
gustong patalsikin si Bayani Fernando kahit na alam niyang mali siya.


Mga igan, ilan pa lang iyan baka may iba pa kayong alam.

Bakit ang PINOY, pwedeng maging "law abiding citizen sa ibang bansa ng
walang angal" pero sa sarili nating bayang PILIPINAS na sinasabi
ninyong mahal natin, eh hindi natin magawa, BAKIIITTTTT?????????


ETO PA, "Ang Pilipino NOON at NGAYON":

NOON: Wow ang sarap ng kamote (kahit nakaka-utot)

NGAYON: Ayaw ko ng kamote gusto ko French Fries (imported eh)


NOON: Wow ang sarap ng kapeng barako

NGAYON: Ayaw ko niyan gusto kong kape sa STARBUCKS (imported coffee
100 pesos per cup)


NOON: Bili ka ng tela para magpatahi ng pantalon like maong

NGAYON: Gusto ko LEVI'S, WRANGLER, LEE (Tapos rally tayo "GMA tuta ng
KANO") Di ba tuta ka rin naman.


NOON: Sabon na Perla OK ng pampaligo

NGAYON: Gusto mo DOVE, HENO DE PRAVIA, IVORY, etc. may matching
shampoo pa


NOON: Pag naglaba ka batya at palopalo ok na, minsan banlaw lang sa
batis pwede na

NGAYON: Naka-washing machine ka na plus ARIEL powder soap with
matching DOWNY pa para mabango


Alam ko mas marami pa ang alam ninyo tungkol dito, pero ilan ilan lang
iyan para bigyan ng pansin.

Mga Pilipino ng ba tayo? O baka sa salita lang at E-Mail pero wala
naman sa gawa.



wake up filipinos

My Fellow Filipinos,

When I was small, the Philippine peso was P7 to the dollar. The
president was Diosdado Macapagal.

Life was simple. Life was easy. My father was a farmer.

My mother kept a small sari-sari store where our neighbors bought sang-
perang asin, sang-perang bagoong, sang-perang suka, sang-perang toyo
at pahinging isang butil na bawang. Our backyard had kamatis,
kalabasa, talong, ampalaya, upo, batao, and okra.

Our silong had chicken. We had a pig, dog & cat.

And of course, we lived on the farm. During rainy season, my father
caught frogs at night which my mother made into batute (stuffed frog),
or just plain fried.

During the day, he caught hito and dalag from his rice paddies, which
he would usually inihaw.

During dry season, we relied on the chickens, vegetables, bangus,
tuyo, and tinapa. Every now and then, there was pork and beef from the
town market.

Life was so peaceful, so quiet, no electricity, no TV. Just the radio
for Tia Dely, Roman Rapido, Tawag ng Tanghalan and Tang-tarang-tang.
And who can forget Leila Benitez on Darigold Jamboree?

On weekends, I played with my neighbors (who were all my cousins).
Tumbang-preso, taguan, piko, luksong lubid, patintero, at iba pa. I*
don't know about you, but I miss those days.

These days, we face the TV, Internet, e-mail, newspaper, magazine,
grocery catalog, or drive around.

The peso is a staggering and incredible P54 to the dollar.

Most people can't have fun anymore. Life has become a battle. We live
to work. Work to live. Life is not easy.

I was in Saudi Arabia in 1983. It was lonely, difficult, & scary. It
didn't matter if you were a man or a woman. You were a target for
rape. The salary was cheap & the vacation far between. If the boss
didn't want you to go on holiday, you didn't. They had your passport.
Oh, and the agency charged you almost 4months of your salary (which,
if you had to borrow on a "20% per month arrangement" meant your first
year's pay was all gone before you even earned it).

The Philippines used to be one of the most important countries in
Asia .

Before & during my college days, many students from neighboring Asian
countries like Malaysia , Indonesia , Japan and China went to the
Philippines to get their diplomas. Until 1972, like President
Macapagal, President Marcos was one of the most admired presidents of
the world. The Peso had kept its value of P7 to the dollar until I
finished college.

Today, the Philippines is famous as the "housemaid" capital of the
world. It ranks very high as the "cheapest labor" capital of the
world, too. We have maids in Hong Kong, laborers in Saudi Arabia ,
dancers in Japan , migrants and TNTs in Australia and the US , and all
sorts of other "tricky" jobs in other parts of the globe. Quo Vadis,
Pinoy?

Is that a wonder or a worry? Are you proud to be a Filipino, or does
it even matter anymore? When you see the Filipino flag and hear the
Pambansang Awit, do you feel a sense of pride or a sense of defeat &
uncertainty? If only things could change for the better.......

Hang on for this is a job for Superman. Or whom do you call?
Ghostbusters. Joke. Right? This is one of our problems. We say "I love
the Philippines . I am proud to be a Filipino." When I send you a
joke, you send it to everyone in your address book even if it kills
the Internet. But when I send you a note on how to save our country &
ask you to forward it, what do you do? You chuck it in the bin.

I want to help the maids in Hong Kong . I want to help the laborers in
Saudi Arabia . I want to help the dancers in Japan . I want to help
the TNTs in America and Australia .

I want to save the people of the Philippines . But I cannot do it
alone. I need your help and everyone else's.

So please forward this e-mail to your friends. If you say you love the
Philippines , prove it. And if you don't agree with me, say something
anyway.

The indifference is a crime on its own.

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ACTORS AND ACTRESSES POLITICIAN

by ramon (no login)

There are has been and some are active still in the entertainment business aspiring to run in the political zoo.

OVER EXPOSURES In the eyes of public in the everyday routine of life was seen as BIG ADVANTAGES of actors and actresses to win in the political arena

CHOOSY They aim for the highiest positions like mayors and senators and no lower than that

Known of their no experience and intact knowledge to perform the job, they need lots of learning to do. Insistense instinct, their suicidal attitude to continue prevail.

To those winners--The time for them to learn andsavor the experience ahead with the help of those politicial around then with experience.

To those losers--There will be next to try again

MY IDOLS:
Former president Ramon Magsaysay
and
Former senator Rogelio de la Rosa

These two are the BEST

One man opinion

MABUHAY, GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

ramon







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More Americans killed in Iraq means a safer U.S, right?

by Napanice (no login)

CNN

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- An explosion killed three U.S. troops and wounded four others as the soldiers searched a building for a weapons cache in Diyala province in Iraq, the U.S. military announced Saturday.

The killings on Friday raise the February death toll for U.S. troops to 37.

The nearly four-year-long war has taken the lives of 3,113 U.S. troops and seven Department of Defense civilians.


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After wasting time and money on Con Ass, De Venecia now asks for special sessions.

by Napanice (no login)

GMA calls special session of Congress

BY AUREA CALICA

The Philippine Star

President Arroyo asked Congress Friday to hold a special session from Feb. 19 to 20 to pass vital legislation, including the anti-terrorism bill.

Mrs. Arroyo said "it would be a pity" if these proposed measures would remain pending for months since Congress would resume session on June 4 after adjourning last Thursday.

Congress adjourned Thursday with the House unable to ratify the anti-terrorism bill due to lack of a quorum.

The bill needs ratification by both the Senate and House of Representatives before it can be submitted for the signature of President Arroyo, who has certified the bill as urgent.

Speaker Jose de Venecia had earlier asked the President to call a special session of four to five days to approve eight priority bills that were not acted upon by Congress during the last session day. Mrs. Arroyo decided on a two-day special session.

"It will be difficult (for us to muster a quorum) but we must," De Venecia told reporters in a briefing at his residence in Forbes Park in Makati City.

He appealed to congressmen and senators to participate in the special session even as they become busy with the May 14 polls. The campaign period for senatorial candidates will start on Feb. 13.


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On April 1, 2007, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will begin accepting new H-1B

by Blackjack (no login)

Attorney Advertising
© 2007 Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
February 2007 Alert Business Immigration
www.kramerlevin.com

On April 1, 2007, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will begin accepting new H-1B petitions
for professionals to begin H-1B employment on October 1, 2007.

We urge you to act now and take stock of your hiring needs, and caution you that last year, all 65,000
H-1B numbers were used up by May 26, a mere 56 days after the filing gate opened. We expect the
numbers to be snapped up even earlier this year.

You should start reviewing your employment needs to determine whether any foreign nationals will be
requiring H-1B status. This includes those now employed by you in F-1 practical training status, TN
status, J-1 status, as well as those you plan to bring on board after October 1.

International Students

Please note that even if you plan to hire a foreign national who will soon graduate from a U.S.
university, and has an employment authorization card, you must still act now to file an H-1B petition
for him. Here’s why:

The Problem

Suppose you plan to hire someone who will graduate in June 2007, and that that person has an
employment authorization card valid through the end of June 2008. While it’s true that this recent
graduate can be employed by you for a year, after June 2008 your employee will no longer be workauthorized.

The Solution

If you file an H-1B petition for this recent graduate on April 1, and ask the USCIS to change his status
to H-1B effective October 1, 2007, this person will be in valid H-1B status for three years, starting on
October 1.

What About Foreign Nationals with Advanced Degrees?

There are an additional 20,000 H-1B numbers, on top of the annual allotment of 65,000, for those
foreign nationals who have earned a Master’s or higher degree from a U.S. institution of higher
education. But even for these people, we urge you to file early. Last year, those additional H-1B
numbers were all gone by the end of July.

H-1B Numbers To Open Up On April 1 For October 1, 2007 Start Date

As in past years, the H-1B cap does not apply to foreign nationals who already hold H-1B status and
are seeking to change their H-1B employer and/or extend their H-1B stay in the United States.
We encourage you to contact us now regarding your H-1B hiring needs.

***

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It is not intended to provide legal advice. Readers should seek specific legal advice before taking any action with respect
to the matters we discuss here. Should you have any questions or wish to discuss any of the issues raised in this
memorandum, please call your Kramer Levin contact.

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Simple life, simple prroblem and great happiness

by (no login)

May mga taong walang kakuntentuhan at laging naiingit sa
kapwa,may kanya kanya tayong paraan sa buhay ng ayon sa kagustuhan ng panginoon,hindi kasakiman ang sagot sa kahirapan bagkos sa kabila ng kahirapan may kaligayahang totoo na mas mahigit pa kaysa kaligayahan ng mayaman,
Hindi dapat ipangalan dakan ang tagumpay,hindi dapat
ipagasabi ang kabutihang ginawa ng kanan kahit sa kaliwang kamay,simpleng buhay simpleng problema at higit na kaligayahan,ang sikreto ng buhay ay ito,acceptance and contentment,
Nandyan na ang pamahalaan, wala na tayong dapat gawin
kundi magkaisa, wag makipagkumpetensya kaninoman bagkus sa sarili itanim na iyan ang gusto ng panginoon, ano ang dadalhin mo kaibigan sa hukay mo?isang pirasong damit?
Naguunahan ang uod sa katawan mo,natanong mo na ba ang sarili mo ano ang buti na nagawa mo?
Ano ang iyong pagkatao?makatao ka ba o para kang isang hayop, na walang silbi,hindi ka sigurado sa sarili mo
kaya ikaw ay naghahanap ng damay?ano ba ang buhay?ito ba ay materyal lang,pagtulong at pagharap sa katotohanan na
may higit na mas malakas kaysa sa tao, ano ba ang buhay,isang iglap walang isang oras, isang kurap mata
lamang,?ano ang nagawa mo para sa bayan?ang manggulo at
kumampi sa mali?Dapat encourage natin ang mga matyaga ang mga nagcckap ang mga kabayan natin na nagpapakita ng dedikasyon, ang mga nagbibigay ng magagandang kuro kuro at
opinyon sa forum na ito, hindi ang mga taong puno ng hilakbot at pagnanasa sa kapwa.
Sino ang tutulong sa pilipinas?IKaw na puno ng inngit
O kami na nagbibigay ng magandang solusyon para pamarisan,
Walang puwang ang kalangitan para sa mga mapagtungayaw at maiingitin at mukhang kwarta,
Yan ang totoo dyan mga kaibigan.

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magaling

by (no login)

Keep it up,you will be successful.email me.

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Galing mo

by (no login)

Teacher ako dito sa china, ngayon ko lang nakita na may ganito pala at salamat sa yo Mr.Pulmano sa iyong mga pinakitang pagiging makabayan, sa baabeng tulad ko, humahang ako sa mga katulad mo.keep it up sir.

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Re: Galing mo

by ramon (no login)

yeah right you dont knw who he really is.. lol.

Posted on Jan 23, 2007, 8:57 AM
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Nagaakusa ka mahiya ka naman

by (no login)

dapat nga nasahin mo ang sinusulat nya,baka ikaw ang isa
sa mga tinutukoy nya kaya ka nasasaktan?
wag ka naman ganyan kabayan,kaya hindi umunlad ang bayan sa mga tulad mo, ako nga babae nagabroad para makatulong sa pamilya at sa bayan, nagsusulat man yung tao, may laman naman, at para sa bayan, ikaw?ano naman ang naisulat mo?
puno ka ng inggit at pamemersonal,mahiya ka naman kabayan.

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Re: Nagaakusa ka mahiya ka naman

by ramon (no login)

hahhahahahahhaha.

Posted on Jan 24, 2007, 9:45 AM
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Re: Nagaakusa ka mahiya ka naman

by atake (no login)

Hindi ko alam na nag trabahao ka sa abroad. You are Gloria's hero. Nakakatulong ka sa economy ni arrovo. You are close to aronillo. Is this a crush feeling or you are in love really? Watch out.
Bata ka yata para ma-in love kay ronillo. Matanda na yata siya para sa iyo...ikaw rin..

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so what?

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so what kung mainlove yung tao sa kanya?anong paki mo?
bakit ba naghihimutok ka?eh kung sa kagaya mo rin lang na
epal,di kay Ronillo na lang,say mo?

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Re: so what?

by diar (no login)

Bakit ka red? Huwag mo ng idamay si ronillo. Tahimik na yong tao.

Posted on Feb 8, 2007, 10:29 AM
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Pacquiao to enter into POLITICS. :-D

by (no login)

Kawawa nga naman talaga ang Pinoy! :D

Lunes, Pebrero 5, 2007 - Bandila
'Pacman' sasabak na rin sa pulitika

"Kinumpirma na ni People's Champ Manny Pacquiao na buo na ang kanyang desisyong tumakbo sa darating na halalan.

Si Pacquiao ay tatakbo sa ilalim ng partido ni pangulong Arroyo na KAMPI at hindi Lakas tulad ng naunang napaulat.

Ito umano ay taliwas sa naunang ulat na kasama si "Pacman" sa ticket ng Lakas-CMD sa General Santos City.

Gayunman, hindi pa alam ni Pacquiao kung anong posisyon ang kanyang tatakbuhan sa lungsod. "



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The Filipino masses' ability to demonstrate their own brand of tyranny has often been felt in national elections. Now it is being channeled through their civilian representatives. It is easy to foresee that someday in the future (if it is not already happending) the sewage and garbage routinely dumped by Manila's squatters into our rivers and stormdrains will eventually seep into the water supply of the rich. But it is more difficult to foresee just how much of a more potent weapon democracy becomes as the masses get better at wielding it. The hordes of showbiz personalties already infesting the Philippine Government it seems is but a small sample of the degree by which democracy can be perverted.
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hi hi hi...

by (no login)

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Masturbative humor

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Sige tumawa ka sa sarili mong istorya.

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Re: Masturbative humor

by TARANTADO KA (no login)

ASO!!!

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Re: Masturbative humor

by tanga (no login)

maysalsal ka na lang. oggoy..

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Re: Masturbative humor

by yabanka (no login)

Mayabang kang talaga emel abarto. si Benigno ay di gaya mo. MAYABANG KA!!!

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preety woman

by (no login)

bbbbbb

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Re: preety woman

by bad air (no login)

Watch up your spelling vijay, lemuel g. abarte (samuel g. abartebolate will insult you.)

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Ay, naku, bogaw ka pala

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Nababasa naman sa spelling mo.

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Re: Ay, naku, bogaw ka pala

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ASO!!!

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The Issue of Secularism for a State Like the Philippines

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

http://www.visayandailystar.com/2007/February/01//topstory1.htm

Any religious group has no right to use the force of law to deliver their beliefs to a nation.

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Re: The Issue of Secularism for a State Like the Philippines

by raid (no login)

Why don't you just play VISSOR SLUT MACHINE PARA DUMAMI ANG IYONG LAHI. wALA KANG ALAM SA SECULARISM. STOP YOUR FREEZING BRAIN.

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Your mind is full of muck

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

This is all you have, scum.

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Re: Your mind is full of muck

by raid (no login)

You mind is full of dirt and mucking too. You better behave your mentality so others behave...

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I have no qualms regarding your freedom to write

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Certainly, knowing people regard you in an understatement. Courtesy and modesty require letting another incomprehend their gauche ways.

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Re: I have no qualms regarding your freedom to write

by raid (no login)

You have sick mind the way you write and I don't care. Take a walk...

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I dont think so...do you?

by CoeL (no login)

I am not sure how much threat is secular humanism among Filipinos in the Philippines. If such exist then it will compete for the hearts and minds of the Filipinos. As we can see it in the western world, its ideas and beliefs are diametrically opposite to that of Christianity.

I think you missed the real issues regarding this abortionist....correct me if I am wrong. It is very apparent she transgressed the Devine Law and violated the practice of medicine left to the trained and license physicians to perform.

The Good Old Book does not specifically mention about abortion but the doctrines
and beliefs of most Protestant churches and Roman Catholics are based on the fifth commandments: “Thou shalt not kill,” because human a life belongs to God and He alone has the right to decide when one’s time is up. If the abortionist is a Roman Catholic, the Church has the right to imposed its doctrinal laws. And, as this abortionist is not medically trained to practice her trade thus endangering her “patients”, the government has the right to run after her. I am not a Catholic, but I would presume that the Church being an iglesia has a concience by itself and knowing what is happening, is obligated morally and spiritually to divulge some information to stop her. With this in mind, I do not see any semblance of secularism.


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Is the State religious?

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

This is the question I pose. Should any church enforce their beliefs on society using police power?

Spain began with a wish of the Catholic Kings that everyone be a Catholic and the police enforced this wish.

Abortion should not be in our books because the issue of abortion is not decided by the Bible.

Should your conscience ask a policeman to enforce it on another?

The point is that a majority have their conscience and they impose that morality on others. Fine. But when the police is asked to enforce that on others, it is a disaster for the Philippines. This is only the first stage of a test by any religious power or group to dictate their beliefs using the force of law.

Will religion be united with the State again in the Philippines as it was then in Spain?

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Thin gray line....

by CoeL (no login)

The Philippines was founded by Roman Catholic Spain and
the United States handed down to us a constitution based
on Judeo-Christian doctrines and beliefs with a very thin
gray line that separates the church and the state.

At some point the state can be religious in a very limited way
given the fact that the government itself is for and by the
people who are pious and religious.

Old Spain was not democratic...present day Philippines
has outlive its past.


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The State is religious

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Unbelievers do not have a distinction of what is religious and what is secular.

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Re: The State is religious

by beleiver (no login)

You are unbeleiver then. Here is my fart for you!!!

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Yes, they do not have a clue......

by CoeL. (no login)

As the Book of Judges recounts about Israel:
When "every one did what was right in his sight",
caused them one of the bloodiest eras of the Jewish
history because were guided by the spirit of wrong
realm rather than by the God of Abraham.

Secular humanism sprouted from the period of
Enlightenment rooted during the 18th century.
The core of its beliefs is the ideology of welfare
liberalism that depends more and seek to solve problems
through social engineering.....this how Europe stagnated
and you can see how NAmerica is affected....it is eroding
our faith in God, our love and patriotism and our nationalistic
fervor for our country.

Messianic socialissm with its dialectical materialism is one
of the more poisonous fruits of their movement........

Secularism could a religion.

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The issue that divides us

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Where do we draw the line between religion and church and the State?



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"......church and state"

by CoeL (no login)

The Church represents a religion...let's concentrate
on the issue of Church and state separation. This is an
issue that had embroiled the founding fathers of the
this country when they framed and wrote the constitution.
And, still is.

I believe all of us are fully aware that in our political
heritage as well that of our christian heritage, there is a
difference between the state and the Church. It is not the
responsibility nor the task of the Church to tell the president
how to govern or make the government establish a religious preference.

However, as christian, either a Catholic or Protestant, we have to
remember that the state and Church are under God....in essence that
the voice of the people is the voice of God. The state is not sovereign...
its the people and God who is the authority.

The state do not have that right nor previlege to do wrong...if they do,
the people and the church have the right to stand for their rights.

Check it out: " Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities.
For there is no authority except from God and the authorities
that exist are appointed by God....for rulers are not a terror
to good works, but to evil." Romans 13:1,3

This where I stand on this issue.



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The State has every individual

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

This includes everyone. One individual or church must not put their belief as a matter for the State to observe nor for others to follow.

The church is under God and the state is under God. Therefore the church stands before God and the state stands before God. These are entirely different majesteriums, don't you think? For this, the church must not impinge into the rights and prerogatives of the state nor the state impinge into the rights and prerogatives of any church.

What should be then the basis for say, the prosecution of pedophiles? That is a valid function under the state. How about the insistence of the state to allow gays to adopt kids? Should the state conduct marriages within the model of any religious organization? Once upon a time, marriages in ancient Rome had the semblance of a local community phenomenon as observed in common culture and nothing more unlike what we have today as a legal document.

We need the ground rules for observance that lay the framework for separation of church and state. Personally, I do not consider that churches should receive any form of tax money or subsidy. Marriage should be cultural and any church should not dictate how couples should live together nor state whatever regarding dissolution or annullment of marriages. This is a matter of conscience between two consenting parties and in a way affected by culture and norms in that community.

Just to broaden the framework of this issue.




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Re: Is the State religious?

by i don't think so (no login)

In the Philipines the states is always corrupt and no devotion of faith.Just like you, maybe you have corrupt mind you are hidding...

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Re: The Issue of Secularism for a State Like the Philippines

by art (no login)

All the words you are using are austistic.Ha! ha! ha!

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Psst... Guess who's laughing all the way to the bank...

by (no login)

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Dark and Cruel world of war

by (no login)

In the event of an all out war,plenty especially the weak will suffer and none will be above the others except those who knows how to pull a trigger can survive an environment of total confusion.
Presence of mind and analysis of any situation given
is a must,in any armed encounter with all sort of enemy.
And nuclear war is not the same two wars that passed.
How ever there is an advantage to it,those who are pretending to be tough will be revealed and those who are
weak but able to carry their national pride in their weak
shouders will stand out.
But did we ever wonder?is our nation ready for such
a blessfull event?Ok we can fight it out here in Saudi
but with what?how about those who cant?we can kill for
the sake of surviving and taking their arms to protect ourselves after all M16 is so easy to use.
How ever one must consider all avenues first inorder
to go to war,and if peace will be achieve with such lets go and get on with it, rather than let this world grows worst as days passes,
We are trained in the art of jungle warfare in Camp
Capinpin by Afptracom,school for basic soldiery and
survival advance course by the special warfare group
We are the cream of the crop for enlisted personnel
college grad that went into military, but what will it do us?If we remain in a rotten system,
In an event of such,you can rest assure that all women and children must go first and
We will be the last men out, if theres a way?
If none then, all hell must break loose and we will
fight it out with guts and tears,
May allah never allows it to happen but if it will
i must be thankful because cleansing must be done to remove the pretenders and let the nature of man stands.

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Israel should declare war on Iran.

by Napanice (no login)

LA Times

Israel sounds alarm on Iran's nuclear efforts
The Jewish state warns of a second Holocaust if nations fail to prevent Tehran from acquiring the bomb.
By Richard Boudreaux, Times Staff Writer
February 7, 2007

JERUSALEM — Israeli leaders rarely invoke the Holocaust in the face of enemies. The Jewish homeland founded after Adolf Hitler's genocide has, for the last generation, felt secure enough to fight its many battles with little or no help.

But the specter of a nuclear-armed Iran has rattled Israel's self-confidence. Its politicians and generals warn of a "second Holocaust" if, as in the 1930s, the world stands by while a heavily armed nation declares war against the Jews.

Spelling out that scenario, Israeli officials have begun an unusually open campaign to muster international political and economic pressures against Iran. They warn that time is growing short and hint that they will resort to force if those pressures fail to prevent Iran's development of an atomic weapon.

Israeli leaders fear that an Iranian bomb would undermine their nation's security even if Tehran never detonated it. That Israel has its own nuclear arsenal would not counteract the psychological and strategic blow, they believe.

Israel began secretly preparing in the early 1990s for a possible air raid on Iran's then-nascent nuclear facilities and has been making oblique public statements about such planning for three years.


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Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone?

by Napanice (no login)

CNN

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The Federal Reserve sent record payouts of more than $4 billion in cash to Baghdad on giant pallets aboard military planes shortly before the United States gave control back to Iraqis, lawmakers said Tuesday.

The money, which had been held by the United States, came from Iraqi oil exports, surplus dollars from the U.N.-run oil-for-food program and frozen assets belonging to the ousted Saddam Hussein regime.

Bills weighing a total of 363 tons were loaded onto military aircraft in the largest cash shipments ever made by the Federal Reserve, said Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. (Watch Democrats put the former top U.S. official in Iraq on the spot )

"Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone? But that's exactly what our government did," the California Democrat said during a hearing reviewing possible waste, fraud and abuse of funds in Iraq.

On December 12, 2003, $1.5 billion was shipped to Iraq, initially "the largest pay out of U.S. currency in Fed history," according to an e-mail cited by committee members.

It was followed by more than $2.4 billion on June 22, 2004, and $1.6 billion three days later. The CPA turned over sovereignty on June 30.


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MEXICAN TOURISM

by Blackjack (no login)

GUARANTEED! Maybe Racist Though?


http://www.kerman94.com/mexicotourism.html


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I love Mexico!

by amigo sapata (no login)

I have been to Mexico and I love it. In fact, I have lots of collections of cactus plants (alive)specially the saguaro. ARIBA!!!

Amigo

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Do it now!! Junk Pinoy culture and PROSPER!!! :-D

by (no login)

The best thing we could do as expats is to impart on our relatives and friends back home -- and our kids as well -- what we have learned working and living in the advanced societies we live in.

Our politicians merely reflect the people they govern. As our elections get more fair and honest, the reflection gets more accurate. We have to admit it. The quality of governance Pinoys get merely reflect their choices during elections.

We who have been exposed to the excellent ways of doing things in the West and East Asia need to impart this on our society. Political solutions have pretty much yielded ZERO RESULTS. It's time we look at the very character of our people and society:

Replace "pwede na" with "excellence".
Replace "mamaya na" with "right now!"
Replace personality politics with platform/issues-based politics.
Replace no-results Tagalog with world-class English-based instruction. Replace victim mentality with self reliance.
Replace hollow-headed jocularity with serious evaluation and critical thought.
Replace fiesta-mentality with frugality and simplicity.
Replace lamon-mentality with moderation.

We need a radical overhaul of our cultural and philosophical foundations in order to develop a character that is able to hold our leaders and ourselves to account and focus on results rather than ocho-ocho contests.




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It's not that easy

by ramon (no login)

It's not that easy to change or replace all the things you want. Filipinos are not all extremely bright or intelligent to do to replace for fthe betterment of our society. You have very good ideas fine. To change now or replace now--IMPOSSIBLE--It will take awhile to see result to experiednce it. You might not even see the result in your life time if there are.

ramon

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So...you want change, pronto!

by CoeL (no login)

You trashed and made fun of the Filipinos and now you command
them to "junk Pinoy culture and PROSPER". Why, are you so prosperous
enough to look down at them through your nose? You have a problem, dude!

You sound so desperate, as if the sky is falling....are your revenues
falling because no one listens to you....the 99% of the Filipinos back
home you called "wretch" meaning they are unfortunate, miserable or worse,
despicable....dont give hoot to what you say....they know such a tawdry
claim is cominng from the vileness of one man.

You want to teach but you lack the pedagogic skills and now you want to lead
but you dont know how...you are wretch than most Filipinos! Remember, you belong
to the 1% corrupt and deprave segment of that society.

Shape up, dude.....you have a lot to learn from your negative and tangential attitude
to a positive and productive direction!





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Re: So...you want change, pronto!

by raid (no login)

Give the man a break dude. You are pinoy too!!!

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I did.....

by CoeL (no login)

Read my last paragraph....I want him to improve
to be effective but I used his style to tell him.

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Really?

by (no login)

"You want to teach but you lack the pedagogic skills and now you want to lead
but you dont know how...you are wretch than most Filipinos! Remember, you belong
to the 1% corrupt and deprave segment of that society."

Tsk tsk, Mr. Coel, making assumptions about cute little moi? And then building an entire argument on the basis of such shaky assumptions?

Tsk tsk tsk.

You'll just have to keep guessing on that one while I rake in my revenues.

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so soon to forget, dude......?

by CoeL (no login)

Let me remind you...you posted jan 22/07;


Tough luck, mate.
by benign0 (no login)

"Too bad all you can dish out are old-style self-righteous judgmental hogwash.

As if the wretched of Pinoy society (all 99% of them) are any better off after your "moving" message.


ha ha!"

I dont guess, dude, you are telling us! Read your previous posts.....since 99%(?) of the Filipinos are wretched......poor Pinoys being exploited again.....Sure, dude...your website exist by trashing the Pinoys. Where is proof for your 99% "wretched" Pinoys?

Dont sweat it out dude...just come out honest and clean!



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guess again...

by (no login)

Tsk tsk. I was referring to your line about me being part of the 1% corrupt and depraved.

But you can be excused for that because I somehow get the feeling that you don't like me anyhows. :D

And as to my statement about Pinoys being a wretched lot, well, I do believe it to be true.

ha ha!




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Guess? simple deduction, dude!

by CoeL (no login)

99% of the Filipino society is "wretched", you claimed, ( where is your proof)
so what's the 1%? Are they holier than thou, deprave or who takes advantage of
the 99%? And, you are one of them, arent you? Some makes a living out of the miseries
of others and some, too, makes a career out of it!

Scroll down a year or two and read your portrayal of the Filipinos. The pattern of your self-destructive portrayal of the present day Filipinos, 99% of them as you recently claimed, falls on the borderline of verbal abuse and racism only known to have existed during our colonial days caused by a few 1%.

ha ha ha ha...caught in the quagmire of your self-indulgence. Think well, Moy.



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of course.

by (no login)

Depends on your definition of "wretched".

I define wretched as being deprived of any capability to comprehend the lack of any hope that the Philippines will prosper unless fundamental change is seen.

By that definition, count yourself as part of the wretched majority.




ha ha!!!




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Get Real, dude......

by CoeL (no login)

you're not Webster...your definition is an escape clause!

This just shows you are trapped in your narrow vision and
small world. Read more, dude and learn carefully what to say.
You are simply a victim of a biblical truism: "out of the abundance
of the heart the mouth speaketh."

ha ha ha esta bien, Moy!

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Don't use your feelings, dude....

by CoeL (no login)

Think!

I am posting this separately because I dont like to get involve in how you feel about
my disagreement with you. It is not a matter of liking or disliking you...it is your
song, dude, that matters. As I said previously...this is all talk, talk and talk. I can
not dislike nor hate you...I dont know personally and the beauty about all these...is that
we are faceless...kabitz?

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Ahhh, a time for insults

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Your comment:
The best thing we could do as expats is to impart on our relatives and friends back home -- and our kids as well -- what we have learned working and living in the advanced societies we live in.

My reply:
Ahh, you have kids, the ones you posted in that picture with pot bellies. What a pity, you post your kids as example of culture. Put this in your head, before you change others, change your kids first.

Advanced society? You assume again that being physically present in an advanced society makes you advanced, too. What a foolish assumption. You are a Filipino by assertion and that's what you are, anywhere, man. I'll bet you, you don't even know what an advanced society is.

Your comments:
Our politicians merely reflect the people they govern. As our elections get more fair and honest, the reflection gets more accurate. We have to admit it. The quality of governance Pinoys get merely reflect their choices during elections.

My Reply:
Foolish statement. Our politicians reflect only themselves and not the Filipino people. Our elections are not fair and honest. Anyway, there is no such thing as "get more fair and honest." Either it is fair and honest, or it is not. What a confusing bit of dualism you have. You do not understand philosophy.

Your comments:
We who have been exposed to the excellent ways of doing things in the West and East Asia need to impart this on our society. Political solutions have pretty much yielded ZERO RESULTS. It's time we look at the very character of our people and society:

My Reply:
Ahhh, once again you assume that West and East Asia have excellent ways. What a foolish statement. Have you found the word "forgiveness" in the society you live? Or, do you not think that when they see you, they politely hate you because you rob them of jobs that should go to their own people? Are you referring to their solutions? You are confused again because your statement is nonreferential. This is the kind of writing that befuddles those who read your rant. Because you have a cloudy mind. You are the confused fellow, not us.

Your comments:
Replace "pwede na" with "excellence".

My Reply:
Bolderdash. There is more "puede na" in the society you live than in the Philippines. Girls in the country you live consent to free sex, unlike in the Philippines.

Your comments:
Replace "mamaya na" with "right now!"

My Reply:
Malarkey. Girls in the Philippines defer sex while in your place, they are like fleas.

Your comments:
Replace personality politics with platform/issues-based politics.

My Reply:
Prove to me. What country? Cite it, or are you afraid to tell us what country is that? Tell the world and then you will be deported.

Your comments:
Replace no-results Tagalog with world-class English-based instruction. Replace victim mentality with self reliance.

My Reply:
Leave Tagalog out of this. You have a red herring fallacy. Stupid argument. English? We are already the number 1 call center country in the world, we have outpaced India. So, what's your issue with the English of the Filipinos and their Tagalog language?

Victim mentality? Why are you a victim? Check your lifestyle in the place you stay and find out that you are self-reliant. I'll bet you, you wash your own clothes because you are self-reliant.

Your comments:
Replace hollow-headed jocularity with serious evaluation and critical thought.

My Reply:
Critical thought? You don't have one. Benigno, you cannot even start the change in yourself, why tell us?

Your comments:
Replace fiesta-mentality with frugality and simplicity.

My Reply:
What's wrong with enjoying one's life? You cannot carry your money to the grave.

Your comment:
Replace lamon-mentality with moderation.

My Reply:
I am not sure why you are so diet conscious. You have an obesity problem? Haven't you talk about the poverty of Filipino and their lack of food?

Your comment:
We need a radical overhaul of our cultural and philosophical foundations in order to develop a character that is able to hold our leaders and ourselves to account and focus on results rather than ocho-ocho contests.

My Reply:
You do not understand Filipino culture. You have no philosophy. We are already in the postmodern era and still you talk about foundationalism. You are 500 years behind, Benigno. You are a charlatan about your pretensions. You are ignorant about your claims. You are the Filipino who is full of hot-air. Hollow, pretentious and good for nothing.

Another stupid comment about results and ocho-ocho. Results are results. Ocho-ocho is ocho-ocho. Business is business, pleasure is pleasure. I think you are so dumb about your assumptions of categories.

THE FLIPINO YOU CRITICIZE IS THE FILIPINO YOU SEE IN THE MIRROR.



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ha ha! Kawawa ka naman...

by (no login)

A mind clouded by fundamentalist thought is an imprisoned mind indeed.

Tough luck!

ha ha!




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Re: ha ha! Kawawa ka naman...

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Get him Benigno!!!

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Benigno, you cannot rebutt my statements nor could you prove your allegations

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

You are just passing air. Nilalangaw ang takilya mo. Umuwi ka na, turuan mo ang mga anak mo. Alam naman namin na nagtitiis ka diyan sa kalungkutan. Pero nilululon mo ang kasiphayuan at hiya mo dahil ayaw nilang isipin na sa iyong pagpupunyagi, uuwi ka na malas at gaya ng dati, maralita.

Sayang ang iyong mga mithiin sa buhay, dahil sa mabigat na ang trabaho mo, pinapasan mo pa ang buong mundo. Palagay ko, ikaw ay isang dakilang martir.

Hayaan mo, pag inilibing ka, ilalagay ka namin sa libingan ng mga bigong bayani.

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Re: Ahhh, a time for insults

by raid (no login)

What a very long story you wrote. Inantok ako ng husto...

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What do you impart to your kids?

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

You criticize an aspect of Filipino life, change yourself first.

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Catholic Mass on the Internet

by Napanice (no login)

For the invalid, the sick and the old. Here's a chance to watch the mass in your own room, just clik on the link.

http://www.themass.com/default1024.htm

Nap


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Internet Mass has no salvific significance

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

Is the physical presence of Christ in the Eucharist denotes a physical presence of the participant? Internet Mass is virtual, therefore the efficacy of the mass has no bearing in an electronic medium. Therefore, no salvation for those who cannot be physically present.

Note that both Protestants and Catholics agree on the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist and the participant.

There is therefore no effect for the dead to offer mass as well.

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Before Christ, there was no mass at all.

by Napanice (no login)

Therefore no salvation since Christ did not exist to save them, right? How did God treat those who sinned before the death of Christ?

Don't tell me about the agreement between sects about the mass, just point out the evidence that physical presence is mandated by God.

Nap


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It is your mass, now prove that it is

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

It is not an Internet mass and never will be. One cannot equate salvation with internet mass. I am talking about real presence.



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Re: Internet Mass has no salvific significance

by ramonito (no login)

Who are you to say no salvification ? Are you biblical/religionist scholar! Prove it.

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Do you know your faith?

by Lemuel G. Abarte (no login)

This matter does not concern you, perhaps.

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