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...a very lightly & loosely moderated on or off-topic public discussion between cryonics members or between cryonicists & the public or the media & others.

Features: Off-topic with respect to cryonics okay. Proviso: The subset of off-topics of general interest to cryonicists works best. Way off-topic topics work best in a linked personal blog. No log-in needed. Instant posting-- no approvals needed. N54 logged in users may revise their own posts. Occasional thread locking to limit excessive thread length. No IPs displayed. Anonymous posting okay but polite pseudonyms preferred. Occasionally linked to CryoNet. Good cryonics-on-topic ideas can be posted at Cryonics Observer, linked at top of every page here. EMAIL ME if there are any problems. Thanks.

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looks like "phil" chickened out again. Cluck cluck, phil, ya big chicken VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - unperson philossifer on Sep 29, 2009

Boy Is This Place Dead VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Non E. Moose on Feb 21, 2005

The latest version of Cafe is Cryonaut 2005. - Rick Potvin on Feb 27, 2005

Even Deader than Here - Non E. Moose on Mar 16, 2005

No point. - PhilOssifur on Oct 14, 2006

Yo Rick It's Midnight Do You Know Where Your Forums Are? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Finance Department on May 2, 2005

does't mater. - PhilOssifur on Oct 14, 2006

Interview VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - journaliste on May 24, 2005

I cannot help here. - PhilOssifur on Oct 14, 2006

CLOSURE-- Why was this forum closed for a time? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - PhilOssifur on Oct 13, 2006

test VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

I'm looking for Larry Johnson's posts-- I think this is the forum he posted in-- not Round - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

Here's an interesting conversation I had with Bobby Jo - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

Here's where I introduced CryoDisc-- later called CryoTalk-- - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

Here's where somebody says Lobstercan Larry is a threat to cryonics-- the biggest. - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

Here's where Joe Waynick was participating-- so SD this is the place-- Cafe-- - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

Here's where Tanya participates. - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

Freeted.com is "under construction" but basically gone. - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

SUMMARY-- Ok my point is, SD, THIS is the place you meant. I can't find Larry yet but will - PhilOssifur on Oct 10, 2006

SD and FD do not acknowledge that this is the key forum. - PhilOssifur on Oct 13, 2006

Anger Management VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Finance Department on May 28, 2005

http://trixieteen.shawnsporn.com/ - Trixie Teen on Aug 12, 2005

Emails have been "nulled" out at ScienceCare.org VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick on May 17, 2004

No problem - Photon on May 17, 2004

Impossible. - Rick on May 17, 2004

Okay, it's still null for me... - Rick on May 17, 2004

Do they know you? - Anonymous on May 17, 2004

That's not concievable. - Rick on May 18, 2004

Emails nulled - Harry on Jan 17, 2005

I'll try that. - Rick on Jan 29, 2005

Re: Emails have been "nulled" out at ScienceCare.org - Anonymous on Apr 18, 2005

Paul Pagnato willn't stop.... VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Maniac on PAUL PUGNATO on Apr 15, 2004

Pugnatious Pugnato didn't even respond to my polite emails. - Rick on Apr 15, 2004

I've meet Paul before... - Maniac on Apr 15, 2004

But in my view, Alcor News "is" critical. - Rick on Apr 15, 2004

Interesting - Observer on Feb 21, 2005

Chicago Cryoenthusist VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Dirty Cricket on Dec 22, 2004

so what happened to the rest of your forums? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - bull goose looney on Oct 4, 2004

Mark Plus convinced of Peak Oil hoax despite lots of evidence against it. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick on Sep 5, 2004

IP identifiers now on-- recent poster of scat messages will be banned. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [BLOCKING IP] on Sep 5, 2004

Scat porn posts appeared coincidentally with Group of 6 posts on EO - Rick on Sep 5, 2004

Arizona Exerpt VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Anonymous on Sep 4, 2004

Alcor's dismissal of request for DoG by nephews denied by Arizona Court VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - TWrelated on Sep 3, 2004

Thanks for that update. - Rick on Sep 3, 2004

Re: Thanks for that update. - Sam on Sep 3, 2004

you wish - Nada on Sep 4, 2004

Judge rules Alcor must prove Ted Williams wanted his head frozen - Anonymous on Sep 3, 2004

Paul & Kitty announce they want to be paid for their advice. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [WAKFER] on Aug 29, 2004

They were always supposed to be paid... - Jonathan Hinek on Sep 1, 2004

They ought to have a�free teaser board and then ask for payment to go further. - Rick on Sep 1, 2004

What did one frozen head say to the other frozen head? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Anonymous on Aug 26, 2004

What did one vitrified head say to the other vitrified head? - Jonathan Hinek on Sep 1, 2004

Ha ha. What did the vitrified head say to the frozen head? - Rick on Sep 1, 2004

My off-topic ideas, here, will attempt to stay confined to generally acceptable off-topic VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [OFF-TOPIC: acceptable] on Aug 30, 2004

Because we're not neccessarily confined to cryonics here, I'll rename this area Cryonaut C - Rick on Aug 30, 2004

Cryonet is more off-topic, thought to be of interest to cryonicists, than on-topic. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [CRYONET] on Aug 30, 2004

Someone on Extropy is ridiculing the idea of the middle class. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [MIDDLE CLASS] on Aug 28, 2004

Natasha is directing attention to Fukuyama's labelling TH as most dangerous idea. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [FUKUYAMA on TRANSHUMANISM] on Aug 27, 2004

Punta Gorda Florida death count analysis begins here. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick on Aug 20, 2004

The number missing is critical. - Rick on Aug 21, 2004

Large death toll successfully covered up, in my view. - Rick on Aug 27, 2004

Here's a study that shows that people derive pleasure from revenge (punishing norm violato VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [REVENGE HARD-WIRED] on Aug 27, 2004

Put a minus sign in front of Mark Plus's peak oil arguments. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [MARK PLUS'S PEAK OIL HOAX] on Aug 26, 2004

Re: Put a minus sign in front of Mark Plus's peak oil arguments. - Anonymous on Aug 26, 2004

I don't think he'll visit EO or here on the oil matter because... - Rick on Aug 26, 2004

rickbot -LaRouche - texas cryo on Aug 27, 2004

No, you can't say that. - Rick on Aug 27, 2004

Kubler Ross herself just experience death: Her stages of grief didn't include cryonics. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [KUBLER ROSS] on Aug 26, 2004

Name Calling on EO not nice, Rick VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - DrDave on Aug 26, 2004

Okay, thanks for the tip. I'll take it back. - Rick on Aug 26, 2004

What to cryonics people eat for breakfast? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Anonymous on Aug 26, 2004

From here to forever. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [SHORT STORY] on Aug 26, 2004

The key to good off topic topics is that the off topic still has to be of interest to... VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [OFF TOPIC] on Aug 25, 2004

If the off-topic topic is not of generally agreed interest to the on-topic audience... - Rick on Aug 25, 2004

Gene doping seems to be hitting the news lately, with Olympics. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick on Aug 25, 2004

Time mag has cover story about living to 100. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick on Aug 25, 2004

What are the main general news sources that cryonicists use? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [NEWS] on Aug 21, 2004

The ultimate off-topic forum is a personal blog. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [BLOGS] on Aug 21, 2004

I'll be checking messages here more often than EO VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick on Aug 20, 2004

I'll try to review some policies in this thread. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [POLICIES] on Aug 10, 2004

No log-in and no approval needed-- so instant posting and very loose control. - Rick on Aug 10, 2004

reply - Anonymous on Aug 15, 2004

There is no solution really. - Rick on Aug 15, 2004

C. Cafe Up AgaiN???!!!!! - Anonymous on Aug 15, 2004

Yup. - Rick on Aug 15, 2004

disabled individuals? - Brian on Aug 15, 2004

As increasingly we become masters of the universe, revival of a million cryanauts will... - Rick on Aug 15, 2004

Re: As increasingly we become masters of the universe, revival of a million cryanauts will... - Brian on Aug 15, 2004

It may very well turn out that most people reject cryonics due to afterlife beliefs - Rick on Aug 15, 2004

Re: It may very well turn out that most people reject cryonics due to afterlife beliefs - Brian on Aug 15, 2004

Re: It may very well turn out that most people reject cryonics due to afterlife beliefs - Brian on Aug 16, 2004

Who will return - Photon on Aug 17, 2004

Re: Who will return - Brian on Aug 17, 2004

There's something to be said for instant posting rather than approval-needed VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [INSTANT POSTING] on Aug 15, 2004

Glad to hear it, Rick. - Jonathan Hinek on Aug 16, 2004

I have my own Cryonics Observer to "control" - Rick on Aug 16, 2004

We can construct survey modules-- but what is a good survey question? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [SURVEYS] on Aug 15, 2004

Re: We can construct survey modules-- but what is a good survey question? - Brian on Aug 15, 2004

A survey question has to be of the form... - Rick on Aug 15, 2004

Re: A survey question has to be of the form... - Brian on Aug 15, 2004

Okay then what are the possible pre-selected answers going to be? - Rick on Aug 15, 2004

survey - Anonymous on Aug 16, 2004

Re: Okay then what are the possible pre-selected answers going to be? - Brian on Aug 16, 2004

Is it just me, or am I sensing a cold wind blowing from the Cryonics mag dept. at Alcor? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [ALCOR: Cryonics magazine] on Aug 15, 2004

Brian, this forum began as off-topic, but ended up more on-topic than Cryonet. So... VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [INTERVIEW BRIAN] on Aug 15, 2004

Arizona Republic is pushing to unseal Alcor's records. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [LAWSUITS] on Jul 17, 2004

Yes, it is a legal lawsuit - Anonymous on Jul 17, 2004

Who does the AZ Republic think they are? - Rick on Jul 17, 2004

Freedom of the Press - Anonymous on Jul 18, 2004

Freedom of the Press? - anonymous on Jul 18, 2004

public records - anon on Jul 19, 2004

private records - anonymous on Jul 19, 2004

Privacy of anything? - Rick on Jul 20, 2004

No exaggeration - anonymous on Jul 20, 2004

overstating the issue - anon on Jul 21, 2004

No overstatement - anonymous on Jul 22, 2004

Ted Williams doesn't count as a famous cryonaut because... VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [SQUANDERED POTENTIAL] on Jul 20, 2004

Walt Disney expressed more interest in cryonics, publicly, than Ted Williams. - Rick on Jul 20, 2004

Playboy party at the Creekside lodge? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Troy Powers on Jul 19, 2004

Introduce yourself Troy, and what's your position on Ted Williams? - Rick on Jul 19, 2004

Hey, bro, what you wanted to know about me - Troy Powers on Jul 19, 2004

That's funny stuff. - Rick on Jul 19, 2004

ha ha - Texas Cryo on Jul 20, 2004

Playboy party - anonymous on Jul 19, 2004

Looking for updates from on Alcor on Ted Williams? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [ALCOR NEWS] on Jul 19, 2004

Incredibly, Dr. Lemler is quoted talking about Ted & publicity VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [LEMLER] on Jul 10, 2004

Lemler - Anonymous on Jul 17, 2004

Please don't post naked links-- say something. - Rick on Jul 17, 2004

Rick... - Anonymous on Jul 17, 2004

Thanks... - Rick on Jul 18, 2004

Why are you accepting this so-called quote... - Jonathan Hinek on Jul 19, 2004

I don't know... - Rick on Jul 19, 2004

Society for Universal Immortalism VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Tripper McCarthy [TRIPPER'S COMMENT ON TW] on Jul 14, 2004

Gee, that's real nice Tripper but what is your comment on... - Rick on Jul 14, 2004

Sorry Rick - Tripper McCarthy on Jul 15, 2004

Okay, that's nice too-- but what is your position on Ted? - Rick on Jul 15, 2004

No comment from Tripper on Ted. - Rick on Jul 16, 2004

Get a life Rick - Anonymous on Jul 16, 2004

Dumb stupid rambling little me. - Rick on Jul 16, 2004

Second answer: Try to stay on topic. - Rick on Jul 17, 2004

Third answer: Get a name, anonymous. - Rick on Jul 17, 2004

Are the details of the TW preservertion the business of cryonicists-- or not? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [BUSINESS] on Jul 11, 2004

America - anon on Jul 12, 2004

Freedom of Speech - Anonymous on Jul 12, 2004

I wrote a song about Ted - Rick on Jul 12, 2004

please upload your song to the net - texas cryo on Jul 15, 2004

Webtv - Rick on Jul 16, 2004

Just for fun - TWrelated on Jul 16, 2004

Great! - Rick on Jul 16, 2004

Is TW's estate & executor of estate a permanent entity now? Or does it dissolve sometime? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [ESTATE] on Jul 16, 2004

My understanding - TWrelated on Jul 16, 2004

I wonder if the estate execs think Ted could someday be reanimated? - Rick on Jul 16, 2004

I just read an article about the Steinbeck estate - TWrelated on Jul 16, 2004

If Ted's head was vitrified, was it also stored at intermediate (optimal) temp? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [INTERMEDIATE TEMP STORAGE] on Jul 16, 2004

Fascinating - TWrelated on Jul 16, 2004

Yes, it's spelled that way-- they other way is... - Rick on Jul 16, 2004

How good is Ted's "informed consent" when JH had "power of attourney"? VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [INFORMED CONSENT] on Jul 15, 2004

My understanding - TWrelated on Jul 15, 2004

This is an interesting relevent point. - Rick on Jul 15, 2004

Power of Attorney is irrelevant - Anonymous on Jul 15, 2004

That's a key item then. - Rick on Jul 16, 2004

Montville writes that the neuroseparation was a mistake. VIEW ENTIRE THREAD-- easier to read. - Rick [MISTAKEN NEUROSEPARATION] on Jul 10, 2004

mistake it was - anon on Jul 12, 2004

CYA-- it took me 5 seconds to get that. - Rick on Jul 12, 2004

CYA - anon on Jul 13, 2004

The birth of another urban legend? - anonymous on Jul 13, 2004

Tedious HA - Anonymous on Jul 13, 2004

Health Care Cost Savings - anonymous on Jul 14, 2004

Re: Health Care Cost Savings - Anonymous on Jul 14, 2004