rick56 says.... how is it concievable that a man like dave-- would admit to photo fakery in a fund raising? For me, there's a disconnect... a contradiction. You can't expect people to believe the person exists or that his illness exists if you don't have properly verified hospital and doctor information and real photos that investigative journalists can verify and follow up on. Kim's death certificate has never been publicly seen so as an amateur investigative journalist, I cannot verify there was a real kim or if kim was real, that she really died. How does the entire cryonics, transhuman and other communities let this go on without a showstopping challange to Dave and Alcor to give us info that proves their existence... and more to the point.. how is it possible for Dave to ADMIT the photos are fake... and yet continue to promote fundraising and NOT let the readers know the photos ARE composites... or apologize or retract said photos? This lack of ethical base is truly astounding to me.