With our new boobies we have a new concern.

Breast cancer.

Some men can and do get it and they are normal, everyday men, they don't have gynecomastia or anything close to it.

But us, here we are working hard, swallowing herbs everyday, 3 times a day TRYING to grow female breasts.
Now we have to treat our bodies (at least partially) as if we are normal, real women.
There is no difference between male and female breasts other than the body they are attached to.

We are now at just as much risk of developing breast cancer as any woman and we need to learn all about it, how to detect it, how to do self breast exams, etc.. Next time you hear something on the TV about breast health, you should stop and pay attention...

I thought of this when I ran across this article today.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/04/17/processed.meat.reut/index.html

Just something to think about.

Dip me in estrogen and throw me to the lesbians!

Ta Ta's! ( . )( . )

That article is interesting. What may be of interest is that the human race is carnivorous. It does mention grilling as a potential cause. However, a couple of thoughts. Our ancestors lived shorter lifespans. Visit any historical cemetery, and there are a lot of young dead people. A lot died from child birth too. But essentially they did not live as long. And if you go far back in our genealogy, perhaps several thousand years, I am sure we ate "raw" meat. Now todays meats are injected with steroids and such. All this is interesting. I recall an old St Elsewhere episode where Fiscus ponders about the young teens who have enormous breasts for their age. (Small hips, but LARGE breasts) He speculated "meat" and the chemicals they are injected with.

Another thought, which I may be wrong about. Eat all this meat and your estrogen levels rise, right? Then go into menopause and what happens? Your estrogen levels drop if I recall. This leaves you with a large vat of estrogen in your body? Maybe this is the trigger the cancer needs.

I've been reading the site of Dr John Lee a bit. It hasn't sunk in yet, but it seems like breast cancer can be reduced if you can track your hormone levels better for both men and women. A light went off! Perhaps we can bone up on estrogen but ONLY if its balanced with progesterone?? I don't think breast growth is the difference between the two, or is it??

Moonstruck, you are taking similar herbs as to what I want to take. Can you give us a primer on what the relationship between estrogen and progesterone is when undertaking male NBE? I think you have a far better grasp on it than I do. You are raising some good issues. I think you just need to tie it together. Male males can grow tits's and not have the breast cancer. I think its in the balance of hormones.


PS - I am almost certain the Progesterone Creme at Walmart that TB uses is the same as the one from Puritans Pride. Puritan Pride is MUCH cheaper. Also is Wild Yam creme a progesterone substitute??

Wild Yam is a LOT weaker than real progesterone though.


Good point in bringing up this subject Moonstruck.
In the part of the world where I live, it's illegal to feed animals hormones if they are going to become food or produce milk later on. Neither do we feed them antibiotics by routine.

Oh gosh! I don't know. I'm as green as anyone else here and far from an expert.
Like I said, I just read up, mostly here and in the ladies sections (hey, they ought to know best) and over a period of time came to an assumption of what would probably work best. I haven't tried any of the creams yet, though I may. I'm too chicken to buy any.
I'm a huge coward when it comes to stuff like that. I probably do need to try some though, my left tit is smaller than my right one, I can certainly tell it. I was thinking that if I was to rub the cream on just my left one it would catch up. I really would like them to be even and symmetrical as possible. I wonder if the cream would have any effect on increasing aureole and nipple size? Women's are usually pretty large in comparison to a male's. All the TS tits I've seen (a lot) seem to be pretty small, but I don't know if that's because almost all of them are implant fake tits and not real homegrown tits.
I don't know.. Anyway, my knowledge of all this stuff is very limited. I really only began this one way journey 4 months ago.
It snuck up on me. I got scared and tried to pretend it away for awhile but I finally accepted the fact of the situation and now I'm embracing it. Let the chips fall where they may. My tits are growing. I'll deal with it as it happens. And life goes on.

Oh yes, I've also just added St. John's Wort to my regime to help me get over my depression(s) All of my several me's are depressed. :( I've heard it really helps a lot. I sure could use it. BUT, OTOH I'm scared to think what life would be like being happy all the time. I can't imagine that.

Anyway.
Here's my progress.

http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=mypinkboobs.jpg
(I'm also wearing my newly pink'ed tank top that I made myself)

Be aware that the picture doesn't really work well here. When I look down at them they seem like, well, tits. Here they look like little bumps, at least a woman would call them that. Girly bumps. I guess if I had a proper fitting bra it would be different.
I have ONE bra (and I was embarrassed to death to buy it through the mail) and it doesn't fit very well, yet. I'm getting there though.

I can say that even wearing this one ill fitting bra pushes me around into a very noticeable configuration. (it's hard to tell from the pictures but trust me.) With the bra on I couldn't hide em even wearing TWO T-shirts. Without the bra it all sort of shifts and spreads out more or less into a less noticeable configuration. No bra and two T-shirts and I can hide em. Wearing only one T-shirt is pushing my luck. For now.

Soon, I am pretty sure I'll have to be finding some sort of sports bra that will keep em in a way that I can "pass as a male".. Hahaha! What a trip. I used to could (barely) pass as female when I was 20 something. Now I'm worried about passing as a MALE! Hahahaha!! Life is twisted isn't it?!! ;-P

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Dip me in estrogen and throw me to the lesbians!

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Those are definitely tits Moonstruck. Nice progress!
And the pink tank top looks nice too.

I agree that the food industry contributes to breast and many other forms cancer.Here in North America, we still use alot of food additives like hormones and antibiotics in our meats. We are starting to come around though,We're starting to find alot more Organic products in our grocery stores. That's what I try to do,eat as much organic as possible. It sure does bump up the grocery bill. Then again, you can't put a price on good health. Eventually the prices might come down.


The part about our ancestors not living as long we do does'nt really have anything to do with the food they ate! They likely ate a better quality food than what we do. They didn't have the additives in the food like we do.They ate more organic and thats what we're trying to get back to.
Life was alot more harsh back then, than it is now. We don't need to raise our food or hunt, We have machines to do alot of the hard work for us. We have buses,cars,trains, planes to take us where ever we want to go and our homes are designed to keep us warmer and/or cooler.If we had to live like they did we wouldn't live very long either. Think about it.

Blu-jay :)

Looking Good! Moonstruck.

"Those are definitely tits Moonstruck. Nice progress!
And the pink tank top looks nice too."


**blush**

Thank you very much, you are much too kind. I still think they are little girly bumps at best. But I'm trying!
I hope they'll end up being as nice as yours someday but I doubt that's possible. ;-)

I'm a real coward, no where near as brave (or nice looking) as you but, here goes.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/Mortica_Addams/nobra.jpg

Don't click it at work! Or near mealtime. Don't view for at least 30 minutes before or after a meal. :D





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Dip me in estrogen and throw me to the lesbians!

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Congrats, MS! They look fab. It takes guts to post pics online, especially as a guy - so good on you and happy growing!

Moonstruck,
Thanks for being brave enough to post your pics. I always admire those who have the guts to do that and it is really inspiring. After all, there you are a guy and your breasts are bigger than mine (sigh), so if you can do it, I can do it... lol

By the way, in our bodies, wild yam cream cannot be converted into progesterone. That can only happen in the lab and in fact that is how they make progesterone cream. Wild yam does bind to progesterone receptors, but it has no progesterone action. Be sure the progesterone cream you chose has USP in the ingredients because that tells you it has progesterone that is biologically identical to human progesterone.

Maybe guys would benefit from use of progesterone if they are increasing estrogen. I know progesterone has a protective action in the prevention and treatment of prostate cancer. Dr John Lee stated progesterone had a protective effect in women for breast and uterine cancer. It only stands to reason that guys who are growing breasts would benefit for the same reasons women would. I doubt however we could come up with any research to back up this theory. Food for thought.

waxingmoon

Wow you even have cleavage! Thanks for posting the pics Moonstruck. I'll eat my brekkies now before getting the kids to school. You didn't put me off my food honey, no worries. :-)

Those certainly are tits. ALRIGHT MOONSTRUCK!
You are a brave person for posting pics!

Well, I'm not all that brave. I made sure to blur/crop out my fugly mug and double chin.
Plus I was sucking my gut in too. I still have a long way to go though, I want go a lot further with it than what you see there.
I want FEMALE *breasts* not little girly tits. As for cleavage, uhm, well, if you say so.. :)

I can lift my tit and put a pencil under it then let go of both. My tit will keep the pencil in place. I can do this when sitting down but I can not do it when standing up. Now when I can do that while standing up, that's when I'll know I really have graduated from the "Itty Bitty Titty Committee."

Thanks for all the kind words though folks. :)




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Ok, here's some more pics.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/Mortica_Addams/Image032.jpg

As you can see, I'm in it for the long haul.



http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/Mortica_Addams/righttitbottom.jpg

This is my right tittie looking at it from beneath. Sort of how my doggies see me. :)
Poor babies, they can't figure out what I am.... (sorry for the bad pic, I'm not a professional photographer.)




http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/Mortica_Addams/ohmy-01.jpg

And this is my titties with me just sitting in a chair. And sucking my big gut in.


Oh, Morticia Addams is one of my alter egos. If I could be like her, oh my! I love that show so much, and she's soooo hot.
I always wanted to be and look and live like her. They are kooky and have such a lust for life, they savor all the oddities of the world..

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Speaking of cattle, milk, meat, hormones, etc...

http://tinyurl.com/29znz6

It's a New York Times article on Organic Farming and about growth hormones & antibiotics they give cattle .

The URL was really long so I used that to shorten it, it's safe.

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Here's a slide show / article on "super foods" that are supposed to provide excellent health benefits.
Pretty interesting stuff. Nothing about breast enhancement but it is about improving your health which I'm sure we're all concerned with. After reading this I think I'm going to start drinking cranberry juice daily..

http://health.msn.com/centers/cancer/slideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=100159956&imageindex=1



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Dip me in estrogen and throw me to the lesbians!

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