Q: Who raised Jesus Christ from the Dead? How was he raised from the dead?
A: By the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit: God.
The Father
Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
The Son
John 2:19 Jesus answered, "Destroy this sanctuary, and I will raise it up in three days."
John 10:17 This is why the Father loves Me, because I am laying down My life that I may take it up again.
John 10:18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down on My own. I have the right to lay it down, and I have the right to take it up again. I have received this command from My Father."
The Holy Spirit
Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, then He who raised Christ from the dead will also bring your mortal bodies to life through His Spirit who lives in you.
Let me ask you my question now,
In Genesis 1:26 God says "Let US make, in OUR image"
Yes, in just the next verse it is written "so then God made, in His image".
If we believe both verses are correct and Godbreathed, the only logical and grammatical conclusion to make, is God is plural, is it not?
The US and OUR cannot be angels because verse 27 and 31 says it was only God who made in only his image.
1. in order to prevent tantrum attacks from Jason when he is cornered and pinned, I usually keep a bit distance reading his self-destructing replies…do I need to add when he proclaims that there is “plural” god? He is pagan and pagans have innumerable number of gods. Even if he writes god without “s” to assume singular implication but sad to say his god is PLURAL, on it is already a clear proclamation that Jason’s counts of god is not one and if you have many gods then you are pagan! Get it papi?
2. everybody knew the value of Jason’s answers; a. he has multiple gods, b. his gods is talking and co-existing together side by side, c. his gods has many forms—spirit & human. Then how can you say that he is Christian having monotheistic belief in the ONE true God.
3. when the one TRUE God said “let us make man”, it doesn’t mean he is talking to his fellow gods/creators, and basing on that verse itself it is only the wrong pagan presumptions that God talks to another god entity or persons. if he really want to insist his wrong pagan thinking, how can Jason determine the exact numbers of the word “US”? How can we be so sure that there were only three entities talking?
4. now PAPI, kindly expound/show to us the verse(s) that Jason quoted in this thread strongly proved that Jesus is God and that there is trinity? The true God is responsible for Jesus resurrection, it is not Jesus himself. Jesus take his life again as it is commanded or accorded by the will of God. So, did we have at least some clear glance of trinity proven as god—NO! on that regard, how can say Jason or papi has clear thinking.
5. lastly I don’t intend to mock anyone, it is just co-incidental that upon proving my belief I found many ridiculous things on my counterpart discussants, like the runaway: Nucc, and Eminentissimum. The same with Jason, he counts the undetermined number of entities as one ONLY. I am quoting a verse to be included in your count of gods, Rev. 5:6, 6And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
jason the kid, attracts another kid named papi..hehehe
So DN admits the INC is not the true church of Christ then?
July 26 2007, 10:33 PM
DN
I accept you throwing in the towel DN. Two of your ministers have done the same. It is evident and I do thank you for admitting, that there is no one who can refute the words of God. All of the verses I have quoted, of which you nor your ministers have refuted or responded to, prove without any doubts, prove irrefutebly that what I have stated here is the truth of God's word. God is plural and Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh. It was God Himself who came down from heaven and became a man. This has been irrefutebly proven.
I do thank you for admitting this fact. Now all you have to do is just put down your pride and admit it openly. I do not mean to boast but I want to point out to all the readers that if the INC was the true church of Christ, I would have been refuted years ago and DN and Ver would have been able to respond to me in any sort of way. Since I have not been, by anyone online or the INC ministers I have spoken with directly, it proves one thing, the INC is not the true Church of Christ or even a church of Christ. The INC is a false religion.
well, Congratz U have proven to us ur belief on many gods.
Though I really can’t comprehend what you’re saying. Maybe the comments on JASON were right that HE loss sanity and perhaps intoxicated with narcotics. And the fact is with hIS help, it is clear now that hE really is PAGAN cloaked as Christian. Yes we surrendered to ur extreme stubbornness & arrogance and not on logic and clear reasoning. It is for his own benefit that sometimes i keep a distance from Jason to prevent his tantrum roars. Hahaha.
JASON BELIEVES ON INUMERABLE NUMBER OF GODS—A PAGAN INDEED!
striving to & having the feeling proving numerous gods with the use of bible is PAGANS' MAIN SOURCE OF PLEASURE.
You only presume that there is trinity, and that God speaks to god the son in Genesis, and that God is only talking with two other entities, etc... how about the seven spirits of God? have answered it with sense--NO. what you have done is just mere contradicting biblical verses. when God said there no god beside nor aside from me...you done nothing to clarify those basics? LOOK AT THIS THREAD!
better take your anti-depressants, jason bec ur mind is wandering. hahaha
even your pagan catholic allies commented that you loss sanity jason...hahaha
your postings never gave-up but the argumentative contents losses fire and flavor to be considered worthy as it keeps on rewinding and restating those wrongly comprehended verses. Nothing new can be found on Jason—status quo on poor grounded arguments. The only thing I appreciate in Jason is perseverance.
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Jason:
I make posts with verse and point.
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The verses quoted were none supporting to your claims and proclaims.
Jason:
You fail to refute the verse and point I make and give up.
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You have had proven to us the belief on many gods. now,is there any reason for me to add more—nothing because your point is just enough to be considered self-destructing.
Jason:
I by default win the argument and by doing so, prove the INC is a false man made religion.
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What is this insanity again, “I by default win”, it only shows how close-minded pagan Jason is?
Jason:
Any questions?
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There so many things questionable in your post.
(Jason)
Q: Who raised Jesus Christ from the Dead? How was he raised from the dead?
A: By the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit: God.
The Father
Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
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Correct, only the true God had done this.
(Jason)
The Son
John 2:19 Jesus answered, "Destroy this sanctuary, and I will raise it up in three days."
John 10:17 This is why the Father loves Me, because I am laying down My life that I may take it up again.
John 10:18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down on My own. I have the right to lay it down, and I have the right to take it up again. I have received this command from My Father."
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Wrong interpretation, Jesus was able to take back his life again because it is in accordance with the will of the ONE TRUEGOD—the FATHER and not Jesus himself!
I’ll give you another rendition from Weymouth, John 10:17-18, 17For this reason my Father loves me, because I am laying down my life in order to receive it back again. 18No one is taking it away from me, but I myself am laying it down. I am authorized to lay it down, and I am authorized to receive it back again. This is the command I received from my Father."
(Jason)
The Holy Spirit
Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, then He who raised Christ from the dead will also bring your mortal bodies to life through His Spirit who lives in you.
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The “Spirit of God” is Spirit of God—no more no less and it is not another god entity itself Nor persons of god per se. Pagan Jason and the rest of pagans in this planet are used to make wrong conclusions all the time.
As I have said there are “seven Spirits of God” was sent to earth (Rev. 5:6,.. having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.), if Jason was correct in his interpretation how many gods or persons of gods would there be?
Pagan trinity god is totally busted!!!
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(Jason)
Let me ask you my question now,
In Genesis 1:26 God says "Let US make, in OUR image"
Yes, in just the next verse it is written "so then God made, in His image".
If we believe both verses are correct and Godbreathed, the only logical and grammatical conclusion to make, is God is plural, is it not?
The US and OUR cannot be angels because verse 27 and 31 says it was only God who made in only his image.
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In that sense,
1. God was speaking to his fellow gods? Pagans love this idea…hahaha
2. how many are they, give the exact number of the “US & OUR” using Gen 1:26?
3. is it a lie then, that only one God performs the actual creation and not together nor with the help of those entities around Him during the time He had spoken “let us”?
4. did God said, I will assign the son—in charge in the formation of the body, while the lowest rank—holy spirit on the creation of limbs and Me being superior among the three will make design for the formation of head?
5. If those who listen to God in Gen. 1:26 has had some participations or involvements in the creation of human what was there role? if not audience, onlookers, what, give their specific participations?
Jason loves and always states this “God is plural” therefore precisely we can conclude that he (Jason) believes on many gods, for sure he doesn’t have idea how many there would be…hahaha. PLURAL IS NOT SINGLE JASON!!!
“Let us”, doesn’t always mean that all listeners are always involve in the actual performance of certain work/action, etc...
In contrast, “LET US” SEE IF JASON CAN SURVIVE THIS REPLY.
JASON
In Genesis 1:26 God says "Let US make, in OUR image"
Yes, in just the next verse it is written "so then God made, in His image".
If we believe both verses are correct and Godbreathed, the only logical and grammatical conclusion to make, is God is plural, is it not?
VER
STOP LYING ON THINGS THAT ARE FOUND..YOURE ON HALLUCUNATION JASON..LOL
IS THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT INVOLVED IN CREATION?..ONLY IN YOUR WILD DREAMS..READ!
Mal 2:10 Is there not one father to us all? Hath not one God created us?
Isa 64:8 And now, O Jehovah, thou art our Father; We are the clay, And thou our potter; We all are the work of thy hands.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith Jehovah, who createth the heavens; God himself, the Maker of the earth; Who made it, And furnished it; He created it not empty; He formed it to be inhabited; I am Jehovah, And there is none besides me.
SEE JASON?...IT WAS THE FATHER ALONE WHO DO THE CREATION..YOU BEEN LIED TO BY YOUR POPE..LOL
JASON
In Genesis 1:26 God says "Let US make, in OUR image"
Yes, in just the next verse it is written "so then God made, in His image".
If we believe both verses are correct and Godbreathed, the only logical and grammatical conclusion to make, is God is plural, is it not?
VER
STOP LYING ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT FOUND..YOURE ON HALLUCUNATION JASON..LOL
IS THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT INVOLVED IN CREATION?..ONLY IN YOUR WILD DREAMS..READ!
Mal 2:10 Is there not one father to us all? Hath not one God created us?
Isa 64:8 And now, O Jehovah, thou art our Father; We are the clay, And thou our potter; We all are the work of thy hands.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith Jehovah, who createth the heavens; God himself, the Maker of the earth; Who made it, And furnished it; He created it not empty; He formed it to be inhabited; I am Jehovah, And there is none besides me.
SEE JASON?...IT WAS THE FATHER ALONE WHO DO THE CREATION..YOU BEEN LIED TO BY YOUR POPE..LOL
Jim, the point is, is it more than just the Father
July 28 2007, 4:43 PM
Jim, have you or have you not admitted that it was more than just the Father who created the universe and who's image mankind is made of?
You have cowarded from responding to this question.
And we know it was the Son due to the following:
Hebrews 1:1-2 “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.”
John 1:3 “Through him (Jesus Christ) all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”
Colossians 1:16 “For by him (Jesus Christ) all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.”
And by fact, we know it was the Son because the Son is Father of his creation.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Everlasting Father = Father of Eternity, that which has been created.
Yes, the Son is there, you are just blind and in denial, a coward
July 28 2007, 9:18 PM
Again, stop arguing with logical fallacies. Your false strawman argument is based in denial and evasion. You are INCapable of supplying an answer to my question. Clearly Genesis 1:26 proves that God is plural. You have no countering refutation to this irrefuteble fact. Hence, you have to create a strawman logical fallacy to you can remain cowaring in your hole or ignorance.
The Son is apart of the OUR and WE in verse 26. This is supported by multiple verses in the NT.
Hebrews 1:1-2 “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.”
John 1:3 “Through him (Jesus Christ) all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”
Colossians 1:16 “For by him (Jesus Christ) all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.”
True Christians and followers of Christ accept the revelations of Jesus Christ made in the New Testament. If one is a coward and cult member of which they are brain washed by the power of Satanic forces into shutting their minds to obvious truths, then their eternal destiny is of their own making.
The Son is clearly apart of the US and OUR of Genesis 1:26. God is plural per verse 1:26, it is only God who made and it was only in God's plural likeness that man was made per verse 27.
Your denials and evasions make me wanna vomit. I have no patience for cowards and liars, deceivers and deniars. Either admit to the facts, of which we all know you cannot because you have allready admitted so by your ineptitudes and inaction or stop wasting my time and everyone else here if you cannot adequately participate in these discussions in a constructive way.
God choose to reveal his Word in the way he chose to. Jesus Christ was revealed by the NT. Jesus Christ is quoted many times in the OT however but that is another discussion. If you are a fool and do not believe that I will correct you once again.
Jim, stop being such a fool and deniar. You claim to believe, but you believe in nothing. All you have done and said every time you post, is only deny.
Let us go back to Genesis Jason, do not go anywhere else!
July 28 2007, 9:32 PM
Let us settle the US and WE in Genesis first, before you jump into another book like what you accused the ministers of INC did to you, don't copy their style if you don't like it.
Let us consentrate on the book of Genesis first if that US and WE in that book pertains to the son and the father and the holy spirit talking to each other.
It is VERY imposible that God missed to mention them again in the preceeding verses of the same book who was he talking to. We could read the angels or cherubims was there but please show us where can we read the "son of God" in the preceeding verses or in the whole book of Genesis if indeed your US and WE really pertains to the existent of the son of God in Genesis.
Please stay cool, take your HBP medication, we need you here.
Jim clearly I have lost patience with you. If you had an open mind then you would have accepted the evidence I have allready demonstrated to you. Now I know the INC is a world class cult and controls the minds of their members very tightly, but still, you have had ample enough time to review the information. If you were open minded, you would have accepted it by now.
[Jim]
Let us settle the US and WE in Genesis first, before you jump into another book like what you accused the ministers of INC did to you, don't copy their style if you don't like it.
Let us consentrate on the book of Genesis first if that US and WE in that book pertains to the son and the father and the holy spirit talking to each other.
It is VERY imposible that God missed to mention them again in the preceeding verses of the same book who was he talking to.
[Jason]
Jim, you are making an ASSumption here (emphasis mine). What we know as fact is, the words US and OUR, are plural pronouns. This is basic grammar that cannot be refuted. They are plural Jim.
Secondly in verse 27 and 31, it is clearly stated that it was only God who created in His image alone. No others are mentioned.
The only logical and rational conclusion to make Jim, is that God is plural.
God chooses to reveal how HE wants to reveal, not how you think He should. Who are you to say how God should reveal Himself? Paaaaaaaaaaaaleze
[Jim]
We could read the angels or cherubims was there but please show us where can we read the "son of God" in the preceeding verses or in the whole book of Genesis if indeed your US and WE really pertains to the existent of the son of God in Genesis.
Please stay cool, take your HBP medication, we need you here.
[Jason]
Jim, I am not going to buy your logicaly false strawman argument. We cannot read in Chapter 1 of Genesis that the we and our are angels. No. Secondly verse 27 REFUTES THIS FALSE NOTION.
It cannot be angels who created man because verse 27 and 31 clearly state that it was only God who created and only in His likeness.
Now in the New Testament which I am not sure if you have ever read or believe, (are you Jewish?), God fully revealed the fact that it was the Son, who created.
Hebrews 1:1-2 “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.”
John 1:3 “Through him (Jesus Christ) all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”
Colossians 1:16 “For by him (Jesus Christ) all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.”
So stop with your logically false strawman tactic Jim, its infantile. The fact remains, it was God who created in God's image, and that is US and OUR, plural.
You cannot refute this, and that is why you have not. Jim, I get so frustrated with you because I keep having to repeat myself and this is only due to your mind being closed and controlled. The only way I have found it sucessfull to break through the baracaded mind of a controlled subject is to increase the pressure and force.
Otherwise we would be here for eternity and nothing would get resovled.
The US and OUR in verse 26 cannot be anything else than God. Verse 27 and 31 prove this as fact.
This is why you are trying to contruct logically false strawman arguments. This is very typical of the INC.
[Jason]
Jim, you are making an ASSumption here (emphasis mine). What we know as fact is, the words US and OUR, are plural pronouns. This is basic grammar that cannot be refuted. They are plural Jim.
Secondly in verse 27 and 31, it is clearly stated that "it" was only God who created in His image alone. No others are mentioned.
(Jim)
I found "it" in your statement Jason. that is what I mean.
JASON
In Genesis 1:26 God says "Let US make, in OUR image"
Yes, in just the next verse it is written "so then God made, in His image".
If we believe both verses are correct and Godbreathed, the only logical and grammatical conclusion to make, is God is plural, is it not?
VER
STOP LYING ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT FOUND..YOURE ON HALLUCUNATION JASON..LOL
IS THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT INVOLVED IN CREATION?..ONLY IN YOUR WILD DREAMS..READ!
Mal 2:10 Is there not one father to us all? Hath not one God created us?
Isa 64:8 And now, O Jehovah, thou art our Father; We are the clay, And thou our potter; We all are the work of thy hands.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith Jehovah, who createth the heavens; God himself, the Maker of the earth; Who made it, And furnished it; He created it not empty; He formed it to be inhabited; I am Jehovah, And there is none besides me.
SEE JASON?...IT WAS THE FATHER ALONE WHO DO THE CREATION..YOU BEEN LIED TO BY YOUR POPE..LOL
JASON
In Genesis 1:26 God says "Let US make, in OUR image"
Yes, in just the next verse it is written "so then God made, in His image".
If we believe both verses are correct and Godbreathed, the only logical and grammatical conclusion to make, is God is plural, is it not?
VER
STOP LYING ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT FOUND..YOURE ON HALLUCUNATION JASON..LOL
IS THE SON OR THE HOLY SPIRIT INVOLVED IN CREATION?..ONLY IN YOUR WILD DREAMS..READ!
Mal 2:10 Is there not one father to us all? Hath not one God created us?
Isa 64:8 And now, O Jehovah, thou art our Father; We are the clay, And thou our potter; We all are the work of thy hands.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith Jehovah, who createth the heavens; God himself, the Maker of the earth; Who made it, And furnished it; He created it not empty; He formed it to be inhabited; I am Jehovah, And there is none besides me.
SEE JASON?...IT WAS THE FATHER ALONE WHO DO THE CREATION..YOU BEEN LIED TO BY YOUR POPE..LOL
[Jason]
Um, Ver, there in another entire section of the Bible called the New Testament, oh wait, im speaking to Ver.
SO VER ONE HAS TO ACCEPT THE ENTIRE BIBLE, NOT CHERRY PICK WHAT THEY WANT TO AND WANT NOT TO BELIEVE. WHAT YOU WANT NOT TO BELIEVE ARE THE FOLLOWING VERSES:
Hebrews 1:1-2 “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.”
John 1:3 “Through him (Jesus Christ) all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”
Colossians 1:16 “For by him (Jesus Christ) all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.”
IT WAS THE SON WHO DID THE ACTUAL CREATION BUT ALL COMPONENTS OF THE GODHEAD ALL WORKED TOGETHER AS ONE IN THE CREATION PROCESS.
THE FACT REMAINS VER, WHICH YOU ARE A COWARD AND ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM.
THE GOD WHO CREATED ACCORDING TO GENESIS 1:26, IS PLURAL.
YOU SAY THE US AND OUR ARE REFERRING TO ANGELS
VERSE 27 AND 31 CALL YOU A LIAR AND DECEIVER FOR IT WAS ONLY GOD WHO CREATED.
EVEN IN THE VERSES YOU QUOTED, IT NEVER SAYS ANGELS CREATED BUT ONLY GOD.
JASON
IT WAS THE SON WHO DID THE ACTUAL CREATION BUT ALL COMPONENTS OF THE GODHEAD ALL WORKED TOGETHER AS ONE IN THE CREATION PROCESS.
VER
SATAN IS WORKING THRU THE LIES OF JASON.
IT WAS THE FATHER ALONE WHO DO THE CREATION.
Mal 2:10 Is there not one father to us all? Hath not one God created us?
Isa 64:8 And now, O Jehovah, thou art our Father; We are the clay, And thou our potter; We all are the work of thy hands.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith Jehovah, who createth the heavens; God himself, the Maker of the earth; Who made it, And furnished it; He created it not empty; He formed it to be inhabited; I am Jehovah, And there is none besides me.
WHERE DID YOU FIND THE SON WERE INVOLVED IN CREATION JASON?...STOP QOUTING NARRATOR STATEMENT,PROVIDE GODS DIRECT STATEMENT IF YOU DARE..OK?
YOU BEEN LIED TO BY YOUR POPE..GO BACK TO CATHOLIC CHURCH AND CONFESS YOUR SINS TO TO YOUR FELLOW PAGAN PREIST..LOL
Hebrews 1:1-2 “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.”
John 1:3 “Through him (Jesus Christ) all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”
Colossians 1:16 “For by him (Jesus Christ) all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.”
It was Jesus Christ who did the actual making AND, it is by Jesus Christ that all things are held together.
Im mean, er, VER, I MEAN YOU DO BELIEVE AND ACCEPT THE NEW TESTAMENT AS WELL DONT YOU? HOW CAN YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN AND DENY THE NT? THAT DOES NOT SEEM RIGHT.
YES, IT WAS THE FATHER ALSO WHO CREATED THE UNIVERSE, THE PLURALITY OF GOD CREATED AS VER GENESIS 1:26
US AND OUR ARE PLURAL.
WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING ME REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER. ITS HIGHLY FRUSTRATING.
WOULD YOU BE UP FOR A LIVE CONVERSAION IN INTERNET RELAY CHAT? I would love to chat with you and everyone in IRC live. OR I CAN CREATE MY OWN N54 forum and add live chat to it.
STOP QOUTING NARRATOR STATEMENT,PROVIDE GODS DIRECT STATEMENT IF YOU DARE..OK?
July 28 2007, 10:13 PM
WHERE DID YOU FIND THE SON WERE INVOLVED IN CREATION JASON?
Mal 2:10 Is there not one father to us all? Hath not one God created us?
Isa 64:8 And now, O Jehovah, thou art our Father; We are the clay, And thou our potter; We all are the work of thy hands.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith Jehovah, who createth the heavens; God himself, the Maker of the earth; Who made it, And furnished it; He created it not empty; He formed it to be inhabited; I am Jehovah, And there is none besides me.
STOP QOUTING NARRATOR STATEMENT,PROVIDE GODS DIRECT STATEMENT IF YOU DARE..OK?
this evil possesed guy cannot answer my question...lol
July 29 2007, 5:57 AM
JASON
IF ITS JESUS THE MAN, THEN HOW CAN HE SHARE IN HUMANITY, IF HE WAS ONLY AND ALLREADY HUMAN?
14Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death...
VER
NOTHING IN THAT VERSE PROVED JESUS IS GOD NOR A PREXISTENCE GOD AS WHAT YOU BEEN FALSELY DREAMING..READ IN HEB 2:10[GWV]
10 ¶ God is the one for whom and through whom everything exists. Therefore, while God was bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was the right time to bring Jesus, the source of their salvation, to the end of his work through suffering.
SEE?..GOD STATE: it was the right time to bring Jesus, ..WHY WOULD GOD BRING JESUS IN THE RIGHT TIME IF JESUS WAS EXISTING BEFORE??
PETER EXPLAIN it was the right time to bring Jesus, ...NOT AS GOD BUT A PLAN OF GOD LONG AGO....
1PETER [GWV]
20 He is the lamb who was known long ago before the world existed, but for your good he became publicly known in the last period of time.
NOW YOUR FALLACY IS EXPOSED..ITS YOUR TURN TO ANSWER MY QUESTION
QUESTION FOR JASON:
1.WHO IS POWERFUL? THE AUTHORITHY GIVER? OR THE RECIPIENT?
2.WHO BRING THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO JESUS? HIMSELF?
3.WHOM DID JESUS INTRODUCED TO HIS BRETHREN? HIMSELF?
4.DID JESUS INCLUDE HIMSELF IN HIS STATEMENT "I will tell my people about your name. I will praise you within the congregation."?
5.WHOM DID JESUS IMPLY "I WILL PRAISE YOU WITHEN THE CONGRAGATION"..HIMSELF?
jesus is a plan...not a person...answer my question or else evaporate
August 2 2007, 4:17 AM
NOTHING IN THAT VERSE PROVED JESUS IS GOD NOR A PREEXISTENCE GOD AS WHAT YOU BEEN FALSELY DREAMING..READ IN HEB 2:10[GWV]
10 ¶ God is the one for whom and through whom everything exists. Therefore, while God was bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was the right time to bring Jesus, the source of their salvation, to the end of his work through suffering.
SEE?..GOD STATE: it was the right time to bring Jesus, ..WHY WOULD GOD BRING JESUS IN THE RIGHT TIME IF JESUS WAS EXISTING BEFORE??
PETER EXPLAIN it was the right time to bring Jesus, ...NOT AS GOD BUT A PLAN OF GOD LONG AGO....
1PETER [GWV]
20 He is the lamb who was known long ago before the world existed, but for your good he became publicly known in the last period of time.
NOW YOUR FALLACY IS EXPOSED..ITS YOUR TURN TO ANSWER MY QUESTION
QUESTION FOR JASON:
1.WHO IS POWERFUL? THE AUTHORITY GIVER? OR THE RECIPIENT?
2.WHO BRING THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO JESUS? HIMSELF?
3.WHOM DID JESUS INTRODUCED TO HIS BRETHREN? HIMSELF?
4.DID JESUS INCLUDE HIMSELF IN HIS STATEMENT "I will tell my people about your name. I will praise you within the congregation."?
5.WHOM DID JESUS IMPLY "I WILL PRAISE YOU WITHIN THE CONGREGATION"..HIMSELF?
This message has been edited by Dr_No_orig on Aug 2, 2007 7:02 AM
Jason surrendered! Silenced his brain, gone trinitarians!
October 27 2007, 6:27 AM
This is his how Jason cried like a baby in the other forum:
"You are trying to actually have a conversation with Jim. Jim and a few others are on my ignore ban list. You should create one too. It really does help you keep your sanity. If I can recall, the few I have on my list are
Winsurfer
Jim
Ver
If you just stop trying to have a human / normal conversation with this brain lost cult members, you will be much happier like meeeeeeeee weeeeeeeeeeee :D
Jason
The bible is right:
"you will look for them and you can't find them"
Isaiah 41:11-13
11“Behold, all those who are angered at you will be shamed and dishonored;
Those who contend with you will be as nothing and will perish.
12 “You will seek those who quarrel with you, but will not find them,
Those who war with you will be as nothing and non-existent.
13 “For I am the LORD your God, who upholds your right hand,
Who says to you, ‘Do not fear, I will help you.’
