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MS Office 2007 runs in Wine

by qbguy (no login)

Even though there is Openoffice and Abiword, Gnumeric, for Linux, you might want to run MS Office anyway.

Here's how:

1) Run winecfg, set windows version to Vista.
2) Clicked 'autodetect' on drives tab to assign a drive (d:\) to cdrom
2) Downloaded winetricks, run "sh winetricks msxml3 dotnet20 gdiplus riched20 riched30 vcrun2005sp1". Clicked through installers.
3) rename ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/rpcrt4.dll to rpcrt4.bak
4) download a new rpcrt4.dll from here: http://www.mediafire.com/?njtut9aswdk Copy to that to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32.
5) winecfg->libraries add an override for rpcrt4.dll (i left it at native,builtin)
6) run the installer (cd do cdrom and then "wine setup.exe" or just "./setup.exe" works on Ubuntu)
7) Clicked through installer, added product key, etc. Progress bar slows down a bit about 60% done, but just wait a few minutes and it finishes.
8) Remove the downloaded rpcrt4.dll, restore the .bak. Open winecfg and remove the override. Change the windows version back to XP.
9) Start up office. ("cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Microsoft\ Office/Office12", then "wine WINWORD.EXE").

Posted on Jul 27, 2008, 9:19 AM

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Bullets do not work unless you do this:

by qbguy (no login)

(1) Open MS Word (in Wine, not in Windows lol)
(2) Click the Office Button (main menu), then click "Word options"
(3) Then click "Language settings"
(4) Remove all langugages from "Enabled editing languages" except English UK and English US.
(5) Bullets should now work.
(5) Add back French, Italian, and Spanish if you want to.

Posted on Jul 28, 2008, 6:15 AM

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How to repair grub if Windows overwrites it

by qbguy (no login)

If you get a virus on your Windoze and have to reinstall and now you can't boot to Linux, to repair grub, you do this:

1) boot from a linux live cd
2) open a terminal
3) type: grub (you need to be root -- on Ubuntu live CD you need to use sudo)

then type:

find /boot/grub/stage1
setup (hd0)

then type quit to exit grub.

4) Now reboot ("sudo reboot" or just "reboot" depending on your system)

You should get the grub menu back again.

Posted on Jul 26, 2008, 7:30 PM

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fb.net has the same problem

by mennonite (no login)

all it takes is a troll to take the thread somewhere people don't want it to go, and for an admin to decide it's not worth keeping the thread open. the problem? trolls have the power to lock any thread via coercion.

sounds nutty? it happened ALL THE TIME at fb.net. most people do not consider their posts useless. ted acts like almost everyone's (there are rare exceptions) are useless, but just because someone finds an interesting way to make a point, i don't think it's worth the bother to try to post on a forum where everything is going to be locked as a reaction.

you can try to make it a serious forum, or a fun forum, or a serious and fun forum. but it won't be a forum if you're locking everything. it'll be an archive. you've been given the authority to choose which one you want it to be.

a locked thread full of "useless posts" means that it will never have the opportunity to gain useful ones. there are not many locked threads on the qbasic forum. it's better that way. if you feel my posts are useless, i can chat about linux somewhere else, no problem.

Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 11:19 PM

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*Just DELETE the USELESS stuff and move on! Menn is a TROLL too!

by (Login burger2227)
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Posted on Jul 25, 2008, 12:11 AM

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* FB.NET? LOL, we both are banned there!

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Posted on Jul 25, 2008, 12:13 AM

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Re: fb.net has the same problem

by qbguy (no login)

The problem is that usually what happens is the thread gets "hijacked" and a bunch of posts happen which usually end with Clippy posting a post with a bunch of random WORDS in capital LETTERS and a**terisks which usually has nothing to do with Linux.

I have temporarily unlocked those threads in case anyone wants to post some rational discussion.

I would prefer if this forum did not die and everyone went somewhere else to chat about Linux.

Posted on Jul 25, 2008, 5:43 AM

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that's appreciated

by mennonite (no login)

to be honest, you could keep helping with qb64 and it would be more than enough to have anyone's respect here... well, i won't speak for ted.

a lot of us would like you to be able to run this forum, including me. it's just we can't do it if anyone's got you locking every thread. it's not that we don't understand you've got challenges. running any forum is a challenge... sometimes posting is too. hopefully we'll figure it out.

Posted on Jul 25, 2008, 5:57 AM

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* Censorship? Why not just delete the thread as useless? I don't mind!

by (Login burger2227)
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Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 3:45 PM

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would you stop asking pete to erase everyone's posts?

by mennonite (no login)

that's so offensive... just because you don't put five seconds of thought into your posts doesn't mean we don't.

if you're going to ask for our replies to be deleted, don't even talk to us here, use chat for trolling.

Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 4:02 PM

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*pete / people... etc

by mennonite (no login)

Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 4:06 PM

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* I was talking to Dean, not Pete. He moderates here!

by (Login burger2227)
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Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 4:58 PM

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*hence the other reply

by mennonite (no login)

Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 5:03 PM

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A LOCK is good as a DELETE to a blind horse! Why keep it?

by (Login burger2227)
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So that you can come back and gloat over your "philisophical superiority and typing skills" or allow others to see how useless it is to argue with either of us? LOL



    
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Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 6:06 PM

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* This thread is locked before this forum is filled with useless posts

by (Login dean.menezes)
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WARNING: THE GENERIC GALLEON COMPILER IS NOT READY YET AND I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO POST MESSAGES IN THIS FORUM ABOUT IT BUT I'M SURE THE NEXT DEMO MIGHT BE EVEN BETTER BUT IF YOU TRY IT AND GET FRUSTRATED YOU MIGHT NEVER USE IT AGAIN. DO NOT EAT GENERIC GALLEON COMPILER. GENERIC GALLEON COMPILER MAY BE ILLEGAL IN SOME COUNTRIES WHICH HAVE A DICTATOR GOVERNMENT, ARE RUN BY BILL GATES, OR DO NOT ALLOW ENCRYPTION.

Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 6:28 PM

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FreeBSD and other Unix-Like

by qbguy (no login)

Should this forum be changed to include FreeBSD and other Unix like systems? What about MacOS X, which is BSD-based? What about Cygwin / GnuWin32 on Windows?





Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 8:42 AM

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it should not be changed

by mennonite (no login)

actually, i don't care if you change it, it shouldn't need to be changed.

i don't remember reading that RELATED topics were forbidden, and you're talking about related topics. i seem to recall that i said it would cause a lot of confusion and argument if we took the different subforums too seriously, and i'm still waiting for people to figure it out:

if it's related to linux, you might as well feel free to talk about it here.

obviously, i didn't create this subforum, mac did at pete's suggestion. but i did have the very same idea, probably before pete did, and i'm probably not the first to think of it either. i remember when pete talked about it in chat.

a lot of fanatics would say that bsd topics don't belong in a linux subforum. they want it to be absolutely clear that bsd and linux are not the same thing (this is true...) but hey, gnu's not unix, right? nonetheless, i showed mac linux once, and he was right at home. gnu's not unix, and bsd isn't linux, but it's not the same as using the qbasic forum to talk about powerbasic, because this is a forum centered around qbasic, not around operating systems.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 9:06 AM

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actually you guys are talking about operating systems, linux is just the kernel

by not really richard stallman (no login)

it should really be called the gnu/linux club, because linux is not an operating system. i only assume that even though you (incorrectly) call this the "linux club" you're actually using it to talk mostly about gnu and software that runs in gnu, like firefox.

and please don't use cygwin! blah, it makes the baby jesus cry! blah, blah, blah...

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 9:12 AM

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oh, shut up!

by mennonite (no login)

i'll be calling it "gnu/linux" about the time i start calling dos "dos/io.sys."

you understand what's-in-a-name because you don't (you can't) call firefox "firefox," but you do have to attribute derivatives to mozilla. the credit they get is for the code and the copyright, but you are always free (and when trademark demands it, required) to call it (almost) anything you want. so i will be calling it pedanticyak/linux, thank you. but seriously, i think you're great even though you're insane.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 9:17 AM

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you should put a space between "pedanticyak" and "/" and "linux"

by not really the linux foundation (no login)

technically, "pedanticyak/linux" infringes our trademark.

please use "pedanticyak / linux" instead, which makes it clear you are referring to linux AND something else.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 9:23 AM

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i wish those were parodies, but they're not

by mennonite (no login)

if you guys don't lighten up about where to post, you're going to end up like rms and linux torvalds, in the worst possible way.

granted i support the right to hold trademarks, but the problem is that if you do NOT defend your trademark, you lose the right to hold it. so if linus does NOT go around telling people how to use whitespace, microsoft can probably run the name "linux" into the ground. the solution is a change to trademark law that allows people to choose when and if they defend their trademark.

but i still have no idea how mcdonalds ever got the rights to "i'm lovin' it."

in my opinion, no properly spelled phrase or word should be a thing you can trademark. so "linux" and "microsoft" are valid, as would be "gnuu," but not "aim" or "i'm lovin' it." you could trademark a product called "i'mlovinit" though, if you wanted, because that's not a word... but guess what, that's another stupid whitespace issue. meh.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 9:30 AM

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My thoughts about where to post (teehee)

by (Login burger2227)
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If it can be used in Linux, then it belongs in this Forum. If not, it belongs in the CLOSEST Forum or the NON QB Forum. The moderator can ask Pete to move unrelated posts or just delete them themselves. Best to move them if coding examples involved.

Ted

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 2:40 PM

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too much trouble

by mennonite (no login)

cygwin is linux programs edited and compiled to work in windows. there is no windows subforum, but if there was it could easily go in non-qb, or windows, or linux.

don't like that? fine, don't make a linux forum.

wine is linux software. it only runs in linux. but it is used to run windows programs. could be for a windows subforum, maybe, but there isn't one and it probably fits in linux better.

but you know what? IT DOESNT MATTER, because people can figure out where they think it BELONGS. that NEVER meant "post anywhere" it means, you're smart enough to figure out where to post for yourself.

making it more complicated than that is stupid, and is proving to be totally futile and a waste of time, as anyone should have been able to see.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 3:27 PM

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* WHOGAS! Apparently you DO have a problem with logic.

by (Login burger2227)
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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 4:02 PM

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well since you're so logical, maybe you can point out the problem with this:

by mennonite (no login)

"people can figure out where they think it BELONGS. that NEVER meant "post anywhere" it means, you're smart enough to figure out where to post for yourself."

now, what's illogical about that? it's basically my stand on the entire issue. you're the one who sets up straw men all day, saying things like "SURE THAT'S WHY YOU THINK ANYTHING GOES!" there's nothing logical about straw men, particularly singing, dancing, yelling drunk ones. not to get all ad hominem or anything, just saying. you won't point out the problem with what i said, as there isn't one, instead you'll reinvent the argument or attack me.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 10:03 PM

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Come on man, you post philosophy anywhere. Here it is Dean's problem

by (Login burger2227)
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You HIJACKED a thread today by arguing the benefits of using certain file access modes. Others gave simple examples, but you just twittered about it forever.

The OP was IGNORED after you got involved in the matter! Make a FAQ or something about it to help the community. Don't hide in the dark and give speeches. Contribute something more than philisophical drivel. After all, this IS a programming forum!

PS: Does this thread really belong in a Linux Forum or should it be moved to the QB64 one?

 

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 11:49 PM

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difference of opinion

by mennonite (no login)

> You HIJACKED a thread today by arguing the benefits of using certain file access modes. Others gave simple examples, but you just twittered about it forever.

sometimes a thread turns into a debate about QBASIC. there has never been a time since the beginning of this forum when that was NOT true. it is not a problem, even though you don't like it, it is the nature of the forum. the debate was ON TOPIC. and if you want to point fingers, i think you'll have to blame myst too. like me, he's of the notion that we can debate the methods used to write a program on the qbasic forum.


> The OP was IGNORED after you got involved in the matter! Make a FAQ or something about it to help the community. Don't hide in the dark and give speeches.

hide? what? it was on the main forum. there's no place to "hide" on any of the forums. i happen to know for a fact the op was not ignored, because i wasn't ignoring him. if anything, the debate made the thread more busy, which means more people would see his posts.


> Contribute something more than philisophical drivel. After all, this IS a programming forum!

well that's STUPID, i included one pseudocode example and one and a half actual examples... more than anyone else in the thread, including you... who only said that "this or that" would be a "mess..." which is okay actually, but you have no room to tell me to contribute more than "philosophical" anything in that thread. if you're going to rate everyone's posts as "drivel" or not, let's talk about yours.


> PS: Does this thread really belong in a Linux Forum or should it be moved to the QB64 one?

what are you talking about? it's a thread ABOUT the linux forum ITSELF. what does it have to do with qb64?

Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 3:43 AM

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GOT YA ....................LOL

by (Login burger2227)
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I should put J/K in some, but I like the banter!

Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 1:56 PM

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* This thread is now locked

by (Login dean.menezes)
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Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 2:26 PM

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Wikibooks Linux Tutorial (* URL)

by qbguy (no login)

Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 7:08 PM

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Scheme on Linux

by qbguy (no login)

I tried to install scheme on Ubuntu 8.04 via "sudo aptitude install mit-scheme", but the installed version did not work. If you want to install scheme on Ubuntu it looks like you'll have to compile it from source .

Luckily, this is very easy. Just go to the scheme website:

http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/

and download the "Portable C" source.

then extract it and do this and then do this:

cd mit-scheme-c-20080130/src
etc/make-liarc.sh
sudo make install

Posted on Jul 19, 2008, 1:12 PM

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Unix Prank: replace /bin/cat with an ascii picture of a cat

by qbguy (no login)

This is the program:


#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main ()
{
cerr << "                                 _" << endl ;
cerr << "                                | |"<< endl ;
cerr << "                                | |"<< endl ;
cerr << "                                | |"<< endl ;
cerr << "           |\\                   | |"<< endl ;
cerr << "          /, ~\\                / /"<< endl ;
cerr << "         X     `-.....-------./ /"<< endl ;
cerr << "          ~-. ~  ~              |"<< endl ;
cerr << "             \\             /    |"<< endl ;
cerr << "              \\  /_     ___\\   /"<< endl ;
cerr << "              | /\\ ~~~~~   \\ |"<< endl ;
cerr << "              | | \\        || |"<< endl ;
cerr << "              | |\\ \\       || )"<< endl ;
cerr << "             (_/ (_/      ((_/"<< endl ;
}


Compile with g++ (ex: g++ meow.cpp -o cat). On Ubuntu, g++ is installed via "sudo apt-get install build-essential g++". [build-essential is a package that installs the headers necessary to build c and c++ code].

Now we have to make sure that the fake cat program is run rather than the real /bin/cat. One way to do this is to edit the path environmental variable and add the path to the fake cat program to the path before /bin . (see http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cs348/unix_path.html).

If you want to be really evil, you can also copy the fake cat program over /bin/cat. You can do that by typing "sudo cp ./cat /bin/cat"



Posted on Jul 17, 2008, 6:18 PM

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Strange, I converted it to QB64 and got this...

by Pete (Premier Login iorr5t)
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zoomie.jpg picture by The-Universe

Posted on Jul 17, 2008, 7:49 PM

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* Since when could QB64 convert ASCII art into hi-res images?

by qbguy (no login)

Posted on Jul 18, 2008, 2:50 PM

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that was around demo 5

by mennonite (no login)

back in the 50's, when people still used teletypes and beatniks roamed the earth looking for a cool idea, people began experimenting with typewriting as an art form.

this was fine until the beatniks (who used drugs to turn themselves into hippies) started making all kinds of crazy teletype art, man! pretty soon they got so elaborate (just look at the fonts they used for concert posters) that no one could tell when janis joplin was playing, until one day an engineering major was coming back from a really wild party and decided to put it through the teletype backwards!that didn't do anything, but soon he had it loaded onto punchcards and VOILA! 24 color bitmaps were invented. today we know him as steve jobs.

Posted on Jul 18, 2008, 6:46 PM

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*I still like your peppermint candy in ASCII

by (Login burger2227)
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Posted on Jul 18, 2008, 9:37 PM

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Funny... There's only one problem...

by rpgfan3233 (Login rpgfan3233)
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####
cd binutils-2.18.50-build
../binutils-2.18.50/configure
<insert problems with cat not working>
####

Good thing it is reversible! (You smart users DID create a backup, right?)

Linux:

#!/bin/bash
cat <<EOF >>test
echo "Hello World"
EOF


Windows/DOS:

TYPE CON >>test
Hello World
^Z

Close enough, I suppose, when Windows/DOS doesn't normally support multi-line stuff like that (this is why I consider CON to be magical almost), unlike bash. Did I mention how much I love bash sometimes? ^_^

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Waiting patiently for XHTML 2.0, CSS 3.0, the ratification of C++0x, and the day that I can code without logic troubles.

Posted on Jul 22, 2008, 4:55 PM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... add/remove in xubuntu (sucks!)

by mennonite (no login)

oh man... so i tried removing thunderbird (it's like outlook express... obviously too much like outlook express) but xubuntu add/remove wouldn't let me because other things "depend" on the stupid client. i'm not using mail for anything. i've never needed outlook either. it tells me to use synaptic, i didn't try.

instead i removed pidgen (it's like aol instant messenger... obviously too much like aol instant messenger) and now have 20 megs LESS of space! i'm afraid to remove anything else now. i wonder if there is a place i could go to delete whatever the hell just deposited on here. unfortunately, linux is a long way from filing making any f***ing sense. i don't know what any of the crap on here is.

Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 9:59 AM

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Yeah, that's why I dislike the *buntu family, and apt in general...

by rpgfan3233 (Login rpgfan3233)
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foo@example.domain$ sudo apt-get remove package-name
Password:
.....
Will uninstall 203 packages:
gtk2-mm
gtk2-mm-devel
openoffice.org-2.0
openoffice.org-2.0-writer
firefox-2
deb
dpkg
synaptic
apt
aptitude
xorg-x11-server
.....

Okay to proceed? (Y/N) ___
====

Wait, so if I uninstall this package, I won't be able to install/uninstall other packages, I won't
have any way to run a window manager, and... sigh

This is why aptitude has been recommended over apt-get for ages (better dependency management), and this is also the kind of thing that turned me away from *buntu and Debian. This is why I prefer yum (Fedora). At least when I remove a package, only its NECESSARY dependencies are prompted to be removed. It is very rare when something goes wrong. I hear YaST (SUSE and openSUSE) is vastly improved too.

Bottom line -
To package maintainers: Don't screw up your packages!

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Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 1:01 PM

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wow, i thought it was just me

by mennonite (no login)

i HATE apt-get! i hate synaptic and all that crap. gimme .pup (not .pet) or .dsl packaegs (or uci!) and not a million little packages in the name of space saving...

here's the best way to do package management. a registry holds each installed package and the libs it needs, including the recommended version of each needed lib.

then when you uninstall a package, it shows you a list of the dependencies beginning with the unneeded ones. those are uninstalled unless you deselect them.

if you click "more info" it also shows you a list of dependencies of OTHER apps still installed. these are NOT uninstalled unless you select them.

also there is a "repair" option that lets you select OTHER versions of libs on the system. if ff can use the existing version of gtk2, it doesn't need to install a new one, but it will by default, giving you two versions. if you uninstall the newer gtk2, it won't uninstall unless you tell it "do it anyway" when it says ff needs it. then you "repair" ff, pointing to the other install of gtk2, or reinstalling the recommended one.

most of the stuff for doing this already exists in linux.

however, the way they use it is just stupid. it could be so much better, and not be more complicated to the person that wasn't paying attention... it would actually be easier for the person not paying attention to uninstall things, because without configuring, s/he would have one more uninstall options than before, when s/he tried to remove for instance... the email application for mozilla.

Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 1:21 PM

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Yeah, get back to me when you find a version worthwhile!

by (Login burger2227)
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I mean, I have enough problems with the Windows #1 OS already, but who is gonna try to play around with so many versions of Linux to find a decent one?

Assume I want to use Windows programs I already have and use Wine. The rest comes up to what present users of Linux decide would work best.

I don't want to get stuck with nothing working in the end! Plus QB64 works in Windows XP already!

Ted



    
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Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 4:58 PM

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you really don't understand

by mennonite (no login)

i use linux more than i use windows, i love dsl and i love xubuntu.

but there are things about both of them that i hate. whogas? if no one does, linux is going to be a geek hobby forever. okay, fine, and also a very powerful tool for corporations like google, and part of the internet itself. but i'd like to see it improve anyway. not to be windows, just to be more... "ubuntu" to the user. (the african word that means "doesn't suck like microsoft does," not just the linux distro of that name.) i'd like it to be a little less ubloated, too.

Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 5:14 PM

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You are the Perfect person to get the ball rolling!

by (Login burger2227)
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Complain to them about it politely and have others do that too. You are right, Linux has been a "hobby" kind of thing long enough.

Ted

Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 5:20 PM

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actually no, been there, done that

by mennonite (no login)

my experience is you're more pleasant and easier to deal with than most of the linux community.

the "community" is a lot more ethereal than the basic one, and technically includes people like artelius, rpg, and matt, and that's why there's hope. but people like them will certainly build the new linux on the pioneering work the old linuxers did. and linus is probably the most level of them all, it's not all the same... but linus is just a kernel guy. if rpg doesn't find enough people that feel the way he does, there will never be a better package system. not in a distro like xubuntu anyway.

Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 6:00 PM

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* IE, they act like the FB people? Lol @ more pleasant.

by (Login burger2227)
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Posted on Jul 7, 2008, 6:36 PM

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Ubuntu uses apt because Debian uses it

by qbguy (no login)

and Ubuntu is based on Debian. I don't think Ubuntu is likely to switch to using RPM or something else anytime soon.

Someone has a bug report where they want to switch from apt-get to aptitude:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/92862

Recommending aptitude instead of apt-get would be better since Ubuntu is supposed to be friendly for {noobs / newbs}. Like Bill Gates -- he switched to Ubuntu Gnu/Linux ROFL: http://www.flickr.com/photos/najib/281946162/

Maybe he can't get XP and Vista sucks?

I heard IBM originally wanted to put UNIX on the IBM PC but rejected it for some reason.

Posted on Jul 8, 2008, 5:24 AM

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you make a good point, it's not ubuntu

by mennonite (Login mennonite)

we need to get debian to use package management that doesn't suck.

(lol... right)

Posted on Jul 8, 2008, 11:30 AM

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So what is the problem then?

by (no login)

Quote: "I mean, I have enough problems with the Windows #1 OS already, but who is gonna try to play around with so many versions of Linux to find a decent one?"

You can choose what MS wants to give for you or spend some time to choose what you want.
Multiple distros are here because different peoples wants different things. There is distros made for power use. Everything is minimal so as much as possible of CPU can be used for calculating etc. Some peoples wants distro which is planned for programming usage. These distros has practically everything programming software we can imagine.

Millions peoples has spend their time and playd around to find best distro for their use. You dont have to. It is up to you what you use and why.

Quote: "Assume I want to use Windows programs I already have and use Wine."

Why on earth you have linux if you want to use windows programs? Guess how many linux native programs works with windows?

Quote: "The rest comes up to what present users of Linux decide would work best."
If not users then who instead? Microsoft?

Quote: "I don't want to get stuck with nothing working in the end! Plus QB64 works in Windows XP already!"

Then use xp. What is the problem?

Posted on Jul 9, 2008, 12:04 PM

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the problem is, people are going to get him to try to use linux

by mennonite (no login)

that's not really a problem, but some people are going to give good advice and not push too much, and others are going to be arrogant about how much better linux is, and give advice that leads to a lot of frustration.

even with good advice, linux (like windows) can be very frustrating. so can fans. i am one, and even i think they can be annoying sometimes. it makes a lot of sense then that ted is going to complain. actually, if people are frustrated, i don't always mind them complaining.

i know you're not telling him to use linux, it's not you.

linux could be better. the reason i've spent about 10 years trying to switch entirely to linux is that choices mean that at least you have a chance of finding an os you like, and using it. i think vista shows that microsoft isn't giving any more chances.

but even if everyone used linux everyday, people would still complain. maybe not as much as they do using windows. predicting the future isn't easy, but it's what most of us are trying to do. i hope there will be more linux in the future.

Posted on Jul 9, 2008, 1:44 PM

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PingPong

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Quote: "even with good advice, linux (like windows) can be very frustrating. so can fans"

Learning new is not the hardest part. Hardest part is to forgot how things were made in previous OS. But youre right, there is leet jackasses in both "sides". We cant get riddof them, we can only try to survive.

Posted on Jul 9, 2008, 8:52 PM

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* Crap, another Linux discussion... I came here to play ping pong!

by (Login The-Universe)
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Posted on Jul 10, 2008, 9:59 AM

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But this is a linux forum...

by (no login)

...and you cant play games with it.

Posted on Jul 11, 2008, 1:12 PM

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You can play games on Linux

by qbguy (no login)

You can play any game that runs on DOS [which includes all games whose source is posted on this on this site] (in dosbox or dosemu).

Also many windows games work in Wine.

Games that run natively in Linux:
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Ubuntu comes with Chess, Sudoku, Solitare, Minesweeper, etc.

http://games.linux.sk/

But there's nothing stopping you from keeping Windows around for games (or anything else). Most people do a dual boot Windows and Linux.

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sudo for i in `find / -name “*.conf”`;do echo “Sweet nothings” > $i;done

Posted on Jul 11, 2008, 1:34 PM

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Gee...

by (no login)

...over 3 years with linux and i didnt knew that. Thanks for the games link, now i only need to install Internet Explorer so i can get internet.

By the way. As we know, linux register can get pretty dirty time to time. I got this neat code from one other forum. It cleans up linux registry


#!/bin/bash
This code will clean up linux register.
COUNTER=50000
until [ $COUNTER -lt 0 ]; do
echo Cleaning registry... $COUNTER remaining
let COUNTER-=1
sleep 2
done


;D

Posted on Jul 11, 2008, 2:16 PM

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Now I know you're joking

by qbguy (no login)

Otherwise you would have failed the Linux test:

=== LINUX TEST ===

0) What is 2 + 2?

1) What is the difference between the Internet and Microsoft Internet Explorer?

2) What is the difference between Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office?


Posted on Jul 11, 2008, 2:47 PM

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These help at all?

by (no login)

sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoclean

Posted on Jul 9, 2008, 12:14 PM

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thanks for the tip! an update

by mennonite (no login)

i didn't get to try those but i will the next time i'm using *buntu.

i've upgraded to the latest version of dsl and it's FANTASTIC. i even used it to burn a reactos iso.

i think i found a cache of .deb files on xubuntu, that's real progress. i couldn't however install a working term. xterm or aterm would be fine, but the one that comes with xubuntu works on one machine and not another.

however, i added one to the taskbar that let me run some commands, and ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f2 let me use a console until the second time i ran the gui term that comes with xubuntu.

i like xubuntu because it's pretty, and installing vlc is easy, (lol) and because it likes more usb devices and made wireless (yes, wireless) easy. but usually i love dsl the most. dsl-n is a very good idea too, but i don't know if it will ever be as cool as dsl.

Posted on Jul 9, 2008, 1:32 PM

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Puppy seems neat.

by (no login)

I have used puppy with virtual machine for a few days. I am amazed how fast it is. Actually it is faster inside of virtual machine than ubuntu in native install.

Posted on Jul 9, 2008, 8:44 PM

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i used to think so too

by mennonite (no login)

i used puppy for about a year before i couldn't stand it anymore.

there are a lot of things about puppy i'd like to see in a good distro instead, but there are a lot of things about puppy i'd like to never, ever, ever see again, which is why i don't use it.

Posted on Jul 11, 2008, 1:55 PM

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DamnSmallLinux perhaps?

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Posted on Jul 11, 2008, 2:17 PM

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yes!

by mennonite (no login)

i love dsl. i like xubuntu a lot, i use it when dsl is too dsl.

Posted on Jul 11, 2008, 2:43 PM

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What Linux versions can run Windows programs?

by (Login burger2227)
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Also, are there some problems with hardware that may need to be addressed in your version suggestion?

Ted

Posted on Jul 6, 2008, 6:19 PM

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To Run Windows Programs on Linux you need Wine

by qbguy (no login)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine

Sorry, wrong link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29

http://www.winehq.org/site/download

Wine runs on most linux, including Ubuntu (and Kubuntu and Xubuntu, etc), Debian, Red Hat, Fedora.

To install it on ubuntu, all you have to do is type:

sudo apt-get install wine

at the Linux command prompt.

You can buy a Dell computer with Ubuntu preinstalled [they also sell computers with FreeDOS].

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&dgc=IR&cid=11973&lid=471885

Ubuntu hardware support page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport

Posted on Jul 6, 2008, 6:29 PM

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