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President's response to the Shooting

November 6 2009 at 8:03 AM
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I was thinking it was just me who was appalled by the cavalier way he handled his remarks yesterday. Apparently many felt the same. I thought it was inappropriate and crass to say the least. Offering shout outs at such a somber and distressful time?

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November 6 2009, 8:45 AM 

Perhaps I  am  being too kind but I attributed it to his stupidity..


    
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As you all know, I don't think highly of this man or his Marxist commitment . . .

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November 6 2009, 10:09 AM 

and he makes a thousand mistakes that most people -- being less narcissistic -- would be far less likely to make. But this is one of those situations where it is virtually impossible to please everybody. You hate to be insensitive but you also hate to let some crap-eating Muslim whiner write your script for longer than you have to. . .

It is a standard Muslim practice to surprise an enemy when the enemy is unarmed and wreak as much destruction as they can on those who can't defend themselves. This is what they did in Mumbai, 9/11, for years in Gaza and Lebanon, and for centuries in every place there were two Muslims together.

No US President has ever reached out so hard and so far to placate them, attributing undeserved credit to their historical contributions, over-looking the fact that they are nothing but a band of water-hole poisoners and child stealers, and pretending that a nuclear bomb in their hands was as safe as one in ours.

And naturally, this has led them to the conclusion that he is either stupid or on their side. Either way, they just become bolder and readier to pull off this kind of incident.


 
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Do we know the facts?

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November 6 2009, 10:32 AM 

I prefer to wait for more information to come in before rushing to judgement on this issue.

Hey guy, I am uncomfy with the part of the Koran that advocates the killing or removal of non-Muslims from a given land so it can be occupied solely by Muslims. And one could extrapolate on that premise to conclude that Islamic extremism has the objective of subjecting the entire globe to Islam.

This guy has served quite a while in the armed services and the service reportedly sent him to medical school. Surely he has been a worthwhile soldier.

In the absence of other input I will assume he succumbed to criticism and went bonkers. However, it seems that someone with that much training and experience could have asked to transfer to a stateside position. I don't
know for sure, but he may have been able to resign rather than ship out. Officers are treated a bit differently than enlisted personnel in that respect.

At any rate it is a tragic thing for us to experience. Our soldiers have enough peril to face in theater without being a victim of one of their own.

 
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November 6 2009, 11:26 AM 

The only issue I was referring to here was the President's cavalier attitude and his priorities. Proper protocol it would seem to me would have been at the least, to first address the horror that had taken place. Personally I think he should have made his statements in a different venue all together, preferable from the White House in a dignified manner without the shout outs and the waving to his pals!



    
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November 6 2009, 11:47 AM 

i think your post was well-said. we still don't know all of the particulars about this incident and as it seems now, it does look like he went nuts; even though it appears that he did express sympathy with the plight of some of the iraqi suicide bombers.

but, this is also an American soldier who was born in this country, not apparently some "sleeper agent". so, i am not yet prepared to start a rant on the evils of islam as there are many, many Muslim-Americans serving honorably in our armed services for whom this action is anathema.

as for the president's remarks, jeffrey i hope you have come to realize that there is absolutely nothing that he could have said that would satisfy the bunch that posts here. fair enough.

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November 6 2009, 12:01 PM 

he showed more outrage over the "ballon boy" tragedy

the guy is a sterile egg

3.2 more years

 
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November 6 2009, 12:02 PM 

That is just not true "Lord Dagon" had he said what he did in the beginning of his speech or had he chosen a separate venue I would have been perfectly fine with what he said. Unfortunately he choose to portray himself as insensitive and ignorant by the manner he choose to address the issue. It was not appropriate in my opinion.












    
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November 6 2009, 12:47 PM 

Barry has got to be a little confused on this issue, Matilda, since his mentors like Ayers and Wright probably enjoy this kind of thing.

 
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November 6 2009, 1:57 PM 

I am not familiar with Obama's response to the tragedy and like you said, what could he have said that was acceptable to hard right wingers?

It appears that my speculation was on track as he seemed to be having mental problems while at Walter Reed. Attached is part of a news item from my homepage, which is msnbc.com.

While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.

Grieger said privacy laws prevented him from going into details but noted that the problems had to do with Hasan's interactions with patients. He recalled Hasan as a "mostly very quiet" person who never spoke ill of the military or his country.


 
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November 6 2009, 6:05 PM 

Here's the ignorant immaturity of our so-called president 0bama that Matilda refers to >>> Barack Obama Gives Odd "Shout-Out" Before He Comments on Massacre

 
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November 6 2009, 6:14 PM 

Actually the gentleman won the Medal of Freedom not the Congressional Medal of Honor.

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November 7 2009, 8:08 AM 

I watched the video that you referenced and it seems that he was present at some sort of conference that was convened for another reason. He was ad libbing but I cannot share your response to the way he handled the news of the Fort Hood tragedy.

The "shout out", which is a peculiar expression IMO, was done before he brought up the Fort Hood shooting and it did not appear to be related to the event.

Given the short notice he must have had I think he did a decent job of announcing the shooting. He was just trying to be presidential and to impart a sense that he was on top of it as a commander in chief.

 
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November 7 2009, 8:46 AM 

The incident had occurred hours before that conference was held. There was plenty of time to make a statement to the American people about the horrific events at Fort Hood and then proceed on to the conference. It was handled poorly in my opinion.


    
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November 7 2009, 9:28 AM 

What would you have him do?

 
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November 7 2009, 10:05 AM 

As he is the Commander in Chief I would have at least had him make the Fort Hood incident a priority and address the American people on that first , preferably in a different venue. The Rose Garden comes to mind. The way it was handled almost appeared as a by the way moment in my opinion. I honestly believe it lacked the dignity and decorum the horrific incident called for.

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November 7 2009, 11:54 AM 

0bama obviously needs to grow up and stop acting like the 'rat party back-bencher that we all know him as.

 
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November 7 2009, 3:46 PM 

I think it would be appropriate for him to deliver a message dedicated to those who have fallen and to those who still serve. Maybe it will come in time but be assured that if it does he will have ulterior motives.

I think the guy's incessant love of self and his style of FDR rhetoric has soured a lot of Americans. We need a better deal.

 
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November 8 2009, 11:39 AM 

Interesting how 0bama heads to Camp David for vacation leaving it to the hated President George W to visit the troops and the wounded at Fort Hood.

 
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