First of all, Gary...remind me to show you how NOT boring an Influence bitch is one day. You'll be surprised.
Two, as far as the Garou are concerned...most of the non-physical stuff was not seen by non-Garou players. You've attended a Moot (or at least a Sept function) while you played Sigaard. Besides, outside of Caern/Sept functions, a lot of being a Garou IS physical challenges...they are Gaia's WARRIORS, after all. Granted, fighting the Wyrm does not always mean killing something, but the Garou were made to do that, and do it well. It's an underlying purpose that Vampire lacks.
However, we are going to be single genre for however long we have to be. We simply do not have the numbers to continue to support multiple genres. So this whole discussion is moot.
Jim |