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Daniel an Angel??

March 18 2000 at 7:23 AM
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I know angels, angels are good friends of mine, and you sir are no angel!!!! Daniel's perception of angels is certainly not biblically based and contradicts the Word of God. Daniel in is ever-evolving book about himself mixes new ageism, eastern religion,throws in some false teachings of Jehovah Witness's, along with some biblical texts to create a hodge-podge paradigm that is decidedly un-biblical. The most obvious example of this, which automatically condemns him as a false teacher/prophet/angel is this statement he wrote in his "book"--

Sure, I admit I have sinned in this mortal life in the past (though not against God; as in pride), after all, I am in human form and ALL humans sin, perhaps except for Christ.

PERHAPS EXCEPT FOR CHRIST!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Perhaps Daniel has forgotten the Christ is God manifested in the flesh and was sinless-and that Jesus created the angels in the first place (I Timothy 3:16,Colossians 1:13-17). Daniel has a strange view of Jesus Christ. But then again, he is no angel of the Lord.

Jim


 
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david

"Why *will* you say that I am good?"

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March 18 2000, 8:38 AM 

Jesus said this to one of the many who gushed over him; I've always sensed a real distress in this remark..."Why will you say that I am good? None but the Father is good..."

Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God, but he was also the Son of Man, and thus (presumably) knew sin, temptation and fallibility.

 
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Jesus affirming deity

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March 18 2000, 9:37 AM 

david has replied (with title "\"Why will you say that I am good?\""):

Jesus said this to one of the many who gushed over him; I've always sensed a real distress in this remark..."Why will you say that I am good? None but the Father is good..."

Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God, but he was also the Son of Man, and thus (presumably) knew sin, temptation and fallibility.

David-you need to understand the entire text in Mark 10:17-18. The ruler came to Jesus addressing him as just a man. In this case a good Master(teacher) Jesus states correctly that if he was refering to him as just a man that there is none good except God. See Romans 3:10 and 3:23. Jesus is stating that if you are going to call me good, you are going to have to call me God-because there is none good but God. Jesus is reaffirming deity not denying it.

AS for Jesus being the Son of Man, and as your say "presumably" knew sin, I would refer you to 2 Corinthians 5:21 and Hebrews 4:15. Jim

 
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Mike Williams

Messiah Complex

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March 18 2000, 11:49 AM 

There are a lot of people out there who believe that they are re-encarnated historical figures. Notice that nobody claims to have been someone unimportant like a street sweeper or a farm labourer in their former life. They were always someone of note like Jesus Christ, Napolean, Cleopatra or Gengis Khan for instance. The delusion of being Jesus Christ himself is so common among paranoid schizophrenics that there is a medical term for it. The Messiah Complex. David Koresh was one, Charles Manson another. Some U.S. psychiatrists tried an experiment one time. They put six people who believed themselves to be J.C. onto the same hospital ward. The result was that each of them thought the others were fakes.
Mike Williams

 
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Complex

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March 19 2000, 10:52 AM 

I would agree with you Mike. Daniel should seek good biblical counseling for his "angel complex" that he is stuggling with. Jim

 
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peace one day

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February 8 2003, 7:53 AM 

have you ever had a near death experience. i have had many and couldst telleth thou many things about heaven and hell and thee tunnel of light and darkness! dost not put a limit on what YHWY CANst DO. we are over 700 billion years old in this creation. our spirit and soul are not a joke but this world is because i was in paradise for a long time and was revealed the nature of thee origins of how sin takes discourses in our flesh because of sin. we have incarnations. read the parables about old and new wineskins. i do not believe in reincarnations but how do we learn and grow. i have a story thee holy spirit gave me do you want this story, also read proverbs 9 verses 1-11. but do ye have faith to believe this. how about incarnations instead of thee word sin in thee ten commandments where it says suffer in your third and fourth generations because of sin,
does not thee holy book of daniel say thee secret book willst be opened up at thee end of thee age! i am a redeemed virgin read revelation 14 verses 1-4 then revelation 7 verses 1-4 i know these angels are human and angels is a greek word which just means messenger for God and there is another name for fallen angels and heavenly hosts. didst thou judge daniel on your own, or did you pray and fast to God for him to telleth thou art thee truth! i have seen the real arch angel michael. my short story is in daniel's forum somewhere. a false prophet has many follower and fasts to please others. daniel fasts not to please God but to clean his spirit. daniel is training to be like an angel of our root! i will not critizie you or your beliefs! Jesus taught forgive all of everything, love God and everything how you want to be treated, and do not judge having love, charity, mercy, forgiveness, compassion, truth, and honesty, in hope, faith, and salvation of love and repentance! i have the seal of the 144000 and have been sealed as one! and i agree with all holy bible verses saying who i am. dead sea scrolls have a verse that says until the messiah and the messiahs sons of aaron return! i am attached to thee most high, thee trinity, and thee seven spirits. i am attached to no religion or empire of Earth because they all are in thee devil's control till jesus comes back on thee mt of olives with thee 14400 to judge thee world for 72 days! my hebrew circumsion and bathing are pure and so is my baptism to thee messias yeshua is pure! read acts 15 verse 1!
i was moses in thee past, and was married twice in that life! tzipporah looked alot like sarah, very righteous pure of faith and white as the moon like thee virgin mary. i am the branch and also the real messenger of the covenant! and i was a sinner. but my other 2 incarnations are a mystery to me. i am a disciple of God, but not an apostle. there is only 12 of them.

and in thee past i was a witch or warlock, but i never worshipped thee devil. God himself had to cast a demon of tempation out of my mind! so in 1998 of octoeber i found out i was moses in thee past and that enoch and elijah are the two witnesses! and alot more about the 144000 and 12 of Christ. all those that judge me evil will seethe thee cross of Jesus, but not those that judge me falsely. all that matters is this message! study jewish circumsion, hatafat dam brit, brit milah and add white vinegar to this procedure! this comes from thee real doctrine and covenants of moses first being thee damascus covenant being part of thee dead sea scrolls. also thee paraphrase of shem, jeremiah chapter 3 verse 16, isaiah chapter 4 verses 1 and 2, book of jude the verse of moses, genesis chapter 3 verse 15 or 16 the verse with enmity in it, i have had a spiritual transformation of my blood and what i saw takes faith to do and see,
peace' michael! enough said!

 
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Refutation of a refutation.

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March 18 2000, 5:21 PM 

It might be that in some cases, (if not all,)-the two,-(it always takes at least TWO nations trading their Fractional Reserve COLLECTIVE created surpluses,-to do the Abram (Gen. 12 vs. 1-5 internation W.T.O. Tango (authorized by his god,)-created from the two Great impulses of any INDIVIDUAL human beings;-"reliance and defiance," which have become assimulated in any nation's racially compatible & accepted religion to accomplish (as the cause,)-of the (before the fact) created occasion of necessities desired effect of always being had in derision to comply with (Ps. 2, & Isaiah Ch. 61, with the effect as presented in (Dan. Ch. 2 & Ch. 5.) (Nothing lasts so might as well be controlled by those realizing it on the Grand Oeuvre Scale.)

The ascetic believer who subjects himself utterly to the will of his god, may simultaniously be seeking the POWER that derives from his omnipotent same thinking foe, or omnipotent same thinking ally, (as the case may be,)-& if the same delusionary belief permits in this same way,-the simultanious resolution of BOTH impulses, then the force of both will be combined.

This may explain the tremendous strength of religious conviction even and especially when the will to power and the will to submission are perfectly combined in the will to submission to omnipotence.

This is the point at which one finds out which is stronger: "the intelligence you were born with from God, or a lifetime of brainwashing controls from those who say they are of God in the name of God as the "ILLUMINED ONE'S," WHO VALUE YOU MORE THAN YOU VALUE YOURSELF. This is not uncommon, for you have been conditioned to take youself off the Throne of Individuality, and put (not them,)-but THEIR COLLECTIVE GOD on the throne in your place.

Since Plato was taught by Socrates, who taught Aristotle, who was married to the neice of Hermius, the tyrant Banker of Assos, our Philosophies have been created from the Plushier side of the equation, which doesn't say much for the impoverished side.

Strange times are these in which we live, when old & young in falshood's schools are taught, & tho one man who dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic & fool.-(Plato.)

Religions eventually result in creating fanaticism, the that for which they were protected. tau19

 
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Refutation of a refutation.

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March 19 2000, 8:04 AM 

There is so much in heaven & earth, it behooves all to consider not only what is known, but what is not known.

If this were more popular, there would be none of the fanaticism against like human's of different ideologies given to confuse God's benevolently given "Common Sense," men were born with.

It's only from all the religion's given the races past-present, that the re-joining of the spiritual and material becomes a no-no by those giving, because it would put an end to the confusion desired of the masses accepting them, & consequently then, a loss of the most important of controls over them, by then seeing the connivance of the priesthood being rewarded by Mammon.

Jesus Christ is the only one that I know of that must die that the whole nation of Israel not perish: (Jn. 11 vs. 50-52,)-and also that the Their Son's of Their god, scattered in, (but not of) the nation's abroad not perish likewise.

Jesus preached a One World that was not of the one prophecied by Set's Prophets, else He would have

 
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