from a guy on the SCTP. They were 3 for $99 shipped. I bought about 12 of them before he ran out. Never wore them and sold or traded off all of them and actually made a profit!! These 3 went to a Doctor friend and he never wore them and just threw them in his safe. I recently traded him a 60's boy size Seiko (30mm) for all 3 of them. They seem to all run great and they look brand new.