Someone can do it more eloquently but the roses had the debut songs five years before hand and knocked another 2-3 out to finish the debut off. SC was Johns album and the lack of b-sides was apparent then. Album tracks as b-sides wtf? was my reaction. Perhaps the quality roses tracks died when the SC was forced out? Thats why shit like AFO was shat out, there's nothing their to mine or produce, yeah im talking roses quality not brown solo stuff. And no not taking away from browns stuff either, i mean even the afo artwork was shit. All this can be sorted with words. to fans. who are waiting. albeit a diminishing fanbase.