- How do we tests for NK cells? Is it an endo biopsy? View entire thread! - SouthernQueen on Dec 7
- Yes - Maggie on Dec 7
- Well -- - minniet on Dec 7
- A study - demomone on Dec 7
- via blood work - THK on Dec 8
- both... - lauranz on Dec 8
- clinic regulations post surgery View entire thread! - Dee on Dec 7
- At that cost, it might be cheaper to pay for another airline ticket - Veesha on Dec 7
- Do you belong to a church? - Maggie in VA on Dec 7
- Re: clinic regulations post surgery - Denise on Dec 7
- How long does it take to wear off? - Raindrops1 on Dec 7
- check out - samys on Dec 7
- Wow, that's a good tip for moms and those - Maggie in VA on Dec 7
- thanks! - Dee on Dec 7
- Dee -- when will you be in LA? - minniet on Dec 7
- next Thursday - Dee on Dec 7
- Email me - minniet on Dec 7
- email address - Dee on Dec 7
- Dee check your email - minniet on Dec 8
- just replied back - Dee on Dec 8
- 2nd ultrasound (pg mentioned) View entire thread! - JAMS on Dec 7
- Congratulations! - Jen in TN on Dec 7
- Congratulations! n/t - Raindrops1 on Dec 7
- Re: 2nd ultrasound (pg mentioned) - Katie Robins on Dec 7
- Try this calculator for dating an IVF pregnancy - Anonymous on Dec 7
- Katie... - JAMS on Dec 7
- So exciting - CrazyLady on Dec 7
- Great news!! nt - Mrs. M on Dec 7
- That is awesome! I am right behind you...next scan is a week from Monday! - Chris on Dec 10
- PIO question View entire thread! - futurebeauty on Dec 6
- You are right. nt - Mrs. M on Dec 7
- Betas still rising day 20 View entire thread! - Katie Robins on Dec 6
- Isn't it nerve-racking?!?!?! - Veesha on Dec 6
- Oh you are pregnant! - Raindrops1 on Dec 6
- Good for you!!! - futurebeauty on Dec 6
- yeah!!!!! - anon lala on Dec 7
- Fantastic!! - Mrs. M on Dec 7
- So crazy - Seymo on Dec 7
- Fingers crossed for you! - Maggie in VA on Dec 7
- sounds good to me - JAMS on Dec 7
- Sounds good... - Jen in TN on Dec 7
- great numbers - keifel on Dec 7
- awesome news - CrazyLady on Dec 7
- Mock EEP to start tonight. View entire thread! - Mrs. M on Dec 6
- How exciting! - Jen on Dec 6
- Yeah...wishing you the best on this next step - Calm on Dec 6
- getting closer! (Success ment) - Julie on Dec 6
- Thanks Julie - Mrs. M on Dec 7
- yeah! - Seymo on Dec 6
- yeah! - keifel on Dec 6
- Great news! Good luck! - Hopeful in delaware on Dec 6
- So exciting! - Veesha on Dec 6
- Embarassed to even ask.... View entire thread! - Anonymous on Dec 6
- perhaps the embryologist came back - anonymous on Dec 6
- They put all in one catheter. - Raindrops1 on Dec 6
- Usually at transfer - Seymo on Dec 6
- Yes, this could have happened. - Raindrops1 on Dec 6
- thank you ladies - Jen on Dec 6
- ED forgot to take trigger View entire thread! - Alexandra on Dec 6
- No info, but sending you hugs! - minniet on Dec 6
- Its perfectly ok - E&H on Dec 6
- Such a blessing on this board, E&H - minniet on Dec 6
- Thanks Minniet - E&H on Dec 7
- What do you think of beta of 25 7dp3dt View entire thread! - Anon now on Dec 6
- Betabase - Raindrops1 on Dec 6
- my old clinic - THK on Dec 6
- sounds perfect! nt - Anonymous on Dec 6
- Assuming it doubles, 12 dpo would be 50, then 14 dpo would be 100 - Anonymous on Dec 6
- It's good! - thesameboat on Dec 6
- Since implantation just recently occurred... - Cathy on Dec 6
- Newbie View entire thread! - Anonymous on Dec 6
- Hi Mamaheart. - Raindrops1 on Dec 6
- Re: Hi Mamaheart. - Anonymous on Dec 30
- Welcome, Mamaheart! - Veesha on Dec 6
- Re: Welcome, Mamaheart! - Anonymous on Dec 30
- Welcome!! - Mrs. M on Dec 6
- Re: Welcome!! - Anonymous on Dec 30
- ER is set for Wednesday View entire thread! - futurebeauty on Dec 5
- Good luck! nt - Mrs. M on Dec 5
- good luck all sounds great!! nt - LMD on Dec 5
- Hang in there! (success implied) - Veesha on Dec 5
- Re: ER is set for Wednesday - Katie Robins on Dec 5
- BTW, last night of Lupron and start PIO tomorrow night - futurebeauty on Dec 6
- Good luck - TWIN MOM on Dec 6
- Re: Good luck - Anonymous on Dec 6
- Are ALL the autoimmune diseases in infertility treated with heparin? View entire thread! - SouthernQueen on Dec 5
- No - - minniet on Dec 5
- plus a course of antibiotics... - lauranz on Dec 5
- Pop a cycst and begin stims right away? View entire thread! - Seymo on Dec 5
- they aspirate it - E&H on Dec 5
- Thanks for the info! - Seymo on Dec 5
- Sounds like there is still some hope for your cycle. - Mrs. M on Dec 5
- I thnk they want to get it in before the lab shut down - Seymo on Dec 5
- glad there is a plan for this cycle! - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 6
- Has anyone heard of VITRIFIED EGG DONATION? View entire thread! - SouthernQueen on Dec 5
- Rba in Atlanta does it... - Maggie on Dec 5
- Sure, but a few thoughts . . . - Maggie in VA on Dec 5
- it's definitely experimental, but it's the future for sure. (success, child, m/c ment) - cotton on Dec 6
- Recommended abstinence before egg retrieval View entire thread! - anonymous on Dec 5
- I was told - Calm on Dec 5
- We were also told 2 to 5 days. - Raindrops1 on Dec 5
- Re: Recommended abstinence before egg retrieval - Anonymous on Dec 5
- We tell the men - E&H on Dec 5
- Re: We tell the men - Anonymous on Dec 6
- Al - Thanks for TCM info! View entire thread! - Anon on Dec 5
- Day 7 after stopping BCP's and no AF View entire thread! - Mrs. M on Dec 5
- It took me 11 days! - Seymo on Dec 5
- What BCP were you on? - Mrs. M on Dec 5
- I am not sure which BCP - Seymo on Dec 5
- I ended up having to take provera - Veesha on Dec 5
- Thanks Veesha - Mrs. M on Dec 5
- Oh, you are much further along than I knew. That is wonderful! (success implied) - Veesha on Dec 5
- Mock cycle is the last thing - Mrs. M on Dec 5
- Oh that's not too far at all - Veesha on Dec 5
- I wonder if your lining is thin if you've been spotting - E&H on Dec 5
- Thanks. I always appreciate your expert input :) - Mrs. M on Dec 5
- I think your lining is thin and you will be able to proceed - E&H on Dec 6
- parsley tea - Dee on Dec 6
- What are the immune tests I need to get done? View entire thread! - SouthernQueen on Dec 4
- Well, a Reproductive Immunologist would run a series of tests that RE's don't do - thesameboat on Dec 5
- reproductive immunologist - Dee on Dec 5
- My internist - demomone on Dec 5
- I'm not in the US, but - thesameboat on Dec 5
- Actually, you do need someone with RI background - minniet on Dec 5
- Sher (no offense to anyone please) - anon on Dec 5
- I agree about getting test results in hand - Ariadne on Dec 5
- Yes, that was my experience, too, minniet - Ariadne on Dec 5
- A few links - Ariadne on Dec 5
- I'm touched View entire thread! - CrazyLady on Dec 4
- I'm glad you double-checked that. I'm sorry it was negative. - thesameboat on Dec 4
- Glad you checked in. - Mrs. M on Dec 4
- you've been in my thoughts and prayers - keifel on Dec 4
- glad you checked in... - cotton on Dec 4
- Thanks for posting again . . . - Maggie in VA on Dec 4
- Hi ya CL - THK on Dec 5
- So glad you checked in, CrazyLady! - Veesha on Dec 5
- Glad you checked in too. - Raindrops1 on Dec 5
- Soooo Sooooorrry - TWIN MOM on Dec 6
- 3rd BFN on a row .... I just can't believe it. View entire thread! - SouthernQueen on Dec 4
- I POAS today at 8dp3dt (nt) - SouthernQueen on Dec 4
- It is too soon to count yourself out - BlessedThistle on Dec 4
- Re: 3rd BFN on a row .... I just can't believe it. - Amelia on Dec 4
- too early (nt) - Anonymous on Dec 4
- yup - too soon - CrazyLady on Dec 4
- Plans A and B (several failures and one success mentioned) - thesameboat on Dec 4
- Or C, it is possible that the embryos were not good quality (pg) - Anonymous on Dec 4
- Yes, of course - thesameboat on Dec 5
- I agree, thesameboat. It's reasonable to consider it might be an issue (success ment.) - Ariadne on Dec 5
- I didn't get + hpt until 8dp5dt - there is still hope n/t - Anonymous on Dec 4
- Ectopic-slight concerns-anyone have this? View entire thread! - Katie robins on Dec 3
- I have not had one. - Raindrops1 on Dec 3
- I did have an ectopic - Jen in TN on Dec 4
- No, but with my very low, strange betas, I was monitored closely for one (child ment) - Ariadne on Dec 4
- How far are you? - Aufrecht on Dec 5
- ultrasound report (pg ment) View entire thread! - JAMS on Dec 3
- Yea! (pg ment) - Jen in TN on Dec 3
- Congratulations!!! - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 3
- Great news! - Aoife1 on Dec 3
- Fantastic news!! - Mrs. M on Dec 3
- Hi Mrs M....to answer your ? - JAMS on Dec 3
- I'm a new patient at SG - Mrs. M on Dec 3
- barge to Mrs M -- if I recall correctly - Julie on Dec 3
- Hi Julie - Mrs. M on Dec 4
- shady grove seems to be popular - JAMS on Dec 4
- Wonderful, wonderful news! - CrazyLady on Dec 4
- 7dp3dt ... And I FEEL NOTHING! View entire thread! - SouthernQueen on Dec 3
- I had no symptoms either (pg ment) - Jen in TN on Dec 3
- Choose to believe whatever makes you feel most hopeful! - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 3
- (pg ment) I don't think at 5dp5dt I felt anything different from other failed cycles - BlessedThistle on Dec 4
- Aoife...how are you? (NT) View entire thread! - LadyMagoo on Dec 3
- Yes, and Barge, L. Magoo, how are you? nt - Maggie in VA on Dec 3
- Maggie, message for you on pink board (NT) - LadyMagoo on Dec 3
- So sweet of you ladies. - Aoife1 on Dec 3
- Good news! - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 3
- That doesn't sound like grasping...(PG implied) - LadyMagoo on Dec 3
- Oh, I left out...(success ment.) - Lady Magoo on Dec 4
- so glad to hear it! - CrazyLady on Dec 4
- @Seymo View entire thread! - Mrs. M on Dec 2
- Aargh! - Seymo on Dec 3
- Hang in there! - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 3
- Can you ask them to check P4 level? - Mrs. M on Dec 3
- Good idea! - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 3
- link - Mrs. M on Dec 3
- Thanks - Seymo on Dec 4
- OMG....how frustrating. I'm so sorry. ((hugs)) - Mrs. M on Dec 3
- Fun Poll: You know you have been TTC for so long.... View entire thread! - futurebeauty on Dec 2
- I saw my primary to have a bunch of blood drawn for the hematologist and they had my sit - BlessedThistle on Dec 2
- LOL!! (n/t) - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 3
- when you tell the u/s tech - demomone on Dec 2
- Or when you tell the US tech - Seymo on Dec 3
- ROFL - Al on Dec 3
- Barge - question about TCM - Anon on Dec 3
- Sure :) - Al on Dec 4
- when you think nothing of - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 3
- I saw this on a number plate on the way to transfer ahaha - THK on Dec 3
- Re: Fun Poll: You know you have been TTC for so long.... - SMRC on Dec 3
- Word mole!! - Anon on Dec 5
- What is a good number of follicles/eggs for a shared cycle??? View entire thread! - futurebeauty on Dec 2
- Good Question - MamaBubbles on Dec 2
- Well, just using some averages for thought...without a calculator... - Anonymous on Dec 2
- It really depends on a lot of factors (success and preg ment) - Veesha on Dec 3
- Re: What is a good number of follicles/eggs for a shared cycle??? - SMRC on Dec 3
- I think I had 17 to myself, my donor - Anonymous on Dec 4
- For those with low betas.... View entire thread! - Katie Robins on Dec 2
- Excellent! - thesameboat on Dec 2
- congrats :) - Dee on Dec 2
- Oh! Great news! - Renata on Dec 2
- fantastic news!! so so happy for you! nt - LMD on Dec 2
- Fantastic!! - Mrs. M on Dec 2
- whoa. - cotton on Dec 2
- Great!! - Raindrops1 on Dec 2
- Fantastic news! Congratulations! nt - Jen in TN on Dec 3
- Wow, Great News!!!! - futurebeauty on Dec 3
- 1st ultrasound tomorrow (pg ment) View entire thread! - JAMS on Dec 2
- Good Luck!! - Hopeful in Delaware on Dec 2
- Sending good vibes! - Raindrops1 on Dec 2
- good luck tomo!!! so excited for you! nt - LMD on Dec 2
- GL JAMS!! nt - Mrs. M on Dec 2
- KatieRobins??? status? View entire thread! - JAMS on Dec 2
- Betas up! - Katie Robins on Dec 2
- Oestradiol levels View entire thread! - Ttej on Dec 2
- I think they vary greatly - E&H on Dec 2
- Crazy Lady View entire thread! - THK on Dec 2
- Barge to Crazy Lady.... - Lovethebeach on Dec 2
- thinking of you here too. - LMD on Dec 2
- i think the issue for crazy lady is... - cotton on Dec 2
- there are options for Crazy lady - THK on Dec 2
- Of course there are options THK... - cotton on Dec 3
- so very generous of you - CrazyLady on Dec 4
- I also have an idea for Crazylady AND - birdy1600 on Dec 2
- This is a sweet idea Birdy. - Raindrops1 on Dec 3
- I'm so sorry... - LadyMagoo on Dec 3
- I would just like to say - Jen in TN on Dec 3
- PIO vs Progesterone Suppositories View entire thread! - MBK on Dec 1
- Re: PIO vs Progesterone Suppositories - Denise on Dec 1
- Re: PIO vs Progesterone Suppositories - Katie Robins on Dec 1
- My RE said - minniet on Dec 2
- i am doing both.... - LMD on Dec 2
- Our RE only does the PIO - Jen in TN on Dec 3
- Couldn't do the shots - Anonymous on Dec 4
- heard back from Dr. Marsh today View entire thread! - Dee on Dec 1
- Good girl! - Maggie in VA on Dec 1
- thanks n/t - Dee on Dec 1
- spelled name wrong above - March, not Marsh - Dee on Dec 2
- Question for raindrops... View entire thread! - Al on Dec 1
- Hi Al. - Raindrops1 on Dec 1
- Re: Question for raindrops... - Katie Robins on Dec 1
- Thanks Ladies :) - Al on Dec 2
- Caffiene before and after transfer? View entire thread! - MBK on Dec 1
- Yep - Dee.S on Dec 1
- Thanks! - MKB on Dec 1
- BFN mentioned - Dee on Dec 1
- Re: Caffiene before and after transfer? - annie on Dec 1
- I stopped all but 1 cup tea/day when I started estrogens . . . - Maggie in VA on Dec 1
- it supposedly restricts blood flow to the uterus (pg ment) - Anonymous on Dec 1
- no advil or iburpofen - Raindrops1 on Dec 1
- A less extreme example (success ment) - Jen in TN on Dec 1
- Congrats - Anonymous on Dec 6
- Also avoid soya products - E&H on Dec 2
- Thanks for all the advice! - MBK on Dec 2
- 2 DE attempts (pg ment) - karma on Dec 2
- D&C question View entire thread! - Maggie on Dec 1
- It really varies (PG ment) - demomone on Dec 1
- no experience and no advice - thesameboat on Dec 1
- D & C bleeding - futurebeauty on Dec 1
- It's normal not to bleed after a D&C - BBG on Dec 2
- For me AF didn't arrive after D&C for 3 months - Aoife1 on Dec 2
- "as the break through bleeding turns" View entire thread! - futurebeauty on Nov 30
- Yes, I think you have enough time. nt - Kacee on Nov 30
- Did you ask questions about the protocol - E&H on Nov 30
- Update - futurebeauty on Dec 1
- One in a million View entire thread! - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- I just dont know what to say. - SouthrenQueen on Nov 30
- OMG so sorry - E&H on Nov 30
- hugs, hugs, and more hugs - futurebeauty on Nov 30
- omg I am so so sorry. - LMD on Nov 30
- no no no no - cotton on Nov 30
- Oh my goodness - THK on Nov 30
- Crazylady (Please read) - E&H on Nov 30
- Re: Crazylady (Please read) - Anonymous on Nov 30
- (((hugs))) - Mrs. M on Nov 30
- Cruel is the right word. ((Hugs))nt - LizLA on Nov 30
- my heart aches for you - birdy1600 on Nov 30
- So awful. - Raindrops1 on Nov 30
- ((((hugs)))), I am so very sorry CrazyLady - Margolis on Nov 30
- Just a quick note... - funintheskies on Dec 1
- I'm so saddened by this news - Ariadne on Nov 30
- Crazy Lady, I am in tears as I write this because I hear the anguish - Veesha on Dec 1
- Dear CL, please stay on your meds and get another blood test - thesameboat on Dec 1
- I am sorry - Dee on Dec 1
- I'm so very very sorry - samys on Dec 1
- Oh no. - Seymo on Dec 1
- (((Hugs))) - funintheskies on Dec 1
- One other quick thought... - funintheskies on Dec 1
- My heart goes out to you . . . - Maggie in VA on Dec 1
- I am so sorry - Jen in TN on Dec 1
- Words are not enough.. - Aoife1 on Dec 2
- Re: One in a million - MollyP on Dec 2
- Thank you, everyone - CrazyLady on Dec 4
- CrazyLady when will you get your Beta result? View entire thread! - JAMS on Nov 30
- can't wait to hear! so happy for you nt - LMD on Nov 30
- Aoife, how are you? View entire thread! - Maggie in VA on Nov 30
- Yes, I've been thinking of you, too - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- I hope you are doing better - Seymo on Nov 30
- thinking of you here too! nt - LMD on Nov 30
- Bleeding has stopped but still cramping - Aoife1 on Nov 30
- Thank you for responding . . . - Maggie in VA on Dec 1
- Beta doubled. :) View entire thread! - MollyP on Nov 30
- How great is that! - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- Smiles . . . - Maggie in VA on Nov 30
- woohoo!! awesome news! nt - LMD on Nov 30
- Thats great news Molly - Aoife1 on Nov 30
- Wonderful news and looking forward to hearing about your U/S - Veesha on Dec 1
- how does clinic define pregnancy? (MC ment.) View entire thread! - Dee on Nov 30
- Sadly, you need to ask your clinic for clarification, but if they say (m/c ment.) - Daisy on Nov 30
- Re: Sadly, you need to ask your clinic for clarification, but if they say (m/c ment.) - Dee on Nov 30
- I agree with Daisy (M/C ment'd) - birdy1600 on Dec 2
- Another thought . . . - Maggie in VA on Nov 30
- Most clinics define pregnancy as reaching HB (MC, child mentioned) - GIMB on Nov 30
- I went to Reprofti in Czech - Aoife1 on Nov 30
- thanks n/t - Dee on Nov 30
- Heartbeat at first ultrasound. - Raindrops1 on Dec 1
- Yep, that's usually when it counts as a "clinical pregnancy", at heartbeat... - Anonymous on Dec 1
- has anyone ever? (pg ment) View entire thread! - JAMS on Nov 30
- I am sure you aren't the only one - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- The last time (preg, MC mentioned) - Seymo on Nov 30
- I was a basket case between U/S's. - Maggie in VA on Nov 30
- Rewiring when pg (pg ment) - THK on Nov 30
- 3:00am HPT View entire thread! - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- Yay!!! - Raindrops1 on Nov 30
- Fantastic!!! - Mrs. M on Nov 30
- Great Great - Twinmom on Nov 30
- That is absolutely fantastic news - E&H on Nov 30
- You certainly do understand - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- FANTASTIC - Julie on Nov 30
- I love this story!!!! - demomone on Nov 30
- How Wonderful! - Dee.S on Nov 30
- very happy for you!!! - karma on Nov 30
- WOW!!! - Seymo on Nov 30
- Woooooooooooooooooooo!!!! - cotton on Nov 30
- transferred 2 day 5 morulas - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- awesome news - futurebeauty on Nov 30
- I am so so happy for you....one cautionary word (pg ment) - BlessedThistle on Nov 30
- I'm pretty confident - CrazyLady on Nov 30
- :) (pg, loss) - BlessedThistle on Nov 30
- Re: 3:00am HPT - MollyP on Nov 30
- Wonderful news! So happy for you. nt - Kacee on Nov 30
- OMG, I am fighting back tears . . . - Maggie in VA on Nov 30
- Great! Now lets hear strong beta.nt - LizLA on Nov 30
- Congrats!!! - Leigh on Nov 30
- WOW - Aufrecht on Nov 30
- so so happy for you!! excellent news nt - LMD on Nov 30
- Brilliant! - Aoife1 on Nov 30
- Progesterone before FET? View entire thread! - MBK on Nov 29
- progesterone - Dee on Nov 29
- It depends how many days your embryos were frozen at - E&H on Nov 30
- scarring & Ashermans View entire thread! - Dee on Nov 29
- I just got this from the Ashermans website. It appears that - Kacee on Nov 29
- thanks for the info - Dee on Nov 29
- The HSG is the one with the dye, not saline. nt - Kacee on Nov 30
- BBG will probably respond here . . . - Maggie in VA on Nov 29
- I've had 2 D&Cs - Dee on Nov 29
- Well, I can't comment on how thorough that is . . . (kids ment'd) ETA - Maggie in VA on Nov 30
- NO!!!! - sas on Nov 30
- thank you, also a question - Dee on Nov 30
- questions.... - sas on Dec 1
- Wow, sas, can't believe I missed your story . . . - Maggie in VA on Nov 30
- I find it hard to believe it all happened too! nt - sas on Dec 1
- My story - minniet on Nov 30
- Dr. K ?? - Dee on Nov 30
- Drs. - sas on Dec 1
- Some thoughts - BBG on Nov 30
- Dr. March - Dee on Nov 30
- I'm sorry, I meant LA, California, not Lousiana - BBG on Nov 30
- question - Dee on Nov 30
- also, another question - Dee on Nov 30
- Not common at all - BBG on Nov 30
- thanks, also - Dee on Nov 30
- I know, my OB tried to be careful too - BBG on Nov 30
- Email address - BBG on Nov 30
- another question - Dee on Nov 30
- I don't think it's the gold standard, no - BBG on Nov 30
- Dr. March in Los Angeles - minniet on Nov 30
- Re: Dr. March in Los Angeles - Dee on Nov 30
- Dee, I'm so sorry & I 3rd the suggestion - Ariadne on Nov 30
- Belated thank you! - BBG on Nov 30
- BBG! - Ariadne on Dec 1
- Oh, I know, I hear you - BBG on Dec 1
- thanks everyone - Dee on Dec 1
- Beta results (x-post) View entire thread! - b&a72 on Nov 29
- Check out the Beta Base - CrazyLady on Nov 29
- Yes, it's a great number. Congrats! - NOLA on Nov 29
- Decapytl depo 3.75 (lupron depo 3.75) View entire thread! - Bharani on Nov 29
- Bharani. You are in a very difficult and stressful situation - Daisy on Nov 29
- I don't know why they add more stress - Bharani on Nov 29
- Its fine - E&H on Nov 29
- Thanks E&H - Bharani on Nov 29
- Did any of you had more than 3 DE fresh cycles in a row and didn't get a BFP? View entire thread! - SouthernQueen on Nov 29
- Read this book in case these are the reasons for no pg - THK on Nov 29
- hi, question - Dee on Nov 29
- We did (children, bfp ment) - Kay on Nov 30
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