NJ gal moving on to this board and jumping in with both feet!!!December 28 2010 at 8:48 PM
|Anonymous (no login)|
Hi Ladies! I am quite excited to be joining you on this board! Actually, can't quite believe my eyes.
After a long and vicious battle with high FSH and numerous unsuccessful treated cycles, I am moving on!!! I will post my stats and formal introduction in short time, but for right now...need some guidance on clinics.
I am in northern NJ, and fairly close to NYC. I am considering one of 3 clinics. Cooper in Marlton, NJ, Valley Hospital Fertility in Paramus, NJ and IRMS in Livingston, NJ.
Cooper has given me a quote in $9k (as in nine) range. Valley quoted in $20-30k range and works only with agencies. IRMS quoted approx. $22k and using in-house donor pool (although they will also work with agencies).
Since I do have insurance coverage for diagnostics (e.g. monitoring, mock cycle, etc.) I'd like to stick to covered REs/clinics given that there is BIG money involved here. But I have an HMO that is not widely available in my area, so therefore I am limited in my choices. In addition to the 3 choices noted above I could also use RMA-NJ or IVF-NJ, although I have not met with either of them for a DE consult.
A. I am hoping someone can provide guidance on the above clinics. Based on stats I think the "winner" is IRMS. I also really like the RE I met with. She was very down to earth, understood how difficult my battle has been.
B. Should I consider going the agency route, or is in-house better?
C. Am I being short-sighted in sticking with insurance-covered REs (although coverage is limited)? Should I cast a wider net and instead consider clinics that may be outside of my immediate area and come at a dramatically cheaper price without sacrificing donor quality?
Looking forward to interacting with you all!!
P.S. - I feel scared but hopeful. I just want to make the right choice about this very expensive option!
my two cents...(success mentioned)
|December 28 2010, 9:31 PM |
Hi there... I have no experience with the clinics you have listed but since you are also in NJ - have you checked out IVFNJ? As a NJ gal who has had luck with her first and only DE cycle, I highly recommend them. They were incredible - I cannot say enough about them. Best of luck to you!!
Re: my two cents...(success mentioned)
|December 28 2010, 9:36 PM |
oops. just realized you already indicated that you have not checked them out yet. I hope you do - my first appt was in Sept 2007 and my transfer was the following February (2008.) My donor was from the clinic's donor pool and I couldn't be happier!
|December 29 2010, 10:33 AM |
Hi-I also had luck with my first and only DE cycle at IVF-NJ and the process was sooo easy compared to my own egg IVF's. They got my donor dead on and I cycled 3 months after going there. I have the most beautiful daughter and am very happy. I tell everyone to just be rational and not set your expectations so high that you will be disappointed. You may not have any frozens but the end result is to get a baby and that is what the RE's will tell you there. I never waited long for any tests and they were a well oiled machine! Good luck!
do you mind sharing?
|December 29 2010, 6:08 PM |
I posted the below response to the other anon responder; would love your input as well if you don't mind.
What were the factors that led you to DE? And how did you end up settling on IVF-NJ? How long was the wait for your donor? What were the end to end costs? Did you end up with any embies/blasts to freeze?
Here's a very personal question and I'm asking it because I am grappling with it. During the pregnancy and since the birth, have you had moments where you were consumed with thoughts of "OMG, she's beautiful/perfect/an angel (whatever superlative) but she's not of my OE" or along those lines? I'm so fearful that my mind will get cluttered with these unnecessary thoughts.
Thanks again for your original input! Happy New Year!!
Some more info...
|January 2 2011, 11:23 AM |
I went to DE after 2 miscarriages and 2 failed IVF's with my own eggs. I had a child with my own eggs in 2007 but could not have another. I also lost one tube after the birth of my first daughter. I decided to use IVFNJ because of their stats and it is 80%. I did not have any to freeze but transferred to 5 day blasts and was originally pregnant with twins on my first try but lost one at 9 weeks. I really have never thought my DE daughter was not mine. I felt so bonded to her and she is so attached to me now. It really is amazing how we never think about it! She is just so beautiful and special that is never crosses my mind-best thing I ever did because I may not have a second child now. Overall, I had insurance to cover the procedure so it cost me about $13,000 out of pocket for the donor and her medication. I literally had a donor 1 week after first going to IVFNJ and she was the most perfect match. I went to see them in March and was pregnant in June!
|January 3 2011, 2:20 PM |
Sounds like you had a really happy ending and that's WONDERFUL!
And it also sounds like the costs were reasonable given some insurance coverage. (Isn't it funny how this journey changes our perceptions in so many ways that we think of $13k as reasonable! LOL!!!)
I do have a question...is the 80% rate you quote a 2009 stat? SART's site has through 2008 and it shows that in 2008 the "Percentage of transfers resulting in live births" was 73% and there were 122 transfer. Still a fantastic rate but curious about the 80%.
|January 3 2011, 9:25 PM |
That 80% was from 2009 when I had my transfer. I think as long as you have no other issues with your uterus or lining, your chances are very high for success. You can email me at email@example.com if you want anymore info. I had such a great experience with this process and I know not everyone does so it is great to share my story.
do you mind sharing?
|December 29 2010, 6:03 PM |
if you don't mind (and I understand if you do), what were the factors that led you to DE? And how did you end up settling on IVF-NJ? How long was the wait for your donor? What were the end to end costs? Did you end up with any embies/blasts to freeze?
Today I called to try and get an appt. for this week but no luck of course.
Thanks again for your original input! Happy New Year!!
I live in California and went the very expensive route the first cycle. I did(child)
|December 29 2010, 12:24 AM |
an agency donor and a very high priced clinic. It was a small fortune and we were not successful. I immediately transferred to Cooper, even though it involved flying across the country. I now have three children, with Cooper's help. I went with the clinic donor pool. My children are 6, 4 and 20 months. I did shared cycles, which made the cost much more affordable.
Good luck to you!
do you mind sharing?
|December 29 2010, 7:33 PM |
Are all 3 children DE? Are they from the same donor? What was your opinion of their donor pool? What was your end to end cost per child?
I'm a little hesitant about Cooper for DE based on their SART stats.
Anything you're willing to share is appreciated!
Have a great New Year!
|December 29 2010, 7:45 AM |
So it is $9,000 at Cooper for everything? Including the payment to the donor?
What does that cover?
Is there a reason you wouldn't do Cooper? That is almost affordable!
I wonder why they are so much less expensive?
I am hoping I will have success with my frozen egg cycle but maybe I could look into this.
|December 29 2010, 7:36 PM |
I am not exactly sure what the $9k covers; that was Dr. Check had mentioned to me during my last phone follow up. I am assuming it is using a clinic donor. I haven't had an in-depth consult yet with Cooper re: DE. I love Cooper for OE IVF; my only concern about DE with them is that the SART stats could be better (IMO).
Here's more info on the program.
Cooper (pg/chem mention)
|December 29 2010, 8:10 PM |
I hate the front office of Cooper, but I can't say enough about the DE program. I paid 6k a few years ago, but I also had insurance which did cover my transfer, meds and testing. I did a shared cycle that yielded 11 eggs with a proven donor....9 fert; 6 frozen at 2pn (they are great at frozen embies) and 2 transferred. Unfortunately, it was a chemical. This past year, I took the 6 remaining frozen to my first RE (South Jersey Fert in Marlton) since I was so tired of the chaos...even have the picture of their transfer! DS is 7 weeks and if you wouldn't know it, he looks like me....thus, they matched me pretty well!
HTH and remember that Cooper helps many of us "lost causes" which does bring down their stats (unlike those that tend to be very selective in who they help). Best of luck!
how much did it cost?
|December 29 2010, 9:15 PM |
Thanks for that info!
That sounds really positive. How much did it cost?
It's kind of unnerving but I have realized I am probably NEVER going to give up on this. And I'm a pessimist so it's like I have to look down the line given that this next thing probably won't work.
|January 2 2011, 11:13 AM |
I gave up after the chemical...almost gave the frosties up...glad I didn't. It truly is a gamble though.
My cost was 6K after insurance paid for some stuff back in 2008..HTH and best of luck in whatever you choose!!
|December 29 2010, 9:03 AM |
is considered one of the top-rated in the country in terms of DE success rates, so I would definitely meet with them before making a decision. You might also want to consider Shady Grove in MD (for their guarantee plan) and RBA in Atlanta (for their vitrified egg program).
|December 29 2010, 7:38 PM |
for the info. I will definitely have a consult with IVF-NJ before making a decision.
Do you know why they are one of the top-rated for DE?
Thanks for the response! Have a great New Year!
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