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Is Progesterone in Ethyl Oleate as Effective as P4 in Sesame Oil?

June 5 2012 at 2:47 PM
DeeinNYC  (no login)

Hi,

Sorry for all of the questions lately. It seems that I am finding new things to obsess about these days. Anyway, I have always taken PIO in sesame oil. I do not have any allergic reactions and such to the PIO in sesame oil. Just the usual lumps and bruises. The nurse at my clinic suggested that I try Progesterone in Ethyl Oleate as it is easier to inject and people seem to have less issues with it. My question is this, is it just as effective as PIO in sesame oil? If it's not, I'd just assume stick with what I've always used. Have people had successful pregnancies with ethyl oleate? Were your P4 levels as good as they were with other forms of progesterone? Thanks.

 
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(Login Blessed_Thistle)

Not sure but think they are equally effective

June 5 2012, 3:21 PM 

I actually had a MUCH easier time with sesame oil! It was a cakewalk vs ehtyl oleate, which give me horrible itchy red lumps and bruises. HATED the stuff!!!

 
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DeeinNYC
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I've read this

June 5 2012, 5:24 PM 

As much as people say that the ethyl oleate is better, I've come across more than a few posts where people had a harder time. I'm willing to try it though if it will make my life easier. Just wanted to make sure that it was just as effective as the sesame oil. Thanks.

 
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annie
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I used both

June 5 2012, 3:44 PM 

In the same cycle--started with the sesame oil then switched because I was having problems injecting the thicker one. My levels were good on both, so I didn't see any difference. good luck!

 
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DeeinNYC
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Re: I used both

June 5 2012, 5:25 PM 

Thanks for saying this. I just really needed to know that if I made the switch, it would be just as effective as the PIO in sesame oil.

 
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(Login jentenn)

Olive oil is also a possibility (success implied)

June 5 2012, 5:19 PM 

My RE switched me to an olive oil base when I got an allergic reaction to the sesame. Never tried the ethyl oleate. I did start to itch by the time I was ready to wean off the PIO in olive oil. (Oddly enough, it doesn't bother me to ingest either of those oils.)

 
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DeeinnYC
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Was Olive Oil just as Effective as Ethyl Oleate?

June 5 2012, 5:27 PM 

Thanks for mentioning the olive oil PIO. Did you find that your P4 levels were just as good on olive oil as when you used the PIO and sesame oil?

 
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As far as I know (pg ment)

June 5 2012, 10:57 PM 

(Sorry for the double posts) I don't remember that they checked my P4 levels after the switch, but I did carry the pg to term.


    
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DeeinNYC
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Re: As far as I know (pg ment)

June 6 2012, 12:02 PM 

Ok..thanks for the follow-up.

 
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Double post deleted

June 5 2012, 5:27 PM 



    
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GulfGal
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Ethyl Oleate vs. Sesame Oil

June 5 2012, 5:40 PM 

The oil is just the suspension that the progesterone is delivered in. It's the same progesterone in either shot, so it has the same effect. The EO is just a thinner substance than sesame oil, so it's easier to inject. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's comparatively easier. Also, they try it for folks with allergies to sesame/peanut/olive or whatever other oil they try to put in the solution. I was allergic to it all, so I ended up with crinone after 8 weeks on the injections.

 
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DeeinNYC
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Got it!!

June 5 2012, 9:42 PM 

Okay..I think I've got it. The progesterone is the same regardless of what oil you choose to deliver it in so it should work the same. Thanks.

 
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Lovethebeach
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I used it successfully

June 5 2012, 5:43 PM 

In all of my previous cycles, I had used PIO in Sesame Oil. On my last cycle (that produced our daughter), I switched to PIO in Ethyl Oleate as it was the only one now covered by my insurance. I had a successful pregnancy! The only difference that I noticed is that in all of my prior cycles, I really never had lumps or anything. With the Ethyl Oleate, I developed hard, knotty lumps on both hips. Even though I haven't used it now since last August, I still have some lumps on both sides though they are much smaller than they once were. I think it will eventually go away over time, I hope. Never had that with the Sesame Oil. Bottom line though, I had a healthy baby girl so I think either will be just as effective. Good luck to you!

 
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DeeinNYC
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Good to hear!!

June 5 2012, 9:43 PM 

Good to hear that you had success with it!! I could do without the lumps...but I guess I will see how things go. Thanks.

 
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sugar
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I've used both (m/c ment)

June 5 2012, 10:31 PM 

The EO caused painful lumps and bruises and I developed cellulitus after my BFP, had to go on antibiotics. It was a nightmare with a fever nearly the entire 2ww and severe inflammation at the injection sites. The PG sadly ended in m/c but I don't think (IMHO) the progesterone suspension has any impact on whether a cycle is successful or not. I switched to PIO for all other cycles and had no problems at all with sesame oil but sadly no PG's.

 
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DeeinNYC
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Re: I've used both (m/c ment)

June 6 2012, 12:02 PM 

Oh no...sounds like you had a terrible experience with the EO. Thanks for letting me know your experience. I hope all is well with you wink.gif

 
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