Looking for DE statistics/info (risks, cancer ment)
June 28 2012 at 3:31 PM
CocoBoston (no login)
I am looking for specific information on carrying a child via DE. I am 45, healthy (height/weight appropriate, low bp, no medications or medical issues etc) and hoping to have a child via DE.
My husband is very concerned with risks associated with carrying a child at the age of 45. I called my ob/gyn who said if my health is good,and the egg is healthy (and young) that I shouldn't have any risks that a younger woman wouldn't have to deal with, with the expection of having a very slightly higher risk for high bp (but just a hair more risk).
DH brought up an elevated risk of BC due to the estrogen/progesterone I would have to take. My understanding is that the hormones are so short term that there is no real risk, but I can't find stats to back this assertion up.
Are there web-sites or journal articles that might help alleviate some of his anxiety about this?
My MIL (born 1916) had her youngest child at 47. Natural, of course. She never developed any form of cancer before her death at age 94.I think your risks with DE are probably lower than your risks with OE, as you don't take the high stims, you only take fairly low dose esrogen meds to build your lining and progesterone to maintain a pregnancy until week 12. Good luck, I hope you are one of the lucky ones for whom it works first time ( like me).
While there aren't lots of women fertile at 45 . . . (kids ment)
June 28 2012, 4:59 PM
There are still a fair number of women conceiving naturally, so you're sort of at the edges, but not beyond the age of natural childbearing. DH probably doesn't realize that b/c birth control and abortion have largely done away with unwanted mid-life pregnancies, which most were in the past. And the real issue is maternal health. Yeah, there are a few issues peculiar to age, but overall maternal health really trumps that. I just don't have a Web site to prove it (others?). DH is afraid of losing you, so he's apprehensive, but he really needs to listen to your doctor.
There is a good bit of speculation about increased risk of breast cancer around the hormone treatment, but as you say, it is quite short term.
Like you, at 47-48, I was normal weight, low BP, no major medical problems. I conceived twins w/DE and carried them with no major complications except for the hormones exacerbating my asthma (one of my fears about becoming pg when younger), worked till 35 weeks, and was induced at 37 wks 5d. when, yeah, my BP spiked. Ended up having a c-section when I wouldn't dilate. In contrast, plenty of younger women in my local Moms of Multiples group had serious complications related to their health, some requiring hospitalization (and I'm not talking about premature deliveries and problems related just to the babies' health; that's a whole bunch more).
I've done 3 stim OE cycles and it went through my head also. I think the real risk is (was?) w/ women taking hormones long term (over years) as part of HRT, as was the case with women treated for menopause with estrogen in the 90s...but I do hear you Dee...
Hmmm... I was never given any statistics. (baby ment.)
June 28 2012, 7:07 PM
I just had my baby at 44.5. I know they consider it riskier to have a baby when you are older but that is probably because the average woman may be less healthy than a younger woman. Like you, I was already healthy when I started the process, low blood pressure, healthy weight, no medications, etc. I did not have any complications with my pregnancy other than the normal annoying symptoms of heartburn and slower digestion. I had an easy delivery as well, as far as childbirth goes. I think your doctor is correct. You will be much more closely monitored during your pregnany because of your age. The doctors will check your blood pressure more frequently.
I also don't think the estrogen and progesterone support during the DE cycle is very significant. It is not the same as if you were doing an IVF cycle with your OE. So I don't think it will be a problem either.
My recovery from childbirth took longer than when I had a baby at thirty. I believe this was mostly due to my hormones related to my age. It took me 2.5 months to feel ok in my girly parts which was very frustrating.
My friend also just had a baby naturally conceived on accident and gave birth at 44. She also did not have any complications.
I hope this helps a little. As long as you have good medical care I think you will be just fine. . Oh, and only transfer one embryo. Twins would be riskier.
Thank you for the kind words Raindrops1. I know - my best friend got pg at 46 **by accident** (which was very very hard to hear) during a casual hook-up. Another dear friend shocked me by telling me that her mom was 48 when she had her in the late 60s - it totally blew my mind. As Maggie from VA says, it does happen - but (long story short) that won't work for me. I'm just hoping DH agrees it will be safe enough to pursue!
My DH was also concerned about the risks....(child ment pg ment)
June 28 2012, 10:39 PM
prior to agreeing for us to complete our family using De's. This was one of the things we asked our fertility clinic Dr about when we had our first DE consult.
He said that as long as I was healthy before the transfer and maintained that health during the pgcy there would be minimal risk. Of course I had tohave a mammogram, ecg, blood pressure, blood work, before we moved forward with our first cycle when I was 48 years old.
I had given birth to our last OE baby at age 43 and had a great pgcy. My health only improved while we were ttc in my mid 40's as I was working closely with a naturopathic Dr., a TCM Dr. doing acupuncture, I took a host of supplements, was practising yoga, swimming, walking/hiking..by the time that we cycled I was in excellent shape when we did our transfer.
I had an easy pgcy with our first DE baby who was born a bit over 40 weeks at almost 10 pounds...so much for pre term babies and blood pressure or gest diabetes for me...I had an easy natural labour/delivery as well with a quick recovery.
When we moved forward when I was 50 doing another FET, I again had to have a series of tests done but again since I had bounced back quickly after giving birth my fitness level and weight/health was excellent. We got pg with twins and again I had a great pgcy....actually it was even easier than with my son...having two 5 pound babies in the womb for me was easier than having one 9 lb 12 oz little guy...they were born again naturally at 36 weeks and 2 days which is full term for twins...so again with no complications, no high blood pressure my 51 year old body did well...they are a year old and surprisingly I'm coping well even though I haven't had a ton of sleep in the last year...that is the hardest thing to deal with but staying in shape, sleeping when I can and drinking lots of water have been the key.
I really think that this is such an individual basis but I understand your DH's concerns especially if you haven't had a baby before...but our bodies know exactly what to do once that perfect embryo is implanted. You just have to be in good shape...sounds like you are going into it and then stay healthy throughout the pgcy. I know a lot of women that don't take care of themselves once they are pg...they eat crazily, they don't exercise, etc so of course they are going to have a higher degree of healthy risks...you just have to be sensible.
As far as the hormones...yes I guess if you are doing cycle after cycle this is hard on ones body. I didn't do any stim cycles before we moved forward with DE's but I would bet that that would be harder on your body than the little bit of estrace and progesterone that your body produces anyway when it is pregnant.
BTW...I wasn't monitored more due to my age....I went in for regular check ups just like I did when I was pg at age 30...although with the twins I did have more u/s's to check on them throughout the pgcy...but no more check ups anyway.
I hope my stats help you...I asy go for it..45 is great time to be pg these days.
Your story is extremely inspirational. DH believes the REs say anything w/in reason to get you to use their services and are driven by money and statistics - which may be true. Both my kids are adopted but I am - at 45 - ACHING to carry a baby. I can't fully explain why. My heart breaks at the thought it won't happen b/c of DH's fear...my goodness...I have such baby fever and I truly don't want to be bitter later about something I can fix now....