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August 13 2007 at 9:21 PM
  (Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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The Taiyo Juki Bobcat. This one is a 22 cal model.


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(Login sgtjohn_1)
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This one is

August 14 2007, 12:03 PM 

not as nice...








 
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(Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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Doesnt look too Bad.

August 14 2007, 12:18 PM 

Ive got a 177 version that is Real rough, but one day im going to scrub it up and get it back into circulation.
Regards Grant.

 
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(Login cx2240)
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This looks like an old Crosman and the QB78. Can you

August 14 2007, 12:33 PM 

give a comparison of the Crosman 2260 with the QB78? I would like to know the preference one over the other. Thanks,

 
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(Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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Comparisons.

August 14 2007, 5:33 PM 

I find the Taiyo Juki similar in looks to the QB78 and Crosman 160's.


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The QB's and 160's can interchange some of their internal parts, but i dont know about the Juki, cause i havent had it apart, and i have never found a schematic for one yet. The QB's have the better trigger unit of the last variation 160's, but the Crosmans have the Class, Lol. IMO. Saying that, there is still a very strong support for the QB's and i have a couple of 177's and a 22 cal for future projects myself, cause im greedy, he, he.

Regards Grant.



    
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(Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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Taiyo Juki. Bobcat. A Better Look Around.

February 25 2009, 10:36 PM 

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Grant.

 
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Rich
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Man thats a Beauty

February 27 2009, 2:30 AM 

Is that a flow thru bolt??

 
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(Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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Hi Rich.

February 27 2009, 8:06 AM 

Yes, its a flow through bolt. I really like this little Juki. Ive got one in 177 cal as well, but its a bit too messy to show on the Forum at present, Lol.

Grant.

 
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(Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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Another Bobcat

June 30 2009, 9:58 PM 

With its Original Box!!

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Two Bobcats. Both 22 cal.

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Grant.

 
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(Login leonardj)
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A look inside the Taiyo Juki Bobcat .........

February 27 2009, 12:12 PM 

I scored one of these interesting little rifles recently, and it was in need of a re-seal, so I figured while it was apart, I'd snap a few pics.

These guns are often referred to as being Crosman 160 copies, but there are enough differences between them, that IMO, "bearing a vague resemblance" would be a better decription.

I didn't get any pics before the teardown, so we'll start at the inside, and work our way out - lol.

The valve is similar to the later Cr 160, but I didn't check how close they were dimensionally. The only major difference in design is the piercing pin - instead of a shouldered pin, as on the 160, the Bobcat uses a straight pin, with a "C" clip to retain the valve return spring.
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The bolt and hammer are very different on the Bobcat - far simpler than the Cr 160 - actually more reminiscent of the older Benjamins.
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The safety is a manual unit - it does not engage automatically as on the earlier models of the Cr 160. I have seen pics of a Bobcat that had a mechanism of sorts protruding from the rear of the end plug/saftey housing, and my conclusion is that this is an adaptation to activate the safety as the bolt is drawn back. The small spring for the safety detent ball was not properly installed by the last person to take the gun apart, and as you can see, it was crushed, and requires replacement.
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The trigger is very similar to the second variant Cr 160. Possibly due to the geometry of the trigger, but it seems to me that the Bobcat trigger is much lighter, and breaks more crisply than my second variant Cr 160. I'll be looking into this a bit more closely once I can shoot both guns side-by-side.
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The end plug is a bit of a curiousity. The gun takes two powerlets, just like the Cr 160, but only the one facing the valve is pierced - the powerlet at the front of the tube is just "in storage" - there is no piercing pin in the end cap. Again, a "C" clip holds the unit together.
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One other item of note on the Bobcat, is the barrel spacer. While it appears to be similar to the spacers that Crosman uses, the Bobcat spacer is made of steel. The top (that rests against the barrel) looks to be an extruded "U" channel, while the bottom, looks to be machined with a ball cutter.
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Normally, it would only take an hour or so to do a complete number on a gun like this, but this one took a bit longer than normal due to someone, at some point in time, having squirted WD40 or some similar nasty stuff into the gun in an attempt to "rejuvenate" the seals. May have worked in the short term, but in the long term, it turned all the seals into a tar-like mush, which migrated all over the place under pressure - YUCK !!!! Many of the parts had to be soaked in lacquer thinner for a couple days to eliminate the crud.

I'll add some pics of the finished gun to this thread when it is done.

 
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(Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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Terrific Post Len.

February 27 2009, 3:37 PM 

Thats been a Badly Needed bit of Info on the Bobcat for Years and Im sure that a lot of Juki Owners will be very Grateful for Your Efforts.

Regards Grant.

 
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leonardj
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The completed Bobcat....

February 28 2009, 7:49 AM 

The gun was in very nice condition to begin with, and after a bit of a clean up, looks even better.

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A few detail pics of the gun.
Top left - the bolt and safety.
Top center & right - the barrel band. Note that on this particular gun, that the word "TAIYO" is molded into the top part of the LHS of the band, and the word "JUKI" (at least what is left of it) is molded into the RHS. Note in the pics of Grant's Bobcat, that his has a smooth faced band, with much less flashing around the edges.
Bottom - these pics show the rear sight, which resembles the Cr 160 very closely, and the front sight which bears absolutely no resemblance to the Crosman.

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(Premier Login Grantthekiwi)
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Very Nice.

February 28 2009, 12:18 PM 

It is a tidy one Len. Ive still got a few of those Bobcat Posters here that I got Printed a while back. I better put one aside for You now that You are a Bobcat Owner, Lol.

Regards Grant.

 
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