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Flying sharks - part III

October 18 2011 at 6:27 PM

William De Coster  (Login eazyprinz)
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Greetings all

I'm getting a bit behind with my slow Hawks

Last time we had painted the Airfix (left) and Trumpeter (right) interior

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Yes... it was my dopey choice to build the new Airfix Hawk together with the Trumpeter and an AML kit - especially the last one is a first rate attention whore

It took me several evenings to get the interior together - of which not that much can be seen

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Meanwhile I continued on the interior of the Airfix and (at the right) Trumpeter kit

The progress of one evening, starting with a wash

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As Vic already remarked - the Airfix kit has a very nice decal for the instrument panel

It went on beautifully - no screaming and shouting involved here

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All 3 interiors almost finished

AML (with PE seatbelts) - Airfix - Trumpeter (last 2 with tape seatbelts)

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How well does the Airfix fuselage fit together ?

VERY GOOD !

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The top front end panel dropped in place without any issues

But I should have taken more care of cleaning up the sprue gate attachment points

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Same on the other side

If I can give one word of advice : do a better job then this big ape (me) when cleaning up this part

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What about the Chinese kit ?

Trumpeter wants you to trap the tail wheel between the fuselage halves before joining them together

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One of the biggest booboo's of the Trumpeter kit :

The interior sits TOO high

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While we didn't need them on the Airfix kit, we needed some pegs assistance for the Trumpy kit

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I have to say, the sprue gate points were easier to clean up on the front end top part of the Trumpeter kit - but that's probably just my fault

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There is some filler needed on the back of the interior of the Airfix kit

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All 3 fuselages now ready for more adventures with Tamiya glue

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I'm still happy with the Airfix kit - though I find the Trumpeter kit also enjoyable

Shapewise there is not much difference between them, fitwise also not...

The AML kit so far needed MORE (much more!) work then the other two together - and shapewise has a slightly shorter canopy opening (see my first post for comparisons)

Wondering what can go wrong with the wings now...

Thank you for the interest Airfix critters, take care blessed creatures


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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Greg in OK
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Sorry I didn't warn you about that cowl top! Soft Plastic Warning!!!

October 18 2011, 6:36 PM 

I was going to post last night but didn't make it. My comment of the Airfix P-40 is that the plastic is very soft. Testors F4U type soft,

Now soft plastic has advantages (in reshaping and sanding) and disadvantages (in clipping off parts, especally small parts. I have the SAME marks in my cowl top and I broke the joystick just in handleing it!

So, it doesn't make me not like the kit and hard plastic can be a bigger pain, but heads up, the P-40 is made from SOFT plastic.

Greg in OK

 
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William De Coster
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Indeed soft plastic

October 19 2011, 5:37 PM 

Next time I will be more carefull clipping off the parts from the tree

I tried to cover the damage with a little bit of filler - but not much luck, currently the models are in a primer, and I "think" it'll be alright

Hope to see a progress report on yours soon Greg

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Hal Marshman Sr
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If I might be so bold as to suggest...

October 18 2011, 7:14 PM 

That area under glass behind the cockpit is not an interior area, and wants to be painted matching the exterior color. On AVG Hawks, the camo separation line goes right down the middle of that area, and is clearly visible in photos of those birds. On some Brit field repaints, that area remained the factory original OD. Discounting the sky's reflection, you can clearly make out the OD in this pic. Nice comparison of the different kits. I'm normally a 1/48th builder, but the new Airfix kit attracts me. Hal Sr

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David O.
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thanks for the additional info Hal. n/t

October 19 2011, 10:21 AM 

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Hall, Tom
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"I demand uniformity in flight gear!" Oh, never mind...

October 19 2011, 11:29 AM 

Great photo, and great comments about building the little P-40's. I LOVE the Airfix Group Build!

 
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William De Coster
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That's a golden tip Hal

October 19 2011, 5:41 PM 

And it is appreciated very much, unfortunatly it's a little late (just a few hours), I already glued the canopy parts on - but I will remember this for my next one

I also note the very subtle panel lines on the front end, wish I could replicate that in an easy way (I'm still recovering of filling and sanding them all on my PR.XIX Spitfire)

Thanks for the pic

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Hal Marshman Sr
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You are Most welcome, William

October 19 2011, 8:10 PM 

I'm sorry it didn't reach you in time. You do nice work. For your further interest, the same applies to P-47s and Birdcage (F4U-1) Corsairs. Further, P-47 Bubbletop planes are OD on the back decking under the canopy.Hal Sr

 
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Malcolm McKay
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Nice in build pics, those are very useful, n/t

October 18 2011, 7:40 PM 


 
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William De Coster
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And I forgot a lot.... ah well, next time - thanks Malcolm n/t

October 19 2011, 5:44 PM 



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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Claus Dam
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Nice progress, William

October 19 2011, 6:59 PM 

Interesting pic the one with the three cockpits side by side. Not immediately obvious that they are supposed to be from the same plane!

I may have missed it (haven't been very active lately) but how do you plan to finish these? Not all AVG, I assume?

Have started on my Hawk 81 but with nothing to report that hasn't already been mentioned, I'll just wait with a post till I have something new to contribute.

Don't think any one kit ever got this much attention in this forum before. But well deserved - it really is a little gem.

Great work on all three, William. Looking forward to your next WIP report.
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William De Coster
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195.144.82.254

I think there is a new theme running here

October 20 2011, 4:06 PM 

The New Hawk GB happy.gif

No final choices made yet about the schemes - but initially I thought about one US Army, one AVG and one desert RAF, all with shark mouts... but some members of this threesome party aren't very cooperative and I'm looking now for some "boring" schemes to punish them

Hope to see posts of your Jag and P-40 progress soon Claus

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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KeithR
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I just finished my Airfix....

October 20 2011, 2:10 PM 

...Hawk this afternoon,& the absolute worst part of the build for me were the wheels! I'd fixed the u/c legs in place before spraying as I normally do & when I then tried to stick on the wheels with their nicely moulded flats using Airfix's 'good idea' lug to ensure they are in the right position, the tolerances were so tight that the paint on the lugs, & that on the fixing hole in the wheels (from painting the back of the hub), meant that they just wouldn't fit. And of course the legs are pretty much to scale & were wobbling dramatically as I tried to scrape the paint off!! I really thought I was going to break them, but finally got the wheels on. Then came the separate hubs - I'd also painted these, & when painting the tyres some paint had also got on the inside of those. So, forearmed I scraped all the paint off all the mating surfaces & then dropped the hubs in. Oh no I didn't! I had to take a scalpel & coarse sanding stick to both the sides of the hubs & the back as they were too deep, & scrape a lot more material off the inside of the wheels before once again I had to force them into place on the wobbly legs!!

Just a heads up, hopefully it was just me!!

Keith

 
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William De Coster
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195.144.82.254

Aha - good point Keith

October 20 2011, 4:14 PM 

I hadn't thought about this yet - and I'm now wondering to put the "thinned down" (as per your experience) wheel hubs on while it's all still unpainted... but I'm not there yet, still a long way to go (the AML kit slows me down very much)

The u/c looks indeed pretty much to scale - and fragile - just like the wing guns, so far I have'n knocked them off yet, though I bended one slightly... that's how it usually starts

Thanks for the tips - I will use them !



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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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