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Flying sharks - part IV

October 20 2011 at 5:17 PM

William De Coster  (Login eazyprinz)
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Greetings all

I'm still having fun with the new Airfix Hawk 81 (at the left) which I try to build together with the Trumpeter rival (middle) and one of the AML Hawks (right)

... all ready for some wings

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I decided to glue the top wing to the fuselage first

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With just a little glue to put the upper wings in place

And then run some more glue at the bottom along the joints

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I don't like sanding

Looks like I don't have to do much sanding here

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When the glue has ALMOST (giving room for shifting if needed) settled - bring in the full span underwing

I start with glue in the middle - at the front...

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... and at the end

Nice fit

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But I joined upper and bottom wings first for the other kits

And they needed some peg magic

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Trumpeter kit :

Rats... why didn't I first glue the upper wings to the fuselage ?

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The AML kit was even worse - that was SHEER horror - I will post this in a seperate post on the 1/72 GB forum shortly

On to the cowling parts (or whatever you call it...)

Both with some kind of slots (Airfix on the right)

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As Vic already showed/explained - removing the slot on the Airfix kit makes life a little easier

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... and the same goes for the Trumpeter kit

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Note the cut mark due to the soft plastic (as pointed out by Greg) on the Airfix kit (right)

I'm sure with more care this can be prevented

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The Airfix rudder... didn't entirely fit - bottom "touching" points a little too long

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Trumpeter (right) had another booboo - with rudder "arms" (or whatever you call them) on BOTH sides... easily remedied though

Airfix (left) was correct with this feature only on port side

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I found them too basic and decided to cut them all off

And shorten the rudder at the bottom in length - giving me a much better fit

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Horizontal stabs WITHOUT glue - to show you the good fit

After this picture I dropped some Tamiya glue on the joints for sealing

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I like the "open" option for the cowling flaps (or whatever you call them) on the Airfix kit

Trumpeter (right) offers only closed flaps

Both pieces went on beautifully

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Only yesterday evening I discovered Airfix provided also a "closed" option (!!!)... while reading the current Airfix Model World magazine (which has a nice feature on this new kit)

I checked my sprues... and whaddyaknow

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Canopies, Airfix left - Trumpeter right

Trumpeter offers a separate windshield, which in my opinion only complicated things a little bit more

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Only a few hours later I read Hal's useful tip on the interior colour of the cockpit rear part - being OD - so I have the wrong colour there - interior green sad.gif

But I will come back later on the canopies

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My Mr Surfacer 1500 rattle can didn't have much rattle anymore, and all I could find was Tamiya Fine Surface Primer - as used by Vic

It worked marvellous - though it didn't smell as nice as Mr Surfacer happy.gif

Trumpeter left - Airfix right... note differences in guns, and I didn't knock them off on the Trumpeter kit

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The primer revealed indeed deeper panel lines at the rear - as mentioned by Vic - so I cured them with Mr Surfacer 500 "from the jar"

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I still had to install the control "arm" for the rudder - but google (not me happy.gif) failed to give me good reference shots of this

Then I remembered Flying Legends 2007 at Duxford where I saw The Real Hawk for the first time

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One of my pictures gave me "some" idea to work on

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Ten minutes later, small parts of a 3 mm plastic rod did the job pretty well

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Ready for paint now... and I still don't know what schemes sad.gif

AVG, US Army, RAF... and what on which model... I think I have to ask my GF as she always knows everything - but then one of them might end up with Czech markings

Anyway, thanks for your time Airfix critters, hope this was useful

Take care


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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God


    
This message has been edited by eazyprinz from IP address 195.144.82.254 on Oct 20, 2011 5:22 PM


 
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Steve Heeb
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Isn't it great when...

October 20 2011, 5:29 PM 

you can pull up your own reference photos for a project?!!

Great experiment and I love seeing the updates. Keep it up and we'll all be watching like a, um, hawk.


Thanks for sharing.

Steve Heeb; Puyallup, WA
In fond memory of Loran B Heeb
"Ol' Scrapiron"
447th BG; Rattlesden England

 
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William De Coster
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It sure is good to have your own reference photos

October 23 2011, 4:57 PM 

But I still need to work on the focus points, as the part you really want to see is often not in the center, as I discovered now

I hope to put some paint on them this week, and finish them soon, so I can compare the final shapes of these things - I'm pretty curious for this

Thanks for dropping in Steve

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Greg in OK
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Just excellent! Things are moving along despite making 3 different kits at the same....

October 20 2011, 5:57 PM 

Looks great so far, NICE tip on the top wings, I should have done mine that way!

Greg IN OK

 
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William De Coster
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Well the Airfix and Trumpy kit are moving along well...

October 23 2011, 5:48 PM 

The AML kit on the other hand... that build is not in 5th gear, it's more like in reverse gear

Thanks for the comments Greg, appreciated

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Dermot
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Very sharp Sharks William!

October 20 2011, 6:07 PM 

Another of your "settle-back-with-a-cup-of-coffee-and-enjoy" posts.

I don't know where you get your energy young man; three kits at the same time, all looking very tasty!

Thanks for posting.

Dermot

 
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William De Coster
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I wish I win the lottery

October 23 2011, 5:50 PM 

So I can build whole days, now work and private life often interrupts me (like this weekend)

I hope I can finish all 3 soon, and it will not become something like most of my builds, "month projects"

Thanks Dermot

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Stuart Milliken
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Lovely work

October 20 2011, 8:29 PM 

Can't wait to see what schemes you choose.

Stuart

 
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William De Coster
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I still don't know

October 23 2011, 5:52 PM 

The schemes will be most likely one AVG and one US Army - the other one RAF, but which RAF scheme... and which kit in which scheme is still undecided so far... hmmm, need to decide soon !

Thanks Stuart

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Ted Preston
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Super Sharks!

October 20 2011, 10:00 PM 


 
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William De Coster
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And I still forgot many things Ted

October 23 2011, 5:54 PM 

I should have highlightened the differences in canopies more... and the area under these "rear" glasses... ah well - maybe next time, because I think I will build another one, as I like this subject

Thanks for the comments Ted, always appreciated

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Graham Carter
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Impressive build William - must get myself a mousetrap!!

October 20 2011, 10:44 PM 

THanks for the step-be-step build advice - excellent service.

 
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William De Coster
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Don't forget a rat trap

October 23 2011, 5:58 PM 

For bigger problems - I need that sometimes too happy.gif

Really !

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Thanks for the comments Graham

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Malcolm McKay
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Excellent modelling there William, watching with interest, n/t

October 21 2011, 12:29 AM 


 
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William De Coster
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Naah this is just basic glueing together

October 23 2011, 6:00 PM 

Wait until you see my next post - about the AML P-40 - that's true Airfixing happy.gif

Thanks Malcolm

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Fred Coulson
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Terrific work William

October 21 2011, 5:38 AM 

I cant wait for it to arrive at my LHS.

Thanks for the progress report

Fred Coulson

 
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William De Coster
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I hope these P-40s land soon in your back yard Fred

October 23 2011, 6:02 PM 

It's a nice kit - and I think I will get myself another one soon

Thanks for the comments Fred

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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Luigi Cavazza
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A mouse trap?!?....

October 21 2011, 9:12 AM 

For the refined modeller there is no limit in the choice of the tools happy.gif

Anyway, great production william. I am curious to see the colors you will chose
Ciao
Luigi

 
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seafirexv
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I thought the same thing! Seems like it works though

October 21 2011, 11:31 PM 

good idea....


 
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William De Coster
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Been using them for some years now

October 23 2011, 6:06 PM 

I have 3 or 4 - and in summer time they are off duty as mice tend to hang around outside then - and not in my hobby room

I can speak highly of them sir... the mouse traps that is happy.gif

Thanks

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William De Coster / Belgium be.png / past builds on HS : Plastic Stories

1/72 - Airfix - Spitfre PR.XIX : Part I (incl Flying Legends 2011 show report) - Part II - Part III - Part IV (incl. Pilsenkit 2011 show report pt.1/2)
1/72 - Airfix, Trumpeter and AML - Curtiss Hawk 81 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV new.gif
1/72 - AGA - Polikarpov I-3 : Part I - Part II - Part III - Part IV - Part V

Just like the perfect woman doesn't exist, I will never build a perfect model.
Puts me on a par with God

 
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