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Poly-Ticks
Many years ago, politics was something that was not first and foremost on the average citizen's mind. At that time I considered myself apolitical. As politics permeated more and more of our daily lives, things changed.
Now, things have gone far beyond politics as we knew it, and "politics" is much an outdated word, I think. Have you noticed how, more and more, words like coup d'etat, conspiracy, deception, fraud, etc. are associated with what used to be politics and government?

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Gunny G: Speaking of Coups...

Conspiracy In Philadelphia, 1787 By: Dr. Gary North
Origins of The U. S. Constitution By: Dr. Gary North
We Did Not Keep The Republic! We Blew it...
America�s Coup D��tat in the Making: Deception and Self-Deception by Claes G. Ryn
The Founding Fathers Great Mistake By: Garrett Epps
Why an Income Tax is Not Necessary to Fund the U.S. Government
What is it that Barack Obama knows that the rest of us don�t? By: Judi McLeod
(^Is November 4, 2008 more a coup d�etat than it is a general election?
Is Election �08 a mere formality?^)

A Coup d'Tat? By: Joan Swirsky
Beware of The Red Dot! By: Alan Stang
AMERICA REDUCED TO THIRD WORLD STATUS By Joan Veon
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION: ONE GIANT FRAUD By: Devvy
Climategate: Barack Obama’s rule by EPA decree is a coup d’etat against Congress...
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McCain Not A US Citizen, Can't Be President?

February 28 2008 at 10:11 PM
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McCain Not A US Citizen, Can't Be President?
2-28-8


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.

-- The Constitution of the United States, Article II Section 1

McCain was born at Coco Solo Air Base in the Panama Canal Zone, August 29, 1936. The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. TERRITORY from 1903 to 1979, so, any person born there was automatically considered a U.S. citizen, except if born to foreign diplomatic personnel.

Excerpted from http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf

7 FAM 1116 KEY PHRASES USED IN THE 14th AMENDMENT AND IN LAWS DERIVED FROM IT

7 FAM 1116.1 "In The United States"

7 FAM 1116.1-1 States and Incorporated Territories

(TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)

a. The phrase "in the United States" as used in the 14th Amendment clearly includes States that have been admitted to the Union. Sections 304 and 305 of the INA provide a basis for citizenship of persons born in Alaska and Hawaii while they were territories of the United States. These sections reflect, to a large extent, prior statutes and judicial decisions which addressed the l4th Amendment citizenship implications of birth in these and other U.S. territories. Guidance on evidence on such births should be sought from CA/OCS.

b. Sec. 101(a)(38) INA provides that, for the purposes of the INA, The term "United States",... when used in the geographical sense, means the continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands of the United States.In addition, under Pub. L. 94-241, the "approving Covenant to Establish a Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands in Political Union with the United States of America", (Sec. 506(c)), which took effect on November 3, 1986, the Northern Mariana Islands are treated as part of the United States for the purposes of sections 301 and 308 of the INA.

c. All of the aforenamed areas, except Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands, came within the definition of "United States" given in the Nationality Act of 1940, which was effective from January 13, 1941 through December 23, 1952.

d. Prior to January 13, 1941, there was no statutory definition of "the United States" for citizenship purposes. Thus there were varying interpretations. Guidance should be sought from the Department (CA/OCS) when such issues arise.


Here are the exemptions...

7 FAM 1116.1-4 Not Included in the Meaning of "In the United States"


(TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)

a. A U.S.-registered or documented ship on the high seas or in the exclusive economic zone is not considered to be part of the United States. A child born on such a vessel does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth (Lam Mow v. Nagle, 24 F.2d 316 (9th Cir., 1928)).

b. A U.S.-registered aircraft outside U.S. airspace is not considered to be part of U.S. territory. A child born on such an aircraft outside U.S. airspace does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth.

c. Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

However, there is THIS...

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe * Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S. * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national * Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year * Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21 * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time) * A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

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