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After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 22 2007 at 1:14 PM
peter chao  (Login pchaos)

 
Most people would consider the '52 Topps high numbers to be pretty scarce. How about after these high numbers? Out of the other Topps sets which high number series is the next scarcest? Perhaps you don't agree with the '52 Topps high numbers as being the scarcest.

Peter C.

 
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Ted Zanidakis
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Have you ever heard of the 1949 Leaf SP's ?

August 22 2007, 1:28 PM 

PETER C

Try the 1949 Leaf scarce series.

Start by reading my 1949 Leaf BB article in the OLD CARDBOARD (OC) magazine....or, if you don't subscribe to OC, then
just read more posts on Net54....the scarcity of the Leaf 2nd series cards (otherwise known as Short Prints) have been
discussed numerous times on this forum.

The 49 cards in this 2nd series of Leaf's are an order of magnitude tougher than the 97 Hi@s in the 1952 Topps issue.

And, just as tough as these Leaf SP's, if not tougher, are the 36 cards of the 1949 Bowman PCL set.

TED Z


    
This message has been edited by tedzan on Aug 22, 2007 1:30 PM


 
 
Anthony
(Login Griffins97)

Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 22 2007, 4:21 PM 

I might just be on a run of hard luck, but I've found the '50 Bowman low numbers to be a lot tougher than some of the other "scarcer" series cards. They are certainly tougher than high numbers in '51 Bowman, or '55, '66 or '67 Topps, and the 2nd series of '57 Topps.
Agreed on the Leaf sp's- at least you can find '52 hi's, you can get stuck forever on finding Leafs in any condition.

 
 

Chris Counts
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After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 23 2007, 6:56 PM 

I've had a theory for years that the true test of a scarce series is how difficult it is to obtain the cards in nice shape. The 1950 Bowman low numbers, for instance, seem way tougher to find in nice shape than the rest of the cards in the set. 1967 Topps high numbers, on the other hand, are often found in great shape. Back in the 70s, a collector once showed me an incredible stash of '67 high numbers, all in seemingly perfect condition. Seeing a bunch of supposedly rare cards in great shape makes me very suspicious. It seems to me they were not short-printed, but rather had a limited distribution during the season when they were printed ...

 
 
peter chao
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Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 23 2007, 7:49 PM 

Although the '75 minis came out in one series, their distribution was limited to only parts of the U.S., they seem difficult to find in nice condition. Much more difficult to find than the '75 Topps regular set.

Peter C.

 
 

Dave Hornish
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Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 23 2007, 7:58 PM 

If you stick with Topps, the 61 highs were once thought to be tougher than they are now. Those 67's (and also 66) are tough because of some shortprints but are plentiful enoguh overall. I searched some Topps Hi #'s completed listings on Ebay and here is what I found (includes lots, singles, etc. I just counted "hits"):

52T = 34
53T = 83
57T (mid) = 100
59T = 316
61T = 163
62T = 100
63T = 132
64T = 108
65T = 136
66T = 124
67T = 148

1960 returned too many hits, it picked up all 1960's highs. Very unscientific but it certainly shows how tough 52's are in comparison to other Topps high #'s. But if you want NM cards, the 62, 63, 70 and 71's are going to be harder because of the colored borders.

 
 

dennis
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Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 23 2007, 8:08 PM 

good post dave, with the topps hi ,they are a lot easier w/bay then the old show and scd days. i found that completing the 56,58,64,65 were pretty easy pre-ebay because of the hi #'s not being not hard to find at all. where as i had ahard time getting the hi's on 61-66 and 67.

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

1967 Hi # cards scarcity

August 23 2007, 8:17 PM 

DAVE H

My experience collecting 67T Hi#s and helping others with their wantlists boils down to these 17 cards being the toughest....

Barker
Boswell
Cardwell
Clendenon
Ferrera
Krausse
Red Sox Team card
Rojas
Schneider
Shannon
Shaw/Sutherland Rookies

All of the above 11 cards happen to occupy the same row on the Hi# sheet....interesting ?

Also, I'll add....

Sandy Alomar
Jim Bunning
Norm Cash
Rocky Colavito
Wes Westrum
White Sox team card.

TED Z

 
 

Dave Hornish
(Login dsh46)

Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 23 2007, 8:18 PM 

Some 67's were fairly tough for me and cost a lot more than others (see my post below on 1967 Hugh Number uncut sheets) and not everything corresponded to the guide's SP listings. I gave up on the Topps sets prior to 67 so can't say for certain how difficult the 66 SP's are. Some like the 66 Choo Choo Coleman were going for crazy money last year (one in VG-EX went for $90!) but have leveled. I looked for months for a reasonable one, then found two last year with the same dealer at Hofstra (Joe Esposito) who let me pick one for $5 in EX/MT. I left the other one behind for someone else to buy. But some 67 high's in EX/MT were $40 or $50 when I finished off the set with very competitive bidding. Others were $3., including some SP's.

 
 
peter chao
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Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 23 2007, 8:26 PM 

Dave,

Thanks for your list. Apparently the '57 Topps mid-high series is pretty difficult to find.

Peter C.

 
 

Andrew
(Login 67standup)

sort of replying to the question

August 23 2007, 9:30 PM 

I know you asked about Topps, but 1965 OPC hi-numbers are quite tough. For those who use pop reports as a gauge, the numbers substantiate this. And for those who may not know, 1974 is a very tough OPC year. I realize low OPC demand plays into the low pop numbers.

off tangent...I've never seen a 1965 unopened OPC wax pack, one collector remembers having three about 15 years ago. However, I nobody I know has or has seen a 1969 OPC pack.

"Take your life in your own hands and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame." -- Erica Jong

 
 

Dave Hornish
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Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 23 2007, 10:46 PM 

57 Topps mids are pretty tough. And I didn't search but some Bowman hi's must be more difficult than these.

OPC is tough, especially in nice shape, as well but can they really be said to include high numbers?

 
 

Andrew
(Login 67standup)

OPCs

August 23 2007, 11:00 PM 

Not sure which OPCs were issued in series, but fairly certain that 1965 was. Maybe 1970-1974 also.

"Take your life in your own hands and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame." -- Erica Jong

 
 

scgaynor
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Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 27 2007, 3:53 PM 

For Topps, 1961 and 1962 hands down.

Scott

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

1949 Bowman Hi #s

August 27 2007, 4:18 PM 

DAVE H

The 1949 Bowman regular issue 108 Hi #s (#145 - 240 + the 12 variations) are just as tough as the 1952 Topps 97 Hi #s.

Especially, the 1949 Bowman's #145 -180, which are even tougher than the other 72 Hi #s in this set.

TED Z


 
 
peter chao
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Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 27 2007, 5:05 PM 

Ted,

Thanks for explaining to me why I'm having difficulties finding the the Duke Snider in the '49 Bowman High Nos.

Peter C.

 
 

Paul S
(Login p_spec)

'49 Bowman Snider

August 27 2007, 5:54 PM 

...and why it's very very pricey when you do find one.

 
 
Frank Evanov
(Login mantlefan)

Re: After the '52 High Nos. What is the Scarcest High No. Series

August 27 2007, 7:17 PM 

1957 Topps 4th series is a killer. The Koufax in that series is especially hard to find in high grade.

Frank

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

1949 Duke Snider rookie

August 27 2007, 9:04 PM 

PETER....PAUL

Perhaps, the reason you can't find Snider cards too easy, is because I have four of them. here is my most unusual one.

An extremely rare SLATE background (color error) example of "The Duke"......Gee, is that a great smile....or what ?

This card (#226), as the Paige (#224) and Ashburn (#214), are very tough to find....not only because they are highly
sought after HOFer/rookie cards.....but, you have to appreciate that the 1949 Bowman Hi# series (108 cards) are really
tough to find.

And, because of this scarcity factor, they have become very expensive.....it boils down to the old law of "supply vs demand".

TED Z




 
 
George L
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What are the 12 1949 bowman variations

April 3 2009, 1:01 AM 


 
 
 
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