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Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 9 2009 at 9:04 AM
  (Login Pugilistica_Dave)

I'm kicking myself for forgetting to bid on this. I just don't see it pop up very often. Somebody got a bargain IMO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220354988276


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Anonymous
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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 10 2009, 7:23 PM 

Nice. That was a bargain. I have owned a couple of those in the past, and the last one I sold in a lot worse condition went for over 3 times the amount.

They are tough to find, even in Australia.

 
 

boxingcardman
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I forgot to bid

February 10 2009, 11:01 PM 

My wife says "Iforgot" should be my middle name but unlike making the bed or taking out the trash, I actually care about cards.

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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 11 2009, 10:33 AM 

I know you're not a big fan of overseas cards Adam but good catch if you won it.

David, I figured they couldn't be too common even in Australia or more would have surfaced in the internet age..........like the Les Darcy BDV cards.


 
 


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Nope, wasn't me

February 11 2009, 11:10 AM 

As I said, I forgot to bid. I even had the ebay reminder but I ignored it because something else was going on and I assumed I'd just remember to go back. Big mistake.

I don't hate overseas cards, I just don't trust that the supplies on many of them (esp. the British ciggie issues, Rekord and Panini) aren't being manipulated. I've actually got quite a few international cards, esp. when the boxer is one I need who isn't in an American set. Many of the prewar European Jewish fighters and athletes simply cannot be found elsewhere, e.g., Moise Boquillon, Young Perez, Danny Frush, Harold Abrahams, Harry Mitzler, etc.; and there are some really attractive cards too. That said, I'm definitey biased towards American issued cards.

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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 11 2009, 11:44 AM 

OK, we both forgot then. happy.gif

If I was smarter and less old fashioned I'd use a sniping program instead of hoping I'd remember.

I'm not really worried about the manipulation of the British cards. By now it's fairly well known what's common and what's tougher.

The Panini's, like the Italian Post Office has always been erratic and all over the board though. Not sure I'd invest long term in even some of the supposed rarer sets. I wouldn't be surprised if cases of these were slowly being broken up by dealers as we speak.


 
 


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The difference between stupidity and genius

February 11 2009, 1:18 PM 

is that genius has its limits...Albert Einstein

Snipe programs are great; I use one. Of course, you have to remember to enter the item into it. D'oh!

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David Hanvey
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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 13 2009, 6:59 AM 

"David, I figured they couldn't be too common even in Australia or more would have surfaced in the internet age..........like the Les Darcy BDV cards."

Dave,
They are 1,000 times harder to find down here than the BDV cards. I could get a BDV Darcy card (or even all 6 of them) tomorrow if I tried hard enough. After finding the first two Ogden's Jackson cards pretty easily, I haven't been able to locate one in over a year !

That being said, I am still looking for that elusive Fitzsimmons N174. That's only been about a 5 year exercise happy.gif

 
 

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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 13 2009, 7:05 AM 

And speaking of international cards, they just don't get the love they deserve. No doubt that some of those panini's that are considered rare probably aren't, but some other cards that should be getting the love just don't.

One Aussie example is the 1949 Vic Nuts Joe Louis card. The last couple I have seen sold for around $50, which to me is cheap as that card is tough, real tough. The whole Vic Nuts sportsmen set from 1949 is extremely hard to put together and it took me a couple of years to get the 7 boxers from the set. I have noticed that the only Aussie cards that get the prices they deserve are the "Aussie" N174's, or a 1922 Newcastle Darcy - that is unless me and Gary are after the same card and one of us pays $70 for a $10 card happy.gif

 
 

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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 16 2009, 1:45 PM 

David,

Yes, the Victoria Nuts cards seem pretty tough. I sold the Joe Louis I had at the HOF show in New York for around $200 but it was in very nice condition.

Do you have a scan of an "Aussie" N174 you can show? Not sure I've even seen one before.


 
 


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I have an image that I will post to my site

February 17 2009, 11:38 AM 

It is a crappy one but...

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Re: I have an image that I will post to my site

February 17 2009, 3:28 PM 

I hope to find a N174 Fitz as well. I expect it to be a long wait, and know of only the one example.

 
 


(Login boxingcardman)

Unfortunately, in this thing of ours

February 17 2009, 3:46 PM 

there are quite a few 1 of 1 type cards. In some ways it makes boxing collecting fun since no one can really ever claim to own it all, but if you're trying to complete a set it can be a real drag.

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Brent Butcher
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Here are a few...

February 17 2009, 5:22 PM 

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All the best
Brent

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 18 2009, 5:06 AM 

Nice cards Brent. Damn I love that Slavin !

 
 


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Who is Martin Costello

February 18 2009, 9:03 AM 

Lou's older brother?

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Brent Butcher
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Martin "The Buffalo" Costello

February 18 2009, 12:57 PM 

He was a well known Australian boxer. Fought Peter Jackson, Dooley and Slavin quite a few times in Australia.

He should have been in that N174 master list I sent you over a year ago...

Notice the difference in name locations on Slavin? Its the only N174 I know of where the name can be found in different locations within the same series.

 
 
Anonymous
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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 18 2009, 7:55 PM 

I think Martin Costello was born in America (not sure if he had Aussie citizenship, like say Peter Jackson). He would have to be with a nickname liek "the Buffalo".

He did fight here for a while though before going back to the states to finish his career.

 
 

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Re: Australian Ogdens Peter Jackson Card

February 19 2009, 10:42 AM 

Great cards Brent.

So is it the font style at the bottom that seperates the "exports" from the U.S. version N174's?



 
 
E, Daniel
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Maybe one other.....

April 2 2009, 1:00 PM 

"I have noticed that the only Aussie cards that get the prices they deserve are the "Aussie" N174's, or a 1922 Newcastle Darcy "

For me the most important aussie issue boxing card, super hard to find and not all that cheap when you get a chance to bid on one.


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