Sarah Palin is the most refreshing breath of fresh air in politics, on either side of the aisle, to come down the pike in a long, long time. As far as anyone can determine, she has rock-solid integrity, and sense of fair play and bipartisan instincts that prove, day in and day out, that it *IS* possible to work together for common goals. How it happened in a state rife with endemic political corruption (about 90% GOP and 10% Dem), and *AS* a Republican, is astounding.
She literally threw off the reins of the GOP political machine and went her own way. She appointed both dems and repubs to cabinet posts.. and has introduced a level of tranparency to our state government we haven't seen in 30 years. Sarah enjoys about a 90% approval rating... which because of the demographics, means about 92% approval from the republicans and about 80% approval from dems... and about 90% approval from independents.
And now, she has taken the bold step of cutting back on "earmark" requests to Congress... Amazing. She's cutting through the shit, and making it all work.
Palin for President in 2016? It is not out of the realm of the possible. She has fundamental political instincts that are nothing short of amazing. The only sour note that I've noticed in her first year in office is her "social conservative" remarks regarding the Alaska Supreme Court's decision on parental notification re: teen pregnancy. However, there has been nothing more that has been said about that since the decision was handed down, so it is possible she was just shoring up her "base" ..(not that she really needs to).
Dammit... she's a female "Chuck Hagel" .. I hope she continues to do as well as her first year indicates.
Earmarks Palin's plan to cut back is right way for Alaska to go
Gov. Sarah Palin says her decision to quit asking for so many federal earmarks is a sound step toward more responsible and accountable government.
Defenders of earmarking say that for the state to give up on earmark requests is like unilaterally surrendering on the field of battle. As long as earmarking is the way the game is played, the argument goes, Alaska should play it.
Well, the game is changing with earmarks, at least somewhat. Alaska's bridges-to-nowhere controversy helped fuel a national backlash. Sen. Ted Stevens' spokesman, Aaron Saunders, concedes that times have changed. All earmarks, not just Alaska's, will face tougher prospects these days. (Though Saunders couldn't help crediting his boss with Senate passage of a defense funding bill with $183 million earmarked for Alaska projects.)
So Alaska can expect less discretionary money from Congress. We can also expect more scrutiny of each earmarking request.
In this new climate, the Palin administration's standards for seeking federal earmarks are appropriate and realistic. The projects should be of national significance, her budget chief says, and agencies should aggressively investigate alternatives to a congressional handout.
With stricter review on the front end, Alaska projects that make the official state list should be easier to defend in the congressional process.
Alaska has long defended our disproportionate federal funding by saying we're a young state whose development is way behind the rest of the country.
When Alaska petitioned for statehood, one huge question was whether the new state could support itself, instead of continuing to depend on the federal government. Thanks to oil and Ted Stevens, Alaska now does both.
We have $40 billion in the bank, no state income tax and no state sales tax. Residents get an annual check from the state's oil savings account. And yet we consistently rank among the top two or three states that collect the most federal funding per resident.
In this anti-earmarking climate, that kind of welfare for a rich state is not politically sustainable. The Palin administration recognizes that and is taking prudent steps to prepare for a little less generosity from Uncle Sam.
BOTTOM LINE: Alaska has to recognize the new reality that earmarks won't be easy to come by.
Oh, and there is this too... Can I find ANYTHING wrong with Governor Palin's priorities? Nope. Nada.
Jim..
[oh, and as a "guy" ... I cannot deny that Governor Palin is a fox... .. however, at the end of the day, even if she weren't... I'd be glad to support her]
JOHN HAVELOCK COMMENT (Published: December 15, 2007)
Was this an amazing year for Alaska or what? But before exiting, a big smooch under the Christmas mistletoe to Gov. Sarah Palin and the legislators who collaborated to finally pull in a fair share of Alaska's oil revenue. Santa should also leave a lump of coal and an employment application in the stocking of each of those legislators who opposed her.
The magnitude of this event does not appear to have dawned on most Alaskans. Remember the $900 million day back in the '70s? This is like that, but every year! As we have said regularly since, "please God, give it to us again and this time we won't ummm, 'throw' it away."
In fact, we didn't really then (well, maybe just a little). Still, the continuing bounty does mean that we should look beyond the next legislative session to a long-term plan.
Some of the things mentioned in the governor's proposals are legitimate priorities, particularly a substantial set aside in Alaska's savings accounts. Beyond that, her message made clear that after stabilizing the state's retirement funds, her priority is education. Few would disagree with that beginning.
Scheduled investments to make the University of Alaska a truly great university will pay off in the long run, far more than investments in crony capitalism, in building alternative Alaska economies, and human capital. A great university is an economic engine.
In the New Year, this column will address the merits of investment, among other places, in an international law school at UAA to put Alaskans in the forefront with the thinkers and practitioners who will address the global legal ordering of energy, raw materials, climate, transportation and trade in the next half-century.
Emphasis on the economic utility of a university should not overshadow the importance of education at the beginning and middle of life in cutting social costs. Field practitioners know that most of the problems we pay so much for in criminal justice and social services can be traced to distortions in the family life of infants and children. Nor should we forget those who appear to hang out after high school waiting for jail. The social and economic waste here is shameful.
Our philosophy should be no handouts, but let the "Owner State" build an opportunity society open to all.
Lumps of coal go also in the stocking of Conoco Phillips which, with over-the-top self-assurance, put out a press release from Houston in the morning co-opting the governor's evening AGIA bid openings. It announces to the nation that Conoco will build the gas line, as if the governor didn't exist. Then it publishes a condescending letter to Gov. Palin in full page ads regarding a "shared objective" of seeing a "conclusion of a successful open season within 36 months." So Conoco thinks it can push our Sarah around? Don't bet on it.
MidAmerica, one of two credible potential responders to Gov. Palin's AGIA invitation to build the line, declined to bid because of ongoing investigations which "draw into question virtually every major project participant and government levels from State to Federal." Note that reference to "every major project participant," and to the "federal level."
TransCanada is a credible pipeline builder, and, sitting on its Canadian right of way rights, knows it is in on the action; but old-hand TransCanada will likely prefer to deal than fight. Sometime, surely, a Conoco/Trans Canada accommodation is in the works. Other major leaseholders will eventually come in -- do they really have an option under their lease agreements not to produce if a pipeline is there offering an economic return?
The corruption stuff will come roaring back to the front page in the early part of next year. Will any of the indicted still run for re-election? Will Diane Benson be pushed aside by a Democratic party insider? Will Dave Cuddy or Andrew Halcro re-emerge as alternatives on the Republican side? Who else?
So stick around for 2008, another year mixing serious business with crazy public entertainment. I'll have what they serve those Wasilla women, please.
John Havelock is a former Alaska attorney general.
This message has been edited by Avalon9 on Dec 15, 2007 7:45 PM
I might have to vote for a real Republican for governor in my state next time. Don't know for sure yet if he is running or who his Democratic opponent will be.
A nation of sheep will beget
a government of wolves.
The preservation of liberty requires that
the three great departments of power
should be separate and distinct.
– James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 47.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power,
the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
and, yes...before anyone jumps on it, this is a post from 2007. My how things have 'changed'.
I've been on a journey this morning just going back through posts about Sarah Palin. Of course, there aren't that many prior to her becoming McCain's VP selection and there are thousands of posts after her VP selection. But, I think this particular thread is an indicator of what happens when a seemingly good government employee goes for a larger, and more national, brass ring.
Apparently, Palin was doing a good job. But, once she became a major target, and the opposition, the good things she had and was accomplishing then take a back seat and her skeletal closet gets picked clean, almost to total destruction, as the media and bloggers wipe the drool from their chins while high-fiving themselves for a job 'well done' in their own eyes.
The bottom line for me is that Palin did good things for Alaska. And, she could do great things for America, maybe will. I hope we see more of her.
Well, I'm not exactly sure what this flip-flop is supposed to represent, other than a flip-flop. I understand it when an elected official is indicted, swept up in a scandal, or even changes parties, all of which I would consider somewhat bellweather events. But in the matter of routine "governance", for lack of a better word, I would find any kind of Jekyll/Hyde performance that would result in this kind of Jekyll/Hyde reaction to be altogether unusual, and somewhat bizzare for both politican, and supporter.
Apparently, Palin was doing a good job. But, once she became a major target, and the opposition, the good things she had and was accomplishing then take a back seat and her skeletal closet gets picked clean, almost to total destruction, as the media and bloggers wipe the drool from their chins while high-fiving themselves for a job 'well done' in their own eyes.
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It is true. She started out with everything in her favor. Only a fool could've screwed it up the way she has. And for the record (and for the umpteenth time) it has NOT been the dems in this state who have taken her to task, it has been the Republicans.
She has proven herself to have feet made of sand; and she has done it to herself. She is not the "victim" of anything but herself.
Exactly Jim. she made her bed now she must sleep in it.
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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
I guess I find it odd that it's okay to change your mind about whether or not you support a republican, but try that with a democrat, and boy the claws come out.
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
I guess I find it odd that it's okay to change your mind about whether or not you support a republican, but try that with a democrat, and boy the claws come out.
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Perhaps you could try to provide an example? It must get painful riding that picket fence so hard.
Jim, everything isn't about you. But have you not noticed the drubbing those of us who refused to continue to support Obama have taken? It's been rather prominent on this board.
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
Jim, everything isn't about you. But have you not noticed the drubbing those of us who refused to continue to support Obama have taken? It's been rather prominent on this board.
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I didn't think it was about me. But, I am not "drubbing" you because you refuse to support Obama... in fact, I didn't even know you weren't. You are just not making any sense. You have just not articulated anything to be against that makes any sense to me.
Didn't you get the memo? Jim is ALWAYS right. No matter what he says. No matter how he changes it, he is still ALWAYS right and the rest of us are just unintelligent dweebs for him to twirl.
Well, Jen, you make two now. All I can say is: "Watch your back".
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
"I didn't see Jen saying she doesn't support Obama any more ..."
She doesn't have to say it in those words, all she has to do is suggest that she's less than happy with the Obama Administration. But now that I've made that statements, I'm sure there will be many chiming in to say she has a right to her opinion, etc. That right seems to apply to some; does not apply to others.
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
There's been a few things unraveling that have made me less than happy..... as far as supporting Obama, I'm going to do what I did with Bush - give him a year.
It is true. She started out with everything in her favor. Only a fool could've screwed it up the way she has. And for the record (and for the umpteenth time) it has NOT been the dems in this state who have taken her to task, it has been the Republicans.
She has proven herself to have feet made of sand; and she has done it to herself. She is not the "victim" of anything but herself.
Jim..
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Thank you for your response, Jim.
I did NOT dig this up as a "troll to start shit", as was stated. I was just going back through posts here to see what was said about Palin before and after. Yours just happened to be one of very few 'before' posts that were found, so I brought it forward, hoping to generate some discussion.
My thoughts on this are that what happened to Palin could happen, and has happened, to others. Particularly those who step into national politics from, in Palin's case, relative obscurity. Remember that silly incident that had a lot to do with taking down Howard Dean? But, since then, the "boots on the ground" have increased in number, as have the blogs and their participants, in addition to the 'instant' news alerts that capture a pretty solid tabloid audience. JMO.
And, while I think Palin did have some impact which contributed to her spiraling, she did, at one time, apparently have what it takes to make a difference, as you've provided in the OP. She kicked some butt, made enemies, but, in the end, did some good. That's what is expected at the state level by it's citizens. And, I don't think your state is in any worse shape because of her governorship, it's probably better.
Although I didn't think Palin was ready to step in as POTUS, a real possibility, I did think she could have done some good things as VP. Look at how Biden has been dumped on, er, delegated to. McCain probably would have done similarly, but not to the same degree, imo. Palin could have and would have, imo, willingly taken on any assignment she was given. And, I think she would have performed it extremely well, with bumps along the road expected, of course.
One major point I'm trying to make is that she is not the first nor will she be the last to be taken down so publically. And, as time marches on, it's only going to get worse, depending on the candidate and how the media/blogs *see* the candidate. It's no wonder regular Joes and Janes stay away from politics, even though some would be great assets to the people and country. At least Palin took the chance. For that, I applaud her and wish her well in future endeavors.
IMO, we do not have the luxury of giving any president a year for us to 'wait and see' anymore. Things are happening already, and have been since the first week, that should provide you with obvious indacators as to where these policies are, and will, take this country. For those who paid attention, it was obvious during the campaign.
Tell me, those of you who currently work or have worked in the real corporate world, at higher than entry levels or lower level positions...
When you are assigned a new boss, do you honestly give that person a full year, or three years, before you size him/her up?
When you are assigned a new employee, do you honestly give that person a full year, or three years, before you size him/her up?
And, please don't bring up the annual evaluation process. If you're honest with yourself, you probably have sized up the boss or employee within less than a month. So, start sizing things up now, as some of you are late to the party.
I was somewhat confused by your bumping this post up to the top again because I did not notice the date and did not realize it was something from such a long time ago. Once I realized that, it seemed to be clear -- at least me -- that you were trying to show how things change. I never looked at it as a hoax, since apparently the original post consists of factual statements made by others some time ago, but I viewed it merely as a way to point out the rapidly changing climate of politics.
"People come and go so quickly here!"
Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
Barb, yes, to a degree it was to show how things change, but to also generate some conversation on why things changed. Jim seemed perfectly happy with Palin early on, and rightly so, imo. IIRC, his post was from late 2007 after Palin had a year under her belt. And, there were other positive posts made later, one in early 2008. It just seems to me, as a non-Alaska resident, that Palin was doing good things pretty much up until she threw her hat into the national ring. Then, once the media and bloggers dug in, it was downhill from there. And, as I said, this is what most any future candidate can expect to happen, except, of course, unless the media and bloggers are are on 'your' side. Think of what would happen had some of them really dug in on Obama. Hillary? Meh...they already had their files on her. Obama is, imo, STILL being vetted (oh, so gently still) post election and in real time.
Cruel hoax? No. Just consider the source who said it.
I sure didn't see Inka's bringing forward Jim's old thread as a cruel hoax. I knew right away it was an old post and looked immediately for the date to see just how long ago it was made. We all know he at one time sang Sarah's praises.
And yes, times have changed. Sarah didn't start her political career with any promise of greatness. She was the first to admit she was just a regular taxpayer, like you and I, but she decided to get involved to inject a little bit of "commoner" sense. Politics is an ugly game, and it's getting uglier all the time, especially with the growth of the irresponsible blogosphere. One of Sarah's concerns and reasons for getting into politics was her desire to cut government costs. She has faced 16 ethics inquiries of one sort or another in Alaska since last year with all but one of them being resolved. These ethics inquiries and the records requests have cost Alaskan taxpayers $2 million. She stated that she and Todd have personal legal bills of half-million dollars. They have 5 children and a grandchild. I don't blame her one bit for jumping out of the madness. I don't know if she has a future in national politics. Perhaps she doesn't even want it. But I've no doubt that her desire to fight against government waste and her love for her country are as strong as ever.
Upon being selected by McCain, Palin's impact stunned the Left. She made the Clintonistas crazy as an electoral("history") threat, she made the Feminists crazy as a living repudiation of their bullshit, and made the Greenies crazy as a hunter/gun owner, to name a few. This all combined with her other attributes to creat an amalgam of characterization that literally made the Left wake up screaming in a cold sweat. Since the Left lives by characterizations, rather than actual issues, Palin's personal, and political positives, however perceived, were completely irrelevant.(can you say "Feminist"?)
Consequently, the worst of the worst that the Left had(has) to offer took total command. The Long Knives of the Left wrote the book, and nobody does it better. For example, compared to Joe Biden, or even George Bush, Palin is a picture of prepared eloquence. Yet in a completely set up ambush by Katie Couric(herself an example of what, BTW), Palin stumbled, and the pack pounced, and took it from there. Flying pregnant(gasp!), winking(horrors!), and saying "you betcha" too many times were *all* of the most primary importance!
Was she "qualified"? Har! Who the sam-bloody-hell did we elect??? A bush league Chicago ward-heeler with a few months in the Senate? Check your history, and see how many Presidents were governors, vesus how many were senators. But the piss-on-your-shoes-and-tell-you-it's-raining agents of the Left have no compunctions at all about creating self-contradictory "issues" out of thin air. It simply works too well.
Speculation is primarily mental masturbation as an excuse to get some face time. I simply don't care. Nothing Palin does will have any impact on my life at all, unless she again makes herself available for my vote. But until then, the fact that segements of the Left will pull on their little puds until they fall off over every move she makes, will provide more of the never-ending entertainment that they so graciously provide.
"A bush league Chicago ward-heeler with a few months in the Senate? "
Well, after all, they WERE looking for change!
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
This is America folks! Anycitizen can be POTUS provided they meet the very few requirements this country has set forth. That fact was at one time.... a thing that Americans were proud of and the rest of the civilized world was in awe of. But then... a black man won the election. Now all of a sudden the thought of this country allowing voters to elect ANY CITIZEN is seen by some, but certainly not all.... as something America should be ashamed of. To those people I say pissoff!
For Obama it all started in the mostly white populated state of Iowa. It continued with him following rules set forth by his party thus endearing himself to the party rule makers and by his ability to run one of the best campaigns ever in the USA. That fact was agreed upon by many members of the Republican party as well as many non-Republicans. Obama was attacked over and over again by his opponents via bloggers and ugly, viral emails. Politics is not for the thin skinned, it is a dirty game where billions of dollars are spent by special interest groups in the hopes that they will find someone sympathetic to their cause. Apparently, in the words of Huckabee... he (Obama) can stand the sight of his own blood.
This is America folks! Anycitizen can be POTUS provided they meet the very few requirements this country has set forth. That fact was at one time.... a thing that Americans were proud of and the rest of the civilized world was in awe of. But then... a black man won the election. Now all of a sudden the thought of this country allowing voters to elect ANY CITIZEN is seen by some, but certainly not all.... as something America should be ashamed of. To those people I say pissoff!
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
This is America folks! Anycitizen can be POTUS provided they meet the very few requirements this country has set forth. That fact was at one time.... a thing that Americans were proud of and the rest of the civilized world was in awe of. But then... a black man won the election. Now all of a sudden the thought of this country allowing voters to elect ANY CITIZEN is seen by some, but certainly not all.... as something America should be ashamed of. To those people I say pissoff!
But then... a black man won the election. Now all of a sudden the thought of this country allowing voters to elect ANY CITIZEN is seen by some, but certainly not all.... as something America should be ashamed of. To those people I say pissoff!
Oh stick a sock in it... The history you love to hate did not begin with George Bush, and the history you love to love, did not begin with Barack Obama. Gheezuz... The lens of the moonbat perspective contains a kaleidoscope.
Oh stick a sock in it... The history you love to hate did not begin with George Bush, and the history you love to love, did not begin with Barack Obama. Gheezuz... The lens of the moonbat perspective contains a kaleidoscope.
Oh stick a sock in it... The history you love to hate did not begin with George Bush, and the history you love to love, did not begin with Barack Obama. Gheezuz... The lens of the moonbat perspective contains a kaleidoscope.
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Who, exactly, are you telling to shut up?
Can you not even read what you copied and pasted? Why are you asking really dumb questions?
"And when given the option of having 4 more years like the last 8 years they voted to go with someone willing to try a different approach."
Well, they certainly got what they asked for, didn't they?
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
Now that Palin appears to be out of the way, at least temporarily, and probably not a threat for 2012, I wonder who the next target will be? I know it's early, but it's just easier, and better, to eliminate any opposition as soon as you can, especially by targetting a specific person, not associated institutions.
Alinsky Rule #12:
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
"...But then... a black man won the election. Now all of a sudden the thought of this country allowing voters to elect ANY CITIZEN is seen by some, but certainly not all.... as something America should be ashamed of. To those people I say pissoff...!"
Who are these "some" people? I've never met one. Perhaps you have? Names? Dates? Quoted statements?
Lunatics on either saide can be eliminatd from your sample.
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We'll be friends until we're old and senile. Then we'll be new friends.
-Anon.
I guess the lesson is: Not in a million years will I support anybody from the GOP again.
I did it once, and now I am paying the price.
'nuff said.
Jim..
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You have only supported someone from the GOP once?
And, how, specifically, are you paying the price for ever supporting Palin?
I fail to see how supporting one person from the GOP (Palin), which, in your current view was a mistake, should give you cause to never "in a million years" support any GOP candidate in the future, especially not knowing who those candidates might be and what their future platforms might be based on.
This message has been edited by inka_d on Jul 16, 2009 10:34 AM
Gee. Whatever happened to "Vote for the person you feel is best for the job, not the party"?
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
I'm glad you were able to vote your conscience, Maw, but why do you have such a problem with others who do the same thing? Is it because they don't vote the way you did?
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
Gee. Whatever happened to "Vote for the person you feel is best for the job, not the party"?
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When the GOP can rid itself of the idiots, then I will go back to that philosophy. Until then? Not on a bet. A vote for somebody in the GOP, regardless of their qualifications, is just a vote to continue their mewling adherence to ignorance.
They won't get my vote until they return to the party of Sam Nunn and Everett Dirksen.
Move to one of the highest taxed areas of the country ... like NY, Oregon or California. Put up or shut up. You love liberal policies so much? Live them.
Move to one of the highest taxed areas of the country ... like NY, Oregon or California. Put up or shut up. You love liberal policies so much? Live them.
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What? And, forfeit the annual oil dividends paid to each resident of Alaska? Not to mention the 'special' payout authorized by Governor Palin to help ease the pain at the pump last year. Why give up *free* money, only to move where that, and then some, would be taxed into nothingness?
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
"When the GOP can rid itself of the idiots, then I will go back to that philosophy."
Okay, that's cool. It's just that it's not what I gathered from your original post.
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
I'm quite upset over some things he's doing as well. But of course I never expected him to be perfect.
It's ONLY the neoCONs who are into calling President Obama the "messiah". The rest of us KNOW that he's a human being with flaws and all.
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I've seen Jan speak to some things he doesn't like that Obama has done. You? No, like the majority of liberals here. Would you please tell us what things you're upset about, and why? TIA
I remember distinctly that she-who-is-longer-among-us-on-the-boards stated that she had researched Obama thoroughly and found him to be "perfect".
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
remember distinctly that she-who-is-longer-among-us-on-the-boards stated that she had researched Obama thoroughly and found him to be "perfect".
Do we get 3 guesses to whom you are speaking?
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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
I remember distinctly that she-who-is-longer-among-us-on-the-boards stated that she had researched Obama thoroughly and found him to be "perfect".
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I don't give a shit what ninja said, nobody is perfect, nor have I ever suggested that Barack Obama is without flaw (nor are his policies, which is more to the point).
You seem to have taken on your adopted family's propensity to accuse everyone with whom you disagree, with the most extreme views out there.
Thank you Jim. Ninja is no longer here to defend herself.
And maybe in her eyes she did think he is perfect.
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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
Jim. I hope I didn't give you the impression that I thought you were attacking Ninja. I never thought that of you.
I wonder what happened to her. We used to be very close, in here and on other boards and emails. Then all of a sudden nothing. I don't want to think the worse, but I do think of her often. Ever so often I send an email out to her, but never a reply.
I wish I had gotten her address years ago.
I just hope she's alive and happy.
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I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and
all the less important ones just never go away.
And the real pains in the ass are permanent.
I merely quoted what Ninja said some months ago. If she truly believes that, why would she have to defend it?
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
I merely quoted what Ninja said some months ago. If she truly believes that, why would she have to defend it?
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How did you get that from what I wrote?
Otoh, if a poster makes assertions on a debate board, I doubt that anyone would take it at face value. After all, that isn't even close to the purpose of bulletin board forums.
For the record though, I don't believe anyone is perfect, nor even close to it.
Actually, Jim, it was a response to Janie's post wherein she stated they never expected Obama to be perfect. It is apparent that someone did.
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
As I mentioned once before, Jim, everything isn't about you. Why you interpret it that way is just due to a severe case narcissism on your part. Kiss my grits.
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What is the essence of America? Finding and maintaining that perfect, delicate balance between freedom "to" and freedom "from." ~Marilyn vos Savant, in Parade
Current Topic - Why I Like (GOP) Governor Sarah Palin
.. however, at the end of the day, even if she weren't... I'd be glad to support her]
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