May 07, 2009
Categories: Republicans
Red states seek 'sovereignty'

Hendrik Hertzberg flags a Georgia state Senate resolution, which I also missed, that appears aimed at opening the door for secession.

In the case of "[f]urther infringements on the right to keep and bear arms," says the resolution, "[A]ll powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. Any future government of the United States of America shall require ratification of three quarters of the States seeking to form a government of the United States of America and shall not be binding upon any State not seeking to form such a government."

This seems to be a bit of a trend: Oklahoma's Legislature this week overrode Gov. Brad Henry's veto to pass a "sovereignty" resolution, and similar moves are afoot in Georgia and South Carolina.

The Tenth Amendment Center (tagline: "the powers not delegated ..."), which supports and tracks these move, lists bills introduced in 35 states, most a bit less blunt about dissolving the union than Georgia's. They've passed at least one body of the legislature, according to that list, in 10 states: North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Georgia, Indiana, Idaho, Tennessee, Missouri, Montana (where it eventually failed) and Alaska, where Gov. Sarah Palin will decide whether to sign.

The Alaska resolution, which is fairly standard, "serves as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that all compulsory federal legislation that directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed."


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0509/Red_states_seek_sovreignty.html

It is the supreme court that decides such matters. If not the court then force of arms. The south shall fall again. If I get a say in it, I say slaughter the traitors this time.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson

We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. - Carl Sagan

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Well, gillis, do you support or oppose these resolutions to secede?

I oppose them, on the basis that Abraham Lincoln established 150 years ago. 

If you think that this government has become so oppressive that there is nothing less than armed resistance left to you.  I suggest you go for it.

Are you still fighting that old battle?

Jim..

Here's all Y'all need to know about all this here secession talk.

South Postpones Rising Again For Yet Another Year

HUNTSVILLE, ALFor the 135th straight year since Gen. Robert E. Lee's surrender at Appomattox, representatives for the South announced Monday that the region has postponed plans to rise again.

"Make no mistake, the South shall rise again," said Knox Pritchard, president of the Huntsville-based Alliance Of Confederate States. "But we're just not quite ready to do it now. Hopefully, we'll be able to rise again real soon, maybe even in 2001."  (note to those who refuse to give up hope, Date has been moved to almost possibly in 2010 or 2011.)

Pritchard's fellow Southerners shared his confidence.

"Yes, sir. The South will rise again, and when it does, I'll be right up front waving the Stars and Bars," said Dock Mullins of Decatur, GA. "But first, I gotta get my truck fixed and get that rusty old stove out of my yard."

"Lord willing, and the creek don't rise, we gonna rise again," said Sumter, SC, radiator technician Hap Slidell, who describes himself as "Southern by the grace of God." "I don't know exactly when we're gonna do it, but one of these days, we're gonna show them Yankees how it's done."

"Save your Confederate dollars," Slidell added. "You can bet on that."

The Deep South states of Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana, and Tennessee consistently rank at the bottom of the nation in a wide variety of statistical categories, including literacy, infant mortality, hospital beds, toilet-paper sales, and shoe usage. Even so, some experts believe the region could be poised for a renaissance.

"The way things stand, things in the Deep South almost have to get better. Otherwise, the people who live there will devolve into preverbal, overall-wearing sub-morons within a century," said Professor Dennis Lassiter of Princeton University. "Either Southerners will start improving themselves, or they'll be sold to middle-class Asians as pets."

"My constituents are decent, hard-working folk," said Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC), despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, in his 22nd annual "Next Year, By God!" speech on the steps of North Carolina's capitol building. "We are a proud people who mayn't have all that much fancy-pants book-learnin', but we live and die with pride in our proud heritage and the dignity of our forebears."

Helms' speech was met with nearly 25 minutes of enthusiastic hoots and rebel yells by the 15,000 drunk, unemployed tobacco pickers in attendance.

Though Southerners are overwhelmingly in favor of rising again, few were able to provide specific details of the rising-again process.

"I don't know, I reckon we'll build us a bunch of big, fancy buildins and pave us up a whole mess of roads," said Bobby Lee Fuller of Greenville, MS. "I ain't exactly sure where we're gonna get the money for that, but when Johnny Reb sets his mind to something, you best get out of his way."

"Oh, it'll happen, sure as the sun come up in the morning," said Buford Comstock, 26, a student at Over 'N' Back Diesel Driving School in Union City, TN. "The South is gonna rise up, just as soon as we get together and get all our shit back in one sock. Then, look out, Northerners!"

"Yesiree," Comstock added, "one day soon, the Mason-Dixon Line will be the boundary between a great nation and one whose time done passed."

Y'all can check the source right-chir; http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28559

The south shall fall again. If I get a say in it, I say slaughter the traitors this time.



so the states are slaves to the federal?


there should be no states rights at all?


union in America is not voluntary.....or free?

so people who want to self govern are traitors?

asked and answered a century ago. you personally, gillis are free to renounce citizenship anytime you please.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson

We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. - Carl Sagan

I believe that every right implies a responsibility, every opportunity an obligation; every possession, a duty. - John D. Rockefeller, Jr.