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For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009 at 7:40 AM
skiptig4....Dan  (Login skiptig4)

You might have heard this before from Obama...maybe phrased a little differently but saying the same thing....and much sounding exactly the same! But why bother with those little things..."He's so popular!"...and "He's not George Bush!"



from the SPUSA Statement of Principles....
THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control - a non-racist, classless, feminist socialist society... where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically-controlled public agencies; where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. We believe socialism and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future - to a real radical democracy from below. The Socialist Party fights for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. We support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the capitalist controlled two-party system, to present socialist alternatives. We strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. The Socialist Party is a democratic, multi-tendency organization, with structure and practices visible and accessible to all members Join us today

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The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan

 
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skiptig4....Dan
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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 7:46 AM 

"THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control "


Of course we all know that the first sentence is a lie...it's not under "their own control" as the Socialist and Obama would have you believe...it's under "government control"...Obama is even more honest about that than his cousins, but there again, they are socialist that call themselves socialist...he's one and doesn't call himself one!

The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan

 
 


(Login indisgeyes)

Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 10:04 AM 

Once again skippy shows both his hatred and his ignorance... you are a great spokesman for the rightwing racists and fascists.

 
 
skiptig4....Dan
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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 10:34 AM 

"Once again skippy shows both his hatred and his ignorance... you are a great spokesman for the rightwing racists and fascists."

Make your point if you have one!

I'll help you along since you obviously need it!...nothing I've said has anything to do with hate...and "ignorance" is just wishful thinking on your part, thus putting me on somewhat of a more "equal ground" with you! I'll agree I'm "rightwing"....but nowhere near being a "racist" nor "fascist"...knowing you just added those two as more of an insulting bash since you lack the ability to make a justified argument to the fact that my post from the Socialist does indeed sound as if Obama could have said it himself...because he has said much of the exact same things himself...as I noted!

So what's your problem? You can't stand that I noted it or that you're sick to your stomach that I'm right about your savior Obama...as you should have the intellect to already know and understand...which is it?



The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan

 
 


(Login indisgeyes)

Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 10:43 AM 

I made my point, succinctly, if you don't like it.. too F'ng bad.

 
 


(Login jrooth)

Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 1:03 PM 

Nope. I haven't heard that from Obama.


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(Login roby2000)

Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 4:04 PM 

Skippy is getting real desperate.

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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 4:04 PM 

Skippy is getting real desperate.

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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 5:18 PM 

Ron believes that hate is exhibited by anyone who disagrees with him. I proved that before, didn't I Ron? You keep telloing everyone what they believe. It's your own mind that is cluttered with confusion.

Ron stated facts. You did not refute them. Therefore, you show that you believe reason is hate.To

 
 

(Login Poetse12)

Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 5:30 PM 

Well, Jan, you must have been born yesterday. No one pays attention to what politicians say--You had better watch what they do.
Take a close look at the banks and GM in particular. Didn't think you would see anything.

 
 

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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 5:32 PM 

And, roby, your powers of observation are not really accurate. You keep missing the point retrospectively.

 
 

j2
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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 7:52 PM 

skippy, potese you guys on acid? Obama is a moderate democrat also known as an intelligent, classic liberal. Plenty of people to his left, including the socialists are disappointed in him. You two are just pathetic brain dead losers and skippy in paticular is a traitor to the United States of America with his call for armed revolution. Potese is just well on the road to hell.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 8:05 PM 

Ron believes that hate is exhibited by anyone who disagrees with him. I proved that before, didn't I Ron?

No, poetse, I don't and you didn't.  I can't remember anytime you've proven anything except to yourself, but as I've always said, I'll let the other readers decide.


 
 

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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 10 2009, 8:35 PM 

Ron Writes:
Once again skippy shows both his hatred and his ignorance... you are a great spokesman for the rightwing racists and fascists.



Ron, you are like every liberal on this board. You would never accept the evidence given because you refuse to see the truth. Otherwise you would not call Limbaiugh a hate monger and never listen to him.

You jumped into the mioddle of a thread and accused me of saying that a poll was accurate when I never said that I believed it. You accuyse me of hate and never present one bit of evidence. I pointed out the truth to you but you refuser to see it.

And now you and J2 believe that Obama is the classic liberal when the Union and the government own 90 percent of the GM stocvk. they screwed the bond holders by making them take a huge loss. That is the work of a Socialist. He doesn't have to say one word to admit he i9s a Socialist. It's just obvious from what he does.

And you don't prove any points by saying Skippy is spreading his hate. You offeered no proof and did not say one word abp0ut his post. It is pure reason that you rejuct. That prove your hatred. Otherwise you would debate the i9ssue4s rather than accuse people who disagree with you. Read your posts.


    
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skiptig4....Dan
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Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 11 2009, 7:33 PM 

" Obama is a moderate democrat also known as an intelligent, classic liberal."


Are you on drugs? Did you miss the fact that he WAS the most liberal senator in the senate...when he wasn't voting present that is! There';s nothing moderate about him no matter how damn bad you want it to be...he's to the left of Castro! Like I said..Wake-up! But it appears you and your pal are in deep comas of denial or just plain ignorance and stupidity!

The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism.....Aneurin Bevan

 
 


(Login j2saret)

Re: For Those Still On The Fence...

May 11 2009, 7:55 PM 

No he wasn't the most liberal senator in the senate. that was just one of the long long string of lies that you idiots lapped up from hate media. you people are not very smart and probably should have someone hold your hand when you cross the street.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." -- Thomas Jefferson

We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. - Carl Sagan

I believe that every right implies a responsibility, every opportunity an obligation; every possession, a duty. - John D. Rockefeller, Jr.

 
 
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