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July 2 2009 at 12:26 AM

gus.  (Login gus-mccrea)

BP shuts alternative energy HQ

'Beyond Petroleum' boast in doubt as clean energy boss quits
Renewables budget will be reduced by up to £550m this year

 

A sign at a BP petrol station is reflected in raindrops in London.

A sign at a BP petrol station is reflected in raindrops in London. Photograph: Luke MacGregor/Reuters

BP has shut down its alternative energy headquarters in London, accepted the resignation of its clean energy boss and imposed budget cuts in moves likely to be seen by environmental critics as further signs of the oil group moving "back to petroleum".

But Tony Hayward, the group's chief executive, said BP remained as committed as ever to exploring new energy sources and the non-oil division would benefit from the extra focus of being brought back in house.

BP Alternative Energy was given its own headquarters in County Hall opposite the Houses of Parliament two years ago and its managing director, Vivienne Cox, oversaw a small division of 80 staff concentrating on wind and solar power.

But the 49-year-old Cox BP's most senior female executive, who previously ran renewables as part of a larger gas and power division now dismantled by Hayward is standing down tomorrow.

This comes alongside huge cuts in the alternative energy budget from $1.4bn (£850m) last year to between $500m and $1bn this year, although spending is still roughly in line with original plans to invest $8bn by 2015.

The move back to BP's corporate headquarters at St James's Square in London's West End made sense, particularly when the group was sitting on spare office space due to earlier cutbacks, said Hayward.

"We are going through a major restructuring and bringing the alternative energy business headquarters into the head office seems a good idea to me.

"It saves money and brings it closer to home ... you could almost see it as a reinforcement [of our commitment to the business]," he said.

Cox was stepping down to spend more time with her children, Hayward added. "I know you would love to make a story out of all this," he said, "but it's quite hard work."

The reason for the departure of Cox is variously said by industry insiders to be caused by frustration over the business being downgraded in importance or because she really does intend to stay at home more with her young children. Cox had already reduced her working week down to three days and had publicly admitted the difficulty of combining different roles.

She will be replaced by another woman, her former deputy Katrina Landis, but the moves will worry those campaigning for more women in business, especially as Linda Cook, Shell's most senior female executive, has recently left her job too.

BP has gradually given up on plans to enter the UK wind industry and concentrated all its turbine activities on the US, where it can win tax breaks and get cheaper and easier access to land.

In April the company closed a range of solar power manufacturing plants in Spain and the US with the loss of 620 jobs and Hayward has publicly questioned whether solar would ever become competitive with fossil fuels, something that goes against the current thinking inside the renewables sector.

Hayward has also moved BP into more controversial oil areas, such as Canada's tar sands, creating an impression that he has given up on the objectives of his predecessor, Lord Browne, to take the company "Beyond Petroleum".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jun/28/bp-alternative-energy

 

 


 
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(Login Avalon99)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 12:33 AM 

so? 

My family just signed a contract with the corporation with the link below for a multiyear agreement.  About $15K/year per turbine. (and we have the substation agreement for our land as well...  minimum of 13 turbines to be installed)

In spite of your assertions to the contrary, this shit is happening. 

Jim.

http://www.iberdrolarenewables.us/



    
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gus.
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Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 12:57 AM 

In spite of your assertions to the contrary, this shit is happening. 

   Well, the same thing can be said about a 100 car pileup on an LA freeway. *chortle*  The quiet money is whispering that T. Boone is not the least bit happy with his wind venture.  No doubt the land owners are happy for the time being.  Unintended consequences can take years to surface.  If or until then, it's free money.  But to the heretic, hundreds of acres of comparatively delicate machines and requisite infrastructure in place of a 5 acre turbine station with a century of proven reliability is just a 100 car pileup waiting to happen.  Provided the wind blows...

gus.

 

 


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 1:02 AM 

  Well, the same thing can be said about a 100 car pileup on an LA freeway. *chortle*  The quiet money is whispering that T. Boone is not the least bit happy with his wind venture.  No doubt the land owners are happy for the time being.  Unintended consequences can take years to surface.  If or until then, it's free money.  But to the heretic, hundreds of acres of comparatively delicate machines and requisite infrastructure in place of a 5 acre turbine station with a century of proven reliability is just a 100 car pileup waiting to happen.  Provided the wind blows...

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Well, I knew you would assert something like that.  In point of fact, there are already 128 turbines installed in our area in SC Washington, and the first substation, linking that power to the Bonneville Power Transmission grid has already been installed, on our land.  This latest is the 4th phase of a 6 phase system.  The power is being sold primarily to California. 

Each of the new turbines will generate 2mw of power..  Life moves on.  You, apparently, do not.

Jim...


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 1:05 AM 

Here's the pdf on the original project...   and yes, this is the country I grew up in.

Jim..

http://www.iberdrolarenewables.us/pdf/Big_Horn_Brochure.pdf


 
 

gus.
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Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 1:12 AM 

Well, I knew you would assert something like that.  In point of fact, there are already 128 turbines installed in our area in SC Washington, and the first substation, linking that power to the Bonneville Power Transmission grid has already been installed, on our land.  This latest is the 4th phase of a 6 phase system.  The power is being sold primarily to California. 

   *Many* hundreds of the things run for miles and miles west of Abilene, destroying what was once one of the most awe-inspiring vistas within an easy day's drive.  They have been there for a number of years now.  I don't go there anymore, so I know little else about them.

gus.

 


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 1:16 AM 

*Many* hundreds of the things run for miles and miles west of Abilene, destroying what was once one of the most awe-inspiring vistas within an easy day's drive.  They have been there for a number of years now.  I don't go there anymore, so I know little else about them.

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Ah, denial and avoidance, the last refuge of idiots.

Jim...


 
 

gus.
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Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 1:30 AM 

Ah, denial and avoidance, the last refuge of idiots.

   Fuckin' a, pal, same as I do with Liberals in real life...

gus.

 


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 1:33 AM 

Fuckin' a, pal, same as I do with Liberals in real life...

gus.

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Apparently you put "critical thought" and "liberals" in the same avoidance category. 

You never met one you liked.

Jim...


 
 

gus.
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Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 1:35 AM 

Apparently you put "critical thought" and "liberals" in the same avoidance category. 

   But of course!  Liberals don't have any!

gus.

 


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 2:01 AM 

But of course!  Liberals don't have any!

gus.

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I ain't the one doin' the "avoidin'" buckwheat.

Jim...


 
 


(Login roby2000)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 11:08 AM 

What I don't get is that most conservatives bemoan the fact that we are dependent of foreign oil from countries we despise and who despise us.  Yet, any attempt to create alternative energy or smaller cars  is met with brick wall resistance from those very conservatives.  What gives?

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gus.
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Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 12:14 PM 

What I don't get is that most conservatives bemoan the fact that we are dependent of foreign oil from countries we despise and who despise us.  Yet, any attempt to create alternative energy or smaller cars  is met with brick wall resistance from those very conservatives.  What gives?

   It's called a free market.  Alternative energy and smaller cars will succeed when a *demand* is large enough to be profitably met, *not* at the whim, and subsequent force of law, by a bunch of arrogant numbnuts who think they know better than the rest of us.  Not to mention the incredibly stupid idea of ignoring our own domestic oil supplies to keep some owls from getting pissed.

gus.

 


 
 

Moniker
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Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 2:32 PM 

"...minimum of 13 turbines to be installed)... In spite of your assertions to the contrary, this shit is happening..."

It will be interesting to read your observations as this project progresses. My contacts at Clipper Windpower report budget cuts in all departments, and long-terrm technical problems at their Cedar Rapids. One of the biggest challenges is the high-tolerance upkeep of the turbines, as well as management of the scope of development and installation Technology will improve, but it's interesting that BP, which holds a majority in Clipper Windpower, isn't achieving the expected revenues for their investment. These conditions seem to apply to the industry as a whole, not just BP/Clipper.

 



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AJC
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Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 2:47 PM 

Unfortunately the "free market" will not react quickly enough to avoid an expensive period for the consumer.

 
 
Jim
(Login Avalon99)

Re: Say It Ain't So BP!

July 2 2009, 2:48 PM 

It will be interesting to read your observations as this project progresses. My contacts at Clipper Windpower report budget cuts in all departments, and long-terrm technical problems at their Cedar Rapids. One of the biggest challenges is the high-tolerance upkeep of the turbines, as well as management of the scope of development and installation Technology will improve, but it's interesting that BP, which holds a majority in Clipper Windpower, isn't achieving the expected revenues for their investment. These conditions seem to apply to the industry as a whole, not just BP/Clipper.

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Well, the project in the surrounding area in SC WA has been going on for about 5 years now, with the first group of turbines being that old.  My brother runs the family ranch and he says that maintenance and downtime has not to this point been an issue.  And, with every phase of the project the technology improves in geometric leaps. 

As you say though, time will tell.

Jim...


 
 
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