Hey, if it can bring in this much for California, just imagine what the gubment could get if they went nationwide ... and took in places like Taos!
California tax officials say a state proposal to tax and regulate marijuana like alcohol would generate nearly $1.4 billion in revenue.
A State Board of Equalization report released Wednesday estimates marijuana retail sales would bring $990 million from a $50-per-ounce fee and $392 million in sales taxes.
The bill introduced by San Francisco Democratic Assemblyman Tom Ammiano in February would allow adults to legally possess, grow and sell marijuana.
So they would add a $50 per-ounce fee to a lid of weed plus California sales tax (8.25% in my area)?
So, let's see, a suffering cancer patient pays $350 per ounce now for medicinal marijuana. The State will add $50 bringing the price of an ounce to $400. Tack on at least 8.25% and you've got $33.
$433 minus $350 is $83.
So that cancer patient will pay 24% more for her pain/nutrition relief if this bill passes.
Not that such a thing would impact me in any way. Just commenting.
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So that cancer patient will pay 24% more for her pain/nutrition relief if this bill passes.
Why do you presume the base price would remain as high as it is if it's legalized? Wouldn't one see a lot more competition from people willing to get into the growing business if it is legal?
Why do you presume the base price would remain as high as it is if it's legalized? Wouldn't one see a lot more competition from people willing to get into the growing business if it is legal?
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I'm to the point that I truly believe that most conservatives believe that the conditions that exist today, at this very moment, are guaranteed to stay static forever, and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.
Currently in California, there is pretty much a market-driven retail business in medicinal pot.
There are over 500 "co-operatives" in Southern California who sell weed legally (State law, not Fed) to anyone who can pony up $150 for a license to buy 8 ounces at a time and cultivate 6 mature plants.
The "approved" symptoms to qualify for a license range from PMS, to cancer, to depression. The clamor for supply has kept the price pretty much up there at $20 a gram, $60 an eighth-ounce, or $350 to $400 an ounce.
Prescriptions like pot or prozac are not taxed in California.
This bill is a another money-grab by the Democratic powers in Sacramento who want to support their unbridled spending with more taxes. This time, they want to legalize a prescription medication in order to tax nonmedicinal users.
LOL!
Everyone will just go out and get a license from a doctor on Venice Beach, Southern California or Haight-Ashbury, San Francisco, and smoke their tax-free pot in comfort.
And, wild-cat, black-market, non-taxed growers in Humboldt County and otherr areas of California will make a killing!
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So you seriously believe that if large-scale agribusiness went into pot growing that wouldn't drive the price down? Seriously? The shit isn't any harder to grow than corn is, and corn sure as hell doesn't cost hundreds of dollars an ounce.
"...So you seriously believe that if large-scale agribusiness went into pot growing that wouldn't drive the price down? Seriously? The shit isn't any harder to grow than corn is, and corn sure as hell doesn't cost hundreds of dollars an ounce..."
Well, perhaps a large-scale agribusiness would be able to drive the price down. But why would anyone enter a market in order to drive the price down? It's easier to make your own beer/wine,/liquor in your garage than it is to grow an ounce of pot, but you don't see the distillers, distributors, and retailers suffering in the least, do you?
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So you seriously believe that if large-scale agribusiness went into pot growing that wouldn't drive the price down? Seriously? The shit isn't any harder to grow than corn is, and corn sure as hell doesn't cost hundreds of dollars an ounce.
It would be interesting to watch, with the cultural influences and all. Pot smokers have convinced themselves, and their culture, that their drug of choice is much more beneign than tobacco, frivolous and stupid demonization notwithstanding. So would pot then escape all the layers of punative taxes levied against tobacco? If not, then the price could well go up after some nationwide legalization/tax scheme.
Well, perhaps a large-scale agribusiness would be able to drive the price down. But why would anyone enter a market in order to drive the price down? It's easier to make your own beer/wine,/liquor in your garage than it is to grow an ounce of pot, but you don't see the distillers, distributors, and retailers suffering in the least, do you?
The reason to enter the market would be volume, as in nationwide legalization. It isn't about to happen on a state level, nor will it happen until a number of years of watching a nationwide legal market. Distillers sell a *lot* of their product.
I'm to the point that I truly believe that most conservatives believe that the conditions that exist today, at this very moment, are guaranteed to stay static forever, and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.
[which flies in the face of history actually]
Jim..
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evidence that conservatives believe that?.............
I'm to the point that I truly believe that most conservatives believe that the conditions that exist today, at this very moment, are guaranteed to stay static forever, and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.
[which flies in the face of history actually]
Jim..
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evidence that conservatives believe that?.............
evidence that conservatives believe that?.............
or are you engaging in hyperbole?
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nope. Look at your many, many, many posts to Jan about global warming. We have seen that crap from everywhere on the conservative horizon.. It is colder today than it was last year....ergo, "global warming does not exist".
It's easier to make your own beer/wine,/liquor in your garage than it is to grow an ounce of pot,
LOL....I dont think so. Just sayin'
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You have a pretense of thoughtfulness... in reality, you don't know shit.
LOL... It takes so little anymore... A tick better than "bullshit", I'll have to admit, but only a short fall to "whatever". *chortle*
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So *chortle* means that you think my thoughts are bullshit? How often have I used *chortle* to you?
Umm... No (again). *chortle* means that your "bullshit" comment is bullshit.
Probably never. You want to engage in real dialogue? [I don't think you do] ... To start, stop being so fucking dumb.
No dialogue is possible with a self-contained person. When all you have for a lead in is "bullshit", and "I'm not a bit surprised", one can't even tell how fucking dumb you are to start with.
No dialogue is possible with a self-contained person. When all you have for a lead in is "bullshit", and "I'm not a bit surprised", one can't even tell how fucking dumb you are to start with.
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Really? I've said for years that no dialogue is possible with you, for the very same reason you are telling me that you and I cannot have a dialogue.
nope. Look at your many, many, many posts to Jan about global warming. We have seen that crap from everywhere on the conservative horizon.. It is colder today than it was last year....ergo, "global warming does not exist".
You've made your mind up, you have no doubt.
good luck.
Jim..
that most conservatives believe that the conditions that exist today, at this very moment, are guaranteed to stay static forever,
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my posts about man not causing climate change indicate to you that conservatives believe the climate never changes?
that's your best shot at critical thinking?
This message has been edited by gillis7 on Jul 16, 2009 6:34 AM
The bill in NJ has already passed the senate in June and I haven't read much more about it getting further than that. They are going to be so many restrictions with it because they didn't want it to be anything like CA version. We had people who use come in from CA stating the way NJ wants to do it makes it so hard it's not worth it. First the state was going to allow those with prescriptions to grow up to 6 plants. Nope they took that out now. They have limited the sicknesses that qualify for prescriptions and limited the number of places where you can get it to 6.. To think I have two methadone clinics in my town!
My former co worker's MS meds are making him so so sick again at this point. He finally had his Mom go out and get him some weed again. He was ok for a while without it but since they increased the one med it's making him so sick to his stomach the only thing that gets him to eat is a few hits here and there. He said that is a damn shame that he is pumping himself sick with so many meds to keep his body from pain and in a managable condition and the only thing that can and does help him is something that can get him thrown in jail or his mom. Especially since he lives across the street from a school.
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