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So How Come

July 17 2009 at 11:01 AM
  (Login Poetse12)

you claim the Democrats are for the armed services when one Major Cook refuses to be deployed to Afghanistan. Why because he says the President Obama is serving illegally as president because he has no birth certificate.

Well, he gets his orders revoked and does not go to Afghanistan. But he is fired from his civilian job.

Gee, I long for the days of that dictator George W. Bush. At least his dad did good things for his son and not bad things to people who crossed him.

But of course Bush ran up that huge debt that Obama is have to pay off. Well, just one more reason that proves you are political hacks.

 
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(Login jrooth)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 1:59 PM 

LOL!!

This guy set himself up (or Orly Taitz talked him into setting himself up.)

He was a reservist and he wasn't called up, he volunteered to go - volunteered in May of this year when he already knew full well that Obama is President. Then as soon as the army gave him orders (in response to his volunteering) he filed this idiotic lawsuit. Clearly that was his intent all along - he volunteered specifically in order to put himself in a position to file this lawsuit.

Well the joke is on him, because the army simply said OK, if you didn't want to volunteer after all then we won't order you to go.

As for losing his job, well I'd say someone who maintains that the Commander in Chief of the armed forces is illegitimate and thus should not be obeyed is someone who shouldn't qualify for a security clearance. Security clearances are not entitlements, they have to be earned and are quite properly revokable if the individual takes some action that puts their loyalty in question (like declaring they won't obey the commander in chief.)

He made his bed, now he can lie in it.


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Maw
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Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 2:02 PM 

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Sable
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Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 2:45 PM 

I saw that guy on one of the news shows last night. In full uniform making a total ass of himself.

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gus.
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Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 2:57 PM 

   The Obama-is-not-a-citizen crowd are the Rightwing equivalent of the eight years of PNAC-takeover we had to endure.  Now if we could just find the equivalents for martial law, economic collapse, civil war, suspension of elections, oil theft, impeach-everybody, war crimes, global toasting, eco-anxiety, Sarah Palin's uterus, and general Liberal angst itsownself.

gus.

 

 

 


 
 

Mari
(Login auntiem2)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 2:59 PM 

 

Anyone notice that potsy has a rather NEW catch phrase?  "Political hacks."   LOL  Oh, well, I guess it's not as bad as some of the ones he's used before.

 



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Janie
(Login pphhrogg)

Just an excuse for cowardice

July 17 2009, 3:09 PM 

Why because he says the President Obama is serving illegally as president because he has no birth certificate.

He had VOLUNTEERED to go to Afghanistan, you dunce.  The ONLY reason he said that it was because President Obama isn't "legally" our 44th POTUS (not true in any way, of course)....was for POLITICAL points.  The major was being USED by his lawyer...and is still being used, in fact.

Proof for my post.....

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7952&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0





 
 

gus.
(Login gus-mccrea)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 3:15 PM 

Anyone notice that potsy has a rather NEW catch phrase?  "Political hacks."   LOL  Oh, well, I guess it's not as bad as some of the ones he's used before.

   At least I'm willing to bet that he thought it up himself.  That's a refreshing departure from the moonbats around this joint.

gus.

 

 

 


 
 

(Login Poetse12)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 6:19 PM 

So the Pentagon should have him fired from his civilian job?

Maybe political hack isn't the correct term



Update: Guess the DoD has compelled the termination of the plaintiff. How predictably rich. Its a $7 document Barry, given the billions being funneled to Acorn via your porkulous boondoggle, cant one of their thugs buy or make a counterfeit? Zheesh.
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(Login jrooth)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 6:47 PM 

So the Pentagon should have him fired from his civilian job?

If his job hadn't required a security clearance, no. But his job did require a security clearance and he chose to behave in a way that put his loyalty in question.


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Mari
(Login auntiem2)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 6:50 PM 

At least I'm willing to bet that he thought it up himself

 

 

Oh, RIGHT, gus....just like you thought up *moonbats* all by your little ol' self!   Ah....the irony of it all.

LMAO

 



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skiptig4
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Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 7:38 PM 

The Obama isn't a citizen talk never really sparked me...until they refused to show ALL the details. It's the same as Kerry's medical records...he never released ALL of the records...and yet you on the left swallow the bullshit with such ease....never questioning the obvious but always defending the very things that you yourselves do not know to be true because you cannot bring yourselves to demand ALL of the records if it's a leftist in question! Your cult-like devotion over weighs any common sense you have or have had! and that's the way it it is! Wake-up! This is really happening!

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Maw
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Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 7:58 PM 

Oh, RIGHT, gus....just like you thought up *moonbats* all by your little ol' self!   Ah....the irony of it all.

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gran567
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Amazing

July 17 2009, 8:05 PM 

What forethought Obamas's mother used by having the birth announcement put in the paper in Hawaii the day he was born! Absolutely amazing that she would know in advance that feeble minded people would claim he was born elsewhere!

 
 

Maw
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Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 8:07 PM 

right gran...lol

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skiptig4
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Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 8:19 PM 

I suppose that his father was not a communist....when he was taking the Russian classes and writing his collective writings of how the state should control the citizens?....or is all that a lie too? LOL! Seems the leftist apple hasn't fallen far from the communist tree and the American hamsters could care less...until his second or third purge!

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Jim
(Login Avalon99)

"Birther" Movement Dogs Republicans

July 17 2009, 8:22 PM 

This is the reason I stated down in the "support Sarah Palin" thread, that I cannot in any way support anyone from the GOP until they rid themselves of the idiots.  Either they stand up and disavow this shit, or they learn to eat it.

And Cook volunteers for active duty in May, and then refuses to be deployed in July?  And he loses his security clearance?  Absolutely!

Jim..

http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam

Birther Movement Dogs Republicans

Ten Members of Congress Sign on to Presidential Birth Certificate Bill

Kris Kobach is a law professor with degrees from Harvard, Yale and Oxford, and a veteran of George W. Bushs administration who, after Sept. 11, helped craft the policy on domestic registration of foreign visitors to the United States. In May, he announced a run for Kansas secretary of state, campaigning for photo ID requirements at the voting booth. Hes considered a clear front-runner for the job. But over the weekend, Kobach spoke at a Republican Party barbecue and committed a minor gaffe. According to the Lawrence Journal-World, Kobach asked what President Obama and God had in common, with the punchline being neither has a birth certificate.

Kansas Democrats pounced. While Kris Kobach has in the past associated himself with extremists who frequently show poor taste, said state Democratic Party Executive Director Kenny Johnston, his latest attempt at humor has gone too far. Kobach told the Democrats to lighten up before walking back the comment, explaining that until a court says otherwise, I believe Barack Obama is a natural-born citizen.

Kobach could have offered another defense. The joke was not his. One month earlier, Rush Limbaugh made the same remark on his radio show. Barack Obama has one thing in common with God, Limbaugh said. Know what it is? God does not have a birth certificate either. And Limbaugh may not have been writing his own material, either. At Patriot Depot, a conservative web site that sells books by Glenn Beck and signs designed for anti-tax Tea Parties, buyers can pay $10 to get two bumper stickers that read: Obama & God Have ONLY ONE THING in Common: NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE! The Difference Is God Doesnt Think Hes Obama!According to a salesman for Patriot Depot, the company has sold hundreds of this and another birth certificate sticker since advertising them with the conservative opinion sites GOPUSA.com and Townhall.com.

Six months into Obamas presidency, after scores of embarrassing legal defeats, and even after tussles between the attoneys whove turned frivolous lawsuits about the presidents citizenship into full-time jobs, the cottage industry of conspiracy theories about the presidents birth shows no signs of disappearing. The theories have found a home in talk radio and on conservative web sites such as Free Republic and WorldNetDaily. Conspiracy theorists are increasingly sending letters to their local papers, embarrassing members of Congress at town hall meetings, and hounding Hill staffers about challenges to the presidents citizenship.

I wouldnt consider what Kris Kobach said a gaffe, although it wasnt a prudent comment, said William B. Lacy, director of the Robert J. Dole Institute of Politics at the University of Kansas. Its not at the root of the complaint that conservative [Republicans] have with this administration. In essence, what any Republican is doing by raising that issue is creating his or her own red herring. Kobach is probably okay here, but theres a certain danger, I think, if it becomes something you repeat on a continuous basis.

Theres no indication that the White House is worried about all of this. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs has occasionally called on Lester Kinsolving, a radio host and correspondent for WorldNetDaily, to air the latest theories about the presidents citizenship as a way of defusing tense press briefings. While birthers claim that the presidents lawyers have spent hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars fighting their lawsuits, theyve never provided evidence for that claim. Indeed, most of the suits have been tossed out of court on technicalities.

Ironically, the birther movement began in response to Obamas own efforts to debunk rumors. One year ago this week, the presidential campaign of then-Sen. Barack Obama launched FightTheSmears.com, a web site designed to push back against false rumors about the first African-American presidential nominee. To push back against rumors that he was not born in Hawaii, the campaign reproduced a Certificate of Live Birth from the states Health Department. Instead of terminating the conspiracy theories, that inspired new theories that the certificate had been forged or that even if it hadnt been forged it was the sort of certificate that could be given to someone born outside of the United States. But the certificate is specific about Obamas birth in Honolulu, down to the 7:24 p.m. time.

Its crazy, said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. I dont think anything is ever going to satisfy them.

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama Birthers that are more like threats, explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obamas campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. If you were born in Bali, for example, Okubo explained, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But its become very clear that it doesnt matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? Its just become an urban legend at this point.

The urban legend has become too pervasive for Republicans to avoid. In February, Rep. Bill Posey (R-Fla.) introduced a much-mocked bill that would require presidential campaigns to provide a copy of the candidates birth certificate. While Posey initially said that he disbelieved conspiracy theories about the presidents birth, he told the host of an Internet radio show that hed discussed the possibility of Obama being removed from office over the eligibility issue with high-ranking members of our Judiciary Committee. As of July 15, nine fellow Republican members of Congress were backing the bill. While Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas) has said that he supports the bill because he didnt know whether Obama was a citizen, other sponsors say that they weighed in to pour cold water on the conspiracy theories.

Its a good idea, said John Donnelly, a spokesman for Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.), who became one of the bills co-sponsors this month. If candidates provided that information to the Federal Election Commission you wouldnt have all this hullaballoo. You dont want to needlessly expose presidents to crazy conspiracy theories.

At the state level, birther conspiracy theorists have made headway in getting Republican lawmakers interested in legislation like Poseys. At least four Republican members of Missouris state legislature have looked into introducing a similar bill. State Sen. Randy Brogdon (R-Okla.) who is running for governor of Oklahoma in 2010, said that hed co-sponsor birth certificate legislation if it made it out of the state senate and would definitely sign the bill if he won the governorship.

You bet Id sign it, said Brodgon. I know Id have no problem showing my birth certificate.

The Republicans who appear to be willing to listen to birthers, even to debunk them, have to walk a tightrope. In April, freshman Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) held a town hall meeting at her old high school in Cheyenne, Wyo., and got a question about the presidents citizenship. Lummis challenged the skeptic to please send evidence that the president was not a natural-born citizen. Im not questioning your concern, Lummis said. I am questioning whether there is credible evidence. In early July, a small group of birthers walked the halls of Congress handing grand jury presentments over to the confused front desk assistants of members of Congress; the activists rushed online to report the latest member who had been handed the information. After birthers provided some of their papers to Michael Schwartz, the chief of staff to Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), they rushed online to report that Schwartz had been won over to the cause and was about to get in touch with Orly Taitz, a California lawyer who has filed several unsuccessful challenges to the presidents citizenship.

It is possible to mistake politeness for agreement, Schwartz told TWI, and I make every effort to be polite. He did have a brief conversation with Dr. Taitz, but challenged the way online birthers had hyped their contact with Coburns office. An observer would not report it quite like this, said Schwartz.

Taitzs lawsuits and the pressure of conservative talkers like Limbaugh have made it increasingly difficult for Republicans to avoid the birthers. On June 16, after Limbaugh joked about the presidents citizenship, WorldNetDaily editor-in-chief Joseph Farah appeared on the Web-based Recharge Radio to thank the host for spreading the birther message. What that did is beyond Rushs impact, said Farah. It also gives other talk show hosts license to talk about this issue Rush is kind of the standard of talk show hosts. A lot of people emulate what he does. He crossed the Rubicon on that show, and Im very proud of him for doing it.

Farahs instincts have been borne out by conservative media. This week, Taitz represented Maj. Stefan F. Cook, a reservist who volunteered for duty in Afghanistan, then demanded to be released from the commitment unless the president proved that he was a U.S. citizen. I did not volunteer with the intent of becoming a conscientious objector, Cook told TWI in an email. On Wednesday Cooks deployment was cancelled, and a spokesman for Centcom took issue with Taitzs claim, made in a WorldNetDaily story, that this decision verified conspiracy theories about the presidents birth. Later that night, Sean Hannity cited the story on his Fox News show and used Taitzs version of the facts, not Centcoms.

Major Cook and his lawyer expressed joy at this outcome, said Hannity. And they took it as an admission on the part of the military that the president is not in fact a legitimate citizen by birth.


 
 

gus.
(Login gus-mccrea)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 9:36 PM 

Oh, RIGHT, gus....just like you thought up *moonbats* all by your little ol' self!   Ah....the irony of it all.

   Nope, I've posted the supposed origin of the word a number of times, and never laid claim to it.  Sorry to ruin your LMAO. *snort*

gus.

 


 
 

(Login Avalon99)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 9:45 PM 

Nope, I've posted the supposed origin of the word a number of times, and never laid claim to it.  Sorry to ruin your LMAO. *snort*

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Yet you suppose that poetse came up with "political hack" by himself?

wow.

Jim..

[btw... you are right about the "birthers"]


 
 

gus.
(Login gus-mccrea)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 10:05 PM 

Yet you suppose that poetse came up with "political hack" by himself?

   It fits his writing, even if it isn't miss-spelled.  And it doesn't look canned, like all the crap the moonbats bring here from the bat-blogs, leading to the reasonably accurate presumption that Poetse, not being one, stands a much greater chance of an actual original thought.

gus.

 


 
 


(Login indisgeyes)

Re: So How Come

July 17 2009, 10:25 PM 

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/09/eric-holder-political-hack/

I would not be surprised if this was where poetse stumbled upon the term.  Nothing poetse comes up with is ever original and he always over uses it to the point of making it nausous and it is often, as in this case, self describing. 


 
 

(Login Poetse12)

Re: So How Come

July 18 2009, 5:27 PM 

Hi, Ron. Where you been hiding.

Hey, I called Jim a pseudo intellectual several years ago. He didn't like the term and called me a pseudo intellectual right back. Which one is original? Well, damn, the one who uses the term first is the original thinker.

BTW, I prove over and over that liberals are pseudo intellectuals. but since that term is over their heads, I call them political hacks. T^hey7 qualify for both titles. Why? They avoid the issues and attack the person.


 
 


(Login indisgeyes)

Re: So How Come

July 18 2009, 7:43 PM 

I'm not hiding, poetse, I've just been taking a break and watching you make a fool of yourself like usual.  You didn't come up with psuedo intellectual on your own just like you didn't come up with political hack on your own, you just steal crap you see on the rightwing sites and start throwing it around.  That's not originality and just like with psuedo intellectual political hack fits you just as well as some of those that you throw it at.   Now I'm going to watch while you don't call me names.... ROFL!!!

 
 
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